well hope you can make it compatable, I like the mod but right now it makes leveling husbandry even harder than it already is because not only do you get no skill points for skinning or butchering with the mod, but it some how brakes getting skill points for doing it the normal way too.

you modders are awesome. would love to see a compatabilty patch for feverstone wilds.

Finally braved trying this mod out and omg I love it CaptainOats. Question - what's the compatibility with the other four FoSA mods like? (Casuariidae, Sirenia, Machairodontinae, Capreolinae)?

I have had an ocation where i wanted to move something so some one could skin it on the spot or switch something out for something else i wanted to take back  (ei ditch a cow to bring back a bear) however all the things that get turned into generic huncks of meat like the cow and modded things once picked up can not be placed down on the ground to skin out in the world anymore.... could you make it so they can be placed down on the ground and field butchured still?

Pinged you in discord about table model. I remodel table and I think it looks a bit better, please take a look when you will have time, would be nice to have it in-game for other players.

Bonjour les tables de boucherie tombe au sol sans que lon puisse les plasse version 1.19.5

CaptainOats

Newest version of the mod on the newest version of the game. I Tried Foxes, Wolves, and a Rabbit before giving up

Ket

It shouldn't take too many logs but I can't remeber the optimal amount right now. Keep in mind if you burn logs while nothing is in the firepit the fuel lasts 50% longer because it's not 'cooking' anything.

YourYandereGF

I will look into that, there was some rendering issues in the new version of the game so that might be the problem.

Sert

Which version of the mod are you using and what type of animals?

Azraile

It was only updated recently so only now do I have the chance to look into this. Currantly it doesn't intergrate in with xskills.

EtheRR

The bench is supposed to go into a bag slot then can be placed by scroll wheeling to it or pressing ctrl + 1, 2, 3 or 4. This is done due to balancing. Medium+ animals will also go into those slots too unless you have a butchering bag.

Hello got a problem with the mod on 1.19.5 version of vintage story : the primal butchering table drops on the floor when i craft it and I can't pick it up. Ty to help me asap.

Can you add xskills compatability to using the mod gives skill points and the husbandry butchery skills apply to this mod?

Having the same issue as @IndieAlch

Everything seems to be starving, and I haven't received a single drop from any of the 5 animals I've butchered on the table. Only thing I got from them were the bones that drop afterwards.

YourYandereGF

That doesn't sound right. I've put at least 16 logs on before and come back to find things not smoked. In the server I'm playing on the timer says 3 hours to smoke but I don't know how that compares to the 24s listed on the firewood item? Default calendarspeedmul as far as I can tell.

Ket 5 logs will smoke your meats fully with only a second or 2 of fuel wasted.  Also CaptainOats there is an issue im facing where the smoking rack is not visually showing the uncooked meats, but will make them fully visible again once they are done smoking.  I dont know if this is a client issue or something replicatable.  Just wanted to make you aware to keep an eye out <3

How much fuel does a campfire need to smoke the meat? I keep coming back to the meat resetting its process because I haven't fueld it enough but I don't want to just slam a whole stack of wood into the fire and waste fuel. Is wood even the best fuel to use for this? 

Sad_yst

I will add more compatibility in the future but it will take a bit of time to motivate myself. :P

BoogieBrando

If I remember I will look into this.

Advancedgun3795

Are you in creative, spawning in carcausses? Because you need to place an animal and kill it to work properly last time I checked. And also are you using any other mods?

Hey, I recently tried your mod but im having an issue where everytime I hang an animal and put them on the butcher table none of the items such as their meat, leather or anything thats supposed to drop after I finish cutting the carcasses drops, the only thing I get from the whole process are the bones from the leftover skeleton at the end of the process. Is there a specific bug thats happening or is there a step I'm missing? I'm on 1.19.5 if that helps.

Love this mod, although I struggled a bit with understanding that I had to crouch to scroll over to the bag slots. I didn't even know that was a thing in the base game.

Might help people to add that tip into the handbook as the crouch+scroll function isn't vital to vanilla VS gameplay (can be easily missed out on), whereas in Butchering it is required.

will you add support to more animals mod, feverstone wilds/horses and more birds mod? love the mod btw <3

IndieAlch

Hopfully fixed in the new update!

Currently experiencing a bug where all creatures are listed as "starving" when picked up.
Im on v1.19.4 using the 1.5.4 version of Butchering, and first experienced the bug with other mods in a survival world, and was able to reproduce this bug with only the Butchering mod on.

It does not matter whether the creature weight is good, decent, low, or starving before being killed, as when picked up all creature weights are shown as "starving" and give little to no drops when using the butchery blocks.

Issue could be reproduced in a creative world and only way to get good weight corpses was through the creative inventory.

I've tried to uninstall and reinstall the mod but to no avail, and I cant seem to think of any fixes, any ideas?

ShrimFryRry

This is probbaly an issue with the base game because that error report doesn't show anything to do with my mod.

Might be this from the base game:

Fixed: Further attempt to fix very rare crash with EntityItem; added additional debug logging

Is this compatable with XSkills?

I tried testing it out, but I can't tell if it's working or just randomness

CaptainOats

I tried using that command, but the game was unable to find the mapping id. Long story short, I found a huge brained hide with the same issue, but it crashed my game. Now my game crashes on start up.
I was able to recreate the glitch on a backup. Any help would be massively appreciated.

Running on 64 bit Windows 10.0.19045.0 with 16286 MB RAM
Game Version: v1.19.4 (Stable)
3/15/2024 2:15:51 PM: Critical error occurred
Loaded Mods: aculinaryartillery@1.1.3, buzzwords@1.6.0, primitivesurvival@3.4.9, game@1.19.4, zoombuttonreborn@1.6.0, ancienttools@1.5.12, betterruins@0.3.4, butchering@1.5.4, commonlib@2.3.7, expandedfoods@1.6.8, herbarium@1.1.0, medievalexpansion@3.13.1, petai@2.2.3, usefulstuff17@1.3.2, creative@1.19.4, survival@1.19.4, wildfarmingrevival@1.1.8, xlib@0.8.0-rc.1, playercorpse@1.9.0, wildcraftfruit@1.1.1, wildcraftherb@0.0.0, wildcrafttree@1.1.0, wolftaming@2.1.0, xskills@0.8.0-rc.1
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Vintagestory.GameContent.EntityItemRenderer.LoadModelMatrix(ItemRenderInfo renderInfo, Boolean isShadowPass, Single dt) in VSEssentials\EntityRenderer\EntityItemRenderer.cs:line 280
at Vintagestory.GameContent.EntityItemRenderer.DoRender3DOpaque(Single dt, Boolean isShadowPass) in VSEssentials\EntityRenderer\EntityItemRenderer.cs:line 150
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemRenderEntities.OnRenderOpaque3D(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Render\RenderEntities.cs:line 93
at Vintagestory.API.Client.DummyRenderer.OnRenderFrame(Single deltaTime, EnumRenderStage stage) in VintagestoryApi\Client\API\IClientEventAPI.cs:line 83
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ClientEventManager.cs:line 200
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 806
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.MainRenderLoop(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 901
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.MainGameLoop(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 730
at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToPrimary(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 163
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 676
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 651
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 88
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 324
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass9_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 128
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

Event Log entries for Vintagestory.exe, the latest 3
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Faulting module name: openal32.dll, version: 1.23.0.0, time stamp: 0x63dd31ad
Exception code: 0x40000015
Fault offset: 0x00000000000df046
Faulting process id: 0x3188
Faulting application start time: 0x01da7703c4b0a1d6
Faulting application path: C:\Users\JohnDoe\AppData\Roaming\Vintagestory\Vintagestory.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Users\JohnDoe\AppData\Roaming\Vintagestory\Lib\openal32.dll
Report Id: e5d54d36-6e5e-419a-9beb-3c1b9b044f58
Faulting package full name:
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{ TimeGenerated = 3/15/2024 2:08:19 PM, Site = , Source = Application Error, Message = Faulting application name: Vintagestory.exe, version: 1.19.4.0, time stamp: 0x65310000
Faulting module name: openal32.dll, version: 1.23.0.0, time stamp: 0x63dd31ad
Exception code: 0x40000015
Fault offset: 0x00000000000df046
Faulting process id: 0x3ca0
Faulting application start time: 0x01da770379b71772
Faulting application path: C:\Users\JohnDoe\AppData\Roaming\Vintagestory\Vintagestory.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Users\JohnDoe\AppData\Roaming\Vintagestory\Lib\openal32.dll
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{ TimeGenerated = 3/15/2024 1:45:37 PM, Site = , Source = Application Error, Message = Faulting application name: Vintagestory.exe, version: 1.19.4.0, time stamp: 0x65310000
Faulting module name: openal32.dll, version: 1.23.0.0, time stamp: 0x63dd31ad
Exception code: 0x40000015
Fault offset: 0x00000000000df046
Faulting process id: 0x55c
Faulting application start time: 0x01da76fbdd9eccb1
Faulting application path: C:\Users\JohnDoe\AppData\Roaming\Vintagestory\Vintagestory.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Users\JohnDoe\AppData\Roaming\Vintagestory\Lib\openal32.dll
Report Id: af10ee5d-fcd4-44c8-97f9-2023581aaf87
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ShrimFryRry

If your old butchery bags don't auto convert into the new format then please use this command: /iir remapq butchering:butcherybag-primitive butchering:butcherybag force

Yo, my primitive butchering bag turned into a jpeg after updating to 1.5.4. It still worked fine, until I took it out of my backpack slot. The bags in the handbook look fine, mine just got cursed I guess. 
Either way, thanks for fixing the invisible bug. Love this mod.

Valencrad

What version are you currantly on? I have been having no issues in my play through with starving animals since I 'fixed' it before.

Love the idea of this mod, was super hyped to play with it but i'm having a bug with every animal I pick up suddenly converting to the "starving" weight
Edit: Played co op, my friend playing Hunter was able to get stuff from a bear, but rabbits of low weight keep becoming starving weight

Excellent work, I like this mod.
but i just found a bug, when i put the primitive butcher table on the ground and then destroy it to move it, it stays on the ground and i can't pick it up again.

Edit: I solved it by uninstalling and re-installing the mod

Can confirm the bug of stepping on the primitive hook. May be all hooks.

Huzzah for invisible bug fix!

Hello !

Thanks for the mod, it's very good :)

I've faced a bug I managed to consistentently reproduce and that seems related to this mod. The game will crash if I step on a flint hook that is on my wall (I was just trying to jump over it). Crash seems to rollback the world state but not my inventory, causing some lost items.

I'm running v1.19.4 with these mods: Culinary Artillery / Butchering / Carry On / CommonLib / Expanded Food / Player Corpse / Primitive Survival

Btw, I broke a hook with a corpse on it and can't figure out how to reattach it, any help ? thanks !

Hi friend. I'm running version 1.5.2 on a 1.19.4 server. The primative butcher table seems to be scaled down. As in, it should be 3 blocks long but it's only 1.5 blocks long. Same for width and height. It also doesn't appear to be usable in this state either. I know 1.19.4 is new so I didn't expect it to work seamlessly, but I figured I'd let you know.

EDIT: I fixed it. If you hit both shift and ctrl when placing the table, it caused this issue. Hitting only crouch will allow you to place it properly. I hope this helps someone!

Invisible Fix 1.5.3:

• After a few dozen hours and a few different modders minds tapped, finally a fix has been found for the invisible animals. Hurray!
• This update removes the ability to craft the Temporal Butcher Box because it's very buggy as of right now.
• Deer can be picked up and butchered now.

Boneknapping isn't working.  Even with placement mods disabled, it refuses to allow selection of a recipie.

There are too many people to at individually so I'm going to just hope you see this.

Can't work out how to place the bench when crafted?

Use control and numbers 1-4 to select it or scroll wheel to it when not in a inventory menu

Textures are bugged/Animals are dissaperaing visually?

I sadly know, this is a problem that has plagued the 1.19.- release. I at this moment am really struggling to find a fix. This may be a base game issue that can't be fixed on my end or requires a large rewrite, I just don't know.

My animals are not dropping anything?

In my hours of testing and playing I have not encountered any issues but I will keep my eyes open

Deer, Goats and Moose can't be picked up?

Yes, those animals are yet to be turned on in the mod. Deer are in but need to be properly turned on and the others need new models due to some model issues with them. (I've been too busy stressing over the invisable animals to do much about these)

Thank you all for you patience with these matters and don't feel bad if you need to unistall the mod due to bugs, I am keen to work out these problems and hopfully you will give it a second look at a later date.

JonR

I will look into doing something about that at somepoint.

For those having trouble with things like placing the butcher table, picking up animals, etc. fear not! I too thought the mod was bugged, but it isn't--the mod simply makes more use of your bag inventory slots. You will need an empty bag slot to pick up a butcher table or a large animal. If you have a butcher bag, you don't need the bag slot. Even without using the bag slot you can still pick up small animals.

This should address the concerns raised by beaneboy (use one of your bag slots to pick up and place a butcher table) as well as TofuDelivery (hold control and hover over your empty bag slot then right click the animal carcas in question).


The one remaining issue that IS still bugged is the fact that once placed on a hook and skinned, animals often turn invisible until you pick them up off the hooks. I believe the author is still addressing these textures and what not, but it shouldn't affect the function of the mod--just the aesthetics.

Would you consider adding a config option to change the value that vanilla-style butchering returns are multiplied by? I would love to tweak the mod so that Vanilla butchering is at vanilla returns, but then going through the added processes in the mod results in a 2x or more return in products. That way it ends up being an incentive to play with the mod instead of the player being forced to utilize it, and having less values hard-coded in the DLL I feel is a good practice as well. Thanks for considering this!

hello i have a massive issue when i craft the primative butchering table i cant place it in my invetory,hotbar or pick it up could it be something with all the mods i could have or a issue with the mod

Hey I have this issue where I can't pick up medium sized animals like dead deer and goats. Doesn't work with or without a butchering bag/empty slot unless it's a smaller animal like fox, rabbit, chicken.

So i have the carcasses disappear with any of the hooks.  Interestingly since the same update period(i ythink 1.19.3 but maybe earlier in 1.19.x) i have the same issue with honey pots in the fields of gold mod and the chest in the hand cart in the ancient tools mod.  idk if this helps, maybe yall can brainstorm together and see if there is a common change in 1.19 that has caused this behavior.  Loving th9s mod, really hoping for more compatibility with other creature/aniumal mods.. feels wrong now to skin it in the field.

thanks

Just wanted to confirm, when using the tinbronze hook, the draining carcass "disappears" once drained.  Its there, just not visible.  The model does appear once you pick it up, and it shows on the butchers table. This happened for me with the wolf, rabbit, raccoon, and chicken.

Hi, i dont know why but i cant get raw hide :(

Thanks

Ok I'm a bit lost. I saw a video with this mod where the primitive butchering table was on the ground, now all I can get it to do is fit in a bag slot. Help?

@CaptainOats: 1.19.3 for the game, 1.5.2 for the mod. I think it happened with a 'poor' weight as well, but I'd assumed that was just different terminology (I'm still in my first year of gameplay, and haven't seen a starving mob yet).

yo i've got a bit of a weird issue
running on 19.3
updated it to the lastest version of the mod and when i put the animals onto the hooks or the table, i'd use my knife on them and the animation and sound would play (noted that if i were to move while the audio was playing, the audio wouldn't follow me and would stay in that one spot) but nothing would happen. did a bit of finagling and it got temporarily fixed, went back on today and the issue was back, decided to go back to the mod version 1.4.4 and it's still having that problem, no clue why. i've reinstalled the mod, turned it on and off again, gave myself a new table, only thing i haven't tried is going out and getting killing another animal to try, bc, i would really prefer not to.

Edit: played around a bit more and it seems like the issue was the toolworks mod for some reason? far as i can tell at leaset. regular vanilla knives didn't work whereas the toolworks versions did, but it seems like even if they do work, there's no drops or anything using them? back on v1.5.2 and, so long as that mod is disabled, it seems to work perfectly fine

TennoHotaru

That sounds like a bug, what version of the game and mod are you running?

Downloaded the mod to try it out today and I've spotted something that seems odd. When I killed a wolf and hovered over it, the weight was listed as decent, but when I picked it up to carry home it changed to 'starving' and consequently dropped no hide or fat.

Is this a bug, or an interaction with wolves specifically?

Foxes now should not crash you in the new update

I can confirm that there is a crash when u look at the fox corpse. I tried it few times with three diffrent corpses. Im using Primite Survival, Ancient Tools and Carry On. CaptainOats

Rolling back to older version fixes the issue for me. No need to remove mod. Remove newest version, then install 1.4.4 and fully restart your game, and it should work.  Whiteshadoh

Running on 64 bit Windows 10.0.22631.0 with 32633 MB RAM
Game Version: v1.19.3 (Stable)
18.02.2024 01:44:48: Critical error occurred in the following mod: butchering@1.5.1
Loaded Mods: primitivesurvival@3.4.6, game@1.19.3, ancienttools@1.5.12, butchering@1.5.1, carryon@1.7.4, hudclock@3.4.0, creative@1.19.3, survival@1.19.3
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Butchering.EntityBehaviorButcherable.GetInteractionHelp(IClientWorldAccessor world, EntitySelection es, IClientPlayer player, EnumHandling& handled) in C:\Users\daifi\Desktop\Vintage Story Modding\butchering\butchering\src\EntityBehaviors\BehaviorButcherable.cs:line 81
at Vintagestory.API.Common.Entities.Entity.GetInteractionHelp(IClientWorldAccessor world, EntitySelection es, IClientPlayer player) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Entity\Entity.cs:line 1212
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.HudElementBlockInteractionHelp.ComposeBlockWorldInteractionHelp() in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\Huds\HudElementBlockInteractionHelp.cs:line 270
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.HudElementBlockInteractionHelp.EntityInView() in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\Huds\HudElementBlockInteractionHelp.cs:line 381
at Vintagestory.Common.EventManager.TriggerGameTick(Int64 ellapsedMilliseconds, IWorldAccessor world) in VintagestoryLib\Common\EventManager.cs:line 57
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.MainRenderLoop(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 808
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.MainGameLoop(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 724
at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToPrimary(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 200
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 675
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 650
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 88
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 318
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass9_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 128
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

Event Log entries for Vintagestory.exe, the latest 1

Had to remove this mod as when you look at the fox corpses it creates a crash for the player.

Until you fix the invisible creatures bug, is there a way you could possibly add a chat timer when they are completely bled for a reminder? Either way, love this mod!

CaptainOats
Any idea why this is spamming my console

[Server Error] Tried to load collectable butchering:deadfox-male-red-dead, but it could not be resolved.
[Server Error] Tried to load collectable butchering:deadfox-female-red-dead, but it could not be resolved.
[Server Error] Tried to load collectable butchering:deadfox-baby-red-dead, but it could not be resolved.

Wizard76

I plan on haveing two more tiers of butchering bag, a pelt one (6 slots) and a leather one (8 Slots)

With the invisble animals on hook bug - I am aware but can't fix it without an overhaul but even then not sure what I'm thinking would work.

Aristine

Sadly without a lot of code can't return the item back to dead entity.

Bughaw same thing happens on just the regular primitive hooks, latest version of the mod as well in 1.19.3, animals become invisible after bleeding out on the hooks

It would be great to still allow picked up/placed animals to be vanilla harvested as long as they haven't been skinned yet.
In my case, I made the mistake of picking some animals up to bring home (but I'm very early on and far from having the supplies to make a skinning hook). Now that I've placed down the animals at home, I have no way to harvest them.

mod is working well for me in 1.19, but with the graphics bug. Just have to remember that bug when hunting.
Also, question. Do you have plans for a bigger, [maybe 6 or 8 slot] butchering bag?

Weird how the bodies never disappeared in the 1.18 version even when that was used on the 1.19 releases before the official 1.19 upgrade.

CaptainOats

Bodies vanish on the copper hook when done bleeding (1.4.4-latest).  Just a display issue, mod still works.

CaptainOats   
Could you please update this mod for compatibility with the Toolworks mod? The crafting recipes requiring a tool seem to not work with the new tool mechanics that the ToolWorks mod introduces. Thank you if you do. :)

CaptainOats

Wonderful, will add it. Thank you.

CaptainOats Sounds good, cant wait to try it

Kessem

It should work fine with Primitive Survival but you will have two ways of how to smoke meat.

MagentaLizard

The new 1.4.4 update should of fixed this issue but I shall look into it further

Wizard76

That patch is already in the mod. I will look at the More Animals mod once I've intergrated the base animals.

Gonya

The new 1.5.0 update (inreleased) I'm working on is going to make it so you can only use bronze or lower tools to make the bench to stop people accidently doing this. Like Lemontrash Said the tools are ment to be in the table and you 'use' them to aid in cutting up the beast. I use a knife in the recipe because in the cutting up of an animal I should imagine more than one type of knife is used to properly do the job.

Dnd

I will look more into the bleeding issue but it might be one of those things to stay for now. (Though this could be the path I need to take to solve the whole invisable animals issue? So I will have a look)

I skinned a rabbit, lion and pig on a copper hook. The bleeding animations stayed where the hook is, even when removed. Relogging fixed this, but just an fyi.

Gonya I am not a modder myself, but as far as I understand if you wanted the tools to show up on a model of the table, it would only be solvable by creating a bunch of models for the table since any combination of metal tools can be used. Otherwise you would be able to use copper tools in craft menu while the actual table displays them as iron, for example. Not in line how VS typically deals with these things. 
But again, I might me completely wrong here and the decision on how to handle this (and if to handle at all) is ultimately on the author. 

Lemontrash I never actually considered the tools are just used up so that it is like the butchering table is actually using them. But in that case, maybe actually representing the tools on the bench would be good. I agree that the knife should probably not be part of the crafting recipe if that is the logic behind it because we use our own knife through the whole process.

Gonya I think the idea is you place shears and a cleaver on the table for future use during the butchering process, but the knife doesn't really make a lot of sense since you still have to use one to actually butcher the beast

Can you please have crafting butchering tables not consume the entirety of the tool durability. Pretty silly that I ended up using my entire durability of my iron shears and knife just to make a copper butchering table. 

CaptainOats I tested today with Expanded foods, lightly. It seems to work [at least doesnt break or crash].

I saw there is already a patch for Medieval Expansion for the cattle. Ill have to try that. I was talking about the More Animals mod that adds the capercailies, turkeys, pheasants etc.

Cant wait to play more extensively with the mod, looks great so far.

CaptainOats

Am i supposed to be getting only 3 meat from a good weight boar that was skinned and bled out? Also the boar becomes invisible when it's done bleeding out.
Edit: Ok somehow the good weight boar are becoming low weight when i pick them up so that's probably the issue.



I'm on 1.19.3 and using these mods.

CaptainOats

Is integrating (making it compatible?) Primitive Survival planned? or is it already fully working together?

This is pretty much the main thing making me hesitant to add your mod to my game.

so just my suggestion/requestr for other mods to make compatable, creeature critters, more animals and the feverstone horses would all be great!  Also i know i mentoned it b4 but me and a buddy were talking how cool fish being scaled on a board, then gutr em to get fillets and a guts drop of some kind that could be used fror a fertilizer.  Overall we love this mod and look forward to all the other animals in future, cause we dont even really want to kill the ones we dont have to bring back and skin...lol

thanks foir the work!

CaptainOats

Thanks for the help,
it worked

Tim2002

It is the same as a filled skep and can be access to be placed by scrolling the mouse wheel to select it or holding control and pressing 1-4 then placing it like a block

Thanks for the update CaptainOats and please don't feel preasured in any way or form, mod's awesome as is 

Why can't the butcher's table be placed, why can you put it in the backpack but not place it as a block? I just noticed this while testing the mod

The_Rice_Fields

The smoker has to be directly over/above the fire to work.

IndigoRose

Please update to the lastest version as I remove bone arrows and replace them with a recipe for flint arrows (your bone arrows should auto convert over when you update if you let the remapper do it's thing) This is due to arrow's being much harder to implement than I thought.

Lemontrash

Goats and moose have to be added yes. I have another update coming out that won't fix them yet but I will in the future.

Bushranger

I will look at the birds and see if when I fix the goats and moose I mgiht be able to put in a compatibility patch.

Also bears and wolves won't smell the hanging meat. might be funny to implement but super hard to do. :)

Thanks so much for fixing the starving issue! Also, is there a height limit to how high the smokers can be above the fire? Does it have to be right above it or can it be like 3-4 blocks higher?

I'm having a big problem with the arrows I create from bone knapping. Shooting them causes my game to crash and close every single time. Is there any solution to this issue?

I assume the mod doesn't work with the 1.19 animals yet? I can't pick the nubian ibex up, neither in the backpack slot nor in the regular inventory and vanilla butchering seems to yield full resources

I've just started playing with this mod and it's very satisfying :)

My vote would be for the birds in More Animals. I imagine they're based off the chickens, so might not be as much work for you 🤞

Maybe the snakes in Primitive Survival?

Now the question is... should I fear wolves / bears sniffing out the skinned creatures hanging at camp and coming for me?

Wizard76

This mod should be compatible with Expanded Foods or at least shouldn't break (I havn't tested this fully yet)

Which animal mods where you thinking and also I need to finish up the moose and goats before I do any more external mod intergration.

Is this or will this be compatible with A Culinary Artillery and Expanded Foods?
That would be amazing to have that, as well as possible integration with other animal mods?

Awesome, thanks for fixing the starving issue. I enjoyed the process that this mod adds, looking forward to adding it back to my game.

Perhaps the bone tools could be made into an addon mod instead of being part of the base mod with the butchering changes?

Blaze_wraith

This mod doesn't effect drifter drops.

IMPORTANT Dev Announcement 1.4.4

I am confident that the values the animals drop are vanilla values, the starving issue is down to how we half animal loot initally to then double it on the copper bench. This value was coming through in the hud as 'starving' but infact this was just a number it was puling before we doubled it.

This update fixes that starving issue.

After testing the animals were giving me exactly the vanilla amounts I would expect. This number corrilates correctly to the number in the animal file JSON. For example ewes (female sheep) give a range of 13-19 red meat for a 100% fed creature but no creature will ever be 100% fed so that number would be closer to 80% (or less for wild animals); this boils down to 13-19 divided by 80% (standard vanilla fedness) then any class modifers equalling what should be dropping (10-15 or something close to that).

Now the flint/primiative stuff does give another 20% debuff onto that but as I was planning on adding more stuff to the animal drops I feel like that an okay debuff for early game tools.

If you want to mess with drop rate there is config where you can change the values to what you want.

also, does the mod effect drifter drops

alright, im here now

Dov47

nevermind, read previous comments

fixed now, thx

Blaze_wraith

It is in your game directory:
C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\VintagestoryData

Appdata folder is usually hidden by default in windows, to get there type %appdata% in start and press enter.
It will take you to AppData/Roaming

Dov47

how do i find the "clientsettings.json" thing

i found something close, but i dont know if its the right one

I will look into the starving issue and see if I can find the cause, must be the way we now are displaying info on the creature messing with something.

The model disspearing bug is something that I have worked with mutliple modders to fix and we were all unable to find a solution despite our best efforts. At this point I fear it's a base game issue.

Moose and goats need to be re-modeled before I can put them into the mod which as you can tell isn't high on my proirity list at the moment.

Thank you all for patience and hope that you can bear with me on these issues

CaptainOats

Blaze_wraith

I had the same issue, go to clientsettings.json and delete any butcher mod from disabled mods list, that fixed it for me

my mod list BTW

installed latest update of the mod, and my table and hooks are gone, as well as all the crafting recipes 

Mod is currently bugged and turns every creature to "starving" when you pick them up, and the carcass model disappears once it's done hanging, some animals like bears sometimes don't drop anything when skinned or butchered, some animals like moose can't be picked up

Ievery animal i kill from bear to boar to deer, no matter the animal weight, all say theyre starving once i pick them up and barely give any meat, fat, or hide (i skinned like 8 wolves and got 2 hides) am I doing something wrong or is this a bug?

Other players can't see when a creature is placed on a butcher hook. 

CaptainOats

I like the Bone items like the Bone Pickaxe. Could you add more bone based tools like ...
- Bone Harpoon
- Bone Hoe
- Bone Knife
- Bone Shovel
- Bone Spear
- Sharktooth Club
Thanks in advance!

Germugulgon Recommend trying out Commoner or any class that has no negatives to harvesting from animals; but yeah the debuffs all stack and it does get pretty gnarly fast. Also could try tuning the config to 1.5x drops from butchering (makes it worth the effort right now either way)

@CaptainOats game verson is 1.19.2 and the mod verson was 1.19. 0/1.19.2  i will try it again sense i see you have updated it  

thank you for being vary active with all this <3

Thanks for that last update. I may not be having such a bountiful hunt now, but at least I can tame the cat that wandered past my hovel now.

I really enjoy the idea of this mod. I'm playing a clothier and every corpse I've picked up so far - even a 'good' weight bear - turns to starving when I pick it up and go through the process.
I've yet to get a single item from butchering a bled out body on my primative table. I'm not sure if this is intended or not, but its a bit of a bummer to hoof a bear back to base and butcher it and not even get a hide after skinning it. Not sure if the primitive bench and the clothier debuff stack to make the bodies not very useful?

Going to disable for now and circle back. Very cool premise though, hope to use it in the future.

Really enjoying this mod so far! Makes butchering creatures feel a lot more engaging than just shift-rightclicking.
Any plans on adding compatibility with Primitive Survival, perchance? The smoked meat from this mod and that one have quite a bit of overlap, but have different decay rates and the Primitive Survival version can be further cured after smoking, which this one's smoked meat cannot

CDragonDream

Which version of the mod and game did you try to install?

Hydromancerx

While I had planned on adding intestine, I hadn't heard about Rennet. I will add it to the bank of ideas but I can't promise anything.

ShrimFryRry

Thanks for the comment! :)

Could you add Intestines to be used to make Sausages and Rennet (for cheese making)?
Thanks in advance!

Thanks for the updoots

Welp, just downloaded this new version and my bench and hooks and tendens are all messed up. not sure why that happened so im a go back to the older one i had that was still working

Thanks :)

Blaze_wraith

Little update - Goats and moose need to be fixed on my end to be put in, gonna have to wait on those!

Sozzky

You can now feed your wolves and doggo's meat again in the new patch. (Thanks G3rste)

Blaze_wraith

I wanted to get out a version quickly to address issues so I left out the goats for this release (though I just forgot to un-disable the moose too)

Sozzky

Will look into this today, is it just redmeat/bushmeat?

Seems like I can't feed any meat to my wolves after updating to 1.4.1. Was fine before updating this. Using Wolves Taming and PetAI mods.

and moose too

thanks

also, cant pick up the valais goat (which i believe is vanilla)

Blaze_wraith

Prime meat when raw can be used in meals in the cooking pot.

its working now, thx.

in other news, can primemeat be used in a cooking pot

Blaze_wraith

You are running an old version of the mod, please update and if it happens again then send me a message.

DarK_DO7

From the Q&A section of the mod itself...

I can't pick up the butchering bench or large animals?

After crafting the butchering bench it will go into a bag slot (like a skep or linen bag) or fall onto the floor. You also need a free bag space for larger animals to go into OR use a butchering bag (which opens up inventory slots for larger animals).

curently trying to pick up a male brown bear of decent weight. i have an empty backpack slot, but when i pick it up, it crashes my game

DarK_DO7

I had the same issue, I think it got changed to getting stored in one of your backpack areas, like the skep. Should try that

the primitive butchering table won't go into my inventory after making it help pls

IMPORTANT Dev Note -

I would first like to apologise for taking so long to write this dev note. There have been a few issues that have come up and need to be addressed.

Firstly, in the new update 1.19.- animals corpses are going invisible 30-40% of the time when transferring from 'bleeding' to a 'bled out' state, they still function and can be taken off the hook and butchered but for the duration on the hook remain invisible. This is something that I can't fix without a larger rewrite (even then that would be a gamble). I have tried to fix this issue and it's the same code snippet as the 'un-skinned' to 'skinned' state yet still refuses to work properly so I am unable to find a solution. I would like to reiterate that I at this moment can't fix this but I still want to continue to work on the mod and so I am at odds with my own mod.

Secondly, the drop rate mechanic implemented by G3rste, I broke and has remained broken for a long while unknown to me. This has caused double drop rate on all animals when butchering on a copper bench. This is NOT intended and will be fixed down to standard drop rates in the future. Yes I'm sure people will rack me over the coals for this but I did and still don't have any intention of doubling drop rates for the butchering process. The mod is designed to make the game harder but in a more immersive way.

Lastly, I over over-engineered a problem that has now got somewhat of a fix in 1.19.-. This is the bone carving mechanic, which has created more problems of it's own than it solves. Why did I not use the knapping mechanic in the game instead? You might reasonable ask. I thought I could do something a bit better but alas I tried and failed. This mechanic will be replaced with the main games knapping and all recipes will remain the same just using the base games mechanic.

I plan on going back to 1.18.15 for a update then release one for 1.19.- with the invisible bug still present unless I can fix it in the mean time.

Captain Oats

so we can not pick up aurchs or anything from the canane mods on our 1.19 server.  not sure what we can dop to test and help with this, it doesgive a tooltip or anything.

thanks

There was no option in the config to disble the bone pickaxe. I tried adding it anyway and it did not work. Is it still "BonePickaxeEnabled": false?

I suppose I can just delete the recipe files in the mod itself, hopefully that doesn't break everything. Edit: I did this and it did  seem to work, for both the bone pickaxe head and the bone needle.

Edit2: Decided to just remove bone carving entirely, I hope if the config issue is resolved this becomes/remains an option.

Not sure if this is a mod bug or not (assume so since its a new animal for 1.19) but some of the animals, like bears and moose, turn all white when you place them in the backpack slot.  They are still all white before skinning them.  Once you skin them, the hides drop and they turn into the pink 'skinned' color.

Wanted to post this as I hadn't seen it before and it just looks sort of weird, but doesn't seem to stop the actual functionality.

JD2

Thanks for the suggestions I have added them now

YourLocalViking

I will look into that because that sounds like a cool idea and does fit. Might not be doable but I will give it a try after I've got a update out for the new version.

Once the new version is out I will look into the bugs people have posted - Thank you for your patience!

Cool, immersive mod. (Dont know why its not in vanilla yet)
In addition to being immersive, it also provides unique resources, such as sinews, which can replace bowstring
or with which you can create sewing kit not even being a tailor. Or bone arrow tips, which are an alternative early option. Etc.

I recommend it to everyone who loves the atmosphere and mechanics of a Vintage Story. This mod complements it perfectly.

CaptainOats

Could you please make it so we can see the weight value of the animal before it was killed?
I'm in an RP server as a butcher so I would want to pay people more for higher weight value animals but since they bring me only the carcass I cant tell how much it weighed originally.

I appreciate you improving and making the gameplay more immersive. 
Your mods are as interesting as possible :3

Despite the minor bugs, I'm sure your mods will be some of the best and most requested. Moreover, I hope that Tyrone will include some of the functionality in the vanilla game.

CaptainOats

Not sure if you can edit the page where the mod is listed, but maybe add 2 things?

1.  The butchering table when crafted, and any large animal carcasses must be placed in the "backpack storage" slots on the right side of the inventory hot bar.  Large carcasses = anything bigger than raccoon, chicken, fox, and hare.

2.  Mod is not currently compatible with 1.19.X, bugs can occur until this is updated!  (Maybe add flashing red letters for this part :D)

Approaching an animal I have yet to identify seems to cause a crash the crash handler attributes to Butchering.

Disabled the mod and approached them, they're dead fox pups, killed by a fall it would seem. They're stood up in an apparent death animation glitch.

Shooting a Bone Arrow with a Crude Bow on 1.19.1 crashes the game with a Null Object Reference error.

Found a bug, when i shoot a bone arrow with a crude bow it crashes my game

Onre the butchering table goes into one of the rightmost slots (where you can place the baskets). You need to make sure one of those slots is empty to be able to pick it up. After that, you can place it by holding shift+ctrl and scrolling your mousewheel until you see the selector box in your hotbar at the butchering table slot. Then right click. You need to make sure that two blocks to the right, from the space you are trying to put it, are free as it extends to those two as well. 

Picking up larger animals (wolves and sheep for example) also require you to have one free"bag slots" on the right. Placing the animals on the hook is the same process with ctrl+shift and mousewheel.

i have a bug where i cannot get the primitiv butcher workbench pickup even if i craftet it. (i cannot set it in my inventar or place it if i threw it out on the ground i cannot pick it up)

Hey, just wanted to second the bug report for textures disapearing when the timer hits 0 for carcasses being bled out.  Im also having issues where the new animal textures are not rendering correctly on the meat hooks. 

Awesome! Thanks for the info and all your hard work keeping this mod running smoothly!

CaptainOats

So far the only bug that I saw while using it with the 1.19 stable is when the carcasses finish being bled out, the textures for the corpses would disappear, but so far not much changed from the times I used it in unstable releases.

Trug

Not able to relicate that bug on my end so all I can really say is I hope it doesn't happen again? Not sure what would be wrong.

Javes

Like the comment above you said, it gets placed in the inventory bag slot like a skep and you have to mouse wheel scroll to it to place it down.

AguynamedEd

Smokeing takes 4 hours as of right now. The smoking rack requires a lit campfire under it (the block below it). Note: the campfire can be fueled with peat and if the campfire doesn't have any thing to cook (and it's up to heat) the fuel burns slower so it's not as much fuel as you think to smoke meat.

INFO ON NEW VERSION UPDATES -

The stable came a little sooner than I thought so I'm a bit rushed to get out a stable version of the mod myself but expect it (hopfully) in the next week or so and then I will start adressing bugs that are still present. Thank you and happy butchering!

I know it's not updated yet but thought this might be worth passing on - skinned animals turn invisible on the hook once they reach the bled out stage but can still be removed and appear correctly after removal (this didn't happen during the release candidates), everything else I've touched so far seems to be working.

Love the mod! Great work! My only question is, how long does the drying rack take to smoke meat?

Javes

Did you place the table in your backpack slot, like a skep, like the description of the table says to do?  It won't fit in inventory and is not meant to.  Check the item description and then use your sprint key to either cycle through all the slots, including backpack, or E and then click the slot, remove whatever personal storage boost device you have in that slot and the table will auto-pick up.

After crafting the butchering table(with copper) im unable to put it in my inventory or pick it up. I have a lot of mods installed so im suspecting theres a conflict somewhere but i dont know what it could be. What about any of the alchemy mods?

IndigoRose It's not updated for the 1.19 stable version yet so there might be issues related to that.

HalfdeadKiller

To add to what he said, this is specific to multiplayer, only the person who puts animals onto hooks and butchering tables can see the animal, other clients do not see the animal, they do however see the blood and can still interact with it as if it was there.

Is there a fix for the picking up bear carcasses and crashing issue? Having this problem and I was hoping I'm just doing something wrong. 

Mod appears to work, but the animal models don't show up on the butchering hook and butchering table in 1.19.0 stable release.

CaptainOats,

First, really appreciate the mod, it's amazing. One potential bug, when using the bone carving tool to carve arrowheads the sawing sound never stops, even after I'm done carving. 

Thanks for all your time and effort!

no worries and no rush. having modded before i know how it goes. appreciate you.

kitsushadow

1.3.3 is most likely the last update i'm putting out for 1.18 and will move my efforts onto updating all the recent changes to 1.19 but it will be a few days at LEAST to do so because there is some strange changes within the animal files in the new update.

i think i see the issue. im testing the 1.19 but thats not the one you updated. we are on a 1.19rc server. should we be using 1.18 or 1.19? i assume 1.19. If 1.19 would you consider updating there also?

kitsushadow

It should be something like "BonePickaxeEnabled": true if you DO want it and "BonePickaxeEnabled": false if you DON'T want the pickaxe. It should auto populate a config file but if you have more trouble could you send a screenshot over discord?

@CaptainOats Whats the syntax in the config file? It didn't seem to populate the config option. I did delete the config file and reboot to see if it would be there.

Oh, next time I'll just post the Json then. I mean, I need to make the file myself, but that's how I've been translating in the past anyway. Just went through some crowdin stuff after the game was fully translated.

bringitonwimps

When I update to the newest version of game it will be fixed. Waiting for a stable release or two.

Yanazake

When I fix the translation download thing for the crowdin I will port over your translation (I need to speak with someone who knows what they are doing on that part).

I translated most of the mod over on crowdin to pt-br. Still missing the neopantheridae or whatever it's called and the handbook guide.

the aurochs is still not working for our server.  Will not let you pick it up like the other animals. We are actively using 1.19-rc8

kitsushadow

The new update is out and should work with the config, if you have any trouble please do let me know.

CaptainOats Ur the man. looking forward to it!

kitsushadow

I will have a patch out in the next day or so with a config option for bone picks.

Any reply in regards to config option for bone picks? We are witholding from using this mod b/c of it. It's a shame an entire mod, which is extremely well done, can't be used b/c it needs to add a pick which is unrelated to the core of itself.

Oh, my mistake, it's from PRIMITIVE TOOLS. I tend to use that with Primitive Survival and end up mixing both.

Actor

Most likely going to change the bone arrow head recipe to make flint arrows/crude arrows instead of bone arrows due to a few issues. (also you most likely have a mod installed that increases arrow damage because flint arrows are also -0.5 damage base game)

Yanazake

A few things, the animals take a fair bit of work to maipulate and make hang so I will only support compatility if the mod is up to date but even then I most likely will use a shortcut in how I hang the animals. Also bone arrows are to be changed (see above comment) and the primitive survival mod doesn't have bone arrows so I'm not sure what you mean?

ArtynGamin

Working on getting fish to hang on the smoking rack as I write this also adding in some more stuff for the smoking rack.

As a fan of lox I was a little sad I couldn't hang fish fillets in the smoking rack. Maybe in the future? I only have vanilla fish in the game, and they're even salmon :P

Oh this looks great!
I'd suggest the "more animals" mod to be added, but I'm not sure the vanilla chicken are already included.

Besides that... "creatures and critters" if that's up to date with 1.19 for sure. I SO would hang and skin those dang cassowaries >:C

Also, if this has bone arrows, try to make sure it's compatible with primitive survival.

After crafting the table, i'm not able at all to pick it up.It drops and thats it.And yes, i tried this :'you need a empty backpack slot to pick it up, then press LCTRL and scroll over to it so you can place it.' and 'You scroll to the backpack slots with the mouse wheel as if your placing a skep then right click to place' (can't even scroll trough my backpack).Guessing i'll have to go without the mod.

Also, bone arrows need to change their damage to 2 or even less, instead of -0.5.
Rn they just bounce back from creature

AlexFenixVa

You scroll to the backpack slots with the mouse wheel as if your placing a skep then right click to place

After crafting Primitive Butchering Table it refuses to be in inventory and being picked up which make difficult to use this mod. I don't know why.

UPD1: Switched to v1.2.2

UPD2: Why da (censored) you need to put butchering table into backpack slots? How do even place it in that case?

CaptainOats Dracorogue I did go back to double-check, and noticed this time that the copper plates on the bottom didn't change metals. Thanks for the info, guess I better go mine more copper lol

Trees from mods cannot be used for crafting butchering table.
Also bone pickaxe is overpowered and must be deleted, bone can't crush the rock.

Breaking rocks is currently locked behind gathering copper through sifting or surface recovery. Breaking rocks before that is a tier of progression the bone pick breaks. Access to stone give you access to cobblestone building materials and the quern which are also locked by getting a copper pick. 

JD2

That issue will be fixed when I port over the updates to the mod to the new version of the game.

Trainquilizer

I need to look into this more because I am struggling to replicate this bug even though multiple people have reported it, I can't fix until I do.

BentLizard

The bench requires a backpack slot due to balancing, this is the same as the skeps ingame.

Dagurmawth

You must be using a mod because the base game flint arrows do -0.5 damage and the bone ones are modeled off of that.

ArtynGamin

The Butchering Bench requires any tool past copper BUT needs copper plates for the recipe. (also the tools get used up so be warned).

DahBakon

Could you send me a picture of your mod list in Discord PM's I had someone else report this but I have yet to find the mod causing this issue.

kitsushadow

The pickaxe can't be used to break ore so I don't see how breaking stone for cosmetic purposes or getting yourself out of holes could be breaking tier progression. It was designed to mimic the antler pick in the lichen mod.

Hey, can you add a hook to disable the bone tools. Specifically the bone pickaxe. It really breaks the tier progression.

couldn't get the bone carving to work in the 1.18 latest version. not sure why. made the bone carving tool (which was missing a recipe for flint knife + flint i think) and then could select the item to carve with F, however i couldn't transfer the bone to my off hand to carve it at all. 

ArtynGamin had the same issue with mine where it wouldn't get made. Had to make a fresh set of each to do it, fair warning the tools were consumed on crafting.

I'm not sure if it's an error in the mod or if I'm misunderstanding something, but when I tried to craft a butchery bench with tin-bronze (ie the knife, cleaver, shears, and 2 plates were all made with copper-cassiterite alloy) it just straight-up didn't work? As in, there was no "product" result from the crafting grid, as though it were an invalid recipe. I checked the Handbook, and it said that plain copper tools/plates would work and those are a tier below bronze, so am I missing something or is this an actual issue??

The bone arrows need a fix.  They're currently set to a negitive damage value, causing them to be useless.  The bone arrows are set to -0.4, while flint arrows are at 5.5.  Bows apply a modifier to the arrow's damage, not the other way around.

BentLizard you need a empty backpack slot to pick it up, then press LCTRL and scroll over to it so you can place it.

I crafted a primitive butchering table, but it wont let me put it into my inventory so that it can be placed....had to throw it on the ground out of crafting menu, now i cant pick it up

I found a game crashing bug, using bone arrows crashes my game, idk if this happens with other bows, but it happened with the crude bow.

Using newest 1.19 rc, rc6 I believe, get this when trying to pick up a brown bear underwater:

EDIT:  I picked up a male brown bear underwater (bears can't swim well) with rc6 yesterday and it worked fine.  So not sure if "brown bears" as a whole are the entire root problem.  The immediate crash to desktop only happened when I tried to pick up a female brown bear.  Will try it again if I get another brown bear :)  Ok, crashed with a male brown bear this time.  No idea how I managed to pick one up yesterday with the same rc6, but oh well.

Running on 64 bit Windows 10.0.19045.0 with 16310 MB RAM
Game Version: v1.19.0-rc.6 (Unstable)
1/8/2024 7:43:32 PM: Critical error occurred in the following mod: butchering@1.1.0
Loaded Mods: butchering@1.1.0, buzzwords@1.6.0, hqzlights@1.1.1, drdecor@1.2.0, glowingarrows@1.2.0, HangingOilLamps@1.0.1, immersivecorpsedrop@1.0.1, millwright@1.1.3, moreicons_cs@1.1.0, peacockbasses@1.1.2, roas@1.0.0, sortablestorage@2.2.1, truesunfishes@1.1.2, visibleore@1.0.1, game@1.19.0-rc.6, egocaribautomapmarkers@2.6.0, betterfirepit@1.1.2, blocksoverlay@2.6.0, carryon@1.7.0-pre.3, fromgoldencombs@1.4.25, hudclock@3.4.0, petai@2.2.0, stickemup@1.1.0, creative@1.19.0-rc.6, survival@1.19.0-rc.6, bugnetcompatibility@1.0.1, feverstonehorses@1.6.0-rc.2, maltiezbows@1.0.1
System.Exception: Could not find butchering item deadbear-male-brown-3-dead
at Butchering.EntityBehaviorButcherable.OnInteract(EntityAgent byEntity, ItemSlot itemslot, Vec3d hitPosition, EnumInteractMode mode, EnumHandling& handled) in C:\Users\daifi\Desktop\Vintage Story Modding\butchering\butchering\src\EntityBehaviors\BehaviorButcherable.cs:line 49
at Vintagestory.API.Common.EntityAgent.OnInteract(EntityAgent byEntity, ItemSlot slot, Vec3d hitPosition, EnumInteractMode mode) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Entity\EntityAgent.cs:line 286
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.HandleMouseInteractionsNoBlockSelected(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 393
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.OnFinalizeFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 96
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ClientEventManager.cs:line 185
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 802
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 1006
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 674
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 649
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 78
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 317
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass9_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 128
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

I tested on 1.18.15(stable) but now that I look at the version of butchering I tested, it was 1.1.0 and should have been using 1.2.2

JudgeRW

Will add it to the list of stuff I need to make compatible

VaelophisNyx

In the next update I will put the number down to 0.2x from 0.3x as I feel this is still fair in terms of balance, also a cellar enviroment will help with the preservation.

bringitonwimps

Quartering would sadly take alot more work than you think as I would have to decontruct and remake all the animal models and assign textures to each individual part correctly. Also the crashing will be fixed once I bring the new updates of the mod to the new version of th game but that will take some time.

Stroam

Are you on the 1.19 version of the game? As I don't quite support that version yet.

I'll second trying picking up a vanilla brown bear didn't go so well. Bone arrows with recurve bow also caused a crash.

It appears to be the brown bears, black bears are fine.  game crashes if we pick up brown bears specifically

1. Can't seam to pick up aurochs in  Medieval Expansion mod( also think it would be neat if the cows and bears and things larger like moose need to be "quartered" to pick up
2. bears crash game when picking up
3. can't pick up horses from feverstone(idk if its supposed to work) also see Quartering idea above
4. Should do something with fish(both base game and primitive mod) scaling then filet.  also after filleting maybe guts/entrels as fertilizer?
5. and many more animal mods added in future obviously be really cool

Think this mod is really cool im activerly using 1.19 with the bear crashing client side issue.

thanks for your work, look forwartd to where this mod can go

personally I think the former 0.01x multiplier (at 32C!) for protein was fine, as it made it worth the cost of construction and the cost of upkeep on the butcher box
higher still leaves meat spoiling in single digit days at best, even at 1C

Would be cool to add More Animals to the compat list:
More Animals v1.3.1 - Vintage Story Mod DB

ok

Spookydorf

I will take a look and see if I can get it working.

Lohakar

I don't support the new version of the game right now due to the amount of bugs that are present, my applogies but you will have to wait for a few stables before I can confidently port it over.

Does it really work with Medieval Expansion?

I have the butchery bag in inventory and it shows four darker slots.

I've killed the auroch bull and the right button (and nothing else I've tried) won't pick it up.

v 1.19.0-rc.5

I tried it in a save game(Dw its a copied version of a save game) and the game wouldn't work, so it might not be compatible if added into an existing playthrough with A Culinary Artillery and Expanded Foods

Spookydorf

This mod should not conflict with those mods.

Does this mod conflict with A Culinary Artillery and Expanded Foods?

VaelophisNyx

That's not a bad idea but might have to be best done with a new system so would take a lot of work but I will write it down so I don't forget.

ArtynGamin

Hopfully you are able to get it all working and have a good time. Happy Butchering!

DaftCanuck Ohhh it never occurred to me to try that! Thanks, I'll give it another go :)

would be neat to have compatibility with vanilla's fish, as well as fish from the Fishing mod and Primitive Survival

Hmm. Alright, but I would Like to ask, right now The mod seems to not wanting to work with Vintage at all. I put the mod into the Mods, but I can't find anything about Butchering.

TimSithis

The table should go into one of the backpack slots which then you can scroll wheel to and place down.

Hey, just wanted to ask. Does anybody else have problems with the Table with the V1.1.5? I can't get it..and Can't equip it as it's invisable after crafting and even after gm. Seems Like it don't allows it.

Love this mod!  Read your update and I hope you feel well soon.  Just wanted to report that with the flint meat hook the bleeding animation continues playing even if there is no hung carcass and the hook is destroyed.   Not a huge issue, just wanted to make you aware. :)

Llittle update on health and development of the mod -

I got illness for Christmas, darn you Santa! and have been half in bed and out of bed for the past week. I was taking a short break for the Christmas holiday from modding (recharging my little brain) but that hasn't quite happened and now I'm stuck between illness and not quite finishing what I've needed to do on the mod for a new release on 1.18.15. So will need a bit more time to sort it all out. Thank for the patience and everybody has been super cool so far so I really I'm happy to continue putting my best into this mod for the forcible future!

Venusgate

Need to look more into this issue because I have no clue looking at that mod list why it would be doing something like that but thank you for bringing it up to me

@everyone with bag slot problems

I will also put some more info on the whole bag slot thing so people will be able to understand that you need a bag slot for the butchering bench somewhere (I thought it was in the guide already).

ArtynGamin the butchering tables go in to your backpack slots, so you will have to take off a backpack to pick it up. Once it is in your backoack slot you can select it by holding left CTRL and either pushing the numbers 1 - 4, or by scrolling with your mouse wheel.

The drifter drop rates just seems to be really low. There is a mod to increase it, but I havent tried it yet. EduardoPupucon

I just tried to make a primitive butchery table, and the item was made just fine but I couldn't pick it up?? i had empty inventory space for it, but it wouldn't go into the slots so I could only drop it, and then I couldn't pick it up to place it. What just happened???

@DragonKingKyo I'm having the same problem as you. I tried downgrading versions but that just made it crash instead. I'm on the 1.18.15 version of VS.

Update: I tried disabling Medieval Expansion as the author suggested in another post, but that didn't help, the latest version for 1.18.15 still doesn't work, butcher tables take up bag slots and can't be placed.

CaptainOats I saw you updated to include it, so I have not used the patch on this save.

Here is the mod list

imgur.com/a/Nrhc9Ih

Venusgate If you are using the Medival Expansion mod patch then I must stress that it is not mine nor it is updated as I have intergrated the same content into the base mod. I'm unsure why the models would be invisible, if you could provide any more info on what mods your have installed that would be good.

I'm running this and a slow of other mods in 1.18.15. It appears, at least on the primative bench, that most of the models are invisible when laid down to butcher. I have tried removing and reinstalling the mod to the latest 1.18.15 version, but I have not tried it on a creative save yet.

I do notice the black bone tips of the Aurochs cow model show up.

yeah i'm on 1.19 i removed the mod and still got things not dropping, so i think it may be a issue with the version

EduardoPupucon

Are you sure? i've not got any reports of that so far. What version are you using? Also things not dropping is a known major bug in the new release candidate for the base game so if you are using that then that might be your issue.

drifters don't drop anything with this mod

Simori

The knapping of carcasses is not my mod and I am soon to change the way you get bone stuff from my mod as I've found knapping bone to be quite annoying in sunlight.

Hello, I'm enjoying your mod a lot, but I do have a question.

Is the knapping of single bones (the ones you get by destroying carcasses) intended? I also can knap medium (and bigger) carcasses, but once cancelled before chosing an item, the carcass automatically drop a single bone.

@DragonKingKyo they go in the bag slots

I am using 1.1.5 and for some reason the primative butchering table when crafted will not go into my inventory nor can I interact with it after it falls to the ground from being dropped can anyone tell me why this is happening or is it that version that is messed up

im brand new to vs and couldnt resist installing all the mods and have already waded through a bunch of mods that are for the next unstable version of vs. 

I was having the same issue with bone arrows making the client instantly crash.  as soon as the arrow is released the game quits.  im running vs 1.18.15 and i had the 1.1.0 mod (for vs 1.19)

i downgraded to mod version 1.1.5 (not sure why the version numbers are like this) and i can now miss all my bone arrow shots without crashing.  maybe triple check the mod version is the correct one for your game Exmortis

CaptainOats Exmortis I was having the same problem last night. I went through all of my mods to see what was causing the issue, and it was not this butchering mod. Turns out it was the trader camps mod causing my single player server to crash. It still allowed me to wander around but when trying to throw or shoot it would use the ammo/spear but nothing would come out. After disabling it everything is working again. Not sure why, maybe an incompatibility with another mod?

Exmortis

I've been unable to replicate the bug on my end but will keep an eye out for it in the future.

yes, that seems to fix it.  I had the more piles installed at first as well and tried disabling it then and must have forgotten to test that option after. Thank you

@CaptainOats
I am using 1.18.15 and the latest version of this mod
I have a couple of other mods, but nothing that interferes with Bows or Archery at all.

SalazarWindriver

If you mean the medival Expansion Addon then try disabling that. I didn't make it and it's not needed anymore due to intergration into the base mod. Also make sure you have the correct mod version for 1.18.15.

I seem to have trouble with this mod, game version 1.18.15 with medieval expansion, the add-on, expanded foods, and hide and fabric.  For some reason, I can't pick up either a fox or ram with both just an empty hand and an empty bag slot.  I also do not see a butcher bench or hooks in the guide. I'm not sure if mod conflict or something else.

Exmortis

What version of the game and mod are you using? That would help narrow things down.

sandalsocks

They act like the in-game skeps due to balancing reasons and go into the bag slots so you are deterred from running around with them. Glad you were able to work it out.

Okay, I'm totally lost.

Are primitive butchering tables supposed to default to the bag slot? This seems like a bug. I can't place it.

Edit: Disregard, didn't realize you could press Ctrl+(1-4) to select bag slots - thanks Micomi from Discord for the info.

Hey CaptainOats

Just started up another Vintage Story run, and the Bone Arrows cause my client to crash when used
Not sure why, haven't done any investigating yet, just thought to bring it up

Tankwv

I will look into this, make sure you are using the newest update of the mod in the mean time and any more info would alos be appreciated.

Venusgate BraniyaKz

About removing mine or other peoples items: I would very much hesitate to remove other peoples items even if it's only when my mod is installed and I hope that other modders would the same. This is because I balance my mod around having those items and I think that having more ways to do something is fine as it gives more choice even if it's simliar items.

so i was just trying to put the aurochs leg from Medieval Expansion up on the copper meat hook and it keeps carshing my game i did it eariler in my playthrough on the flint ones and it worked then  so if you got any insite let me know

@CaptainOats - I have a suggestion! Do you think that you could implement compat with A Culinary Artillery by building your butcher hooks with their large hooks, which can be casted into molds? Certainly would gain access to more variants, and would make more sense. Also, for cross-mod compatability, consider shutting off your smoked meats and related items/recipes when primitive survival is installed? I was going through and testing things out, and I thought these things would probably be nice additions to the roadmap. :)

I love the new compatabilities.

However, Nat's Survival Expanded has a stronger bone arrow recipe than the new one you made.

I'll probably never make your arrows if I have that mod turned on - not that I think the balance is unfair.

Personal suggestion would be to replace Nat's recipe and items (bone arrow and bone arrowhead) if the mod is detected, so there aren't two arrowheads floating around.

Or if you are feeling spunky: Replace Nat's arrowhead with yours, and have the recipe also require fiber. So you have a less breakable, slightly more damaging bone arrow varient if you are eating more mat'ls.

It was the Medival Expansion patch.  Didn't read the latest description to it.  It's causing the no load issues.

CaptainOats

Super weird isses but thank you a lot for clearing things up, appreciate your work and commitment!

Soumagnei

Could you tell me if you have any other mods installed?

Jonathonsky

The animals do rot on hooks and I've always liked the idea of adding ice to something to help preserve it for longer but I'm not sure if I would do it here.

Same issue as Soumagnei, No recipies or items load into the game.  Single player or server.  Correct version is installed; 1.1.5 for a 1.18.15 server.

Not sure why but when i make any of the tables and after an animal has been skined and removed from the hook, the resulting items fall to the floor unable to be picked up or placed?

Am i doing something wrong?

Correction i can pick up bled bodies.

When the creature is on the hook about to be skinned and you point to it with your mouse pointer it does not say how much time left till it rots. Does that mean your animals wont rot as long as they are on the hooks? Just trying to make sure it cant be used for perma preservation as a way of cheating in my games.

I only noticed because I was going to suggest you add increased preserved time if we put the animals on a hook in a cellar with ice blocks.

EDIT:

I just realized the time was still counting when you retrieve it and you look at it in your inventory. It was just not shown in the tooltip when you hang it up. I also realize my suggestion might not be realistic either, I dont know just a thought I had.

Bernd_Kocht

I've just checked and your right. I have no clue why it would break in such a way due to the fact we don't touch the pie code at all let alone most of the other stuff. I will speak with the mod owner if I can't figure out a solution on my own.

Edit: I loaded up the same world again to do more testing and it seems to work fine now? I have no clue what's going on. Like I can put meat and veg into a pie fine now. So strange.

Edit of an Edit: Turns out it's a bug with expanded foods just sometimes the pies don't work how they should as explained by the mod author.

CaptainOats

Loading up the mods works fine, true. But Butchering seems to revert the recepies back to vanilla. Easiest way to reproduce is to try and mix meat and veggies in a single pie (which expanded foods allows). With Butchering also loaded, it doesn't. Unique items don't seem to be affected as you can still craft/spawn them  but you can't actually interact with them to craft the nessesary recepies.

Bernd_Kocht

For the low weight sheep it does seem to be the correct values although you might of gotten a little lucky on the fat and skin rolls. Also how does this mod excally 'kill' expanded foods etc? I was able to load it up with both mods installed (plus dependancies) without issue?

CaptainOats First off thank you for your quick response and investment! I'm on 1.18.15 of the game and 1.1.5 of the mod. Made a new World for testing and only butchering mod enabled. Low weight sheep drop 6-7 meat and vanilla fat and skin per field harvest. Less than what I had before but still seems not like your intended values. Also Butchering seems to kill other Mods like expanded foods, idk if that's been reported before.

Soumagnei

If you are running a server with 1.18.15 then the 1.1.5 version is what you will need. If your server is running 1.19.0-Pre's then I do have a version out (1.1.0) but it is not being supported by me as the game is unstable on the new version.

BranTuna

I'm not sure how compatibility works with Xskills right now so I'm going to speak with the owner to find out to see if I can get an easier way.

Bernd_Kocht

Are you running the 1.18.15 game - 1.1.5 mod version? are you on the 1.19.0-Pre's as I right now am only supporting the older version for now. I will check though if your problem does persist as that doesn't seem like it's working properly.

Items and guide shows up in game, seems to be working well but I still get 18 meat from field harvesting a Bighorn Ram. Any ideas? Tried with only this mod running.

@CaptainOats - I'm currently in the middle of writing out a comprehensive patch file to bring multiple mods' compatibility to xskills, including this mod. I've added xSkills' "XSkillsCarcass" as "name" to each butchercreatures itemtypes, including those for mods you're currently supporting. Here's what it looks like: PasteBin . I haven't tested it yet, and there's alot more in my actual patch than just this, but it's a start and should theoretically work.

Edit: I forgot to add the inverted modid condition to the fox.

Greetings!

What version of the game does this mod require? We have added this mod to our server, but for some reason we can not find any craft recipes in H menu and items in the world. Is it supposed to be like that?
We do not have More Piles mod and the Butchering is definetely installed- there is a bull corpse appear in items list in creative mod, but no other entities from this mod, like hooks and tables.

Kind regards,
Awesome mod, hope to try it out soon

CaptainOats
Maybe, hah, but I can only really understand the code a little bit, when it comes to writing new code, well, I'll leave that to my betters!
But yeah, I wanted to explain how I got there too, because there are a few other mods I found that have similar issues, mostly with listing resin blocks.
So, finding a solution that excluded them without having to whitelist was very nice.

I couldn't tell you if there are any other compatibility issues; I think the geology mod worked with it fine as I think it listed those stones in the recipe as well, but I didn't need to test it as I had slate.
Still though, I would love an update like that for my modded server. I grabbed a bunch of mods for immersion's sake and this was one of the first I really wanted.

Thank you very much for hearing me out :)

Jonathonsky
Hold Sprint (ctrl by default) and use the mouse wheel to scroll to the bags, then crouch (shift) and right click to place it.

How do you place the butchering table? Its in my bag slot and I cant select it.

EDIT:

Thank you. I have been playing without knowing about this functionality for a few months now. Much appreciated Jesfest

Jesfest

Well done, your a modder now! :P

I will look into implementing a patch to add compatibility with those mods.

I have both wildcraft trees and wild farming revival installed, and neither work with some of the recipes involved. The big one is the primitive butchering table needing vanilla logs, which basically don't exist anymore lmao.
Wouldn't mind patching it myself but I can't figure out exactly how to make a compatibility mod.

Edit: I tinkered around a bit, removed the "allowed variants" log article, and that allowed me to craft it, but not actually pick it up.
I figured that removing what I thought was a whitelist and allowing the generic log-* entry to take care of the legwork would fix the problem. guess not lol.

Edit2: no wait that actually did fix it, I was just too naive to realize it was a backpack slot item. the only effect the allowed variants seemed to do, was prevent resin log blocks, and all non-vanilla logs from being used.
I should also mention I am using 1.1.5. or v 1.18.15, not the 19-pre. slipped my mind.

Final edit?: I solved it, maybe? I changed the recipe code from
"game:log-*"
to "game:log-placed-*-ud"
no allowedvariant needed since resin logs are "log-resin-*-ud", and depleted resin blocks are  "log-resinharvested-*-ud"

Seems like it works fine now. that was a fun 4 hours starting with 0 knowledge 😂

CaptainOats

Yes you're right, Caninae should disable spawning of arctic and red foxes but it doesn't, i've also recently found another fox (from caninae mod) and i could pick it up. Thanks, for response, i'll head out to Caninae comments.

Doesn't need to be updated. It Just Works! I'm not sure if I'm getting full meat this way or not, though. Gotta kill some more wolves...

Quartal

I was under the immpression that I read somewhere (maybe the moddb page) that Caninae is supposted to remove base game foxes from spawning so my mod removes it's butcherable 'tag' on foxes when that mod is installed to stop errors, I will see what I can do but that might take some time to work out what's going on and possibly to speak with Tenth Arcitect (the mod author of Caninae).

l33tmaan

This mod 'should' work fine with that installed as long as it doesn't hyjack too much of the harvesting code but looks like that mod isn't even updated for the most recent version or even NET7.

BranTuna

Right now, I don't belive so unless the author of that mod has done somewthing without mentioning it but I don't think that is the case. So my confirmation is no for now.

@CaptainOats - I just want to confirm, but does the latest version of this mod take into account any bonuses provided by xSkills?

Does this mod work well with Immersive Corpse Drop?

CaptainOats

Im having issues with with forest foxes. I'm playing with Caninae and Patherinae mods if that helps. 

Quartal

In testing I was able to pick up all the foxes (forest and arctic). Was there one in particular you having issues with?

Right now if you destroy a hook while a creature is bleeding it will not be able to be put back on the hook, this is to stop people skipping the bleeding timer but at some point I might try to implement a better system.

You still can't pick up foxes in v1.1.5, i'm also unable to put a creature back on the hook after destroying the hook while the animal was still bleeding out.

Geoff_

The Fat should drop from a creature when you skin it on the skinning hook instead of the butchering bench in the new mod update. Are you using a flint hook or copper? As a copper hook will now provide better results than the flint one. If you change to a copper hook and still have problems then please do say

The mod also does take into account drop rate bonuses such as class traits and will look for if the animals are low weight so that might be a factor in why you might be getting low drops.

Hello,

My friend and I are loving your mod, thank you for your work.

It happends that on our playthrough with it than we seems to barely be able to drop grease from butchering animals on the copper table. Tho the description says that you didn't intend to modifiy the drop rates. So, are we particularly unlucky or is it maybe a bug ?

Please help, winter is coming... ;)

Luksor

There currantly is a config file that you can change drops rates BUT not sure it works on the newmod update I put out so use with great caution if it works at all that is.

Kaelyn

I have messed around with the arrows and fixed that particular issue but have been unable to sove another (my arrows tips are untextured) but I think you can live with that and still have every other arrow be visable.

toasted_

Thank you and Kaelyn for the encouragement, just to let you know there is a butchery bag you can make and it will help with carrying larger beasts.

Was very hesitant at first with this mod, but loving it so far!
I had thought that animals taking up a backpack slot (for larger hunts) would be an issue, but it's actually quite rewarding instead only having two backpacks at once, to allow you to haul two at once!

Hello CaptainOats ! :D
First of all, thanks for all the updates and your work of passion on your mod ! =)
Game changer for me ! :D (Makes me think of and play a lot like Rimworld too and I like it =)

I come to you with a rather small issue, (I tested this bug with a clean vanilla no mods and only with/without (and either, not at the same time :P) the 1.1.3 and 1.1.2 version of your butchering mod) : What I see is that with your two last updates, shooted arrows on the ground become invisible ^^.

Said arrows are still fully functionnal, can be picked up and everything else is fine beside being invisible. Desactivating the 1.1.3/1.1.2 mod version solve this issue.

I tested and played with the 1.1.1 version of your Butchering mod and in this one, everything is fine :D ^°^ !

I hope this small feedback may be of help in your modding passion ! :D
Thanks for everything and have a nice day ! ^°^

Can you add some configuration to adjust drop? For me this mod is just making hunting very time consuming it would be better to make whole process of butchering more rewarding (for example 150% or 200% drop while you are using steel hook and so on to reward player progressively) than just vanilla drop at best.

I added on the discord official in your mod chat some screenshot of bug

Christmas comes early new update for the old build is out! -

I backtracked some of the changes to make it compatible with the 1.18.15 version of the game so now you can play with without beign an unstable build

PLEASE BACK UP YOUR WORLDS AND SAVES THOUGH because of the changes in the background are quite large so if you have an existing world it *may* cause some issues if you have had an old version of the mod already installed.

yeah thanks i did'nt know you could scroll through the bag slots but i figured it out 

Word of warning -

This new update only works with 1.19.-Pre 5 as it would seem that Tyron is changing the animal files little by little each Pre and I can't make an update for every version.

MagicWand92FS

Make sure your placing the butchering table to the left of where you want it to be placed as it will extend two blocks rightward (from where you are facing). Other than that I'm unsure why you would not be able to place it. If you still can't place it then I will double check the code.

hey is there any known incompatibility's / weird controls? cause i can't place the butchering table. thanks great mod btw

The Background Overhaul 1.1.0

• All of the drops should work as intended as we now fully just use the base game values and either mulitply them or divide them to get the ratios of what we want
• Smoking meat now only takes 2 hours (this might go up as I look into making the meat usable in meals)
• The primitive hook (the flint one) now only gives 80% stuff whilst the copper one gives 100%
• All benchs and hooks can be now picked up without them BREAKING. The bench requires a backpack slot but the hooks do not but don't stack.
• Added in a basic resource you get from butchering bushmeat creatures using the benches (one of a few things to come in the future)
• Bone knapping comes in this update so wake up all your sleepy bones and knap bone arrrow heads, non-ore gathering bone picks and bone needles for slightly cheaper sewing kits
  
  MOD COMPATIBILITY
• The background code that has been added means that if a mod creator adds in a modded drop then the mod will now 'carry' that through to the butchering bench or hooks and drop when you butcher a creature (it will still be subject to the lower/higher rates of the mod)
• This update has one mod compatible with it (the Pantherae mod) but I will soon be adding more as this was more of a test of if it would work with the new system (as i have said ALL creature mod compatiblity will use generic models as this saves alot of time on my end).
  
  
  It's been a long time coming and it may be a slight dissapointment in terms of content but I assure you that the foundations had to be broken and relayed for the mod to properly continue development. Hope you all like the direction so far - CaptainOats

Ragolution

The carcasses last about 2 days from kill to rot and yes they do rot on the hooks.

Chumber

The bags in the new update will be able to be made with papyrus. Thanks for the heads up.

Just a little bit of Info about the new update coming soon -

In regards to modded creatures and some of the base game animals (Deer) -

For the modded creatures I am using 4 generic carcasses Small, Medium, Large and Huge which represent the animals on the hooks (They look a little cartoony but I can always change them later)

KEEP in mind though I still need to do work to 'link' up the modded creatures to said models so only 1 mod is 'linked' up right now (The mod Pantherae) but more will be on the way sooner rather than later.

For the deer in the base game I have decided to do something similar but instead of 'generic' I have put them into 3 categories large deer, deer and baby deer. this means if you kill and carry back a large deer such as an elk it will look a certain way on the hook (most likely like a white-tailed deer) but if you kill a smaller deer it will look different and so on for the baby too.

Blaiyze I've got the patches functional. They'll be included in the next Ancient Tools update ^_^

How long does a carcass keep while stored on the hook? Does it have any kind of 'spoilage' factor?

There's a compatibility issue between Butchery and Ancient Tools - the brain item that Ancient Tools adds to the harvest of animals doesn't drop when you butcher an animal on the butchery table. I've been fiddling and attempting to patch this on my own but my code skills are very minimal. I've let the author of Ancient Tools know as well.

Is it intentional that the butchering bag can't be made with papyrus? I added the recipe to the mod on my server because we have some players starting in the equator zones where there are no cattails, but figured I'd ask.

Big fan of the mod, keep up and get well soon, awating the uptade, I also would hope you would add compatabilty with the feverstone mod, and maybe the Fauna of stone age mod, both have high substantial users

That all sounds fantastic! Except for the part where youve been sick lately. I've been really sick too. Something's been going around. At least here in the midwest-US. 

Anyways, I look forward to the day that the xSkills compat feature is added. 

As for the hooks and butcher table drops taking up a bag slot, that sounds wonderful! I think it makes perfect sense.

Get well soon!

CaptainOats

Apologies to all butcher's waiting for the new update, I've been super unwell as of late and it's been hard to get the motivated to get out of bed let alone do modding.

I am still unwell but will push myself to do at least look at the mod today (It's probably good to try to motivate myself to do something other than sleep)

Some notes on the mod -
I have come up with a compromise for the whole can't break the butchery table or hooks. You now will be able to pick the up when broken bench and hooks will take up a bag slot like a hive so you can't carry them as easily but you won't lose your hard earned tools in making them, if you do break them.

(Some feedback on weither the hooks should be a bag slot would be appreciated)

Thanks for the feedback and I will try my hardest not to sleep the day away!

Ryuu

-- In the next update I will have a foundation that should allow for more compatibility for mods such as those.

VaelophisNyx

-- I will also increase the resistance of the bench so it's not so easy to break.

Telemachus

-- I am looking into compatipility for Xskills but that won't be in the next update.

I'm not experiencing the weak butcher table gripes that many people have reported (at least not yet?). 
My only request so far is that there be a compatibility patch for the xSkills mod as iHeroLix has suggested.

Love this mod man, but im gonna agree with the poster below, the butchery tables durability needs to be increased a little, its easy to accidentally break it when using it. Other than that, this mod is fantastic and really fits in with vintage stories survival gameplay loop.

keep up the good work!

Small gripe: the buthcher table has waaaay too little resistance, which when paired with the bones spawning on top of it as a block causing you to have to break those and sometimes also break the table...kinda irritating.

Otherwise it's alright.

Requesting https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/7545 to be patched-in so butchering can be used on all of the subfamily Caninae. Also, if possible, https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/6597 Capreolinae and https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/5788 Pantherinae too. Lol. I know it's a lot of work but your mod and theirs will be miraculous together. Who's with me?!

this mod could use a video guide in the preview 

Hello,

Loving the mod, is there any chance to provide compatability patches for xSkills and/or Hide And Fabric mods?

CaptainOats

I forgot to write that you can receive skin from a given animal during skinning

Ryuu

Right now I confiedent it doesn't give exp for xskills and I will also speak with the FeverstoneWilds people too about that patch

Kaofan

I will look into that crash.

Thank you for the polish Lang file.

I am going to be working on mod compaitlibty in a new update that might work with FeverstoneWilds.

Would this be something you would need to take care of or FeverstoneWilds mod author?:

[Error] Patch 2 (target: game:entities/land/bear.json) in feverstonewilds:patches/entities/vanillaEntities.json failed because supplied path /server/behaviors/10/aitasks/1/entityCodes/0 is invalid: The json path /server/behaviors/10/aitasks/1/entityCodes/0 was not found. Could traverse until /server/behaviors/10, but then 'aitasks' does not exist. Full json at this path: { "code": "butcherable", "item": "butchering:deadbear-male-{type}-1-dead" }

[Error] Patch 3 (target: game:entities/land/bear.json) in feverstonewilds:patches/entities/vanillaEntities.json failed because supplied path /server/behaviors/10/aitasks/3/entityCodes/0 is invalid: The json path /server/behaviors/10/aitasks/3/entityCodes/0 was not found. Could traverse until /server/behaviors/10, but then 'aitasks' does not exist. Full json at this path: { "code": "butcherable", "item": "butchering:deadbear-male-{type}-1-dead" }

(I commented to you and them)

CaptainOats

I use Butchering bag and it crashed on me

Running on 64 bit Windows with 32735 MB RAM
Game Version: v1.18.13 (Stable)
2023-09-23 10:13:19: Critical error occurred
Loaded Mods: ATadMoreLight@1.0.0, bedrespawner@1.0.0, DeepStorage@0.0.3, millwright@1.0.9, moreclassesrevised-v1-0-4@1.0.4, playerlist@1.6.0, primitivesurvival@3.2.8 , rpvoicechat@2.0.2, viescraftmachines@2.2.2, game@1.18.13, alchemy@1.6.16, animalcages@2.2.0, betterfirepit@1.1.1, butchering@1.0.9, carryon@1.6.0, commonlib @2.2.0, cooperativecombat@1.1.1, extendedhudinfo@1.0.4, medievalexpansion@3.11.1, creative@1.18.13, survival@1.18.13, xlib@0.7.4, awearablelight@1.0.8, betterbamboo@1.0 .2, maltiezfirearms@0.1.11, onestick@1.0.1, playercorpse@1.8.0, xskills@0.7.5
System.Collections.Generic.KeyNotFoundException: The given key '-#75251e' was not present in the dictionary.
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiElementItemSlotGridBase.RenderInteractiveElements(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Elements\Impl\Interactive\Inventory\GuiElementItemSlotGridBase.cs:line 509
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiComposer.Render(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\GuiComposer.cs:line 695
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiDialog.OnRenderGUI(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Dialog\GuiDialog.cs:line 379
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.GuiManager.OnRenderFrameGUI(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\GuiManager.cs:line 318
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ClientEventManager.cs:line 185
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 790
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 983
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 668
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 643
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 77
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 313
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass9_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 129
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

Event Log entries containing Vintagestory.exe, the latest 3
==================================
{ TimeGenerated = 2023-09-22 17:06:06, Site = , Source = Application Error, Message = Erroring application name: Vintagestory.exe, version: 1.18.13.0, timestamp: 0x64b07659
Faulting module name: openal32.dll, version: 1.23.0.0, timestamp: 0x63dd31ad
Exception code: 0x40000015
Error offset: 0x00000000000df046
Faulting process ID: 0x0x3cec
The time the faulty application started: 0x0x1d9ed492213ec88
Faulting application path: E:\Vintagestory\Vintagestory.exe
Faulting module path: E:\Vintagestory\Lib\openal32.dll
Report ID: 47fd6094-b70f-4d38-8525-395013a9d0a6
Full name of the causing package:
Application ID relative to the offending package: }
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{ TimeGenerated = 2023-09-22 13:15:27, Site = , Source = Application Error, Message = Faulting application name: Vintagestory.exe, version: 1.18.13.0, timestamp: 0x64b07659
Faulting module name: openal32.dll, version: 1.23.0.0, timestamp: 0x63dd31ad
Exception code: 0x40000015
Error offset: 0x00000000000df046
Faulting process ID: 0x0x49a8
The time the faulty application started: 0x0x1d9ed459a446adf
Faulting application path: E:\Vintagestory\Vintagestory.exe
Faulting module path: E:\Vintagestory\Lib\openal32.dll
Report ID: 56f31e81-5785-4137-9b6e-6f9ab8730843
Full name of the causing package:
Application ID relative to the offending package: }
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{ TimeGenerated = 2023-09-21 01:49:44, Site = , Source = Application Error, Message = Erroring application name: Vintagestory.exe, version: 1.18.12.0, timestamp: 0x64b07659
Faulting module name: openal32.dll, version: 1.23.0.0, timestamp: 0x63dd31ad
Exception code: 0x40000015
Error offset: 0x00000000000df046
Faulting process ID: 0x0x3f18
The time the faulty application started: 0x0x1d9ec1d16971008
Faulting application path: E:\Vintagestory\Vintagestory.exe
Faulting module path: E:\Vintagestory\Lib\openal32.dll
Report ID: 2377e529-7bad-44da-96c1-e29fc1a5ed2a
Full name of the application causing the error:
Application ID for applying the error: }

CaptainOats

So what will it be like?

CaptainOats

The question is, will you release an update or another mod with this mod: https://mods.vintagestory.at/feverstonewilds

I want to add the same mechanics as in this mod

CaptainOats

Polish version

Butchering 1.0.9

does this give xp and benefit from xskills at all if it is on?

T_R_O_L_E , CaptainOats, excuse me guys, I looked at the Hide and fabric mod, it does have a lot of nice recieps, but the hdie variants seems less important, can we maybe disable that and other parts that confilct with the butchering mod, get the best of both worlds ?

T_R_O_L_E

That's a bit of a hard one and I will have to say at this point full compatiblity won't happen for a long time/at all.

My appoglies but the two mods confilict in ways that I am unsure how to fix.

Hi

Are you planning to make it compatible with the mod Hide And Fabric?

Version 1.18.10. Hope we get 1.18.11 soon, because 10 is creating some problems.

edit: Oh wait, i realized i have the 1.0.1 version of the mod. I guess forget about it.

Michaloid

Which version of the mod are you using? As I fixed a raccon issue a few versions ago.

Found out that putting raccons in the hook will crash the game.

In my opinion, butchering animals should be done with the butcher knife instead of a simple knife (not talking about skinning the animal's fur). Or at least get more rewards with the butcher knife. But other than that, i love this!

narkoticici

This mod should be safe to install mid play through but like all mods PLEASE backup your world/save before adding mods.

Hello can i add to my save with no problems its medium modded

Scarlette

Hello there. Currantly we only touch vanilla drops for animals so technically if you 'vanilla' harvest or field harvest as I usually call it then you should still get brain drops but just lower vanilla loot. I appglogies if this isn't the best but it's currantly how the framework of the mod is set up. Oh and just to let you know if your also run Hide and Fabric with Butchery it has the same 'issues'.

Also if you don't like the mod or have feedback please do post something to me on Discord at CaptainOats or here. The mod should be safe to unistall if you don't feel like it's your style of play too (PLEASE save a backup before you do though).

Hello, I am thinking about adding this mod to my next play through. I also have the Ancient Tools mod active which adds the possiblity to brains dropping when you harvest an animal. Will this conflict with this mod? 

T_R_O_L_E

We are most likely going to keep it as it is for now but I do appreciate the suggestion.

RayTC

Yes but currantly you only get meat from vanilla harvesting (this will change in the future)

Can you still butcher an animal (albeit with reduced drops) like in vanilla?

I also noticed that when removing the skin falls into the block on which or under which the hook hangs, and if it is a rock or a cave, then the skin can climb up the mountain, which is not very convenient, can this be changed somehow? So that the skin falls under the mascara or immediately into inventory as resin.

T_R_O_L_E

I will speak with Co-Author G3rste and see what we can come up with in regards to balancing the hide drops. Please allow us a day or two as these things need to be carefully done, thanks.

6 rabbits, two raccoons and one fox were killed. I did it with a flint hook and with the help of a flint knife on a bone handle. I also noticed that during cutting, the vanilla exploration animation (Mahon with a knife) is not played, but only the sound.

T_R_O_L_E

How many small animals did you kill? and was it with the copper bench (the way we have it set up should give you a better range than vanilla but I will have to do more testing)

Ostross

That is very much a bug regarding the hare and sheep, they should both have Absolute Minimum amounts that they drop with male-hare being 1 meat and male-sheep being 8 (tomorrow I will speak with the Co-Author about possible slips in the code)

Also, tried butchering a hare and a sheep, but they didn't drop any meat after being butchered. What remained was a carcass (bones) on the butchering table.

I strongly suggest working on making this compatible with Primitive Survival, due to the mod's huge popularity.

Also since butchering an animal takes longer, might be good for now to increaes yields from animals.

For some reason I can't get skins from small animals like hares or raccoons, what could be the problem?

This is gonna take a while now, isnt it? love the idea of the mod, always appreciate modders who add more realism to the game, I always wonder why devs in General somtimes miss interesting features and mechanics like this,

Besilas

Darn bears are the bane of my ingame VS life and outside too. It's been fixed now, thanks

Love this mod, only issue I've come across is after killing a bear upon picking it up leads to the game crashing

Spaz1705

Fixed that in new bug fix update. Thanks for the report.

New crash. Happened when trying to hang a racoon on a hook. https://pastebin.com/gzWCn6qZ forgot the crash log, my bad.

PATCH NOTE CLARIFICATION: Added in a 'AbsoluteMinAmount' into the raw red/bush/poultry meat of adult animals. So you will get a minimum amount of meat when butchering.*

*This is a value that is half the max value the random number gen will give you in the mod for example: adult pigs give Min 8 to Max 10 raw red meat but with this AbslouteMinAmount it will give 5 raw red meat AT THE VERY LEAST even with if modifiers would 'pull' it lower.

It is only applyed to the raw red/bush/poultry MEAT of ADULT animals. So baby killing isn't ideal and fat and hide still the same for now.

Good day.

This is a great mod that complements the game perfectly and I look forward to its further development. I would like to suggest adding a translation into Ukrainian, and I can try to help with this.

CaptainOats

Thanks for the update
I think the Butchering Efficiency multiplier will be great and using basic carcasses is a good solution.

In regards to skinning racks, I did notice the body changing colour, but was unsure what was considered "done", however they never stopped bleeding. Even when I removed the carcass, the hook continued bleeding.... bit weird but I didn't pay it much heed.

Exmortis

See my other comment about drops rates.

Want to just let you know the skinning rack's hanging body will change colour when bled out also the body should stop bleeding when ready too. The blood might need to be made a bit more obvious.

Ostross

When you pick up a carcass it gets coverted into an item from the mod and can no longer be field harvested. We applogize but this is a limitation that we can't change.

Speaking with G3rste the co-author of the mod and looking at the feedback so far, I've come up with a basic plan of action:

Done now:
Hitboxes of Skinning hooks made to be smaller so you can fit them in corner's easier.
Copper Skinning hook and Butchering Table return SOME of the resources when broken (hooks and plates).

Coming sooner:
Looking into drop rates* *See below*
Config on what is called 'butcheringEfficiency'. Which is our multiplier effect for the tables and hooks.
Animals 'field harvested' will give rough or damaged hides that can only be used to make pelts when combined with fat but not used for leather making. This will still be in low amounts but will perhaps be more realistic to still get something despite not using the proper tools?

Coming later:
Mod compatibility with animal mods. Using basic carcasses for the foreseeable future.
More Items/recipes to do stuff with.

**Drop Rates:**
I notice some people talking about low drop rates and I would like to explain about this. I start with an example. A hare-male drops 0.5 hide on average with 0 variation in the base game. but in the mod drops 0.4 to 0.6 of the same. So technically the mod SHOULD be dropping almost the identical amount of stuff (given the same weight of the animal, copper butchering table etc). I will have to look more into this as we use a slightly different random number generator than the base game so maybe there is some hiccup in that or the modifiers we pull. This is hard to calculate the true drop rates as we need a sample size of 100's of the same animal to be tested (not something that we would want anybody to sit through). Just wanted to let people know that I will look into this and might be able to give a better answer at some point.

If I take a carcass into my inventory and then change my mind and decide to skin it in the field with a knife, how do I do this? I seem not to have this option anymore and can only place it and pick it back up now.

hi, with this mod skinning animals on a hook gives very little hide. i got no hides from 6 hares and 1 medium hide from 2 wolves.

Hey CaptainOats

Excellent mod concept!  This definately fills in a gameplay gap in the game, however at the moment it needs a little work.
I've found that Artic Foxes and Hares do not seem to drop any hide when skinned. Also there's no prompts indicating that corpses are done hanging, as they stay at "00:00" and done say they're done

IMO, proper butchering at a table should be buffed to 125% and 150% respectively for the two butchery tables, while vanilla butchering sits at 75%, as with the early butcher table atm, you get maybe 2 meat from 3 corpses.

Additionally, would love to see support for other animal mods.  I use a few, and with this mod + them, it basically makes vanilla animals worthless, since the modded animals can still be butchered in the field.
The idea of having generic carcass models for animal size is good

Thanks again for the great mod and keen to see where it goes!

Hell yes!

I second the interest for the suport for the more popular animal mods, even if it would be a generic carcass for the diferent sizes, I think it would really add to the depth of the game.

DemonBigj781

Taxadermy is most likely out of the scope of this mod and would require a seperate mod

OldRedGrizzly

Ah It would seem that slipped through the cracks of testing and I must of skipped over adding forge option (right now the flint and copper do the same job but I will fix the copper today)

Can you add a way to make a custom taxadery as well like cut out sections of the model and put it on a mount. I remeber I had to kiss the deer on my 20th birthday while I worked as dishwasher at camp.

I don't see any way to make copper hooks? There's no clay mold and no forge option on the anvil. How do you make them?

Spaz1705

I do plan on adding some basic support for other animal mods (Might have to do 'generic' small, medium and large carcausses) BUT this will be in the future. This is due to amount of work it would take to do compatibility for each animal mod.

thats awesome! thanks for the swift reply! So far, im loving the mod. It really fills in a missing part of the game. Do you plan to add support for other modded animals in the future? Or would that be too much work?

Spaz1705

This will be fixed tonight when G3rste gets back from work but thanks for the heads up. It's because I set up the bears a diffrent way to the rest of the animals.

Just got a crash upon looking at a bears corpse. pastebin.com/m17gvLgc

DanaCraluminum

Retsof

Currantly it works with other animal mods installed but doesn't change or apply to those creatures. This is due to having to manipulate each animal indivually to make them hang.

It doesn't give extra yeild but rather vanilla values for the copper bucthery bench. This is due to me going to add new things that the creatures drop. But feedback on this is appciated.

Sorry if this double pinged you I had to write this three times.

Is it compatible with other animal mods?

Does this give you increased yeilds for properly butchered creatures (compared to vanilla), or just decreased yealds for improperly done ones?

I remember making a suggestion about a similar system on the VS Discord channel.  Hope to see some mod intragation soon.

I really love the spirit of this mod and what it does to the gameplay loop. The game certainly benefits from a more immersive animal processing system. I know it would probably be quite a massive lift, but it would be awesome to see some compatibility for mods like Feverstone Wilds and the Fauna of the Stone Age series - wishlist items!

Love the concept! I look forward to seeing this mod grow! :D