Really cool mod, seems to be working fine but it doesnt consume rope when I create a tool with ToolsRequireRope installed. It creates the tool fine and uses the stick and toolhead, just doesn't use up a rope.

Doesn't seem to work in 1.20 release candidate. No errors neither while loading in nor while trying to craft. Just nothing happens as like the mod isn't there. 

Pentasis Hey,Thanks for the feedback! Sure I will be adding the mod version in the zip file name from now on! 😉

If possible, would you mind following the recommendation to name your mods as <id>_<version>.zip  (e.g. ManualToolCrafting_1.3.0.zip)  It is easier to differentiate and maintain that way. Thank you, love the mods btw.

I have 1.3 installed now. I'll see what happens as soon as I mold a pickaxe head.

DoughBear Fixed! thanks!

Missing bone handle + stone head knives

Echoweaver Does it stopped happening in 1.2.9?

Huh. It happens every time I right-click a mold to retrieve a pickaxe head, at least. I think I have the most recent version. I'll check that.

ETA: Yeah, it was 1.2.8. I dunno what would be special about what I'm doing.

Flooper3 Hello! I did not knew this mod! Thanks for the heads up! I will look into it!

Echoweaver Hey! I couldn't replicate this sound bug. Are you doing it in a specific way?

Hi, just wanted to ask if you've ever seen/tried the Toolworks mod. I've very much enjoyed that mod's take on immersive tool crafting, and if you like it as well that'd be cool. Sadly it hasn't been updated much. Maybe it'll give you some inspiration!

OK, so I wasn't able to pursue the issue with the server because the owner removed several mods, including this one. If nobody else has noticed anything, I'm going to assume that it was my issue and not anything with your mod.

BUT, different thing, though not big -- I am getting the tool building sounds when I remove a tool head from a mold.

Echoweaver Haha no problem!
You can find log files inside %appdata%>VintageStoryData>Logs
Search for a txt file named server-main.

Where I do I find the logs?

It occurs to me that this may be all my problem. I assumed that if I was running the server's mods in the ModsByServer folder, my personal mods would not be loading. As I think about it, I'm not so sure. It might be that the game was trying to run two copies of the mod or some such nonsense.

I will look for logs.

Echoweaver what does logs say?

Hmm, so here's a weird thing that just happened to me. I joined a multiplayer server that also installed Manual Tools, and now the mod doesn't seem to work for me in either my single-player game or the multiplayer server. I haven't heard back from the other players as to whether it's working for them.

I did change the config file in single player to turn off the stick required in off-hand feature -- I found that too fiddly -- and the multiplayer server just used the default. I don't know how configs are handled for multiplayer servers and how they interact with whatever is installed for single player, so I couldn't do any more troubleshooting than that.

Swinley I'm wating to the update to come out, if it breaks the mod I will be fixing it haha.
Also thinking a way to make bows and other tools and modded tools that doesn't deppend only on a stick and the tool head, but its' going to take a while, right now I'm updating my mods on the other block game :b

this mod is so cool, any plans for 1.20?

Ouk Thanks for letting me know, I will be fixing it! Nice feedback!

Hi Salty, by making arrows with the mod they dont consume feathers, just sticks (and the heads ofcourse). 

@Echoweaver Hey thanks for the feedback! I noticed that too a while back! I'm going to look into it! Also thanks for the kind words! Hope you having fun with my mods! ^^

laserbees Check through your mods, one of them may have a patch for the stick that replaces other patches.

I already am not sure I can play without this mod. 

I did notice one issue that might or might not be fixable. Crafting a spear and throwing a spear both use right-click. That means that when I craft a spear with this mod, about 3/4 of the time I can't get my finger off the mouse button before I throw it. I could hypothesize code that prevents another action being taken with the right-click until the user stops and presses again, but I don't know VS modding, and there might well a reason some users want that behavior.

Is anyone else having trouble with sticks not going in the offhand slot? I've checked to make sure the patch is included and even direct edited the stick.json to have storageflags 257. I just can't add a single stick or a stack of sticks to my off hand. V1.19.8 Stable. The grunter from primitive survival works fine. Not sure what's causing the issue.

For now I just configured it not to require the offhand slot and it's working great. Just curious.

Love the mod and thanks for any tips.

Kwehlani Good feedback! I will look into it thanks!!

The new animation fits perfectly doesn't it? ^^

Additionally, saws do not appear to work!!

The new animation looks AWESOME!! Also I did get the sounds to work, however I'm not sure how the cooldown config works as I can't seem to get it to apply. If I rapidly try to make a tool, it will overlap the sound, and there's no delay before starting to assemble a new tool. Not sure if a bug or just side effect of coding. :)

Kwehlani No probs! Hope you can make it! ^^

SaltyWater No worries! I appreciate you looking into it for me! I'll just manually create the loop. :)

Kwehlani Sorry man, Searched up and couldn't find anything that to loops sounds dynamically. It would require it to add a flag to loop in a specific set timer. wich wouldn't be the case for every type of custom sound. You gonna have to do it manually.

Servius Yup, not implemented yet, I will be doing it in the next update.

Vinter_Nacht Thank you sir, it's an honor! 

jayu Ohh.. I know what you mean now! I will be implementing this in the next update! Thanks for the amazing feedback!

just saw that bone tools are not in the mod, does that mean that i have to use the old way to craft a bone tool? or, instead, bone tools cant be crafted?

Well done, sir! This is a clever approach to gridless tool-making.

Kwehlani Sure! I'll make a config so you can set for the audio to loop no probs! ^^

If you feel confortable doing it yourself you can use flixier wich is free to use, and you can easily make your custom sound loop as many times as you want. Then you'll save it as a mp3 and use a online converter to convert this saved mp3 file to ogg. Then in the mod config you can set the tool crafting time to match the time it takes for your custom looped sound to finish.

SaltyWater Ok no worries! Would it be possible to add in a config to loop or would that be too difficult? Are you also versed in how I could alter the .ogg file to create a looped version myself if that would be easier? Cheers! :)

Dawnveu Hey! Check to make sure you downloaded the 1.2.0 version, make sure it has come with the assets folder, and inside it the folder patches with the stick patch.
Delete mod caches and check to see if there's no duplicate .zip files inside your mods folder.

One problem with the new "stick required in off-hand" crafting mode with the new update is I can't seem to put sticks in the off-hand slot.

gndrneutralnoun Hi my man! There's already a config to set the crafting time haha

Yeah I'm aware some mods have different recipes for custom weapons, I'll see what can be done about that eventually. Thanks for the feedback! ^^

Hi! Could I request a configuration option for the time you need to hold the right mouse button? I love the immersion, but I also have ADHD and that makes waiting for several seconds while doing nothing but holding right click hard for me.

Also, I thought I'd let you know, the bush knives from the weapon pack alpha mod (1.19 port) use rope instead of sticks, and thus cannot be crafted with this mod.

Love your mods, thank you for sharing them!

MaldrakBK Hey!! Thanks man! Me too haha!

Yes, bone tools are not currently added.

First things first, loooove your mods.  Adds to my hope that we will eventually have the crafting grid retired from the game.

Was trying to make an axe with a bone handle for the increased durability and had the head in hand, bone in the hotbar, and nothing happened.  Did I miss something, or are bone handles not currently available?

SaltyWater I wasn't saying you should use patches, but that to be consistent with how the game handles things and ensure compatibility with mods like mine or XSkills, you should try to call OnCreatedByCrafting like grid recipes do when they generate the output, if you don't do that already:

public void GenerateOutputStack(ItemSlot[] inputSlots, ItemSlot outputSlot)
{
  ItemStack itemStack = outputSlot.Itemstack = this.Output.ResolvedItemstack.Clone();
  if (this.CopyAttributesFrom != null)
  {
    ItemStack stackForPatternCode = this.GetInputStackForPatternCode(this.CopyAttributesFrom, inputSlots);
    if (stackForPatternCode != null)
    {
      ITreeAttribute treeAttribute = stackForPatternCode.Attributes.Clone();
      treeAttribute.MergeTree(itemStack.Attributes);
      itemStack.Attributes = treeAttribute;
    }
  }
  outputSlot.Itemstack.Collectible.OnCreatedByCrafting(inputSlots, outputSlot, this);
}

@KleiMomentulas No problem, I probably can make the stick go off hand but this will probably require me to use paches (I hate working with json) But I'll see what I can do!

Kwehlani Yeah i've set in the code so sound will only play once and do not loop.

Echoweaver So the need to be in the hotbar is that I like to imagine that the tool bar is like "belt" or something like that player uses that has everything there "ready to go" and the inventory is like a back pack that player needs to take his time to open and search it etc..

jayu Nope, everything is custom code. I barely use patches on my mods at all.

I was wandering around and noticed, that people still add the possibility to take unintended items in the off hand, like gunpowder in the "firearms" mod. I assume, that the ability to take tool heads in the off hand won't break the immersion and somehow change the experience. That's all imho, I'm not insisting, just giving some thoughts to think

SaltyWater It works wonderfully!! I'm just trying to figure out how to get sounds to loop since I really like the reinforce sound file, but it only plays once when crafting!

On my first use of this mod, I forgot that the instructions said that the stick has to be in the hotbar. If the stick is in non-hotbar inventory, the mod runs the tool-constructing animation on a loop without producing anything for as long as I hold down right-mouse. 

This leads me to wonder -- is there any particular reason that the other tool components (usually sticks) need to be in the hotbar? I usually don't keep my sticks in my hotbar because my hotbar is filled with tools and food I'm actively using. It's not a huge deal, but it does contribute to quality of life. It doesn't seem to damage immersion much if I assume that pulling the stick out of my pack is part of the construction process.

Do you call OnCreatedByCrafting on the created tool? It would help, because I patch that method on one of my mods and will likely do so in other cases too (in this case, I set attributes on the tool), this could ensure compatibility without the need to maintain anything extra.

In my case, it really only matters when there are other mods installed that use attributes, so the incompatibility would not be very noticeable and could potentially screw players over without them noticing.

Kwehlani No probs, its done, ready and out! Thanks for the feedback! ^^

SaltyWater

Awesome! I'll give it a look whenever you have the chance to update and let you know if I encounter any other bugs!

Echoweaver Haha thanks! I used to make Minecraft mods but Vintage Story is my new obssession! 

Wow, you just keep cranking these immersion mods out. This is amazing. They enhance the game so much.

Kwehlani Yo!! Thanks man!! You guys are the best! ^^

There's no option to change the sound file right now, but its possible to add a config option for it in a update no problem!! I'll do it once I get back from work. Also thanks for the feedback regarding the sound bug! I'll look into it!!

KleiMomentulas Hey man! Thanks! I really appreciate it 😋

The off hand thing was intended from the beggining for this mod, as for manual dough I intended to make it with a water container in the off hand to make dough too. But since Vintage Story uses the off hand for contextual actions (torches etc) And is not every item that can go on it like java minecraft. I was worried enabling it to go off hand would be deviating too much from the intended gameplay vanilla mechanic and that it could possibly cause bugs too. So I opted for the item to bee in the tool bar instead.

I second Klei's sentiment! Your immersive mods have been such a joy for me to use!!

I had a question regarding the sound however: Are we able to customize this at all? I found it a bit strange to be making toolkit and metal clashing noises while crafting a flint knife.

I also found that the sounds play whenever I held something in my hand and tried to "use" it, ie. putting on a helmet or piece of armour.

You are the frontman of the immersive community. I already cannot imagine playing without your mods, Salty! But as a suggestion: maybe that would be more realistic, if you needed to hold one lf the ingredients in an off hand? Like you are literally putting an axe head, for example, onto a handle