Version 3.0.1 breaks the functionality of Pit Kilns, found to affect stackables like shingles and bricks (and some individual clay works). Dozen-odd reports through the Discord so far, so I thought it was best to bring it to attention here!

On 1.22.2 this mod is having some conflict with clay shingles. It's not allowing the placement of grass on the kiln if it's filled with shingles. Going on the config file and disabling drygrass fixes the issue, but i'm not sure what might be causing it.

Love the mod. You do a lot to make my game better <3 

Theres a crash to desktop when opening an items handbook page when this mod is loaded with flyingspaten's stonepiles mod

The crash happens when using the handbook hotkey while hovering over an item, or when opening an item's page from the handbook screen. 

I put a dupliucate bug report on flyingspaten's mods too in case its their mod causing the crash. 

Trying to re-add the removed piles to the mod config in 1.22 with AutoFill set to false and it just doesn't work. The config is foricbly set back to defaults no matter what I try.

Is there any way to get the piles that were removed in version 2.2.0 back when running version 3.0.1 in 1.22?

Im playing on 1.21.6 and would like to add log piles and others to my game

But not all the ones from the mod 

They look good but I think I like some better from the game itself

Is there a way to disable some selected by me? 

Very nice mod!

So, I was recently using this mod on 1.21.7 and had no problem placing dry grass, making a firepit, and placing grass in pit kilns. Update to 1.22.2, and now I can do the last two, but can't place dry grass. I understand it was because it was removed, but my question is, is there anyway to get it back through changing the config? And why did all 3 work in 1.21.7, but not the most recent version?

The new log piles look awesome Maltiez DanaCraluminum . More veriety to the block piles goes a long way, looking foward to more fun improvements you both add to the game.😁

I wasn't able to place grass in pit kilns and was also using the More Piles mod:

Config file at \AppData\Roaming\VintagestoryData\ModConfig\MorePilesConfig.json
Change Autofill to false
and under Dry Grass change Enabled to false

That fixed it for me. Thanks Ognar.

1.21.6 here: Anyone else can't fire Bricks because the game attemting to place a grass stack on top of the block takes priority over creating a pilt?

all of arrow piles show ? texture

Have an issue with Rope stacking sometimes desynced the entire server, had to do a restart almost everytime I placed rope down. I have not tried with only More Piles yet however.

I see this has been answered but after spending around 8 hours trying to fix the can't put grass into fire pits. It turns out it was this mod :(

Removing this mod has resolved the problem.

Can confirm what the other comments are saying. Disabling grass stacking and re-generate settings in the mod configs fix the charcoal pit issue

I can't disable grass stacking in the mod config; it re-enables itself when restarting the server.

edit: oh there is literally an option in the config file that tells it to re-generate the config every time it starts. disable this option first.

I can't put grass into a pit kiln to fire fire clay bricks specifically (I can fire everything else okay). Disabling this mod fixed it. 

I can't put grass into a pit kiln to fire fire clay bricks specifically (I can fire everything else okay). Disabling this mod fixed it. 

I can't put dry grass in the firing pit
Update:
Solved problem by disabling grass stacking in mod config

Having the same issue as abculatter_2, its reproducible with just this mod installed, so it has to be this one.

Another issue with firewood piles; I can't put dry grass on them to form a firepit for making charcoal

Still can't seem to knap anything. It just places the flint as a pile.

Having a bit of an issue that i'm assuming is with this mod, because it's the only one i have that would effect piles, where trying to stack firewood is setting Empty Piles on the ground that don't do anything and can't be removed.

is there a way to increase vanilla cattail pile's cattail amount?

Would you be willing to add support for the 'grass to ropes' mod dry grass bundles? They currently stop stacking at 1 block high and it would be nice to have a single ceiling-tall stack.

Thallassa i was having that problem a while ago in 1.20.12 without saltys scraping mod. idk if its a conflict or even relevent to this mod but i did also have this mod installed.

i cant make pies with this mod and place every item

came here to find out why i dont have bone piles anymoe :(

There might be an incompatibility with this mod and Salty's Manual: Scraping. When I place soaked hides down, it generally works and I can scrape them, but sometimes when I pick them up they appear to duplicate in the inventory or turn invisible. These leave blank "empty piles" blocks on the ground. Anything else placed on that block will turn invisible too, and duplicate when picked up. The "empty piles" can be targeted and broken. 

It could also be a game desync of some kind, but it seems to be consistently happening with soaked hides and pelts and not with other items. 

I'm also here because I was extremely confused if I was missing a mod because stone/sticks/so on wont stack anymore or are the less desireable vanilla variant so I'm relieved to see other people are having the same problem.

The solution is actually simple, the last update of this mod removed them because vanilla "added them" (But vanilla version is either bad or non functional.) So if you just uh, download the previous version of the mod and you're golden. o_o;;
Using the previous version of this mod appears to update existing piles to the better dana version and stops vanilla behavior for that item so that is your way to 'enable it again.' If you have modding abilities you can also cut/splice under MIT to patch it yourself going forward.

Tyrnn

Same here, but not sure it's a version problem, I could in 1.21.4 but not 1.21.5, but since your comment is from back in september I'm guessing this was not working for you in 1.21.4 ?

was aboutto ask what happened to stick and bone piles :D for a moment thought i had wrong mod lol

Please, please, bring back your sticks, rock and bone piles over the vanilla ones. Everyone loved them...

Thanks for the MIT lisence and the source for those trying to learn. 🙏🏻
I was also wondering 'what happened to the beautiful stick piles' did vanilla replace them with uglier versions of this mod?? Lol

Just encountered new vanilla piles... And it seems that they are made useless by design and this wont change... Will make my own mod that replaces vanilla piles with actually useful ones.

Id agree i do perfer your sticks bones and rock piles there just so uniform and convieniant i miss them :(

We need to return sticks from your mod!))

yea, I really wish we could use your stick and stones piles, the vanilla ones are good for clutter but not for tidy storage :(

I unsure where the issue is coming from as I cannot trace an error code.
I seem to not be able to store farming seeds on the ground anymore. With 1.21.0 they added it, and I've done it before, but now I can't.

DanaCraluminum

I love this, great work! Your stick pile looked it it was much larger than vanilla. Any chance we could get your version as an option?

*Your modded bone piles from the screenshot look better, too. Very neat and tidy with what looks like a much higher count.

Yes6Ft2 Delete mod config

Someone let me know if they figure out @ThePieIsALie 's problem as i've got the same issue along with causing users to crash when rendering the piles in

ThePieIsALie Try delete config

DanaCraluminum

I'm aware! And it's understandable you simply just removed the piles for items that now have vanilla piles. No complaints there <3

My issue is that my stick piles are invisible when I have this mod enabled. They place just fine, you just don't see them.
So that's why I brought it up.

Is it possible it's a minor bug? Or is there something I need to look at myself to try and fix it?

ThePieIsALie Stick piles are now vanilla and no longer in the mod

I wanna start by letting you know that I've really enjoyed this mod in 1.20 and I'm happy to see it's now working for 1.21!
Your work is much appreciated.

I did run into a small issue though. Stick piles are invisible for me! 
This might be caused by the fact that stick piles were officially added into 1.21? And the mod conflicts with this change? That's just guessing work on my end though.

It's not a huge issue as it doesn't appear to be breaking anything functionally. But I'm gonna avoid placing my sticks down for now in fear of losing them! XD
Hopefully this is just a small bug that you can patch?

If I'm allowed to make a suggestion: I'd like for the stick piles to function as they did in 1.20 with your mod. But maybe use the vanilla texture for stick piles that were added 1.21? If that's not too hard to do.

h9st Stone pile is vanilla, it is no longer included in a mod

How can I make it so when placing stones in a pile it uses more piles instead of the normal one because I can't stack stone piles ontop of each other

Samackel Bone piles are now vanilla

One of my favourite mods and indredible for decoration as well as storage.

Stacking bones doesnt appear to work currently and "Bone" does not appear in the config anywhere.

Popeye2077 What do you mean they aren't stacking? Try remove old config

Bones, sticks, grass, and stones arent stacking. The only thing stacking like pre 1.21 is the blocks

h9st Yes

Is this compatible with Place Every Item?

AngusTheBeast This is an issue in Stonepiles mod, not MorePiles. Also, vanilla has stone piles now

I get this error in server-main.log for V2.2.0 on VS 1.21.0

[Error] Patch 0 (target: morepiles:config/default-item-piles.json) in stonepiles:patches/MorepilesPatch.json failed because supplied path /stone-*/Enabled is invalid: The json path /stone-*/Enabled was not found. No such element 'stone-*' at the root path

I've upgraded from 2.1.12 (I think) in a world created on 1.20.12, where the mod was installed.

This mod should be part of the game rather than just a mod. I hope the developers use it in a future game update (but not logs, it's looking not realistic)

One of my favorite mods — thank you!

Thank you for updating to 1.21

@DanacCraluminum - I can feel that... I'm sorry and I hope you and yours are safe.

SirSkibidius It is very hard to find job during the war

"I'm unemployed and have never had a job." Is possibly the most accurate thing for a fair majority of people I imagine play this game.

Thanks for these. :D

How did you know? 😀

NukoSan you dont happen to use hud clock patch by any chance?

been stacking some stones (2048) noticed that quite often when I am stacking stones I get a game freeze and have to close the app, anyone elese had anything like this?

DanaCraluminum I don't want to disable the piles. I want to change the values. I already made a new cubelogpile_1 where it only stores 1 log, and applied it to the * for all cubic blocks, and all logs. I also already edited the ladder config to store 8 ladders 1:1. 

ryanberry You can disable any pile in config

Hey Dana :) I really enjoy this mod, except for a few things. I really dislike the 64 stacks of cubic blocks, and the fact that most item stacks are not 1:1 with the visual model (like ladders only having 8 in the stack visually, but holding 64). 

I'm working on a "More Piles Hardcore Patch" on my own to fix this, since I don't want to constantly pass around modified configs to my friends. But I'm VERY new to modding and get lost very easily. If you have the time and interest, I would love some help.

You can contact me on Discord: ryanberry

And if not, still thank you for the great mods!

DanaCraluminum Thanks!

Faeldray Fixed

The beam piles in 2.1.9 conflict with the ability to use CTRL for placing support beams (snapping to a 16x16 grid instead of a 4x4). When I try to use CTRL to place a beam, it says "Cannot place this block here"

this is great for people who don't yet have access to a saw to make boxes. also it looks cool.

Adude Oldest version is 1.0.0

is there a way to access older versions of the mod? i need the last version to join a server since it can't download it on it's own.

Mors Can't reproduce. All piles are visible for me

ryanberry Unfortunately that didn't fix it in 2.1.7, i don't use the features in the updates after 2.1.5 anyway so i'll keep running it. I am also having issue with the latest Extra Info and simple clock hud mods not showing up either, i go back one version and all is happy.

fuckingf ebic modd

Mors Try increasing your texture atlas size to 8192 or 16384. It's in clientsettings.json, and also there's a mod called "Bigger Texture Atlas" that does it without editing configs. This fixed all manners of invisible things for me.

DanaCraluminum Here is my mod list, if it helps. If there is another mod that is causing this, I will be happy to disable it to keep your awesome work in the game. At the moment i'm running 2.1.5 and it works perfectly so no rush 🙂

Mod list

Mors Can't reproduce

DanaCraluminum it happens to all the more piles items. including blocks, planks, and grass, and stuff. I went back to 2.1.5 and everything shows again. Text doesn't convey intention well, i'm not upset at all, just reporting so you know 🙂

Mors Probably some other mod changed stick textures. If so, then there is nothing i can do in this case

DanaCraluminum

I don't know how to add a screenshot here so i uploaded it to my google drive and the link is below 🙂

Screenshot

Mors Make screenshot

this mod is absolutely amazing, thank you so much for making it. I am having a bit of an issue, items are stacking on the ground ok but for some reason they are invisible. Has anyone else had this happen and if so, what did you do to fix it?

you legends, thanks for the mod support update <3

nvm. after deleting config file it seems to have been fixed

1.20.12

MRGOOSE What game version?

stick, bone, twine, logs, stones, none of these work

MRGOOSE What item/block are you trying to place in a pile?

how do i pile? im trying to make a pile with shift+ctrl+rightmouse but nothing is happening and they are placed normally on the ground

LuppyLupan Could you contact me in VS discord?

great mod love it, could you add support for floral zones series? (https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/user/2abe1c9265b6b2cfefae) as it is a shame the logs etc not working by default.

I would supply the changes myself if I knew how but that along with other stuff irl is why I am simply requesting instead.

once again: love the mod <3

w0ntonim0 Make sure to not hold Shift or Ctrl

DanaCraluminum Right click or left shift+right click but either way when I tried placing one down, it would pile them together rather than allowing me to pace it individually.

w0ntonim0 What key combination do you use to place log down for chopping?

This mod does not work along "Immersive Wood Chopping" mod and it conflicts making it unable to place down a wood log to chop. I had to disable this mod in order to continue chopping wood... Hopefully there is a compatibility fix soon but for the meantime, I'll be keeping this mod off...

JustaKobold There will be proper update soon

I keep seeing this come up as recently updated but there isnt any change to the files...

Thanks for the update. Thank you SO much!! I can't play without this mod. :D

on newest version many types of items turn invisible on latest stable :c

DanaCraluminum I'm not sure how to get the screenshot and get it uploaded but it thinks there's flax fibers on that block and whenever I place anything else on that spot, it turns into the texture of the flax fibers

DanaCraluminum for whatever reason, it isn't doing it anymore. Hindsight it was only happening on a block that I had previously placed flax string or whatever it's called. I'm a noob, idk things. Whatever I would place in that spot (candles and books were the only things I tried, I think) took on the texture of stacked flax twine or string... the base flax mat. If it happens again, I'll be sure to grab a ss.

Joe_Blo_le_Hobo Post screenshot here

I'm having an issue where everything I place tends to turn into a large rope looking entity in a sort of figure 8 shape. I also have the place every item mod installed. Maybe the two are clashing, but I'm not sure. I'll test tomorrow. Just wanted to mention it since I still had the tab open here.

@DanaCraluminum thankyou so much! everything works now 😍

PinkShot Katzvielle Evoken NiclAss Fixed line 388 crash

DanaCraluminum

we had a bug, one of our friends kept crashing instantly when he tried to log in :( It turned out his character was located inside a structure from the 'Better Ruins' mod.

We were trying to figure it out, and the author of Better Ruins actually told us to remove your mod specifically. So we did, and it worked! As soon as we removed MorePiles, the crashing stopped and he could log in again :)

It was a bit confusing, because if the issue is a vanilla one then there's not much that can be done of course :( Maybe it'll get patched soon though.

But anyway, thanks a lot for the effort you put into your mods, we enjoy them much! :D

PinkShot This is a bug in vanilla code, it existed even before this mod

Hey there :) We had a crash and Gemini helped me. Maybe this helps anyone how read this xD

Gemini


Title: [BUG CONFIRMED & REPRODUCIBLE] MorePiles causes crash at BlockGroundStorage.cs:line 388

Hello,

Following up on my previous report, we have found the definitive cause and a 100% reproducible method for this crash.

The culprit is the MorePiles mod.

The crash is not caused by a corrupted save file. It is an active code bug within MorePiles when it tries to handle specific loot piles generated by the Better Ruins mod.

How to Reproduce the Bug:

1. Install MorePiles and Better Ruins.
2. Locate a "Better Ruins" structure (in our case, it was the type with glass domes).
3. Approach the loot piles placed inside the ruin by the mod.
4. Result: The game client instantly crashes with a NullReferenceException at BlockGroundStorage.cs:line 388.
5. Confirmation: Close the game, deactivate only the MorePiles mod, and reload the world.
6. Result: You can now approach the exact same loot pile without any issues. The crash is completely gone.

This confirms that MorePiles has a compatibility issue or a bug in how it handles the specific BlockGroundStorage entities created by Better Ruins.

We were able to fully resolve the issue by disabling MorePiles. No save file editing was necessary.

Hope this helps you pinpoint the issue in your code!


Old Report:

Title: [BUG REPORT] Cross-Mod Crash: NullReferenceException at BlockGroundStorage.cs:line 388

The Issue: We are experiencing a persistent, game-breaking crash. Approaching a specific location (a "Better Ruins" structure in our case) causes an instant client-side crash for all players on the server. This creates a permanent "no-go zone" in the world.

The Cause & Evidence: The crash is always a NullReferenceException at Vintagestory.GameContent.BlockGroundStorage.GetPlacedBlockInteractionHelp on line 388.

This is not an isolated issue. We have found multiple, identical crash logs from different players with different mod lists. The pattern is always the same, pointing to that exact line. The issue seems to be triggered by mods that interact with ground piles, such as Better Ruins, More Piles, and DanaTweaks.

Our conclusion is that a mod is creating a corrupted BlockGroundStorage entity (a "poison" pile) in the world save. When the game tries to read this corrupted pile to display its interaction help, it crashes.

The Workaround: The only way we could fix our save was to manually delete the region file containing the corrupted pile from the save folder. This forced the game to regenerate the chunk, which removed the issue.

We hope this information helps in tracking down the interaction that leads to this block corruption.

Reference Crash Log (crashing with vanilla code after "DanaTweaks" was removed):

Running on 64 bit Windows 10.0.26100.0 with 16293 MB RAM
Game Version: v1.20.12 (Stable)
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.BlockGroundStorage.GetPlacedBlockInteractionHelp(IWorldAccessor world, BlockSelection selection, IPlayer forPlayer) in VSSurvivalMod\Block\BlockGroundStorage.cs:line 388
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.HudElementInteractionHelp.getWorldInteractions() in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\Huds\HudElementInteractionHelp.cs:line 292
   ...

got a crash

Running on 64 bit Windows 10.0.19045.0 with 16326 MB RAM
Game Version: v1.20.10 (Stable)
6/10/2025 5:30:34 AM: Critical error occurred
Loaded Mods: aculinaryartillery@1.2.5, chiseltools@1.14.18, fieldsandplateaus@1.0.8, floralzonescosmopolitanregion@1.0.4, bovinae@0.2.4, cervinae@0.1.6, elephantidae@1.0.13, felinae@0.2.10, thylacinidae@0.1.3, viverridae@1.0.4, millwright@1.2.3, moreicons@1.1.0, plainsandvalleys@1.0.11, prettyLittleThings@2.4.2, primitivesurvival@3.7.7, scrollrackable@1.3.2, SmokingChimneys@1.3.0, usefultraders@2.2.0, game@1.20.10, vsimgui@1.1.8, agingbarrels@1.2.4, bedspawnv2@1.4.0, betterruins@0.4.12, blobcatmod@0.1.1, butchering@1.8.2, butterflycases@1.0.2, carryon@1.8.1, commonlib@2.6.1, configlib@1.5.3, coreofarts@0.2.3, expandedfoods@1.7.4, foodshelves@2.1.2, fromgoldencombs@1.8.12, gourmand@1.7.0, hudclockpatch@1.0.1, huntingknife@1.0.7, hydrateordiedrate@2.1.1, infinitumpickupmod@1.2.1, morepiles@2.1.4, multitools@1.0.1, ndlvillagers@1.4.0, ndlwoodentorchholder@1.4.3, rustboundmagic@2.5.4, scarecrow@1.6.9, th3dungeon@0.4.2, toolsmith@1.1.11, creative@1.20.10, survival@1.20.10, wildfarmingrevival@1.3.6, artofcooking@0.2.4, artofgrowing@1.1.2, astriaporta@0.0.4, butcheringexpandedcompatibility@1.0.0, captureanimals@2.8.1, em@3.2.2, playercorpse@1.11.1, rustboundmagiceasy@0.1.0, shearlib@1.1.2, aogbreedingaddon@1.1.0, bricklayers@3.0.2, tailorsdelight@1.9.7, wool@1.6.3, dressmakers@1.6.0
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Vintagestory.GameContent.BlockGroundStorage.GetPlacedBlockInteractionHelp(IWorldAccessor world, BlockSelection selection, IPlayer forPlayer) in VSSurvivalMod\Block\BlockGroundStorage.cs:line 388
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.HudElementInteractionHelp.getWorldInteractions() in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\Huds\HudElementInteractionHelp.cs:line 292
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.HudElementInteractionHelp.ComposeBlockWorldInteractionHelp() in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\Huds\HudElementInteractionHelp.cs:line 280
at Vintagestory.Common.GameTickListener.OnTriggered(Int64 ellapsedMilliseconds) in VintagestoryLib\Common\Model\GameTickListener.cs:line 31
at Vintagestory.Common.EventManager.TriggerGameTick(Int64 ellapsedMilliseconds, IWorldAccessor world) in VintagestoryLib\Common\EventManager.cs:line 170
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.MainRenderLoop(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 825
at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToPrimary(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 161
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 695
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 670
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 88
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 334
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 130
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

It seems like redwood quater logs cant be placed in piles? 

Has anybody has performance issues with this mod? On my world I play and open to friends, they've had issues when running out front of our house. What with the amount of piles and piles of dirt and such we have outside, I thought it might be this mod.

unsure what i updated or fixed, maybe it was today's update but its good now just to let you know!

DanaCraluminum on the latest version of the mod and on 1.20.10 on my server

I do have a lot of mods so there is possibility I have something conflicting. Just wanted to post and make sure it was on my end for cross compatibility and not the mod

crumps What mod version?

Hey I'm unsure and am gonna test more, but for me there's something wrong with charcoal and not being able to stack it normally into cubes. It seems with this mod it only lays down as 4 on the ground and doesn't turn into the classic cube. going to test it a bit and let you know more

Hi DanaCraluminum 

it seams that ether this mod or place every item is incompatible with carry on when these mods are activated, I can't place down crates anymore. 

Zeekakkeloebes You need to disable AutoFill in config

I tried to disable the stacking behaviour of sticks (because I think it caused weird behaviour when combined with In-world Thatching? could be something else too) but whenever I change the config "stick": { "Enabled": true, to false, it automatically reverts back to 'true' on a server restart. Other configs don't do this which leads me to believe it's specific to this mod. Do you know what could be causing this, or how I could fix it?

bleddy What game version? Does it happen without xandus inventory tweaks mod?

Crash to desktop when using this mod and attempting to place a pile of dry grass on the ground.

Involved Harmony IDs: craluminum2413.morepiles, XInvTweakPatch
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Vintagestory.GameContent.ItemDryGrass.OnHeldInteractStart_Patch1(ItemDryGrass this, ItemSlot itemslot, EntityAgent byEntity, BlockSelection blockSel, EntitySelection entitySel, Boolean firstEvent, EnumHandHandling& handHandling)
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.TryBeginUseActiveSlotItem(BlockSelection blockSel, EntitySelection entitySel, EnumHandInteract useType, EnumHandHandling& handling) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 862
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.HandleMouseInteractionsBlockSelected_Patch1(SystemMouseInWorldInteractions this, Single dt)
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.OnFinalizeFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 85
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ClientEventManager.cs:line 188
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 992
at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 242
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 695
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 670
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 88
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 334
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 130
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

this was working on my 1.20.7 server and then all of a sudden stopped for everyone playing, piles are invisible and my bug net that is sitting on the ground is half invisible. is there a way to fix this?

DanaCraluminum It may be an issue with the vanilla game engine, but the piles of items that cause game crashes are 100% exclusively piles of items that can only be piled up when using this mod; they do not pile in vanilla without the mod installed, and do not cause this crash in vanilla.

I was playing a multiplayer game today (April 10, 2025) where all 5 players in the server crashed as soon as they touched the block a pile of Bones was located on. None of us could rejoin the game, even after restarting the server, it would crash us instantly with the same UI draw call error previously mentioned in the comments. Removing the More Piles mod instantly solved the issue and we were able to continue playing without problem.

The alternative solution is to disable the UI tooltips for block interaction (Ctrl + B & Ctrl + N), but this is only temporary.

Evoken This is vanilla bug, there is nothing I can do

My game keeps crashing when i set piles of items (sticks, dirt, bones) on the ground. The crashes occur when i go away enough to not render the piles and when i try to come closer so i get them in my view distance i get crash:

"System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. at Vintagestory.GameContent.BlockGroundStorage.GetPlacedBlockInteractionHelp(IWorldAccessor world, BlockSelection selection, IPlayer forPlayer) in VSSurvivalMod\Block\BlockGroundStorage.cs:line 388"

Ofcourse i tried it multiple times, for now i had to deactivate this awesome mod and destroy the invisible piles to get my items back :(

Nexi_Wolf Shift + Ctrl + Right-click

how do i place pile when i have place every item installed. it places the items like stones in a 2 by 2 like with that mod and no more

DarkThoughts Ghost items is ancient bug that exists in vanilla for more than 5 years already

Hm okay, I think the issue I have is with the loot spawns from the Primitive Survival furrows. Just had some sticks from that and it turned into my bowl of food, which would play the eating animation but not actually eat. Throwing it on the ground made it vanish. I guess trying to make a pile out of those ghost items ends up making an empty one.

noodlepfp It is caused by bug in vanilla code. I contacted one of VS team members recently about this exact issue, so it may get fixed very soon in next vanilla updates.

There is nothing I can do

Adding this mod to an existing save, I had a bone already placed on the floor. I went to pick it up after loading this mod, and my game crashed. 

Here is the crash log : https://pastebin.com/WZXsUPvM

I'm also encountering this "invisible pile" issue. Specifically with fired refactory bricks. The brick pile is visible when not fired, but after firing, they go invisible. I am still able to pick them up, but its weird.

DarkThoughts Can't reproduce

I often get empty piles when trying to place down dry grass which I then have to "break" by hand.

Edit: Picked up more grass and the old one vanished. So it causes ghost items and I guess eats the real ones.

@DanaCraluminum

All good I love the mod I just thought I'd post it in case others ran into the same issue. Like you said in the DanaTweaks comments disabling tooltips stops the crash.

I'm running into the same error as AphoticAri did in the danatweaks comments where some piles placed the vanilla way turn invisible and can cause a crash when More Piles is installed and tooltips is on. However the piles I had an issue with are in new chucks with BetterRuins and More Piles installed, some of the ruins generate with these invisible vanilla piles that can crash the game. Exploring these certain ruins has become a bit of a minefield of potential crashes. Disabling More Piles reveals these vanilla piles (which in my case were sticks) and no crash occurs when looked at with tooltips. Disabling tooltips prevents the crashes but this does mean that there is seems to be minor incompatability between More Piles and Better Ruins at the moment. 

Re: clay piles

I was confusing this with other,. now outdated pile mods that piled clay like coal. I think that would be neat to be incorporated into this mod, but I think an easier way to do it would just be to have a recipe to reverse clay bricks back into clay. So you could stockpile clay into raw bricks, and then recycle the bricks as needed.

Thanks mate ! 

Can confirm all good here now - thanks!

I'm also running into the bone problem. I sorted out the FixPlacement key, as well as setting CtrlKey to true - this ends up returning a "placefailure-" message when attempting to place via ctrl+shift right click. Knapping via shift right click still works though.

Venusgate

How it should stack?

Electro1

Disable AutoFill in config

Does this still not stack red clay?

I'm also having issues with Butchering's bone fletching and i attempted at adding the FixPlacement property and changing the CtrlKey from false to true, both changes get reverted to default for some odd reason.

Cael_Dranwylr Shift Ctrl Right-click

DanaCraluminum no what does it do ? 

How do you make a dry grass pile? I keep starting construction of a firepit.

Edit: Never mind. I thought I had deleted the mod config before loading the game, I deleted the wrong one...the piles work now.

oneil Did you add FixPlacement property for bones?

yea im using butchering too and cant pile bones. its normal : butchering makes u able to knap bones for pickaxe, needle and arrow : unfortunatly it overides the more piles functionnality :( 

DarkThoughts I don't know what is causing it

Regarding the bone knapping from Butchering... Is it possible to still have bone piles by ctrl+shift+right clicking, without affecting the knapping with shift+rightclick? At the moment it seems impossible to store bones on the ground.

WeatherAlchemy I compiled it for 1.20 and thought it would also work on 1.19

Is this supposed to report that it calls for version 1.19.0? It seems to be doing so, at least on my end.

Thanks for the update

Thanks for the update. Good to see this revived.

DecaByte Conctact me in discord

Don't know if you take requests or if it would fit this mod, but I would love for dry grass to be stackable in a hay-stack. There are mods that do this (like 'Art of Growing') but they come with a lot of other stuff I don't want.

How do I get items to stack? I may have another mod interfering with it or i may be just not doing it right, but i can't get a stack started.

Junrall It is stackable in vanilla

Is charcoal not stackable? Or is that skipped because its a "pileable" item? If I wanted to stack charcoal, could I add it to the config?

-not a request or bug report, just mostly curious.

GO STICK PILES!

... and other piles too. :D

YES!!!!⚡

Hell yeah

Adnyeus I revived the mod

DanaCraluminum

Thank you for reviving this!

After two years away from the game, your mods were the very first I wanted to install—this one most of all.

I can’t thank you enough for bringing it back to life. It’s modders like you who keep Vintage Story fresh and exciting, and I honestly wish the developers did more to recognize that. Not to discredit what the developers do, but you’re the ones keeping the game alive and evolving, and you deserve more appreciation beyond just the modding community.

Anyway, I just wanted to say a huge thank you! Your work doesn’t go unnoticed, and it’s truly appreciated.

-June

Hatrune_Cubic I see empty message

Would love to see someone obtain permission to pick this up and run with it. Or at least patch it to run another round or two.

This was one of those mods that made sense and was always included in my list of greats!

Thanks for the mods. Take care and let's hope we see you again one day :)

 No worries. Thanks for all the mods :) 

I added explaination to description about why I abandoned the mod

StepMurp No, I abandoned this mod

Is there a chance this will be updated for 1.20?

This mod brought one of the best graphic impressions and fun of the VS.

Too bad it's life was as short as a meteor flash.

I miss this mod desperately

@DanaCralumium I know, thats why you prove my words.

Divocak I'm not obliged to update my mods, I already have 100 of them

The reason why i never play with mods again ever, mod works for short time and later developer abandon mods. it happend with like 4 other more mods...

later you can't stop play with mods and it is pain.

Nonamomo Yes

Would you be alright with someone else continuing this mod?

I got bored of developing this mod and More Piles code makes me depressed, I'm too lazy to update this so I abandon it

Jonathonsky Okay

Hello DanaCraluminum

I just wanted to see if I could use your stone pile shape for my own mod. I havent posted the mod yet until I finish getting your permission first and finish some details. The mod's name will be CandleStory. Let me know if I can. I'd be really speeding things up for me. Thank you.

Stroam Tyron will do it 😡

Messy version of a bone pile please.

The ability to stack sticks seems to be broken in v1.19.8. I tested this by creating a creative world with only this mod installed. 

Wasn't sure if you knew. I realise the war is a bit distracting, screw Russia.

@DanaCraluminum Thank you for the response. The closest option I can find in the config is StackingCapacity but that doesn't change how the stacks are rendered. They still show 64 blocks.

Rudwark There is config for this

Could you change the rendering of cubic and log piles to show 8 blocks (without changing the default stack size)?

Zevon Someday

Can you add nugget and flint piles? 

Novantis  Shift + Ctrl + Right-click

I can't seem to place stone piles (just single stone on ground)? What combination of keys allows this?

Also flax on ground is visually bugged (invisible). Not using place every item if that's relevant.

I made a mod that prevents you from placing sticks and bones, which lets their piles work. For anyone who wants it, here's a link.

CuroAmarSalus

I can't seem to get this fork to work, still placing sticks like normal.

Is it compatible with 1.19.3 DanaCraluminum?

On one hand, i understand it is your mod and you have final say..... that being said, i feel like removing stackable sticks and bones from your mod because vanilla added in the ability to place 4 tiny sticks in a hole is absolute the wrong decision. stacks of sticks are easier to use then having 4 tiny sticks take up an entire block space. i say give the best of both worlds and have version with and one without the sticks. 

DanaCraluminum I run six servers- universally the players in each all rely on this mod for stacking sticks and bones. While you may no longer support it (this is your mod, that is your choice, it is valid, and I won't criticize you for it), this mod is specifically used for stacking sticks, bones, twine, and flax. I don't host 1.19.x servers due to server crashes and bugs, but once the servers becomes stable we'll have to use my fork for it in the long run.

It seems this mod causes some interactivity issues in 1.19.x variants. If there's anything I can do to assist with debugging, let me know.

CuroAmarSalus This is not a fix, it doesn't worth updating in such way

1.19.x compatible fork of this mod that has Sticks + Bones added back in (Pit Kilns are broken): github.com/CuroSalus/MorePilesWithSticks/tree/master

DanaCraluminum

Yeah when not using the More Piles mod I am able to Bone Knap (just like stone knapping).

Hydromancerx Does it happen without More Piles installed?

So the Butchering mod uses LShift + RMouse for Bone Knapping while placing bones in this also uses it. Could you change it to LCtrl + LShift +RMouse by defaul please. Thanks in advance!

Really really sad you stopped with the Sticks. This saved a lot of space in my chests and looked very good. I would love if you bring back the stack of sticks. Please consider doing it. I was really loveing it.

IanDig I don't have any plans to keep piles for already ground storable items in vanilla. But I totally would expand block piles

I would still prefer this mod over the new vanilla ability to only place 4 per block

SecretFoxfire I will remove stick and bone piles in the next update, because main goal of the mod was to end up in vanilla, even if you can store only 4 things on ground

1.19-rc6 seems to have broken part of this mod. Previously we had big stacks of sticks and bones on my server, but when we logged in after updating from rc5 to rc6, suddenly they were just single placed sticks/bones, no more piles. We can no longer place them in piles. I poked at a vanilla copy of rc6 and it looks like we can now place sticks and bones on the ground as part of the vanilla game, and presumably this is overriding the piles. Not sure if there's any way you can fix that. I much prefer being able to stack them - placing them takes up so much space! (Thanks for the great mods by the way. I think we really should be able to place and pile everything in the game. It's perfectly realistic, after all!)

SpearAndFang

I believe Aksyl is referring to the Butchery mod, as it adds bone "knapping" (or "carving" as the author puts it) to craft rudimentary pickaxes and bone arrows.

Aksyl

For what it's worth, More Piles has a config file you can edit to disable the pile placement for bone, which should allow it to be placed for knapping/carving again. :) Hope it helps!

Cheers everyone!!

Aksyl
Primitive Survival does NOT allow knapping with bone.  You might be talking about Ancient Tools or Survival Expanded, idk.

I've noticed an issue between this and primitive survival (I have yet to diagnose another mod having some effect in the combo)

Primitive Survival allows knapping with bone, and this should allow stacking, but I think they both are cancelling the other's actions out.

Now, I don't need to knap bone in most of my games, so really I'm only being prevented from stacking bone, but still. I don't see anyone else experiencing this issue, however which may indicate another culprit.

Maltiez Someday

Flint piles?

ladders place invisible, whether used with vanilla ladders, or with vanilla variants installed. Can no see ladder piles, so I lost 'em after leaving a pitfall. :/ Ah well.

Edit: Went into testing. Chute sections also invisible. Using the 1.18 verion.

SuperTeeJ The latest version requires 1.19

Was loving this mod before. Downloaded the new version and now getting an issue with the mod saying "Unable to resolve mod dependencies." but looking here I'm not seeing any other mod dependencies. Please let me know since I really love this mod to add extra decor to my markets and houses

Where have you been all that time! Thanks for updating this mod!

DumbLance What game version and mod version?

Is there a new dependant file? everytime i try to use the mod it crashes..

Sublime mod; should be integrated into vanilla

Hi Dana! This is a lovely mod. Cloth is flying with the default pile size of 32, even though it's configurable by anyone you might want to change it to 48 in the default config file of the mod. ;) See pictures https://imgur.com/a/lmWCg5J

Moon_Dew No idea

Is this compatible with FlyingSpaten's Stonepiles?

the standard Wooden Ladders made out of sticks?

NukoSan What ladders?

Not sure if it's just me but ladders do stack up but become invisible when stacked up... anyone getting this? maybe a missing model?

Redacted123 Someday

would it be possible to make grain pileable? for silos and such

This mod is the greatest. Personally, i think the game should have chests and baskets set to 1 slot by default. 

What I would love to see is more piles for all the varieties of nuggets(copper, bismuth, etc.) and chunks(coal, lignite,borax, etc.) that cant be piled right now.

Wonderful mod BTW, I'm having visual glitches with piles of Twine not rendering.

EDIT: I have tried different Stacking capacities to these two and they are 100% fixed

"flaxfibers": {
"Enabled": true,
"UpSolid": false,
"BulkTransferQuantity": 8,
"TransferQuantity": 1,
"StackingCapacity": 144     <---------------- previous amount left a gap
},
"flaxtwine": {
"Enabled": true,
"UpSolid": false,
"BulkTransferQuantity": 8,
"TransferQuantity": 1,
"StackingCapacity": 24       <---------------- rendering of twine being placed is now rendering with this.

Place Every Item can't stack like piles can, though. I want to stack my quartz like stones and sticks and such.

QuakingDoom use Place Every Item to place them

Could you please add Quartz chunks as a pileable? I have SOOOO much of it

JonR It is currently intended to make some blocks pileable

Unfortunately, I think I've found a new bug now. After placing something down into a pile, now I'm unable to add to that pile with just the Shift + Rightclick. If you use Ctrl + Shift + Rightclick though it works fine.

Yeah, thanks for the incredibly quick fix! That's wonderful!

Thanks for the quck fix. You rock!

QuakingDoom It is complicated, but mostly because "this block should be placed into ground storage" worked too perfect

will test, thank you. Out of curiositiy, what caused it?

JonR  QuakingDoom  Lavi  fixed

Hey! I just wanted to report that it seems after downloading this and starting a new world, I am unable to knap granite stones - and I'm not sure if it's exclusive to just Granite. I can knap Flint fine, though, but Granite if I scoop up a bunch of rocks, I find I am unable to actually place one down again to knap it. Instead it just adds it to a pile instead, and builds that up. Thanks for your work on this though!

God i love this mod. Thank you so much

I was waiting for log piles to grand storage! Thanks!

ArtiKs Korzhyk Added log and rope piles

Yes

Could you consider adding the ability to place and stack ropes? 

This either doesn't work well with 1.18 (Rc-6 currently), or there's a few visual glitches with the pack that I'd like to fix.

The stacking doesn't really work the same way that vanilla stacking of logs does. For example, if I stack cloth with this mod, it'll visually stack 12 consecutive cloths, but the count will continue to be 12. When you stack logs in-game, the stack visually increments when you add 2 logs, so in total you'll visually have 16 logs only when you have 32 logs in the stack. Changing the ModConfig also doesn't help. If I change stack count to 2 for example it simply adds 2 cloths and will reach the max visual stack at 12 still. Changing the Stack Size also has some glitchy behavior. I'm on the VS discord if you want me to try to update this for you: Axel#8407

Also, I can't seem to be able to stack blocks such as fences, ladders, gates, etc.

Hopefully this mod is easier to update than Place Every Item, because here are only a few of piles, while that mod has hundreds of items

cool. It is good.

Korzhyk I'll think about adding it as soon as I get back to this mod

Hei. What about piles for logs?

I can remove pile of paintings since it is not as useful as I thought

I have just tested it on 1.17.0-rc.7 and only some piles don't work (wooden fence pile as example), I will mark it as working in 1.17

Kirona

I won't add nugget piles.

To prevent blocks from placing, you need to stay on any block and then place block under yourself, to place sign pile for example

Craluminum Any chance at piles for nuggets?

EDIT: Also, what does "prevent block placing" mean? How do I do this so I can stack these items?

Does anyone have any ideas what other piles to add?

Would you be insulted if I stuck to v1.04? Some of the additions seem a bit extraneous.

Just coming by to say I love this mod and a minor question.

Will I need a updated version of IWPEI for the latest version of this mod or will it be fine :)

Lol edit I see you did not add any new items for the latest update. 

So yes I was just coming to say great mod! Can't wait to see what other piles you make. :D