An idea for duplicate spell ciphers could be that feeding the scroll back into the generator returns the essence, still requiring the other materials to make more blank ciphers to try again or perhaps just throwing the scroll into the spellforge could re-write it at a lesser cost?

RowerTactX

To make it (without really removing the fun of discovery) check your book for rituals of destruction. If you just want the answer, I censored it below

i noticed that rustbound magic, when used with combat overhaul, the working classes, and millwrite, it places the rust mage in the center of the class selection, and sets all the following class traits of the following classes to be off by one. (The farmer has lumberjack traits, becaseu the Rust Mage option places the Lumberjack one selection past where it should properly be.) does anyone know a fix? or could point me in the right direction on fixing it myself? thanks!

Edit:

The Working Classes Combat Overhaul Rustbound Magic Compatibility

True North, Rapid Fire, True North, Intellect I, Rapid Fire, Intellect I

... surely there has to be a better way to convince it to give me Fire spells, instead of all these other duplicates.  Building more Light essence gens just to be able to recycle...

Hello,

How do i get the Eldrithum Ore? (Or how it is named, i forgot)

Hi there, I was wondering how to increase the spawn rate of the ravagers for a server?

Rakoona The best way to get fibers is growing Riftblooms. Guaranteed harvest when you grow them with seeds.

Hey Vies! 

I'm currently doing a youtube series on the Rustbound Magic mod, and I have to say, I love it so far! 

I'm getting most of what you've implemented in this mod so far, but is there a way to farm shifting fibers other than killing sentinels and drones? 

Keep up the good work! Slowly raising my Mana to 50 to get to level 2 mage at this stage! 

Rakoona

Am I missing something with the Spellforge? Upon trying to create tier 3 spells, every time I meditate on it it just fails and hurts me. I've tried nearly a dozen times by now, using a Prismatic Spell Cipher.

You have to hit them with transmute and mine them from rifts, there is no other way to get them. this was the info i wanted to know thanks RazVonCoon for the info

Vies Any chance we can have a fix for scrolls crashing the game? This is an otherwise awesome mod.

@RazVonCoon @BeefGrease

Thanks both of you, that did help. Now it's just getting more rust crystals, and I can't get Sea water anywhere, so... exploiting rifts with stones in hopes of getting more.

How does one get familiars/pets? I've gotten drifters from random drops, but nothing else, and I havent found an in game tooltip about it anywhere.

BeefGrease
The apprentice hat is just a headband, you can use a transmog stone to change the way it looks between 2 other outfits.
I have not tried changing any rocks underground, I assume however that the anchor is just doing the same thing that a normal flower or rock would do except you can mass produce them instead of gathering.

jamescook
You have to hit them with transmute and mine them from rifts, there is no other way to get them. It would have been nice if the mod added in loot to chests/vessels but I have never come across any and it only seems to be from the pylons, so if you want research transmute them, but know that after you research them, they are just decorations and can not be broken back down for materials.

jamescook

You will find them floating occasionally in the rifts. Use transmutation magic to retrieve them instead of breaking them with the pick.

question is there any other way to get the inert anchient markers/pylons?

Does anyone else have a problem with the apprentice hats default model missing all of the top of it? xD theyre all headbands for me

RazVonCoon I feel that need for the huge farm tho! I got the opposite problem tho, I was ending up with too many stacks of fibers until i realized they can be used for linen pulp haha. I'm only in SP and mines around the same size xD oh shoot, do you know if using regular stones underground gets you bigger crystals? cuz if so i completely wasted my precious dust on anchors lol

BeefGrease

Honestly no, the riftbloom rust anchors are only really viable if you have NO flower types in the area you are in (Or you dont like the fact that unstable riftblooms only have a 20% drop chance for a seed). We built in a plains area that has a near unlimited ammount of flowers so its no problem for us, if your operation is underground though, it MAY be viable for you to use especially if you have a large ammount of dust and stones taking up inventory. I know shifting fibers tend to be a issue for us and I had to expand my farm to around 64 riftbloom to keep up with demand.

RazVonCoon Thanks! just got my first spell that isn't resistance, and realized that you indeed get WAY more exp with staff casting haha, and gosh I'm so not excited to get duplicates Dx when i did my first spellforging, i got like 3 resistances in a row, then finally a damage spell xD along with about 3 or 4 failures which were not fun, but also not the worst since they only seemed to spawn a bunch of bowtorn, and my wizard tower is just small enough that they only run from me in there. Also another question since you seem to be a pretty proficient mage lol, have you messed with the rift anchors at all? the crystal ones seem worth it, since they can get you bigger crystals if you open a rift underground, but are the riftbloom ones worth?

Katilist check out the ritual list for getting primordial frags, destruction is about to become your best friend when it comes to getting eldrathium bits xD

Katilist
I was stuck at the same stage a while back, you can make most everything for the resonator with rituals including the primordial fragments

BeefGrease
By what I can tell the best way to do it is make a staff and a bunch of repair packs and just sit in a corner casting transmute 1000x times to hit lv50. The mod maker seems to have wanted to slow progression down but in doing so made it so that just casting the same spell over and over and over again just to waste materials is the only way to progress. Hitting lv3 Mage is even worse. I can tell More Mana used equals more experience. My advise, if you are the host of the server, go into the Json files and alter them because its NOT FUN trying to get the EXP needed since research does not count for some reason especially when each and every spell has a cast time, they are not viable for combat. The Dark essense generator ONLY works at night and only pulls a single mob in at a time. You need to make the runestones in order to make it more productive. The process will still be slow however and if you are using the energy to make spell ciphers you will be very disappointed with the fact that you will get duplicates constantly as well as FAIL to make spells constantly.

BlackRockShooter
Right now it seems that all scrolls will crash the user, however scrolls that have a Area of effect that will help your allies still gives them the effect, just not you.

GThane
Yes. Yes it is... We had the same thing happen when unlocking our magic, however it doesnt effect temporal storms to my knowledge just the initial magic unlocking.

I'm stuck on progression until I can get 13 more primordial fragments. Ravegers rarely spawn, gone hours without a single raveger (plenty of drones and sentries though). 

Is there not any other way to get the required amount of materials to make the resonator wand?

Just asking in case anyone knows, is there anything i can do besides spam casting with my wands to get magic exp faster? I love the research things allowing you to up mana faster, but I'm just more worried about ascending to a higher tier mage as soon as I'm able to. Wondering if like staff casting gives more exp or anything like that, cuz i wanna play it at the intended configs. Also, thank you for this amazing mod Vies! this new update is really awesome as well, I love the addition of wands for an easier start into damaging spells! OH! almost forgot, is the dark essence generator supposed to work with the new mobs? (bowtorn and shiver) I'm sitting through my first storm since getting it up and running, and it doesn't seem to be pulling the shiver i have chilling outside my safety box lol

hey so i have a server that i play with freinds and if anyone tries to use any spellscroll the server kicks you, the spell is still cast but the one casting the spell with the scroll is thrown from the server.

is there any mod or server config that i need to change?

I downloaded the newest version today, which will be my first time using it. I'm playing with 2 friends and when there was a temporal storm it spawned literally 20 bowtorn. When we unlocked mana and dropped our stability down, it spawned an ungodly amount of bowtorn as well. Is this a feature? It's kinda an absurd amount of enemies, all corrupt tier too.

blueblynd Rustblooms (the non unstable kind) are GUARANTEED to drop a fiber and rusty dust, and have a ~90% chance of dropping another seed. For rust crystals, I've gotten mine almost entirely from enemies - they are extremely common from the elementals. Barring that, there are still a few ways to craft them. A stack of Rusty Dust + 50 units of seawater nets you 8 rust crystals.

Barring that, literally any small stone will transform to unstable rust crystal when put down in front of a rift, so you can flex that 20% chance.

@Henon you are a g brother! Much love!

Flako

Class doesnt matter. Its probably because you havent unlocked magic yet. You need to lower your temporal stability to 0 or close to it(i recommend standing in a rift). Afterwards shift right click a rustdust to unlock magic.

This mod isn't exactly clear on what you need to do at times.

Hello I am wanting to get inot this mod but I like playing as hunter class. Is there any way for me to do both play styles? Everything I touch says, " This is beyond your comprehension" and I am unable to prgresson with this mod. Is there a comand I can use that will allow me as a hunter to use magic?

Kagahami i appreciate the advice, thank you! the last time i played this mod i could've sworn i remembered unstable riftbloom dropping rusty dust and shifting fibers, not just seeds, but either that's changed between then and now or my memory is faulty. (very possible.) i went ahead and checked the loot tables for unstable rust crystals as well since i was also experiencing no item drops but apparently they also just have a "chance" to drop things — presumably also 20%.

can't say i'm the biggest fan of the change, but i assume this is probably meant to incentivise farming, so i'll do my best to progress further on my own. thanks again.

Vies Is it possible to get an indicator, either visually or on the essence generator, when we successfully upgrade an essence generator with Runestones? I am unsure if the 4 runestones I placed was all I needed.

Also, can I say that although I like the idea of resist spells, having a resist spell for EVERY element is bloated. Split resists into Light, Neutral, and Dark instead. Researching your first grimoire and getting a resist spell SUCKS.

Finally, a Magic Shield spell of some sort to make up for the abysmal armor stats on mages would be nice. Maybe 20/30/40% extra reduction that lasts a short while (so if you're caught off-guard or unprepared you still eat shit), or just a relatively high flat reduction that lasts a long time, but expires when struck 1/2/3 times. As it is now, the apprentice mage armor (which takes a long time to craft, by the way), has less than half as much damage reduction as the makeshift armor. Adding 20 on top of that would still make it worse than makeshift armor, but at least it wouldn't be objectively awful.

Also also, does anyone know how to craft a utility frame? I can't craft it with fire clay or red clay.

Vesk blueblynd Keep breaking Unstable Riftblooms until you get a seed. It's a lowish chance, I think maybe 20%. I think it's also affected by the foraging malus that Rust Mage starts with. I recommend grabbing every flower in sight, and bringing it back to a rift that spawns, planting it there, and then letting the rift corrupt it into Riftblooms.

Once you get your first seed, keep repeating this process for more. Planted riftblooms, when fully grown, become normal (not unstable) riftblooms, which have a much higher rate of dropping their seed if you Transmute them with a wand, and always drop Shifting Fibers and Rusty Dust. 

Can I suggest a translation of the mod into Russian, for example?

Is anyone else having a problem where breaking riftbloom and rust crystals yields no items? (game version 1.20.7, mod version 2.4.1)

jamescook im running on my server Niukonska. Please message me in here or on discord for password.  On discord im Morggin@2172 

is there a server that runs this i can try to join?

@Menelos thanks for this, that's a relief. I love this mod.

I'm also scoping out my base for a potential pit trap for a devouring void. What is the damage area effect for it, and has it been fixed to pull essence from all enemies it damages? I want to make sure it works with modded enemies.

Kagahami Quack, I've got a bunch of mods aside from Rustbound Magic but not the first two you mentioned; I avoided shivers so far but bowtorn definitely drop stuff.

I'm trying to figure out which of my mods is doing this between Fantasy Creatures, Rust and Rot, and Rustbound Magic:

My shivers and bowtorn do not drop any loot. Anyone else experiencing this?

Trying to use preservation on cheese causes the cheese to get an error (error in BEcheese?) and if you try to pick it up it causes the game to crash.

at what depth do the rift anchors for rust crystals generate medium or large crystals?

Hello.

I'm hosting a server for a bunch of my friends and while all of us can open the guidebook just fine, we have one friend in particular who crashes whenever they open theirs. We're aware it's related to the "guidebookbg-icon-major0.png" as the crash logs indicate it cannot be found, yet despite downloading and redownloading and even taking the zip file from someone whos mod works when they open the book, it does not work. We've tried taking the mod out and adding it back in, we've tried restarting the server, we've tried removing and re-adding the mod into the server, but nothing seems to work. Is this simply a case of "try again and again" like was mentioned previously or is something going wrong here? Thanks for any advice, loving the mod so far!

Quack Vies,

The new 2.x series is enjoyable so far (although I used my mod to tune down the enemies a bit). I really like the new book and the hints about the progression, very well done.

I've not explored very far yet but one thing that surprised me is the fact you cannot move the celestial prism and the devouring void (but you can move the obelisk as it is needed for the ritual). When I played with the 1.x series I got used to have a place dedicated to rituals, and then I would use the resulting bloc elsewhere. And in fact in 2.x that is the case for the obelisk which drops as an object. I'm not sure why you added this restriction but could it be possible to drop the celestial prism/devouring void so it can be placed in it final location later? (or lift the restriction)

How are the pets/familiars acquired? Can any familiar drop from any creature? Or do creatures only drop their own pet version? As in, only bears dropping the bear familiar. Do they drop any variant? Again with bears as example, a brown bear being able to drop a brown/sun/polar bear pet. Want to try to get a specific one, and want to know if I need to seek out that specific creature, or if the pets/familiars are just a general, if very rare, drop from anything.

Vesk At the moment the drop rate of seeds is relatively low but breaking them does seem to be the main method. At the moment your best bet is to have a bunch of flowers to throw down around a rift to harvest. At a later point you can craft devices which behave like flowers or stones that you can place near rifts to generate Riftbloom and Rust Crystals and even generate artifical rifts.

AcidNight As above this is the main method that will require you to plant your own seeds and start your farm going. Remember that you can cast transmutation on planted seeds which can give bonuses to their drop at higher tiers.

Hello, there is no possibility of having a good quantity of seeds? I rarely have one when I cut them, then also I started magic on my new server then I paused to do the rest and here I want to craft a rustic compound but impossible (I do it well in the workbench I want to make the magic chalk (it is very expensive now to craft...) I crafted a wood wand yet which have the same request

Having trouble acquiring Riftbloom Seeds on Rustbound Magic 2.4.1 on VS v1.20.7 (Stable) in Singleplayer, even with all other mods disabled except "Rustbound Magic" (on a test world). The prompt to 'harvest' Unstable Riftbloom when Crouching (like in this mod page's tutorial image above) doesn't seem accessible currently, and looking at one with a knife equipped (flint+bone in this case) shows the UIX element below.

Pressing RMB in this state does nothing, and there is no prompt to "Harvest"; pressing LMB with a knife does break an Unstable Riftbloom and cause a chat text message to "You have unlocked the achievement [a rusty discovery!]! Check the 'Manual of Magical Arts' for a new guide.", which correctly enables the Manual (if you can acquire one), but acquiring one appears to be impossible in vanilla since there is no way to acquire a Riftbloom Seed? (breaking an Unstable Riftbloom yields no item(s)).

Are the monoliths and plinths used for anything?

I can confirm, Scrolls are broken as well.

We're playing on a modded server TTRP which has Rustbound Magic v2.3.10 and having an issue where nobody can use scrolls. They will crash your game every time. 

Additionally I've been trying to research the T1 spell of Mend Object, I have spent about 100k essence and gone through 400 different spell discoveries but it has not appeared yet. Considering Telekenisis is the same Neutral school and has no other tier similar to Mend Object, I am wondering if the chance values of that one are not set properly and maybe have a 1:10k chance instead of 1:100 or something.

How does it behave on already existing worlds? i just finished chapter 2 on my first ever save and would like more stuff to pursue...

attempting to change the apprentice armour's colour to teal while it's using the jonas skin crashes the game to desktop, unsure why, haven't updated to latest version

also, what purpose do the riftbloom anchors serve? they function the exact same as regular flowers

Redpaws At the moment only via creative, far as I have seen.

Are the magical bracelets able to be created, or are they only available from the Creative Mode menu? Really just want to know if they're something that even can be acquired yet or not. If they can be made, what tier is needed?

I am loving some of the stuff with the mod, especially the new utility blocks. I'm curious to know if some spells like Barrier or Rapidshot don't affect allies at the moment as allies get the barrier buff but with 0 HP - or if its a possible mod conflict or bad install. I suspect the ranged damage buff could be a conflict with Bullseye or Combat overhaul as the melee buff seems to work.

Would it be possible to request an option to have a base % of the mages max mana regen in addition to the fixed values when meditating? So those who invest more into magic and have a larger mana pool don't have to sit around longer, even with the higher tier armour and specialization.

Kagahami
Indeed these rituals are one time use and do consume the mana torches as well as any materials used. Later on the mana torches will be replaces with lanterns and they get more expensive. The mod is both a time sink and material sink. I'd reccomend stocking up on alot of materials before trying to do too much with the mod personally because just to level up your magic to use Lv2 and Lv3 magic will require you to break ALOT of wands just spamming transmute or the weak attack spells that they have to get to lv50 and then lv200 magic aquired via action rather than research.

So when I did my first Creation ritual, it only converted 1 item, then consumed both the chalk on the ground and the manatorches, both. All of them disappeared.

Is this normal? Rustic manatorches seem pretty expensive, and I also thought I would be able to relight them, per the manual entry.

My friends recently set their server up with this mod, and I'm really curious about these "benefits" for non-magic players VoidwalkerViolet mentioned. Are there any pros to opting not to learn magic on a server with this mod?
Also, is there a way to make the 'memory fragment' item stack? First fight I had after the mod was added clogged up a good third of my inventory with those fragments alone in less than two minutes, as they don't stack at all.

Hey just a quick question, is there anyway to obtain the Heart of Harmony or any of the other little wearables? I stumbled upon it in the crafting help menu and all it says is that it's "created by: synthesis." I was just wondering if this is something that is going to be added later on, or if it is already available.

ManaWei
Alright, thank you for your response. I'll work on getting the workbench. I do like that the mod is a bit cryptic, but I feel like it's going to dissway some people getting into it. Things could be just a smidge more clear.

ManaWei
OMG you have got to be kidding me. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Papa_Squat
The first page you see when you open the Manual of Magical Arts, before clicking anything else, is an achievement /progression guide.. it should help you figure out what to do..
I guarantee you it has an arrow to the greyed out workbench achievement.. 

RazVonCoon

Oh no, not at all.. you can use rituals to transmute flint into obsidian.. and you can even transmute other stones into flint..
Check the creation world magic.. It's literally on page 3-4 of the Ritual World Magic section.. I'm surprised you missed that..

Ritual World Magic is one of the most important aspects of the mod, and has been there since he first came up with the idea.

So, I thought this was kinda cool and have been working on trying to learn everything I could to get up and running. But at this point it seems that ALL progress is locked behind getting the resonator otherwise I cant connect my workbench to a source of energy, but to do that requires finding obsidian basicly to transmute it into the bits, meaning that the entire mod is locked behind something Ive spent weeks trying to find and have had 0 luck in because apparently there are seeds where lava doesnt seem to exist? So even though Ive burned through Many, Many wands to get to the lv50 magic experience which for the love of god uses so many materials and eventually just gets to the point of redundancy and just standing in a corner casting transmute 1000 times since the research experience doesnt count toward that... I LITERALLY Can not progress in this mod all because the other resonators were removed from the game and are REQUIRED to connect 2 magical things together.

Unless Im missing something, which I could be from how cryptic this mod likes to be even after researching all the runes because I had nothing better to do, I'm at the point where the mod has just STOPPED being interesting, fun or even useful. I DONT want to restart an entire game because I have to find lava or obsidian and the seed just didnt spawn any. And I dont feel like I should have to cheat in this 1 item to continue the mod...

ManaWei, I have the "getting started" portion that goes 4 pages, ending with peering through the veil, which I have done. I have unlocked magic, I have the mana bar and can meditate. My mana bar currently has 11 mana. Flipping to the other pages that start with "Magic Basics" I have read this over and over, I think I am stuck here. I don't know what to do to progress. I understand it may take time to progress, but I simply don't know what I even need to do. I can try working toward the Thaumic Workbench, but again I wish at the very least it was stated somewhere that this is the next step. I'm one fiber away from attempting that. Things are simply just unclear. My stance is that if a mod is too "cryptic" to get into, people will drop it. That isn't fun. I work as an IT professional.. I'm no dummy, but when I am home relaxing with my wife, we want to chill.. not play mind games for half an hour figuring out how to progress a mod. Fun is the most important aspect. If I want to play puzzle games I'll replay MIST. What I am ultimately asking for is simply a guiding hand in the manual that puts the player on the right track in the right way. If the Thaumic Workbench is the next step, I thank you for that. I know others will be lost with the current config of the book. I wasted some time sifting through youtube videos as well.. The one video I found from 6 months ago seems to be already outdated. I tried following it but there is no "Makeshift Staff" anywhere. I'm just lost at this point. Tomorrow I will forge toward the Thaumic Workbench to see if I can make any progression.

haro

No those are the pillars you buff the obelisk with.. to make it more effective with runestones..

Mefflin

You will find the fitting ritual in the World Ritual section of the book.. near the end..
i was stuck until i remembered the materials you usually need to drop 1 at a time.. if it's dropped as a bunch it doesn't wwork
drop by the mods section on the official discord if you have issues you usually get a faster answer there

Papa_Squat

What does the progression page tell you ?
The very first page shown to you when you open the manual?
Magic takes time and patience, he didn't design it to be a quick progression..
You might be needing to make your first Thaumic Workbench, so you can make your first wand.. which means getting resources one way or the other.. either unstable riftblooms, or killing mobs from the mod..
"Requires Magic level 1+" means you need to have unlocked magic.. That is the blue mana bar and the green "I"(roman letter for 1) in the little box above it.

Consider dropping by the mods section on the official discord.. you usually gete a faster answer there..

Is there any way to make the book a little more helpful getting started out? I unlocked magic but the book really gives no guidance past this point. Just meditate. I can't seem to craft anything.. wands, staffs, use spells. I just have no idea where to go from here after unlocking the mana bar. Just a hint even would suffice. I've scoured the crafting items list, I can't seem to make anything because it says requires magic level 1+, which I don't know what that means. I have read the guide and all pages 3 times over. I'm at wits end.

@Meffin

you need to place 4 runestones at the green boxes you see when you sneak + right klick the obelisk. i think its a bug that you need to do that.

i cant for the life of me make the light prism thing i got it all set up but it just dosent work

Not sure if this is helpful but I got the following error while playing recently. 

3/26/2025 12:26:11 AM: Critical error occurred in the following mod: rustboundmagic@2.4.1
Loaded Mods: autopanning@1.0.1, autosifter@1.1.0, bagofholding@1.0.8, bartender@1.1.2, bettercrates@1.8.0, betterloot@1.1.1, scrapblocks@1.2.6, buzzwords@1.7.0, cellardoor@1.4.0, chalkpigments@1.0.2, craftablecompanion@1.2.1, decor@1.2.1, DiamondTools@2.0.6, domesticanimaltrader@1.1.0, dyedarmor@1.1.1, hangingoillamps@1.0.3, longtermfood@0.1.0, millwright@1.1.8, natsachievements@1.2.0, primitivesurvival@3.7.6, qptech@1.15.3, sortablestorage@2.2.9, translocatorengineeringredux@1.5.6, translocatormap@1.0.0, game@1.20.6, vsimgui@1.1.7, wildanimalstrader@1.0.8, alchemy@1.6.48, betterfirepit@1.1.5, betterruins@0.4.9, butchering@1.8.1, carryon@1.8.0-rc.2, cartwrightscaravan@1.1.1, clothshelf@1.0.1, commonlib@2.6.1, composter@1.2.1, configlib@1.5.1, daytrader@1.0.5, electricity@0.0.12, extrainfo@1.9.8, fieldsofsalt@1.2.2, fromgoldencombs@1.8.11, hardcorewater@1.3.5, hudclockpatch@1.0.0, itemframe@1.0.0, mannequinstand@1.0.5, ndlvillagers@1.4.0, petai@3.0.1, rustandrailroads@2.0.2, rustboundmagic@2.4.1, speedboat@1.0.0, tailorsachet@1.0.1, tentbag@2.2.0, th3dungeon@0.4.1, th3expansion@1.3.0, translocatordirectionindicator@1.0.0, versionchecker@1.1.0, creative@1.20.6, vsinstrumentsbase@2.0.1, vsquest@2.0.0, survival@1.20.6, vsvillage@2.0.0, woodenfortifications@2.0.5, woodstain@1.3.1, xlib@0.8.16, campaigncartographer@4.6.7, captureanimals@2.8.1, cats@3.1.1, electricityaddon@0.0.19, playercorpse@1.11.0, statushudcontpatch@1.0.1, stonequarry@3.4.3, vsonlinepicturemod@1.1.0, vsradiomod@0.2.1, vsvillageaged@0.0.5, vsvillageindustrial@0.0.5, vsvillagetowers@0.0.5, wolftaming@3.0.5, xskills@0.8.17, rustboundmagic_xskills@0.2.0
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at rustboundmagic.src.client.HudPlayerCastBarRM.UpdateCast() in C:\Users\Vies\Documents\GitHub\Mods-VintageStoryNet7\Mod-RustboundMagic\rustboundmagic\src\client\HudPlayerCastBarRM.cs:line 901
at rustboundmagic.src.client.HudPlayerCastBarRM.OnGameTick(Single dt) in C:\Users\Vies\Documents\GitHub\Mods-VintageStoryNet7\Mod-RustboundMagic\rustboundmagic\src\client\HudPlayerCastBarRM.cs:line 157
at Vintagestory.Common.GameTickListener.OnTriggered(Int64 ellapsedMilliseconds) in VintagestoryLib\Common\Model\GameTickListener.cs:line 31
at Vintagestory.Common.EventManager.TriggerGameTick(Int64 ellapsedMilliseconds, IWorldAccessor world) in VintagestoryLib\Common\EventManager.cs:line 170
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.MainRenderLoop(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 848
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.MainGameLoop(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 740
at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToPrimary(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 170
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 695
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 670
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 88
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 334
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 130
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

can we get more documentation for allowing mods to use rustbound magic? such as how to add elemental damage to an entity (or if possible a tool?), and how to add magic resistance to armors?

I found this is how you added the magic armor stats. 

"magicStatModifiersByType": { (pretend the rest of it is here)

and I'm unsure but?

"isMagicDamageTypeByType": is used to specifiy that the creature does or does not deal magic damage

"MagicDamageTypeByType": is used to specify wich magic damage type

but if this is true ravagers and sentinels don't deal magic damage?

hi. my "ritual of purification" shows that i need to place the mana torches 2 blocks above the floor. the green blocks show that. what am i missing here? even if i play them 2 blocks above it doesnt work. i figured out what the problem is. it did show 4 green boxes. i needed to place runestones there to make it work.

VoidwalkerViolet  there is an item ingame that will allow magic users to forget all magic. I forgot if it is cheap to craft or not but yes there is a way.

just checking, the newest version is not compatible with 1.20.4, right? 

@VoidwalkerViolet Cursed ambrosia will remove their knowledge of magic :3

One of my friends started messing around with magic, has a mana bar, and has now decided he doesnt want to pursue learning magic. Is there a way for him to unlearn/reset his magic progress, to go back to being considered a non-magic user for the benfits that come with it?

awesome mod! 

Thank you Vies for making such an awesome mod and pushing out tons of updates! This reminds me of Thuamcraft and i can't wait for my friends on my server to try this mod out! :D

Is there a better way to quickly get dark essence? I have runestones upgrading the generation of essence and I try summoning rift portals near the devouring void to get enemies to spawn but it doesn't seem nearly as easy or efficient when compared to the celestial prism. I've also tried breeding animals to sacrifice but it just takes forever gathering enough essence to do anything compared to my light essence which is sitting outside with near max essence stored without any runestones.

Oh I just found another bug, Lesser Befriend Animal lets animals reach up to generation 3 instead of just one, also what is the best place to report bugs? is this place fine or if i find more should I do it in the issue tracker? Also ty so much for this mod It's stratching my survival magic itch. I'm loving the progress even though its grindy it just feels so satisfying.

ApoloPablo   

Debes crear el libro de texto, que viene siendo la guia que te explica el proceso para avanzar en los diferentes niveles del mod. 

Un saludo. 

Huh... I'm not sure why but I don't seem to be getting that sound. I've been on the lookout for any indication of them for a while and every time I've just spotaneously exploded without any warning. I even thought I had downloaded a troll mod the first couple times because I couldn't figure out where they were coming from.

I've never been able to see them either.

ElusiveEnigma  Thank you for the kind words!

ITSGIBBYnowNOW I fix in the most recent update. Thanks!

OliverRook They play a lit fuse sound when triggering detonate. That is all the hints you get that the ravager close.

LizardWizard69 Also all fix in the most recent update. Thanks!

Kovalski What you see in the class selection stuff is what you get. I guess you could count being able to make the magic stuff as a perk maybe?

Menelos Yeah like I said I am not pursuing integrations with other mods like xskills. 

An inspiring mod. It seems you have taken to the API of Vintage Story like a fish to water. If I had half your skill Vintage Engineering would be a masterpiece by now.

Any chance you could spin of your quest-book system into a library that I might add one for VE?

Keep up the good work. 

Quack folks,

I'm using XSkills and I needed the combat to be rewarding so I made a small mod for that. It is very simple and could be merge into this mod but Vies did not seem interested and this way they do not have to take care of this aspect.

Also for more casual gamers I made another mod to tweak the mobs and that means Vies does not have to compromise their vision.

And thanks for this amazing mod :-)

hola recien descargo el mod pero no encuentro nada de informacion al respecto de como progresar mas que solo crear el libro  y no mas hay alguna guia o como es la progresion con el mod que me pueda ayudar ???

Hi! Love the mod so far, I would just liketo ask, what difference other than the the listed percentages does the starting class of a Rust mage give? I am playing with multiple other mods, for which I mostly use a clockmaker, so I am wondering what I am missing out on :). 

Heya, could you fix the inconsistencies with all of the essense generator's rusk sickness aura when they're encased in runes? On the northern and western sides the aura extends 1 block beyond the runes and the aura only extends to the runes on the southern and eastern sides.Using Rustbound magic 2.3.10 on vintage story 1.20.4

Please add some kind of warning or indication of where the rust ravagers are. I keep getting randomly blown up at my own home in the middle of doing something without any indication of what it is. It took me a while to even figure out it was an elemental from this mod.

Running on 64 bit Windows 10.0.19045.0 with 32535 MB RAM
Game Version: v1.20.4 (Stable)
3/15/2025 10:49:26 AM: Critical error occurred in the following mod: rustboundmagic@2.3.10
Loaded Mods: acorns@0.7.2, aculinaryartillery@1.2.5, tonwexp-neue@2.1.1, anmitechco@1.3.0, axleinblocks@1.20.1-rc.5, scrapblocks@1.2.6, bettertraders@0.0.9, bonesbonesandbones@1.0.5, caninae@1.0.30, capreolinae@1.2.5, ceratopsidae@1.0.6, combatoverhaul@0.2.1, craftablecompanion@1.2.1, dodgemaster@1.1.1, expandedmolds@1.1.2, firestarters@1.4.3, floralzonescaperegion@1.0.14, floralzonescaribbeanregion@1.0.11, floralzonescentralaustralianregion@1.0.8, floralzonesmediterraneanregion@1.0.4, floralzonesneozeylandicregion@1.0.7, casuariidae@1.0.22, dinornithidae@1.0.14, elephantidae@1.0.8, felinae@0.2.8, manidae@1.0.13, meiolaniidae@0.1.3, rhinocerotidae@1.0.16, sirenia@1.0.17, spheniscidae@1.0.8, viverridae@1.0.2, geoaddons@1.4.0, giantgouramis@1.0.2, immersiveorecrush@2.2.1, jonasboat@1.0.1, linearpower@0.3.4, manualdough@1.1.3, manualquenching@1.0.4, manualscraping@1.2.1, manualtoolcrafting@1.3.5, millwright@1.1.8, morefuel@1.0.6, pantherinae@1.1.23, peacockbasses@1.1.2, plasterwashes@1.1.0, primitivesurvival@3.7.6, prospecttogether@2.0.2, ridetogether@1.0.0, ruststones@1.2.0, dzsalvagepluspatch@1.0.1, sprintmomentum@0.1.2, spyglass@0.5.2, terraprety@6.0.2, truesunfishes@1.1.2, tyrannosaurus@1.1.3, undertangledboughs@1.0.2, viescraftmachines@2.4.0, vombatidae@0.3.1, game@1.20.4, abcsredux@1.0.9, ancienttools@1.5.24, animalcages@3.2.2, apeflowerpots@1.2.3, apegrapes@1.2.6, armory@0.2.0, autoatlas@1.1.1, betterfpcamera@1.3.0, betterruins@0.4.8, blastfurnace@1.0.0, butchering@1.8.1, butterflycases@1.0.2, chestorganizer@1.2.3, commonlib@2.6.1, cooperativecombatrework@1.0.0, CraftableCartography_fork@0.1.6, decayingcreatures@0.1.3, electricity@0.0.12, remiel_sawsticks@1.0.0, expandedfoods@1.7.4, fendragonbcs@0.1.6, fromgoldencombs@1.8.11, hardcorewater@1.3.5, herbarium@1.4.0, hydrateordiedrate@2.0.8, immersivewoodchopping@0.7.5, immersivewoodsawing@0.2.7, krpgenchantment@0.6.22, kscartographytable@1.0.1, maltiezcrossbows@1.0.0, maltiezfirearms@0.10.9, metaltongs@1.2.3, mopiscrawlingmod@1.1.1, moreanimals@1.4.1, claywheel@1.1.2, rustboundmagic@2.3.10, smithingplus@1.3.8, stonebakeoven@1.1.6, tabletopgames@2.9.1, tarmor@2.1.0, th3dungeon@0.4.1, tstools@2.4.0, unconscious@1.10.2, creative@1.20.4, survival@1.20.4, wearandtear@1.3.7, woodenfortifications@2.0.5, bugnetcompatibility@1.0.1, butcheringcompatpatch@1.0.4, electricityaddon@0.0.19, exoskeletons@0.2.4, epxandedbloodbread@1.0.1, moreblueclay@1.0.1, playercorpse@1.11.0, sausages@0.0.8, shearlib@1.1.2, stonequarry@3.4.3, tpnetpatched@1.14.6, wildcraftfruit@1.3.2, wrustbound@2.0.0-dev.6, wool@1.6.0
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Vintagestory.Common.ClassRegistryAPI.CreateEntity(EntityProperties entityType) in VintagestoryLib\Common\API\ClassRegistryAPI.cs:line 85
at rustboundmagic.src.common.blockentity.BlockEntityElementalCrystalRM.DoSpawn(EntityProperties entityType, Vec3d spawnPosition, Int64 herdid) in C:\Users\Vies\Documents\GitHub\Mods-VintageStoryNet7\Mod-RustboundMagic\rustboundmagic\src\common\blockentity\crystal\BlockEntityElementalCrystalRM.cs:line 786
at rustboundmagic.src.common.blockentity.BlockEntityElementalCrystalRM.RunDrifterSpawning(EntityPlayer playerIn, Vec3d spawnPos) in C:\Users\Vies\Documents\GitHub\Mods-VintageStoryNet7\Mod-RustboundMagic\rustboundmagic\src\common\blockentity\crystal\BlockEntityElementalCrystalRM.cs:line 739
at rustboundmagic.src.common.blockentity.BlockEntityElementalCrystalRM.RunAttemptToProduceNegativeEffect(EntityPlayer playerIn, Int32 tierIn) in C:\Users\Vies\Documents\GitHub\Mods-VintageStoryNet7\Mod-RustboundMagic\rustboundmagic\src\common\blockentity\crystal\BlockEntityElementalCrystalRM.cs:line 714
at rustboundmagic.src.common.block.crystal.BlockElementalCrystalRM.OnBlockBroken(IWorldAccessor world, BlockPos pos, IPlayer byPlayer, Single dropQuantityMultiplier) in C:\Users\Vies\Documents\GitHub\Mods-VintageStoryNet7\Mod-RustboundMagic\rustboundmagic\src\common\block\crystal\BlockElementalCrystalRM.cs:line 304
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.OnPlayerTryDestroyBlock(BlockSelection blockSelection) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 1691
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.ContinueBreakSurvival(BlockSelection blockSelection, Block block, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 760
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.HandleMouseInteractionsBlockSelected(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 598
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.OnFinalizeFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 85
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ClientEventManager.cs:line 188
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 992
at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 242
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 695
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 670
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 88
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 334
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 130
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

trying to touch a unstable rust crystal crashes game

excuse me how but how exactly do i use the rusty dust? i had my stability to lower than 10 but i went to use it and it said i had to sneak so i sneak and hold right click again and nothing happens :C 

Vies

There is turmoil when it comes to modding, putting your work out there, and receiving feedback. I just want to say, thank you so much. This has easily become my favorite mod, and I can tell you have quite a bit of passion for this project. Keep going. You got this and there are so many behind you supporting you.

Side note: Not having documentation and having it all be a bit of a mystery until unlocked is super neat. Feels like I am discovering it with my character.

Didn't know so many people used summon light for lighting! I had a few fixes in 2.3.9 that were too big to just leave it dangling so I pushed it out faster. The 2.3.10 update I just uploaded finished the lighting overhaul I had started last update. Summon Light now supports different colors! Enjoy!

Chasir01 Thanks! It would be interesting to do a monster manual when I get a few more elemental creatures in the game. Got some plans there! And I may have to change a lot of the manual too with the new structure I will be talking about this weekend.

ElusiveEnigma I was going to fix this, but I may also put in a way to create the primordial fragments anyways! Good catch though, I tend to shotgun things in... lol XD

Ov3rkill Thank you! The next things I am eyeing are the rituals and starting to map out either bosses or the soul/lunar magic systems.

darthsasha101 There isn't a way to do that atm, the drops all scale with how you harvest and current is a random amount. If enough people want this, I will add it to the configs.

RachelTGG CO is dead to me. Got too many bad memories getting the current patches to play nice, and I don't even use it! lol I invite anyone else to make any CO patches for this mod (so I don't have to)! Not sure where to start with making a patch for a mage being good with blunt weapons but if it is anything like how the armor patch went, I could save myself time and just delete the mod and start fresh. haha

ElusiveEnigma I just fixed this, will be in the 2.3.11 update in a few days. I specifically look for drifters by name and didn't add the other rust creatures for the bonus essence. In MC, I could of lookd for a specific class file which would of covered all of this. This game decided to just make everything the EntityAgent class, which sucks. 

Dackstrus Yeah I was halfway through revamping the summon light spell. At least you have different color now! lol

Vyklade You can't research unstable artifacts. Cast transmuation on it to get an inert form of it. Then you can add a rusty gear to charge it, then you can meditate on it.

OliverRook It is true rng my friend, don't go to a casino :)

Hey, am I supposed to get nothing but a single riftbloom seed from almost 25 unstable riftblooms?

How do you actually research the floating things in rifts? If I meditate looking at them, nothing happens, no matter how long I sit there. Also is there a guide or wikipedia for this mod?

Did the light levels of the t3 light orb change? They're way darker then they were, seem to be interacting with new light sources and going way darker.

I was using them for house lighting because... well... mage things. If they were changed, i'd totally suggest a new spell pointedly for house lighting. Make it cost more if the T3 light's are to cheap for your balance tastes.

To be fair i was even building the towns streetlamps with them and chiseled blocks because i liked how it looked. I'd really like to keep using them for city lighting. Maybe expose the light level in configs?

RemyDuron I have never seen one because they are always exploding on my backside or on another random mob.

Vyklade There is the elemental ravager which does explode, but I think it makes a noise. Though maybe I'm wrong, I know the other elementals do. If you can keep an eye out on them and take them out from range, they do have some nice potential drops.

Vyklade There is the elemental ravager which does explode, but I think it makes a noise. Though maybe I'm wrong, I know the other elementals do. If you can keep an eye out on them and take them out from range, they do have some nice potential drops.

Does this mod add something that explodes? I keep just randomly exploding, it's happened several times now since installinmg this mod and I can't figure out what causes it since there is no sort of telegraph, I just suddenly explode without any warning.

Vies

It seems the Devouring Void accrues additional essence when taking health from drifters. It, however, does not do that when stealing health from bowtorn and shivers as well. Do they just need to be added to the table as rust creatures?

Drop an Arcanus into the center. Literally drop that is. SparkySatyr

Any chance of getting a patch for Combat Overhaul so it uses some of the new traits that Combat overhaul uses? Like, being good with staff/clubs for example (i forgot the exact name)

This might sound stupid, but how do I actually use the crucible? I just can't figure out how to make eldrathium or arcanus with it

How would one change the drop rate of items on the planted riftblooms? I've edited the json files in the zip itself as well as looked into the config file (which doesn't have any such options). I've edited all the drop rate values (to no change) in the json file in blocktypes/plants/ called riftbloom.json. I'm playing singleplayer and don't want to have to farm 500 plants (I've already got like 200) and don't want to make it take too long.

Thanks for the amazing high quality work Vies, your mod is a wonderful addition to the game.

DrBeardedHobo
You can try to lobotomize them a bit by putting a cold hard copper chissel in their shiny crystal eyes and gently hammer away, orrrrrr you can change the "seekingRange" values in assets\rustboundmagic\entities\creatures\elementals\sentry\entityelementalsentry.json. For example if you set the property range in "Aggro 0", "Aggro 1" and "Aggro 2"  to something like 5 they will pretty much ignore you until you invade there personal space. It makes them a big weird since they also don't chase you after aggro if you walk away. I wouldn't do this to the higher tier ones since it screws with the danger/reward system to much in my opinion.

Vies

I think the vanilla handbook has a bug. Perhaps I have not progressed the magic handbook enough to see a certain page in the rituals section? ...but the vanilla handbook says Primoridal Fragments can be made in the Ritual of Creation. Consulting the magic book shows me that is untrue, BUT I can get them from the Ritual of Destruction by downcrafting rusty gears. Where have I gone awry here?

Otherwise, everything else here is great work and I am sure you know it! Keep up the fantastic work!

Anyone know how to modify the enemy's aggression? I'm running it on a server with friends and I'm loving it. My friends aren't too interested but I wanted to make the elementals passive until struck. Anyone know how to do that?

if i remember right it's rustic compound in a thaumic workbench thats conected to one of the essence generators

How do you get ash? im still not sure of it?

Vies

Thank you for making this mod, this is my favorite mod to add to any server im on and always a blast to play with! I think that the elementals are a wonderful addition and love the rest of the new updates as well. would love to see more details in the in game handbook! like a monster manual or something!

Kind regards,

@Vies

What about Hexcasting from minecraft mods? It is about programming spells by drawing symbols. You should try it, and see if it's possible to add as a radical change.

Scratch that, the latest update fixed the kemono integration. Great stuff and thank you for all the work! :D

Thank you all for the encouraging words! This magic journey has been a labor of love and I am glad it is starting to find itself as more work gets put into it. Love hearing about what people are doing with the mod.

RemyDuron  You know I have been waiting for a minecraft like game with a native magic system in it. I feel like I need to replay Ars Magica, Thaumcraft, Witchery, and Astral sorcery again to get a refresher on the mods. If you see radical changes in the mod, I probably thought something was cool and had to bring it in! lol

Tolker  That sounds cool! Honestly if you want to make gems that effect magic stats, I say go for it! I encourage anyone to change things to fit their play styles. If you want to make a super admin gem that drops a random spell scroll, or 9999 mana, etc, do it!

I did want to add either gems, enchantments, some kind of way to customize things. I also had an idea to make the essence attunement system be migrated to an armor bonus system, like you get all 3 dark mage armor pieces that attunes you that way. I should of done it that way but hindsight is 20/20, right? I would like to come up with a way to make armor more fun to get than just grid crafting. same with upgrades and maybe having you pick between the light/neutral/dark type gear for tier 2. I also wanted to look into adding other magic classes, but that is a very rough idea there. lol

darktoes  I did make the ravagers quiet, but when they do start detonate, I did make them make a hissing noise :D May have to up the sound. lol

Annastasija  Thanks, I have this fixed for the next maintenance update.

IvanZS  You should be able to just hold right-click to channel the use of the rift stabilizer. Sneak makes you place the item down. I have false chat message that pop up that can be confusing atm. Those messages are fixed in the next maintenance update, whenever I get that out.

Hi Vies! How the rift stabilizer is supposed to be used? I put one practically in the rift, on a block, but nothing hapenned...

Edit: NVM, I have the "sneak" key re-mapped.... One should actually shift + rightclick the stabilizer in order to cast a cleansing light. 

So, thought I would dirt out the dirt from under a rust crystal to get it to drop, and the game crashed, here is the log.

Game Version: v1.20.4 (Stable)
3/5/2025 6:33:43 PM: Critical error occurred in the following mod: rustboundmagic@2.3.6
Loaded Mods: aculinaryartillery@1.2.5, aloysiaskosphotographyfix@1.0.0, americanfrontiersman@1.5.1, tonwexp-neue@2.1.1, anmitechco@1.1.5, bedrespawn@1.1.0, bf@0.0.3, scrapblocks@1.2.6, buzzwords@1.7.0, chiseltools@1.14.12, combatoverhaul@0.1.29, blocklayeroverhaul@1.0.2, landformoverhaul@1.0.1, decor@1.2.1, floralzonescaperegion@1.0.14, floralzonescaribbeanregion@1.0.11, floralzonescentralaustralianregion@1.0.8, floralzoneseastasiaticregion@1.0.6, floralzonesmediterraneanregion@1.0.4, floralzonesneozeylandicregion@1.0.7, flora@1.0.5, forestsymphony@1.0.2, bovinae@0.1.3, caninae@1.0.29, capreolinae@1.2.4, casuariidae@1.0.21, cervinae@0.1.2, elephantidae@1.0.7, felinae@0.2.7, machairodontinae@1.0.22, meiolaniidae@0.1.2, pantherinae@1.1.22, rhinocerotidae@1.0.15, sirenia@1.0.16, spheniscidae@1.0.7, viveriidae@1.0.1, hotspringheal@1.0.1, immersiveorecrush@2.2.1, khanimaltweaks@1.0.0, lettherebelight@0.0.1, long-term_food@0.2.1, manualquenching@1.0.4, manualscraping@1.2.1, morecalcinedflint@1.0.0, morecrystals@1.3.0, unnotoolochre@1.0.0, unochre@1.3.0, oldquern@0.0.1, particlesplus@1.2.1, plasterwashes@1.0.0, primitivesurvival@3.7.6, saddleblanketbeds@0.0.2, SmokingChimneys@1.2.0, undertangledboughs@1.0.2, game@1.20.4, vsimgui@1.1.7, weedgardens@1.0.1, wetlandharvest@0.0.1, wdepositscarcity@1.0.0-dev.1, wforests@1.0.0-dev.1, wwaymarkers@1.0.0-dev.1, yeriksclothblocks@1.1.2, yeriksleatherblocks@1.0.1, alchemy@1.6.48, ancienttools@1.5.24, apeflowerpots@1.2.1, apegrapes@1.2.6, armory@0.1.7, betterchisel@1.0.0-rc.4, BetterProspecting@1.7.0, betterruins@0.4.7, BreakOreWithRocks@1.0.0, butchering@1.8.1, carryon@1.8.0-pre.1, chestorganizer@1.2.3, commonlib@2.6.1, configlib@1.5.1, coreofarts@0.2.3, customtransitionlib@1.0.0, electricity@0.0.12, expandedfoods@1.7.4, foodshelves@1.5.3, fromgoldencombs@1.8.11-rc.7, glojack@1.4.0, hardcorewater@1.3.5, hydrateordiedrate@1.9.7, improvedhandbookrecipes@1.1.3, lavoisier@1.3.1, liquidcontainers@1.3.1, maketea@0.3.1, maltiezcrossbows@0.6.6, maltiezfirearms@0.10.7, metaltongs@1.2.3, morepiles@2.1.2, spearexpantion@0.3.1, pewter@1.2.1, recipeselector@1.0.1, rustboundmagic@2.3.6, scarecrow@1.6.5, smithingplus@1.2.5, stepupadvanced@1.0.4, stonebakeoven@1.1.6, vanity@2.4.1, creative@1.20.4, survival@1.20.4, alchemistry@1.0.2, artofcooking@0.2.4, artofgrowing@0.5.3, autoconfiglib@2.0.6, brainfreeze@1.1.0, chemistrylib@1.1.5, detailedanimals@0.4.1, electricityaddon@0.0.19, em@3.1.0, helvehammerext@1.7.0, pabrass@1.0.0, pagoldsilver@1.0.0, shearlib@1.1.2, wethology@1.0.0-dev.9, bricklayers@3.0.0-pre.3, kosphotography@1.4.3, tailorsdelight@1.9.3, wool@1.6.0, dressmakers@1.5.1
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at rustboundmagic.src.common.block.crystal.BlockElementalCrystalRM.OnBlockBroken(IWorldAccessor world, BlockPos pos, IPlayer byPlayer, Single dropQuantityMultiplier) in C:\Users\Vies\Documents\GitHub\Mods-VintageStoryNet7\Mod-RustboundMagic\rustboundmagic\src\common\block\crystal\BlockElementalCrystalRM.cs:line 97
at Vintagestory.Common.BlockAccessorBase.BreakBlock(BlockPos pos, IPlayer byPlayer, Single dropQuantityMultiplier) in VintagestoryLib\Common\API\BlockAccessorBase.cs:line 550
at Vintagestory.GameContent.BlockBehaviorOmniAttachable.OnNeighbourBlockChange(IWorldAccessor world, BlockPos pos, BlockPos neibpos, EnumHandling& handled) in VSSurvivalMod\BlockBehavior\BehaviorOmniAttachable.cs:line 81
at Vintagestory.API.Common.Block.OnNeighbourBlockChange(IWorldAccessor world, BlockPos pos, BlockPos neibpos) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Collectible\Block\Block.cs:line 1376
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.TriggerNeighbourBlocksUpdate(BlockPos pos) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 3264
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.OnPlayerTryDestroyBlock(BlockSelection blockSelection) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 1691
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.ContinueBreakSurvival(BlockSelection blockSelection, Block block, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 760
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.HandleMouseInteractionsBlockSelected(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 617
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.OnFinalizeFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 85
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ClientEventManager.cs:line 188
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 992
at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 242
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 695
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 670
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 88
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 334
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 130
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

For what it's worth, I think your mod is awesome. The sentries and drones are one of the few monsters that actually put (a little) danger on the surface, and they serve to point out where rifts have spawned better than getting tapped by a bowtorn in the dark from half a click away.

That said, you have to make your mod for you first. Focus on making it fun for yourself, worry about what other people think later and if they conflict, screw other people. At the time of writing you have ~43000 downloads, so I think you're hearing the loud minority anyway, and the vast majority of users think your mod is awesome but don't bother to say anything. Feel free to ping me if you need someone to talk to about it, I've been in the modding/dev scene of other games a bit and have an idea what it's like.

EDIT: Also I'm of the mind that the ravagers or whatever those exploding rock things are need to make some sort of ambient noise. A couple of times one has snuck up on me while I'm working around the base and scared me so bad I almost had to change my pants.

I am going to work with KenigVovan from CanJewelry to have the mage armor accept jewels. I dont need any input for it but I am flagging that it is something that I would like so the mage armor doesnt have a debuff from not having the slots compared to others in the came. Gems usually affect things like hunger rate, movement speed, or durability loss. I plan to keep most of the gems that work on armor generically on the mage armor EXCEPT for durability since you already provided an easy way to repair so I dont feel like it is necessary to add the durability reduction to mage armor. And while I could make a gem that reduces cast time speed I want to respect your work and how you already set progression for mages so I will only do normal existing gems on it. If you feel differently let me know and I will work to add other effects but since you have specified you dont want to pursue integration or anything else I want to respect the boundaries and just make it compatible while including your armors.

I want to add to those saying they like the elementals and would definitely be cool with seeing more enemies. Configuration options for spawning would be cool, more customizability is rarely bad, but I find the default level of spawning to be fine. The sentries would be frustrating if they had super fast projectiles and ran away from you like the bowtorn, but since they close the distance and their projectiles are slow and dodgeable they are not frustrating. The drone, ravager and sentries all add something to the vanilla monsters and make combat more diverse.

The threshold to complain online about something will always be lower than the threshold to praise, seems to just be human nature. Best practice is to try and learn what you can from haters online, but this is a free mod so you can also feel completely fine just ignoring them. If they don't like it they can make their own mod, you owe them nothing. I have enjoyed this quite a bit so far, not very deep into it yet but I was disappointed Vintage Story didn't have a magic system by default and one of the primary things I was looking forward to when I started my modded playthrough was using this mod. I've seen others comparing it to Thaumcraft, but I also think of the Minecraft mod Witchery which I remember making magic feel, well, magical rather than the sort of techno-magic feeling of Thaumcraft. It is a best of both worlds in a way, feels pretty magical and ritualistic but it also has a research system that teaches you about it gradually like Thaumcraft (IIRC, been some years). This is definitely in the top tier of mods available for Vintage Story and among the ones that add the most interesting expansion to the content rather than just elaborating on vanilla systems or providing quality of life features. You're doing great and I wish you all the best.

Amazing update, You are doing such a great job with this mod! God Speed!

Hey, I just wanted to thank you for all the cool stuff in the mod. I know I have opened a few issues and and all but I really have enjoyed RBM so much. I am playing in a server with other friends and we each have our own path in it. This has kept me super engaged even with all the changes. I am sorry people have asked for so many changes with the golems. I can understand with how many there were at the beginning (like 3 weeks ago) we had our little golem armadas that would send us to Narnia with a single hit. It has been incredibly fun an engaging to handle the grimoires, the lesser wands, all the crazy crucible item creation and now that we split to have a base in the south with more warmth for crops, our gateway travel. 
I am super thankful for how quickly you update the mod and fix issues. it really makes the mod feel incredibly engaging and I can't wait for both wells to be added.

Thank you so much for all your hard work. I do hope you understand that not everything needs to be changed! It is ultimately your mod and people can fine tune it if they want. (if you feel golems are great as is leave them! just tell people where to change it so it is on their hands and not yours!)

PS: LONG LIVE DEPTH RIFT ANCHORS! I WAS TIRED OF FILLING BARRELS WITH SALT WATER!!

Thank you thank you!

Vies 
Wanted to give my own praise: This reminds of old Thaumcraft in the best of ways. I hope to see it continue to evolve. Also, while the sentries and such jumpscare me often, they are not nearly that bad for me even before the msot recent update.

Josyph I greatly appreciate the comment, makes my day that much better.

Kitsu It is sad but it must be said. I have RL troubles recently trying to just get through the days and seeing more stuff on the elementals, plus other messages on other platforms with people saying I ruined things with my elementals, it is starting to affect my mental health. I do the best I can, just doesn't seem to be good enough.

I also saw how Rorax handled G3rste's issue today, pretty damn unprofessional in my opinion to just openly blast one of the modding pillars of this community instead of doing the right thing and going to him privately to try to resolve things, to reach out and see what is wrong. I don't agree with what G3rste did with the crash, but G3rste is a great guy and anyone that knows him will vouch for it. A moderator going right into attack mode and threats in the comments, that just put a sour taste in my mouth and a lot of respect has been lost. You are a moderator, you need to be a pillar for the community.

Our community grew with 1.20.X and some growing pains are toxic people coming into our awesome community. Looking at the comments and seeing how some people are trying to put G3rste down, instead of trying to address and understand the super toxic interactions us modders can AND do face is a pretty big slap in the face to us all because it can easily be me or any other modder in this position. My first thought with reading the petai drama was "I wonder how big of an a-hole that guy had to be to have G3rste to nuke him. I hope G3rste is alright." Is it fair for me to get on my PC to read dissertations about how terrible my ideas are and how, literal phrasing from one particular little gem I got back in early feb, my magic mod's implementation is a 'literal cancer to the game'? Again, skin is only so thick. This moderator interaction gave me a lot to consider going forward and I am not quite sure where it lands for me. I am hoping this was just mishandled on the VS team's account and we hear a followup soon about it?

Vies Well maybe it's just lowering my settings lead to the FPS fluctuations not being as noticeable in gameplay, because looking at the graph in game I'm still getting them. I took some screenshots this time. https://imgur.com/a/YVa5ulw After that I tried turning HUD Clock off and it did not make a different. The reason I thought of this mod was that I started noticing FPS drops while exploring not long after I first got magic unlocked and "rustboundmagic.src.client.HudPlayerCastBarRM" being the top item in the tick logger. I do have a lot of other mods on though. If I could turn the Rustbound Magic HUD off individually I could see for sure.

Well that's sad

"Honestly the constant complaining about them just turned me off from pursuing anything further with creatures for now. As of now this includes bosses, mounts, and minions."

I actually like all the elemental mobs I've seen, and they're a nice source of resources, they just needed a different (or known?) spawn mechanic.  
Actually having them passive unless disturbed has been ok... can you make them peaceful until attacked, but get agitated near rifts?

Thanks for the update anyway 👍

Ah, well thank you for getting back to me RemyDuron about this. It is hard to tell how the game settings interacts with things like huds. 

Vies I was looking at the FPS graph available in game, and it was going up and down significantly on each pixel. Though now I no longer have that issue. I only thought about this mod because the "castbar" was always listed as the top item in the ingame ticklogger, but this doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I did adjust my settings due to some other performance issues, lowering shadows from high to medium and lower the particles to 50%, which didn't seem to make a big difference at the time but now I'm not seeing the rapidly fluctuating FPS anymore. I should have taken screenshots when I was having the issue, sorry.

I further nerfed the sentry spawn chance in the new update I just pushed out. 

RemyDuron  How are you specifically checking fps on that HUD? If I know of a decent way to test it I can see what I can do about it. Thank you.

Seeing as I'm not the only one annoyed with flying enemys I shall share what I did to solve that for me...
not sure if something else breaks, but thus far it wörks for me...
file is in: VintagestoryData\Mods\rustboundmagic_2.3.1.zip\assets\rustboundmagic\entities\creatures\elementals\sentry
open the file within with an text editor and change these things:

I do find the flying elementals pretty annoying to deal with, the ground elementals are all okay. i'd like the spawn of flying ones reduced, or even set to spawning at specific periods or even tied to weather or specific places.

is there a way to get a slow pasive mana regen?

Yeah can confirm that rustbound magic and Kemono are incompatable, as others have pointed out, it's due to the rustbound sickness, would be really nice to have this patched if possible. :)

It seems the mana bar and magic xp bar is causing my fps to be pretty unstable, it's frequently the top listed thing in the tick logger and when my UI is on my FPS zips up and down rapidly. UI off and it is stable. Could a hotkey be added to hide or show the UI? That would be a nice relative quick fix for the issue.

Personally I don't mind the elementals, and think their spawn rate is fine, however! I do think that the ranged ones should not be the default. I also wouldn't mind if we had the ability to configure how abundant they are.

Flying and ranged is an annoying combo to deal with, as they can pester you without warning and from afar. I also think that perhaps a bit of added ambient noise should be added to them, as I think the current noises they make are a bit too subtle, especially with how easily they can sneak up on you.

I did a little test and the magic mobs seem to respect `/worldconfig creatureHostility passive`.  
It mean no creatures are a threat, but at least I can get established now and reset it later.  

way too many sentries spawning. came across 3 within five minutes of spawn on a new world. Don't see an option to reduce their chances anywhere either.

Vies there does not seem to be a setting in the config for the enemies that spawn, and I am too ignorant of modding to add one.

I'm in the stone age, just started on a house today, and I finally got a rusty dust so I could start on magic! Unfortunately I have these drones and sentries and things spawning everywhere constantly and nuking me at range, I can't even finish my roof... So yeah an update or advice on toning these down would be nice.

it warms might heart to see this mod back up to the current version and the increased integration of yet more delightfully complex thaumcraft inspired elements. Kudos to the great Vies for the continued hard work on this project.

Fochodin
I have the same issue, troubleshooted a bit and it seems the kemono mod was the reason for this error. I assume that the "Rust Sickness" is ment to be visible somewhere on the player character, but the kemono either doesn't have it or changed it to the point that it'll crash the game should you get this effect.

Remove the elementals and replace them with something else, please. They ruin the whole mod! Ther problem isn't spawn rate, or distance, or amount. The problem is that there is an endlessly spawning enemy that can spawn anywhere at any time. If you are outside, you are at risk of being atacked by one of them. Even when they aren't attacking me, they are ruining the scenery by spawning out of nowhere and flying around, looking completely out of place. You could make it so elementals have to be summoned somehow. A device made with early game materials, when used on a rust portal, will turn it into an elemental portal anc cause it to summon elementals. Maybe instead make elementals only spawn in certain places in order to force the player to explore the world. Anything is better than making them spawnanywhere

Hi Vies, it seems there is a problem with the grimoir synthesis in the latest version 2.3.3. I tried to create "Plunder III" and "Prosperity" grimoires but both times the process got stuck right after I trew the xegonite stones: instead of asking for seraphic arcanuses, the pedestal had a piece of rot floating above it. Throwing rot into the portal didn't advanced the process, nor throwing the arcanuses listed in the recipe....

Also, how one gets moonstone/bloodstone? The guide says that these are condensed light/dark essense, but how do we condense?

Is Heart of harmony obtaineable in survival?

How can I reduce the spawn rate of Sentry enemies? There are way too many for my servers liking. 

edit: I know I'll have to edit .json, but which .json will I be editing? (Sorry for the dumb question, I'm relatively new to modding) 

Also, thanks so much for your hard work on this mod. I absolutely love it and had so much fun in our 1.19.8 server. Can't wait to see all the improvements.

So I'm having issues getting started? I'm very new to this in depth mod stuff, and unfortunately all of the clay is busted? I don't have any of the recipes I'm seeing other people use to get a lot of the more in depth material generation going. I may have an old version, I'm seeing the updates rolling in, have we already solved this problem?

Hello,

It would seem that I have an issue with this mod when dying. For some reason whenever I die, the game crashes with the following error:

Running on 64 bit Windows 10.0.19045.0 with 32711 MB RAM
Game Version: v1.20.4 (Stable)
27.2.2025. 20:32:11: Critical error occurred in the following mod: rustboundmagic@2.3.3
Loaded Mods: aculinaryartillery@1.2.3, ancientarmory@1.0.6, canoemod@1.0.2, chiseltools@1.14.12, driedpeat@1.0.3, fantasycreatures@0.7.1, fixedpaths@1.0.2, hangingoillamps@1.0.3, indappledgroves@2.0.5, MoreTorchHolders@1.0.0, primitivesurvival@3.7.5, sortablestorage@2.2.9, terraprety@6.0.1, game@1.20.4, wforests@1.0.0-dev.1, apegrapes@1.2.6, awearablelight@1.1.31, betterruins@0.4.7, butchering@1.8.1, chestorganizer@1.1.1, commonlib@2.6.1, composter@1.2.0, expandedfoods@1.7.4, floatingfish@1.0.1, foodshelves@1.5.3, kemono@0.0.23, kevinsfurniture@1.6.3, moreanimals@1.4.1, morepiles@2.1.0, oneroof@1.8.2, claywheel@1.1.2, rustboundmagic@2.3.3, SoundOfConfession@1.0.4, stonebakeoven@1.1.6, stonerailings@1.3.0, tabletopgames@2.9.0, creative@1.20.4, vsinstrumentsbase@2.0.1, survival@1.20.4, xlib@0.8.13, campaigncartographer@4.3.2, em@3.0.1, playercorpse@1.11.0, wkfa@0.0.3, xskills@0.8.14
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at rustboundmagic.src.system.perceptioneffects.RustSicknessPerceptionEffect.ApplyToTpPlayer(EntityPlayer entityPlr, Single[] modelMatrix, Nullable`1 playerIntensity) in C:\Users\Vies\Documents\GitHub\Mods-VintageStoryNet7\Mod-RustboundMagic\rustboundmagic\src\system\perceptioneffects\RustSicknessPerceptionEffect.cs:line 116
at Vintagestory.API.Client.PerceptionEffects.ApplyToTpPlayer(EntityPlayer entityPlr, Single[] modelMatrix, Nullable`1 playerIntensity) in VintagestoryApi\Client\Render\PerceptionEffects\PerceptionEffects.cs:line 93
at Vintagestory.GameContent.EntityPlayerShapeRenderer.loadModelMatrixForPlayer(Entity entity, Boolean isSelf, Single dt, Boolean isShadowPass) in VSEssentials\EntityRenderer\EntityPlayerShapeRenderer.cs:line 313
at Vintagestory.GameContent.EntityPlayerShapeRenderer.DoRender3DOpaque(Single dt, Boolean isShadowPass) in VSEssentials\EntityRenderer\EntityPlayerShapeRenderer.cs:line 167
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemRenderEntities.OnRenderFrameShadows(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Render\RenderEntities.cs:line 174
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ClientEventManager.cs:line 188
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.MainRenderLoop(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 825
at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToPrimary(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 161
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 695
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 670
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 88
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 334
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 130
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

I started playing this game only recently so I dont know completely what is going on but it would appear that Rust Sickness tries to apply to the player and that crashes the game.

edit: after further debugging it would seem that this is an issue with kemono mod. is there a way to turn off the rust sickness that is applied to the character when they die?

Thank you

Dackstrus  Glad it works better! If you have ideas, join the discord (link at the top) and pitch the ideas there. We got a pretty active community!

Asket  I am kind of suprised to have someone complain about too many updates. At the top in important notes I have "Anything is subject to change with feedback! <3". The mod isn't finished. I have more to add and things to change. I do not force everyone to update and anyone can read the changelogs to see what changed before using an update. I take the time to list out everything in detail in the changelogs and it takes a lot of time so people can choose to update or not. Just know if you do not update, I don't want to hear about issues either! XD

As for the resonator, there is only 1 now, the eldrathium one. Has 250 durability instead of 100, no more need to resonator swap when connecting stations or crafting, uncoupled from the ingame progression (people can sprint to steel in literally a day of gameplay), and the recipes for eldrathium and other stuff got cheaper. Those are wins all around. You also mention the mod being grindy on resources, I make these changes to help fix that. I don't think anyone is complaining anymore about resources as of the current update, and those that did, when they realized how great things like rift anchors were, changed their tune really quick!

Live updates are a bit harsh to players who are using this mod to play on their long-run survival worlds, I should say.

For example, today I found out that my Copper Resonator is no longer working. What's the idea behind removing all versions of resonators expept Eldrathium one? The mod is already grindy on resourse part...

Sorry for the rant, keep up the good work, overall the progress past year is impressive.

That seems to have fixed my problem with selecting and using the transmog stones. Thank you!

Love the mod, i'm still playing through it, but i have some ideas if you don't mind. 

An upgraded rune/multiblock of warding for permanent settlements or places. Can see using multiple celestial/devouring/obelisks to keep it running, some base multi-block structure with the rune overlaid to activate it.

Or conversly a single block that connects to others next to it to build a "wall" against mobs that they can't walk over.

I also like the idea of building some big array to pour mana and essence into crops.

....I just like making big multiblock arrays to help do important things.

Edit: I see the greenhouse and wall blocks, haha, guess you're ahead of me there. Though something to improve plants grow speed or yield would be nice.

MaiaK Only creatures you should use are drone, sentry, and ravager. If you try to spawn the other, which are bosses I will be spawning in a new world, you will wrech your worlds. The are going to be very destructive.

SkyArcane You need to update the mod, use the newest version. Only takes rusty dust, shifting fibers, and rot. Fixed that a bit ago.

Vies I see that I can make on thaumic workbench eldrathium bits, but I need rustic compound and that needs eldrathium resonator to craft. So back to squere one, I'm still stuck. If there is a way I can't find it in survival book or manual of magic arts

oh no don't worry friend I'm not asking you to officially do it, I'm just avalling myself of their config file, it's just that VS modding is new to me and I don't quite understand the syntax. By the way, I think I figured it out by trial and error and bruteforce, I added "elementalsentry-EntitySentryRM-*" for all the sentries (and one for drones and ravagers) and it seems to work just fine to allow them spawn! As I'm not quite far into the mod, do the other elementals (sentinels, colossi, titans) spawn naturally, or are they instanced to some particular event? Should I not mess with their spawn conditions in the config? I also did "elementalsentinel-EntitySentinelFireRM-*" (and the other elements too) since it seems the syntax of the sentinels is different from the other three above and I don't quite understand how to parse it, but I don't think I've seen any of them around.

(and incidentally, was the drop rate of elemental crystals nerfed recently, or am I just unlucky? I swear I was playing on a server a week or so ago and we would get an elemental crystal basically every sentry, but now in my SP I very rarely see one)

@Parible Not sure what to say, downloaded fine for me.

@DeviousDoge In the 2.3.3 update I tried to add an extra call to sync the rust sickness debuff. Let's see how that works.

@MaiaK Not going to get much help on this, I don't do integrations. The last bit I did was for CO and it just about drove me to MC. The string there looks right as long as it doesn't also need the domain. That could default to game: unless specified maybe?

@Tolker Thanks, I will look at it.

@Dackstrus No idea there. I did redo the transmog interactions with updated tooltips. Try it now maybe?

@AcidNight No idea what you are getting at with configuring or writing.

@SkyArcane Anything a crucible can make you can make in the thaumic workbench. Look up the eldrathium bits in the survivial handbook.

@Mollycoddle Try editing the json or make a patch. Just be careful.

Is it possible to decrease the spawn rate of the flying enemies?

Now I enjoy the mod and all things it has, but I can't figure out how to craft crucible, it needs eldrathium resonator, and he needs eldrathium ingot that can be crafted in crucible setup acording to manual of magic arts... Am I missing something or I need something else for it?

Vies

hello, I'm looking to test the "keystone gateway", I don't know what it is xD but it's impossible to configure it because we don't know how to write

If I creative in the tea, it works, if I brew it in a barrel (made a new batch with new seeds in a new barrel just to be sure) it doesn't work.

Edit: Nevermind, it's a container issue. odd because it worked out of jugs and bottles before the update, but oh well. guess I'll keep a bucket on hand for it.

After the last update riftbloom tea seems to have stopped working for me. I drink it, the hunger meter goes down, but I don't loose stability nor do i get the regen.

I can't seem to pick transmog options with the gems, which is stopping me from using them. Not sure if it's just my modset, or if anyone else is having the same problem.

ok aparently it did not like being made on top of my house :/ i just made it with it being on the ground *shrugs*

well it said everything was fine to go when i tried to do it :/

@jamescook Right click the rune with the chalk when crouching, that usually tells you if there is an issue with the setup

for some reason i can't get the ritual of world essence to work and i know i'm doing everything right

I am having issues with the telekenisis spell. if Items are dropped it doesnt bring them to the character or the selected block. It also doesnt get tools from walls so I am unsure as to what it is supposed to bring towards the player or what the item entities state should be to bring them.

Hi! Can I request your assistance? I'm trying to add the sentinel and other magical entities to the whitelist of the Biomes mod, so that they will be allowed to spawn anywhere. However I don't quite understand how the syntax works. I've tried simply adding "elementalsentry-*" as a creature in the whitelist (this has worked for other creatures from other mods), but even after hours, I can't confirm having seen any natural spawn whatsoever. I know this is only tangentially related to you but I'm not quite sure how to approach this, could you help me? Thank you!

Whenever I get Rift Sickness, my screen seems to get stuck with a lingering bloom after it wears off that lasts until I restart my game. Odd bug, not sure exactly if this mod is at fault, but just wanted to give a heads up.

Tried to direct download v2.3.2 rustbound magic and windows defender said it's Trojan 32bit bearfoo, Severe, it stops the download everytime and now i can't download v2.3.2 windows isn't letting me, not sure if this is normal and hopefully it is but for now i'm going to play VS without the mod for awhile.

Zach2039 What did you change there? I can modify it so that it is baseline. Looked at ensureConditionExists in ItemWearable, just no time for the next couple of days to test. Shoot me a discord DM if you get the time, thanks!

unfortunately i have been unable to get this mod to function, keeps crshing the game upon generating a world.

Wearing armor when using this mod is causing a stutter to occur every several seconds, both in singleplayer and multiplayer; I've confirmed with one other on the private server that they experience the issue as well. I've adjusted VSync settings to no avail, and confirmed that removing Rustbound Magic in particular fixes the issue. I experience this issue on an AMD card, while the other user is experiencing similar on an NVIDIA card. Right now, we are running a plethora of mods. I will try to install only Rustbound Magic to see if it persists, or if there is a compatibility issue with something else.

EDIT: Looks to be an issue with Warm Armor, maybe related to the patching on ensureConditionExists that links warmth stat of armor to condition. I'll explore further if there is something I can do on my end to prevent the stutter.

EDIT2: I've fixed Warm Armor to mark slots dirty only when the condition for armor actually changes. This removes most of the stutter when running Rustbound Magic. I can look into it further at some point, but this band-aid fix will work for now.

I am not too worried about that. You have flowers and stones to use until you get on your feet with a resonator.

Another issue is that resonators not being available early removes the ability to make the rift anchors, also limiting materials early

Good catch Falco I will change that recipe too. Thanks!

There is a problem with getting eldrathium bits as there is a circular dependency.

It needs rustic compounds.

Rustic compounds need a resonator.

The resonator needs eldrathium.

v2.3.1 fixes the eldrathium bits recipe.

Vies

hello, how do you get eldrathium as needed for the resonator I can't find a craft ><

Loving this mod!  Thanks for all the hard work on it Vies!

Also, thanks for continuing to tweak the sentry and drone spawns and behavior; I felt like I needed to wait to start with learning magic until I got to around the vanilla midgame because they do so much damage unless you've got some mage armor equipped.  Even shields do next to nothing to mitigate them.

finally updated, and sentry spawns are still MUCH too common, im still constantly under attack by simply being outside around my house

Hi Vies, it seems that none of the lacrimas are working in the latest version 2.2.7... When put in the generator nothing happens and pushing the pull/push buttons has no effect. I tried both with a partially filled light lacrima and with an empty neutral one. The handbook still states that the generators must be turned off in order for the lacrimas to work, but one can no longer turn them off.

Love the mod. Reminds me of Outward, making you actively have to work to obtain magic. Such a detailed mod and feels vanilla, hats off to you, truly! I have been progressing along with obtaining magic, and i have to say that like some others, i agree the spawn rate of elementals is a bit high. My base has a few outdoor areas, but ive surrounded it in high walls, but these elementals just fly right over and blast me haha! I'd say i consistently get attacked every 3-5 minutes. I love fighting them, but I have just entered the copper age, and they tend to do HIGH damage. I am not yet equipped to handle them in such high swarms. I even moved my forge inside :D  Maybe I am crazy, but early on I used to see elementals, but they were rarely hostile until I got mana. But now they are after me lucky charms!

I havent dived very deep into the mod yet so forgive me if im missing something, but is there a way to reduce the amount of them that spawn, or make them less aggro?

Appreciate you and what you do for the modding community! Thanks

I have been getting a lot of messages about spawning. It seems like people are using my old versions of the mod. Please make sure you are using the newest version of my mod please. Many QoL updates have been released.

Also this mod is designed to take time. I have said this numerous times in numerous places. That being said, I am currently talking with players about ideas in my Discord to redesign the way you get through magic tiers, including resource acquisition and costs.

@TheEnemyCube Me too, it is really triggering my OCD pretty hard. lol

@Buggi Glad you like it! It took a pretty big chunk of effort, and I very much dislike documentation, but I think it was worth the effort.

@Wilfrey Glad you are liking it, I am pitching ideas in my Discord now about this stuff. Got a lot of options for sure. As for the powerful stuff, that is just the way things can go sometimes. Sadly it just comes down to time. I have limited time and other things I want to add that I know most people will want, so those big flashy spells and rituals take a back seat.

@Admiral_Zander I was wondering about the mod version more, I assume you are on 1.20.X if you are using the rewrite. The thing is mods take up CPU cycles and RAM, add a game that is still being optimized and has memory leaks of its own, you can have issues. I run an i9 with an RTX 4070 and I still had to play with the game's setting to help it run better and do some restarts. This isn't MC where it has had years of optimization to be able to take a huge amount of mods and still flex, and magic does more checks than most mods.

@Ixon Glad you like it! That was definitely my inspiration for sure.

@TheCacklackian It could be that the area is too narrow. It only does checks for that little 9x9 area, nothing outside of it. I could consider expanding that.

@Admonitor I know what you are talking about in the json, it doesn't do what you think it does. You will just make them spawn also in areas where neutral creatures spawn too. And they will still attack if you get too close.

@Elance That is all good, can't make everyone happy.

I love this mod, but I have to agree with some of the feedback mentioned below.

Firstly, sentries are an absolutely annoying enemy. They wander extremely far, have a fairly fast fly speed both passively and in combat, aggro from a pretty hefty distance, and on top of that are almost perfectly silent except for the occasional 'crumbling earth' sound they make for some reason (inb4 skill issue). We rarely die to sentries but they make our day-to-day lives all the less enjoyable for everyone.

I should fairly note that the ground-based guardians have been much less annoying to deal with, as they are both slower and don't seem to aggro as much. They also seem to spawn less often.

I enjoy having an outdoor forge with a roof over my head, but every other smithing session is interrupted by 1 or 4 of these things and it just... gets extremely annoying. I get that there are rituals to help stop them from spawning, but I'm hosting a server with multiple people and we've kinda spread out a bit to have a more 'village-like' feeling to our properties. Having to run these rituals, which are locked behind actually progressing in magic research (which most of my players don't have much interest in) really turns me away from an otherwise amazing and complex mod.

I also have to mirror the concerns about item crafting requirements. In 20 hours of progression with 4 people killing sentries to defend themselves, I only really got enough stuff to make an apprentice staff and chalk to start doing rituals. The spell wands feel extremely lackluster, and a bow or spear seem to outpace the combat-oriented ones in every tier, especially when dealing with sentries.

Making sentries spawn only near magical influences (like rift artifacts, rustblooms, and ritual blocks) would probably alleviate 95% of my concerns. Doing so would, however, exacerbate the poor resource management game of needing large amounts of items to do anything.

Thank you for making this mod. I had a lot of fun with most of its aspects, but unfortunately I'm going to have to remove it from my modlist for now.

Hello, when looking up how to cut the small elementals' spawn chance a bit, I got the idea of just making them neutral to the player, or blind to not seek the player actively. I found some code that suggested it might do what I think, but I am too afraid to change random values. Could you tell me what to tweak to make them neutral or blind? Thank you <3

Any advice for making use of the ritual of the orebringer? Most of the time it seems like I'll spend the time clearing out a 9x9 area, setting up the ritual, and burning the 4 fragments to cast it at teir 2, and fail to extract anything, even in high coverage areas.

this really gives off those old school minecraft magic mod vibes. Those were some good old days for sure.

im currently using the 1.20.3 version. i have a few other mods on, but the issue didnt show up until this mod was added Vies

Big fan of the mod so far, I can really feel the influences of the great oldies of Minecraft in it, while still being its own thing! I do wish Rusty Dust was easier to get, or could be made easier later somehow. Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I'm more or less bottlenecked entirely by Rusty Dust and can't really get farther yet because of it.

Vies I think it's a crying shame that server admins wanting to turn some of the more powerful stuff off by default is discouraging you from some of those rituals, I don't think they're needed to enjoy the mod, but I'd absolutely love having that kind of power as an end goal. Maybe having it off on servers by default or putting a warning label on the mod's (potential) power level somewhere up top on the mod page could alleviate some of the inevitable headache? Idk, I just hate seeing such cool ideas not reach daylight because people installed a magic mod and didn't expect it to have powerful magic in it somewhere. Especially with Thaumcraft and Ars Magica 2 as inspirations, what's the fun of Thaumaturgy if you don't have the looming threat of ruining existence in a five mile radius hanging over the non-Thaumaturges? Gotta keep em scared! (Definitely not an evil Lich in a tower on our server)

I would love to implement a similar quest book-style feature for Vintage Engineering. Great job on this mod.

Vies Darn, hopefully 1.20'll fix that soon in that case.

TheEnemyCube I showed on a previous stream that this is a 1.20 thing. Same thing happens when I throw clay out in the world. I even tried to change it on stream, and it zeros out all offsets for select items. Nothing I can do about that.

Admiral_Zander What version are you using? 

causes gme to constantly freeze and crash when mod is loaded, especially when hosting online multiplayer. and elemental sentries are MUCH too common, im getting attacked around my home every minute by these things

It seems like several of the items in this mod don't have proper 'on the ground' positions for when they're dropped. Assuming this isn't a mod conflict, a lot of items' models phase through the floor, making it really difficult to harvest riftbloom fields since the dust and fibers disappear into the ground until walked over, and as I was thinking this comment over, I tabbed back into the game to realize I had dropped my apprentice staff and couldn't find it to save my life for the exact same reason as the dust/fibers.

Kyubiko  I am glad you found it. You are not the only one who was confused by this. The recipe in the survival handbook was 100% working as intended, sadly it is a case of too much of a good thing going wrong. You have 4 pattern types with 9 colors each. While looking at the cycling mageweave types, you had a 1/9 chance to see the regular mageweave types. Easy to miss. 

I changed the recipe to only accept plain mageweave for the next update.

Vies What would the next step be after unlocking your magic be? The book seems to suggest making a Thaumic Workbench but it seems to require one to be able to make the parts for it. I'm probably being stupid, but I I have no clue what to do next as the book doesn't tell me anything new past "Peer through the veil" and "Rift Interaction" and any of the Ancient Markers/Pylons I've come across say unable to research when looking at them.

Edit - I have discovered the issue, for some reason the recipe for the Thaumic Workbench in-game was only showing imbued Mageweave, but the files are saying regular is fine. I apologise for the inconvenience.

wojtek16  Not a problem! Hope it works out!

thatKazzy  Glad you got that working. It is weird that this happens. Maybe someday it will all just iron itself out.

GypsyOne  I already have patches in to even make these mods work together. The rates were suggested by people in the Discord. I don't use CO at all, so idk much about them. You can try editing the patches in the mod, or hopping in discord and suggest the new rates.

Kyubiko AuthorOfSin  If you have a manabar, you have access to magic. I suggest you both make the 'Manual of Magical Arts'. I tell you to do this in the moddb page -> Getting Started section and in the ingame survival handbook guide -> Rustbound Magic: Quick Start Guide. Follow each achievement, read up on the guides in that book, and you will be on your way to doing magic. If someone made videos, just make sure the are from the 2.X.X version and up.

Kyubiko

I have the same issue, actually. I've been watching a ton of videos on how to progress but I can't do the steps they're depicting.

I have an issue where unlocking the magic only grants tier 1 and nothing else. No recipies, no rituals, no way to actually continue progressing. It doesn't even list what's researchable or not. I'm assuming this is a bug since I've seen videos where people unlock transmutation when unlocking tier 1 but I cannot figure out whats wrong.

Not a question about this mod per se, but asking around to try and find an answer sooner.

Does anyone know of a patch for this mod with Combat Overhaul or able to tell me how to change a config somewhere in regards to the penalty stats on this mod's robes? It seems like Combat Overhaul is assigning them the same penalties as plate armor as some sort of default, which makes wearing them really prohibitive.

Vies Thank you! Worked like a charm, now I just gotta get over being a noob lol. 

To follow up on the issue of disappearing progress, I reverted to 2.2.4 and recreated the book manually using creative. Had to recreate achievements one by one. I switched the magic multiplier to 0.01 which started getting me mana out of nowhere. I then ascended on the crucible normally. The icons didn't change, it still shows tier 1 with ascension possible. I then levelled up my mana exp to where I had it before using the same trick, reverted the multiplier and so far it seems alright - I'm able to create rituals of tier 2 (though I could cast tier 2 spells before, so dunno). We'll see once it comes time for tier 3, if that goes through.

Sounds good with me, will give it a test and see, thank you again! :)

thatKazzy  Seems like the mod didn't fully load if it didn't have access to that asset. I double-checked and see it is definitely in there, and I was able to see it in the guidebook while testing. Way want to remove the mod and put it back in to wake it up. Some people seem to have issues like this and it is usually the game itself having some kind of issue.

Admonitor  Glad you are liking the mod. You can either edit the json file for the elementals to change the spawn chance, or whip up a patch to lower it. From the feedback I got form discord, people seem to like the new spawn rates.

Grontage  Yeah I try to add a lot of configs to let people pick and choose how they want their experience to be. I worked up 2 different ways I can change what magic tier is and decouple it from the copper/iron/steel way I have it now. I will be sharing these approaches in my Discord to get feedback. Either way will make resources feel better utilized and make tier 1 grimoires an easier to jump into.

The problem with making spells to do powerful things like changing weather, day/night, time speed/slowdown, rift activity, trigger temporal storm, etc is that when I pitched those ideas, server owners automatically reply with "you can disable that, right?". I don't want to spend time making stuff that people want off by default. Admittedly it would be easy to grief others with some of that stuff.

Deceti  The shiver and bowtorn need a bit of tuning. I think I actually moved that unlock magic bar to 10% or less now to make it a bit easier. Thinking about it, it may not be reflected in the 4 places I touch on the topic...

wojtek16  No idea honestly. I know for the base game 1.20.3 and 4 are not compatible, but when building the mod against each one, I didn't have anything to really change. It all just worked. I think some people are running my newest version with 1.20.3. Just know that is something is really weird, I am not going to troubleshoot things against 1.20.3. :)

IvanZS  It would be an inert mana lantern (survival handbook) and use the infusion ritual to get it lit.

Call me an idiot but I can't identify what catalyst should I use in order to get a mana lantern, even in creative? In the handbook it just says that it is created through infusion...

just a question on compatibility with versions, do the 1.20.4 version work with 1.20.3? If so would it be possible to add them into the world? I know 1.20.4 has had some changes, so just wanted to check! Wanting to try the magical adventures, beautiful mod!

I like the concept but... Myself and a mate tried this just now. Our experience is, cant even activate a rift to start on the journey without being immediately slaughtered by up to 4 nightmare/corrupt bowtorn as soon as the temporal gear drops to zero. still having stone spears and no armour this was not good at all. May try it again later when we stand a chance to survive (didnt help that in the temporally depleted state I could NOT see the bowtorn for the life of me, only knew they were there when they "twanged" twice and i was dead.

I can't reccomend enough looking at the modconfig .json if you're going "god this seems impossible." A lot can be changed, and a configuration of droprates of rusty crustals/seeds as well as bumping down the essence and reagent costs changes the experience quite a bit. This isn't a mod that feels easy to try and use alone, but... nothing in this game seems possible to do alone. I don't know how anyone does without using several console commands or jacking up resource gains. I like it that way, to be honest. That it's a huge pain in the ass to, like... do anything in this game is a lot of its charm.

As for how long it takes to start castin' spells with your staff, I almost feel like... that's not the most interesting magic in the mod. I like it, but the rituals are super interesting and are the type of magic I've always wanted to see more in games. I'd love to see more rituals, especially for the really powerful magical spells that any wizard fan knows of. Changing the weather, for example. Making areas of high temporal stability through rituals is something I'd love to see, too, or group buffs or changing block types or all sorts of fun things. There's already the ritual of warding, which is a wonderful idea, and the group's wizard honestly being outclassed in combat by weapons but able to do so many other things is how I feel it should be. If only combat overhaul didn't break everything else...

I know Vies is literally working on the mod every day and doesn't need more ideas, but I love the rituals. I've been playing for a while and still can't cast spells with my staff, but I feel like a mage because I'm constantly making magic circles to do stuff.

We're not ver far into it yet, but we're loving the mod so far! My friends are a little annoyed by the coonstant ambushes by the sentries though. Any way to tweak their spawns? Like reduce them by 50% to make them a little less common.

Just lost all progress on a 93hr save when updating to 2.2.5. Everything is "beyond my comprehension" as if I never started. The manual is completely locked out.

Mystry it's not just you, and I've faced this frustration (and voiced it) while playing the mod. Everything costs a ridiculous amount - in rare drops, in magic experience, in time. Essence gathering is extremely slow, spellmaking is extremely slow. Feels like you need to make a bunch of industries to just support a single mage - and I don't mean "get flax", I mean "get industrial amounts of it per mage". In my 90 hr save, I only focused on magic and later on (around hr 70) changed most of the settings on rituals, experience etc, I ended up with Fireball I, Fireball II, two buff spells and Growth I (which turns out is a total waste, but apparently getting reworked down the line). Most of that was gotten after a setting change, by using creative to give back resources from past rituals for runestones (which eat up a ton of arcanus / primal arcanus).

This is currently not a mod to play when you have 5hrs to play Vintage Story a week.

Mystry  I disagree with your view on the grind. We may be playing differently, but I don't have these issues.

1.) I don't have a leather working farm. I kill some animals, grab a few barrels, harvest some riftblooms, and play around with resources. The biggest issue with me is that it takes 2 leather and 8 parchments for the grimoires. I often process shifting fibers into pulp to get my paper and process the leather. When my riftbloom farm is big enough, I rake in the materials.

2.) Riftblooms live on almost any soil and requires nothing but time. Do not waste farmland on them, they will not appreciate it. :D

3) I kill these things as either a rust mage or clockmaker with basic stone spears and no armor. Not sure what to say about that. You may have high ping on your server?

4) I get my rot from either my food naturally decomposing OR the ritual of destruction: rot. Look that up in the guidebook.

Material grind is something I am balancing, but with growing rust crystals from rifts/barrels, shouldn't be as bad. I also added things like a way to clear a bad spell cipher roll to get your runic scroll back to save materials. I also don't think having people work for runestones to upgrade what they have is asking a lot either. If anyone wants to change options, I suggest looking in the configs first. You have a lot of power there. If not, whip up a patch or 2 to change stuff in the json.

IvanZS  This should be fixed. I had lesser reap registered as the wrong tier and if you were unlucky enough, it would try to make a scroll out of it and crash, because there is no scroll or grimoire for those weaker lesser spells. lol

GypsyOne  I do agree here. We play the same I think. :D

Falco  Maybe in the guidebook, but the crucible is kind of experimental. It was my way of trying to make creating some things feel magical and more efficient. I have ideas on other ways to do this too. The things you can make are all arcanus, eldrathium bits, and elemental crystals, though the elemental crystals will be removed soon since I have the other way to get them.

@GypsyOne You haven't actually played it, have you? I ask because if you had, you'd know that the drones have enough attack range to hit you even with a spear, and the sentries shoot ranged attacks at you. From the air. Sure, you can maybe kill one or even two if you're really good and just tank the hits, but now you're low health with little means of recovering your HP (outside of sleeping) since bandages require linen. So you've just sacrificed most of your HP and rendered you vulnerable to hostile mobs killing you if any come across you, for two kills which equates to one arcanus, (since you get one crystal per, in my experience). You need tin bronze gear minimum in order to GRIND the mobs and kill them with any means of efficiency, which you'll need if you're going to get the huge quantities of crystals that you have to gather to even get started on things. Furthermore, the difficulty in rustblooms isn't the space, but rather the fact that its basically a second required linen farm set up in a different form, except you can only get seeds by praying that converted flowers drop a seed at a rift; though rift anchors REALLY help with this, I will admit. And yes, it is egregious to require parchment, because it means either you have to have a linen set up all ready and good to go from the very start (which normally would signal mid-game because once you have that going that means you can make a windmill) OR set up an animal farm which signals the same. It's not the copper for the shears that's the problem. The problem is that it requires large quantities of linen or small animal hides, and the amount required for even one grimoire is huge. And remember, making a cipher isn't where it stops. You also have to turn it into a grimoire, which is another 8 parchment on top of that which you used to make the cipher.

At the end of the day, the mechanics and huge resource requirements and investments greatly skew the progression in one direction, and not in a good way. To even get started you have to have a ton of things set up. Now I can understand if the above requirements and others are necessary for mid or late game spells and magic stuff, but for the very first absolute basic tier 1 spells? It seems out of whack for that.

Is there a list of recipes for the crucible? The only info I could find in the handbook is: "Add an item with the catalyst attribute", but there is no way to search for that in the handbook, nor does it tell you what will happen if you put a specific one in or what is required for the completion of the recipe.

Mystry I'd hate to be rude, but really?

No you don't need "tin bronze gear minimum" to kill drones/sentries, they die to a pointy rock on a stick the same as most things on the surface. Both can be kited with a spear, sentries especially, so I'm not seeing the "requirement" of having armor. They drop enough materials and spawn freqently enough that I myself had wands before even touching copper.

Having a space set aside for Rustblooms isn't exactly difficult? They grow on dirt, sand or gravel, and care about nothing else than the passage of time and the occasional nearby rift.

As for making spell ciphers, is it really that egregious a requirement to make parchment? At minimum needing copper to make a saw and some shears to process small pelts.

Again I'd hate to be rude, but this all sounds like a you problem. I don't think you're meant to blaze through the mod's progression in a couple of sessions, and that's more than fine. You're playing Vintage Story, should be par for the course.

@Vies Hi! I just got this crash when attempted to break an ancient artifact within a rift:

17.2.2025 г. 10:38:56 ч.: Critical error occurred in the following mod: rustboundmagic@2.2.4
Loaded Mods: advancedsmithing@1.4.0, angelbelt@1.6.0, arrowheadsrecovery@1.0.1, backpackpackpluscontinued@1.0.0, betterarchery@3.0.0, bettercrates@1.8.0, chiseltools@1.14.11, extrachests@1.9.0, FlexibleTools@3.3.1, hudrealtimeclock@1.0.0, icensaltchest@0.0.2, millwright@1.1.8, qptech@1.15.3, speararrowheadbits@1.1.0, sticksarefirewood@1.0.0, tptools@0.3.0, veganmilksimplified@1.0.1, game@1.20.4, betterbloomeriesreborn@1.0.5, betterjonasdevicesfixed@2.0.2, carryon@1.8.0-pre.1, commonlib@2.6.1, fromgoldencombs@1.8.11-rc.6, myfixes@1.0.0, rustboundmagic@2.2.4, transrod@0.1.0, vtpp@1.1.1, creative@1.20.4, survival@1.20.4, stonequarry@3.4.3
System.Exception: Can't create itemstack without item!
at Vintagestory.API.Common.ItemStack..ctor(Item item, Int32 stacksize) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Collectible\ItemStack.cs:line 225
at rustboundmagic.src.common.block.BlockStationAncientArtifactRM.OnBlockBroken(IWorldAccessor world, BlockPos pos, IPlayer byPlayer, Single dropQuantityMultiplier) in C:\Users\Vies\Documents\GitHub\Mods-VintageStoryNet7\Mod-RustboundMagic\rustboundmagic\src\common\block\station\BlockStationAncientArtifactRM.cs:line 382
at Vintagestory.API.Common.CollectibleObject.OnBlockBrokenWith(IWorldAccessor world, Entity byEntity, ItemSlot itemslot, BlockSelection blockSel, Single dropQuantityMultiplier) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Collectible\Collectible.cs:line 586
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.OnPlayerTryDestroyBlock(BlockSelection blockSelection) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 1703
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.ContinueBreakSurvival(BlockSelection blockSelection, Block block, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 760
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.HandleMouseInteractionsBlockSelected(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 617
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.OnFinalizeFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 85
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ClientEventManager.cs:line 188
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 992
at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 242
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 695
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 670
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 88
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 334
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 130
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

Earlier in the session I did broke another ancient thingy without a problem, so I suppose the problem is rooted in the item that was attempted to be spawned...

I really like this mod. I think it's one of the best ones around.

But I do have to say that the grind for it is kind of ridiculous. Just to even get started with anything beyond the most basic of wands (which themselves require at the bare minimum tin bronze to kill sentries/drones for crystals), you have to have:
1. Leatherworking set up, which itself practically requires animal farms to be set up (and not first generation either).

2. Dedicated farm space for linen and food and even more to make room for rustblooms.

3. Tin bronze minimum armor and weapons for fighting sentries/drones/other things that you have to grind materials off of.

4. Enough food production to deliberately throw foot away for rot in order to make rustic compounds.

And on top of all that, the grind for materials is way up there. Arcanus in particular. Even just six of these means 12 crystals, and getting them from rifts with anchors depends on there even being a rift; and otherwise you're in direct combat with tier 2 mobs in the form of sentries/drones. And this is before you even start to do anything with spells, this is just for the beginning buildings. And runestones; you need a bare minimum of 4 of them for the oculus. Each runestone is 6 arcanus. Which means 24 arcanas; which means 48 crystals. And that's not even counting any of the other materials like rusty dust or shifting fibers which you can ONLY really get from dedicated farming of rustblooms (though mobs also tend to drop some of them too). And even once you start to make your very first apprentice tier spell, you now need a sanctum, which requires a temporal gear (extremely rare drop) and EIGHT MORE arcanus. And 4 more arcanus, plus two compounds, plus parchment for a runic scroll; and you can only get parchment from small hides that you need to have leatherworking set up to soak in limewater, OR by using boatloads of linen. And once you get all of that and start creating the grimoire, now you need full on leather for the grimoire recipe, plus eight MORE parchment, plus four MORE arcanus, plus four rusty gears (also extremely rare drop), plus ash that you can only get by burning even more resources or animals in the correct obelisk.

Point is, it takes so much to get to even apprentice tier starter-level spells that it's highly frustrating and discouraging. It feels like to even start on magic things, you had better have a 20-30 hour game save with everything set up and every single industry ready to go from the very start, or you're wasting your time. And at that point, the apprentice tier spells are barely beneficial to you at all, because my iron falx heavily outdamages any tier 1 spell thanks to its swing speed, my farm is all already optimized for water and nutrients, and I've already got more bandages than I can count for healing.

mayonnaise I would honestly be afraid to do that. Having mass block changes like there in a server with people spread out, the server would be crippled. I would have to think about this, see what I can do. :)

Falco It is in the configs, 75% with knife, 95% with Transmutation. That being said, you can change those configs too. The idea is that you have to do some rift shopping to replenish your stocks. With the guidebook, yeah this is on me. The old neutral manatorch was just called 'manatorch'. I changed the name to neutral to avoid confusion. Totally forgot to update it there. It will be in the next update. Good catch!

Also make sure you are on v2.2.4. There was a bug that stopped the level up logic that was fixed in 2.2.4. IvanZS is 100% right too with the positioning. My man!

@Falco "Frame" is any mana block - it does not matter if it is plain or chiseled. The center block of the frame is empty - air. Put the crucible on one of the sides, below it must be a runestone and not a mana block. So the frame should look like:

MRM

MAM

MMM 

where M - manablock, A - air, R - runeblock, the crucible should be placed above the runeblock.

It might not have been consuming a stack of experience after all that pushed me past 100% experience without level up. I noticed that eventually I got the level up and not consuming crystals I also managed to blow past 100% again using regular spells.

Also how do you make the crucible, because when I right click the thing it shows white outlines, but not how it is depicted in the image in the book, but rather offset. The book also just states that white is the "frame", but what is the frame? The image shows stairs and some kind of block. Is that the chiseled enchated block? And again, the outline doesn't match the image, so I don't know where to place the steps and where to place the blocks.

Vies I did check the guide book - on the ritual page it just says "Manatorch"... That's why I decided that the type does not matter.

What's the seed drop chance for planted riftblooms? because it seems I get less and less of them with every generation.

could you possibly add an option to make unstable riftbloom spawn during/after temporal storms, for those of us who have rifts disabled? would love to get into this mod but that's the main limiting factor for me right now. doesn't even have to be a ridiculous spawn rate, or enabled by default. cheers!

IvanZS That is because you can't just use any torch you want. The ritual of runic power II uses only neutral torches. This is also in the guidebook.

Version 2.2.4: While attempting "Ritual of Runic Power II" it seems that light manatorches are not accepted, the ritual completed only after I swapped them for neutral ones. Although the actual problem might be that I tried to use mixed (2 light and 2 neutral) manatorches?

GypsyOne This should be fixed with v2.2.4

Hi, to add on to the EXP bug @Falco was experiencing, the same is happening to me I believe from using the new Lesser Reap wand.

Edit: Exiting then re-entering the save made the level-up go through, though all of the excess exp is gone as well.

Falco Ah I see what happened there. I will have a fix in a few. Thanks!

I think I ate a stack of crystalized memories and it pushed my exp past 100%. now it doesn't update, even if I get more exp.

Grontage The issue is that they get up in your business...

Alright all, check out v2.2.3 to see if elementals have calmed down.

Mohl Yes, look at the Ritual of Creation. You can convert flint into obsidian.

Kirona You shouldn't have an issue getting it.

ItsRavenTM I am glad you are liking it! If people stop finding stuff, I can focus on new things like my minion system and boss fights. One day...

Zonasta The crucible is still a new system. It does only a few things atm. Open to suggestions on it. All suggestion should land in my Discord. I usually rarely check comments here, just been more active because of the new release.

InertFurry They'll attack you if you get all up in their buisness now. If you're chill and keep your distance, they'll be chill too.

On the latest version, sentries are attacking unawakened players.

Can 2nd that I die more from them sentrys than anything else, they have basically perfect aim, can hit you while moving and slip into 1 block spaces, they completely negate armor, which imho makes alot of sense, nice detail. I was thinking perhaps making them glow, like the fireflies that hover around, or at least based on their element. Also noiticed they spawn regardless of rift activity, and their ability to see you from 40 blocks away, and then insist to hunt you down until you kill them or vise versa.  They pretty annoying, but also cool, its a toss up. 

Gonna have to agree with the flying dudes being extremely annoying.

Vies Thanks for the info. I will get the update. Quick question, is there a more comprehensive list of things the magic Crucible can make/do or is it intended to be a "discover more in the book as you go"? Thanks!

Really fun mod, I'm a veteran thaumcraft player so I am very happy to see some of its systems come back. I would love to see some summoner focused magic in the future, as I am an absolute sucker for the minion master build in any game that lets me do it lol.
I do share the same little gripe as others regarding sentries though. They seem to be swarming everywhere always and I hope a patch is made to tweak their spawns for people who play a bit more casually. Best of luck with development, its damn fun!

I mean, if I can progress far enough to make the focus of enshrouding I will, sure. In the mean time, I ended up just making a new world where I'll be avoiding magic until I can.... I dunno, build a huge array of walls and stuff so I stop getting sniped, I guess.

I'll have to see what the focus takes whenever we get the chance to update. By the way, is there any mod-added methods of getting my hands on obsidian for stuff like the oculus or sanctum, or am I gonna have to hope I can find lava or naturally spawning obsidian somehow?

Well, like I said before, best way is to just make a patch. My spawns use the same stuff all creatures do; spawnconditions -> runtime -> chance.

If aggro range bothers anyone, make the focus of enshrouding. :)

Zonasta It was a CO/xskills thing. xskills mod assumed all other projectiles were CO ones. xskills has an update that fixes it.

SioxGWolf The mod is currently built against 1.20.3. Give me some time to update to 1.20.4.

GypsyOne Ty for the heads up! Got it fixed for the next update.

Vies

v2.2.1 fixed the problem

Hi! Love your mod, very cool. Just wanted to report a small bug, on game version 1.20.3, mod version 2.2.1.

The wand for Lesser Fertilize doesn't seem to consume mana if you cast it targeting the crop. I uses mana as normal if you target the soil as it required before.

Vies

Hello, I never use the button I always go to see the updates in the list ^^ I see that there is even a new one, I had put the latest version on my server yet telling myself that there was a problem but it hasn't changed

just dropping in to say your mod is awesome! Keep up the amazing work!

Any known issues with 1.20.4?

Seeing the Thaumonomicon layout legit made me tear up. Looks like I'll sink the next 6-8 years of my life into this mod!

I'm the aforementioned mage friend HangmanMatt was talking about, might be something with being on a fault line, but yeah, elementals seem to spawn in really weird ways for us that make it incredibly frustrating to deal with. Sometimes there'll be a swarm of 6+ of the things, sometimes only 2 in sight. A lot of the time one will just spawn directly behind me and launch me away while I'm trying to just work out in our field. Perhaps the flat terrain is enabling them to spawn frequently? Either way, it's at the point that I've had to make a pike from the combat overhaul armory just to pick all the fliers out of the sky, and the thing's half-broken already. Hell, even reducing their aggro range would help a bit.

ZetZero I am running into the same issue with wands not damaging any vanilla mobs. Have you found what the issue is or has Vies responded regarding this? I didn't see any responses in the comments here yet unless I missed them. It makes it hard to do a magic focused build when the spells don't seem to work on a large portion of the mobs. Been haveing a blast so far though!

(Not to dogpile the same point, but) I'm personally in the same boat of having the sun blotted out by drones and sentries most days. Even just low rift activity seems to spawn massive amounts on our server.

I don't personally have a lot of experience with modding VS specifically, but getting a quick pointer at what to peek at for their spawning behavior would help tremendously, if you're willing.

Will bribe with goodboye points and compliments

Zardeth Check out the new update, brought back the optional grimoire rng and made most attack spells have lower cast times by default.

Xestoch With the mods stuff, that doesn't surprise me. This isn't MC that has undergone at least some optimization. We still have room to grow. When I can run a decent modded server and not have to do 6h reboots to keep things working, I will be happy.

Maalus It is more just the actual time of day and being able to see sunlight (weather excluded). There is no changes with weather/desert or anything.

HangmanMatt Kirona Make a patch? Seems like only a few people get too many spawns, most feedback has been either fine or too few, you could of just built on the chunk areas fault lines?

AcidNight That was a problem in the other version, make sure to update and get rid of any old versions of the mod that could be sticking around. And don't use the 1-click install crap in the mod db page. You will see issues like this doing that.

Vies 

Hello, I'm trying to make my very first book, but after the first ingredient which is clearly indicated I have a sort of rotten image and there are no more ingredients to put in...

I tried to put the ingredients in the order of the list but nothing changes I still have this image and I don't know how to cancel, not even any more information on the craft just the position of the connected elements

I second turning down the Elemental spawn rate. Or at least turn down their absurdly large aggro distance. I keep getting shot in the back by elementals 50+ blocks away.

Is there any way to turn down the spawn rate of elementals? Every morning there is at least 7-8 floating above our base and they kill the player who is the wizard a couple times while we are clearing them out. It is really interfering with getting things done when we spend a few minutes every morning killing them all

Does sunlight matter for the celestial prism? We settled in a "mostly rainy" region and it's not generating much essence. Is it set to generate a certain amount a day, or do I have to worry about the weather / set it up in a desert?

We had to remove this from our server after the last couple mod updates because the server kept getting overloaded and not responding, temporal storms also became a guaranteed perma overload and a forced server restart.

We think that it is the creature spawns and how they work but can't say for sure, maybe you can add a basic or even tiered item(For stronger/quantity elementals) that you throw at a rift to lure out the elemental creatures that you tend to see everywhere instead of how they are spawning right now? Would also keep the world more clean visually instead of having rock golems floating around whenever rifts are about and maybe even add some light convinience instead of relying on the RNG behind finding a specific climate and finding the rifts(Not that the latter bothered us too much). Can't exactly say it is the creatures specifically though but considering temporal storms were a guaranteed overload and high rift activity would cause a whopping around 60 seconds worth of overload from time to time our guess kinda stem from there and how they work and spawn from rifts/etc.

Here is the major modlist though; Xskills, Working classes, Rustbound magic, Culinary artillery/Expanded foods, Carry on, Primitive survival, Chiseltools and better weather.

There's also stick crafting and stone oven on the smaller side. It began when we updated Rustbound magic and Xskills specifically. (Could just be that we have too many mods to be honest and updating mods in a already existing world caused some funky problems)

We don't have any logs so this post is kinda garbo, apologies for that. But i felt like giving a headsup anyway if only for the creature suggestion alone.

Otherwise the mod was fun! We enjoyed it even if we couldn't get too deep into it due to the aformentioned problem, may pick it up later down the line on a more mod clean server and after some mod updates.

Edit ~ It is definitely all the mods just breaking the servers back, magic just helped tipped it over the edge more than usual so disregard.

Vies ah ok, tbh i did not like the rng factor of it either but the thing is that having grimoire which had close to 50% less cast time (which was vanilla range setting i believe) made it much more viable and enjoyable as 6seconds cast time for offensive spell is crazy long with magician staff and rust mage class.
Is there perhaps any config option for global cast speed and damage multipliers? In 1.0 i used the grimoire rng value config to make it to my liking, atm it feels damage of grimoire spells is needlesly high (especially if one is attuned to element) but cast speed it way too slow.

Zardeth This one may actually be on me. I had pretty overwhelming feedback with people not liking the rng, so I just took it out as a quick fix. I guess I forgot to prune out the configs. If it isn't too hard, I can add this in as a potential option to enable in the configs. I will look into it.

So this wasn't too bad to do, I had preserved the code with a TODO to get it back in. There will be a new config to enable or disable the random stats. Will be off by default and in the next update. Thanks!

Grontage Ehh this comes down to preference. I personally disagree with people learning to expect the creeper. To me, it added some variety and a reason to build a base. I enjoy a challenge and unique things to survive from and find it pointless to have super strong weapons or magic, and basic wolves/drifters to defend from. 1 shotting thing that just predictably charge towards me is not fun. That is why mods like Lycanite's Mobs are so popular. The few entities we have I feel lacks attack variety. I already nerfed the ravager so they do not do block damage, just player damage. This was a pretty big flex for me, since it would of been an opportunity for people to use other ingame systems no one knows about, like the awesome block reinforcement system.

I'm unsure how good of an idea the rustic ravager is. Everything else really only bothers mages, but the addition of a wandering creeper is a nasty surprise. People who've spent a lot of time minecrafting may have learned to expect it, but there's nothing like that in the base game and you're really not trained for it. The world becoming more dangerous for mages is good, I actually like that a lot, but there being a sudden very nasty monster out there even if you're not a mage feels mean.

Does randomized stats on oculus grimoire creation works?
I tried to make couple of books and they all have base stats, than i tried to change the rng settings in config file in "Oculus settings." and books still have non randomized stats, is this feature broken or does some other of my mods break it?

Please scroll up and read the "Important Notes" section.

We have an ongoing world, and I'm looking for a safe way to get rid of this without ruining our progression. I know vintage story is great with substituting missing block data, but is there anything I should be aware of?

TheSinisterRat Not a problem!

TrulyAurora Yeah this is a sliding scale because I have others saying there are too many. So in the magic lore I made, these elementals originate from the rust, which I label as primordial magic. They will spawn more often from rifts. That means to see them, you have to have rifts enabled. Some server owners mess with the rift settings, which can either drastically lower or increase spawn rates. I balance things on default settings. In my world, there are days when it is quiet, and other days when I battle and farm some materials.

ZetZero This was explained a few times already in comments and it is in the guidebook 'Essence and Leylines' -> page 2. Use magic chalk to draw magic runes around an essence generator to turn it on. After that, the obelisk will start to process material placed in the fuel slot.

Lionion It sounds like the mod isn't for you then if you don't like the game design. No biggie, maybe try back after more updates or when the eventual v3 rewrite happens in a year or so. That or maybe another magic mod comes out that you may like more? You never know what people are working on.

I like the concept of it, but constantly finding endless wave of sentries (still happening on the latest version) because a rift or two always opens near the base is making the game unplayable. It also causes players to have way too much magical resources. It's just not great game design.

Having issues with the obelisk, we have the runestones made and placed in the correct order, following the guide book it seemed like the next step, and have also connected it to the magic workbench but the generater is still not turning on? the handbook mentioned using arcanus and temporal gears but still the obelisk doesnt do anything, im i missing something? 

Vies that's what was happening on v2.0.0 was there were too many, now on v2.1.36 there are none, as well as one other mod that has spawnable creatures that shouldnt be interfearing. like had a high flux of both modded creatures to not having any of them

@Vies Thank you, I don't know how I missed that but feel very dumb for having done so.

GhostMX That was already fixed and will be in the next update.

Kate_ I am making a few more changes to spawn rates that I think will help with that in the next update.

TheSinisterRat Guidebook says to turn it on, surround it with runes from the magic chalk. The runstones increase the essence generation rates while it runs. Still need the runes around it though.

Dovah272 Make a sacrifice to the gods. If ANYTHING with CO integration was simple, it would of already been fixed. There should be basic compatibility for mage armor in CO already, as in I had to redo my stats and soulbound systems to get this to even work.

Enaimao Not that I have heard.

TrulyAurora That is funny, others are saying they are getting too many, and other say they like the balance. XD

Yantar This has come up, the game is not optimized and in some clients, including mine, the magic stuff is just enough to strain things. Just because you have a beast machine doesn't mean the game can use it to the fullest. There are numerous posts on setting to change to fix this. One is pinned in my discord. something with v sync and something else. Can't remember.

Gearalt Hold a transmog stone in your man hand, have nothing in your offand. Open the menu, and select an option. Put the staff or armor in the offhand. Hold sneak + right click with transmog stone still in your main hand to complete.

cant figure out how to use a transmog stone. it says to select an option when i right click or shift right click but no screen pops up for me to make a selection.

Not sure if it's related to the mod, but it only happens with this mod active; Upon unlocking magic, my game gets pretty stuttery. It's not a memory leak or lack of memory, I have 128gb and Vintage Story even after 6 hours of playing only it takes up 30% at worst. Without magic activated? Nothing, clean as a whistle, but the moment I unlock the secrets of the universe, bam, stutters. The weirdest part? Only my character stutters when moving. The world and everything else runs perfectly smooth. Might be a conflict between Xskills and Rustbound? It's the only mod I have that I know influences movespeed so maybe that might be related.

Enaimao I have tried removing all mods and it does seem like they aren't spawning in latest update

Anyone having a mod incompatibility with elementals not spawning at all? If so Does anyone know the mod?

Is there any way to make this compatible with combat overhaul? If its a simple fix ill even do it myself if need be. I just wanna wear my wizard robes and not have the awful vanilla combat.

I cannot seem to get the prism generator to work - cast the ritual, it spawned, built four pillars around it with the runestones placed where the highlights are and... Nuffin. Anyone know if it sounds like I'm doing something wrong from that description?

Is there a way to turn down the spawn rate of the elementals, or turn them off. My save having alot of issues with them, and would rather them be really rare then have them spawn in abundance XD
Is there something in the mod file i can edit/change

Hello @Vies !! Well, I have a problem to change spells with "Immersive Mouse Mode" Enabled in the "Inteface" settings. Holding "alt" does not allow me to move the mouse pointer. Thanks a lot for you work with this mod.

Gourgandin No, good god no. What is in the mod now is all that is going to be done.

Taurgis The manabar will not update until you reload.

InertFurry No idea here. I don't go out of my way to do integration with other mods so I don't know enough to help there.

ZetZero No idea on this either. My stance is if it works with just my mod and the game, I should be good. I do not hijack any base game systems. If another mod hijacks something, well...

Haruro I can mark that down as an incompatibility. Looking at that mod, it seems like it caused a lot of conflicts with vanilla items, like not being able to craft shields. My recipe uses a simple log that should be plentiful in the game. If this mod took those out, that is an issue. If you really want this mod to work with RBM, you may have to change the thaumic workbench recipe, maybe turn it into a patch?

Can't craft the Thaumic Workbench with https://mods.vintagestory.at/florasphere enabled

Vies updated both rustmagic and xskills but still getting the projectile issues. Players are not able to do any damage to regualar mobs using any kind of wand but works fine on elemental monsters from rustmagic and other players

Does anyone know what to do to get sentries and their ilk to give combat experience for XSkills?

uhh Vies i read your reply to Sprilly. but it doesnt seem like its working? i still have mana

Vies Colaboration with Combat Overhaul

thank you! Vies

MidnightBlack Sevie Toudi The elemental spawning requirements and aitask rebalancing has been worked on the past couple of updates. Most feedback says they are good now. Make sure you are using the newest version of the mod.

Gourgandin Not sure what you mean?

Leanne It is a neat idea, but A LOT of work for a single spell. Probably will not be any time soon. Unless I add elemental wyverns, but it would be more then casting a spell.

spriily You have to hold sneak to use the admin tools. They are my personal tools so there isn't a lot of tooltip love there.

ZetZero Xandu fixed this xskills issue, should be set.

having fun playing through this for the first time on 1.20. though on our dedicated server, most of the wands we've started to make dont do any damage when hitting any mobs is there something we are missing?

thoes elemental enemies are annoyance, spawns way too many of them, the are ranged, and also spawns in my house, nice concept but its too much to handle

how does the admin tool to remove magic work? i can't seem to figure out how to use it on myself, and i realized i got into magic a bit too soon and am being overpowered by elementals -v-;;

very much worth the wait, been having a lot of fun with this! i wish the elemental enemies were a little tuned down, having the sentries shoot at me from like 50 blocks in the air gets a little annoying sometimes.

Hello, question, and this may be suited better for another mod, but could it be possible to make a magic version of the bone flute that will warp your last owned elk to you? Figured I may as well posit the idea or suggestion, but I know I've lost at least one elk before. Thanks for the cool mod and the work you've done!

Edit, or better yet, a conjure tamed elk spell, one that can spawn a kitted out elk (or at least one with a bridel and saddle) for a period of time?

When collab with Combat Overhaul ? 

Cool mod! I have one question: When should elemental mobs start spawning or what triggers their spawning? It's been almost a week since my character started on the path of magic. and not a single mob has appeared. I apologize if I missed any info about that.

GingerTail I appreciate it. Hopefully it all works. Just added something to fix the Trait Acquirer issues. I hope people read the warnings on it.

zackadiax24 Yeah I get you. I have to give credit where it is due, that mod is ambitious for sure. Icons look great, the concept is pretty deep. It seems like it should be a few separate mods though because some people love it for a specific function, but I also understand that the function they like is likely because of everything coming together.

Honestly, I think the only reason why I kept pushing forward each time something new came up with this CO work, is because I think Maltiez is a nice guy and a fantastic modder. Enough it grind some salt in the wounds. XD

Vies

My solution would be to not support CO and let Maltiez deal with the consequences of their own actions. But i tend to take a heavier handed apporach to things than most people.

Thank you for this wonderful mod <3 and thank you for trying to combat... Combat Overhaul.

wojwojowski Maybe? I have patches in, but it really is a hard mod to work with, every time I look again, there is another crash to deal with or system to change.

Crypto34 Linkbro No idea how to help there. The mod not loading at all is more of a VS problem. Sometimes people move mod folders, others reinstall. I don't keep track of it because I don't see it that often.

For the magic chalk being uncraftable, it definitely is craftable. There are multiple ways to get crystals. Elemental drops or crafting them. Elemental drops require no essence.

zackadiax24 I am trying to not be salty but it is hard when every time I look at something else, there is a crash or one of my systems just don't work anymore. It honestly seems like a cool mod, just would be nice if you were not bent over doing things their way or the highway.

Taurgis Only way to remove magic atm is with the admin tool that removes it. Found in creative -> Special tab.

hey sorry to bug ya, been playing with some freinds and got suckered into magic. was wondering if there was a way to rid myself of Magic using abilities and such. 

hey, just wanted  to thank you for adding compatibility integration with my fav mod combvat overhaul, sorry that it made you salty 😅
I love that mod exactly for it armor system so I can understand why it may be a pain to work with as a creator ( especially with adding new sources of damage of different types of magic oof) 
Thanks again and good luck with modding! \o/

I like combat overhaul but the latest update to this mod just proves my point that the armor system either needs to be a seperate mod, have a config to enable vanilla amor slots, or at the very least disableable.

I hope Maltiez takes this to heart.

heya, the 2.1.0 doesn't seem to work for me, i tried updating to it from 2.0.0 and all the items and blocks became errors, reverting back to 2.0.0 worked though.

similarly, in the 2.0.0 version at least, as far as i can tell magic chalk is uncraftable? it needs the thaumic workbench which needs essence, but to get essence you need one of the the generators that you need to use a ritual to make, whic needs magic chalk. i might be missing something, though.

Alright so I'm at a loss. Im still running 1.19.8 for Vintage, I grabbed that specific game version file from the files section. 1.9.74 is the exact version of this mod i grabbed, it's activated in my mod manager, however nothing from this mod appears in world. I'm running a creative test world to make sure things appear, and they're simply not. Can't find anything in the guide book, can't find any items in the creative spawn menu for every other object ever.

I'm completly at a loss as to why. If anyone has any idea why it's not showing up in game I would be eternally greatful

hey is the armors work with combat overhaul?

https://github.com/HydraCat/VStraitacquirer/issues/7 was filed about the incompatibility with Trait Acquirer. A workaround is described at the end of the bug report.

I see that Thaumcraft inspiration. This game is absolutely perfect for that kind of theming. Very much looking forward to playing with this.

Estirra Yeah if I hear from others that the explosion is too loud, I can look into replicating the explosion method just to get to the sound file and dial it down.

ergoplato  TheSinisterRat Glad you are both like the mod!

Sbmhawk I had a few other reports about trait acquirer having issues. I put this in the mod db page. Thank you for the heads up!

FYI, trait accquirer is incompatbile with this mod

Just a comment to say how cool the mod is! Love how the magic system works with the lore in the base game. Thanks for making it.

This is a fantastic mod from what we -my friends and I - have played so far and really takes me back to years ago playing Thaumcraft just due to the manual. The new creatures have been met with oohs and aaahs and intrigue and we are very excited to explore the depths of this wonderful work. Watching flowers turn to riftblooms while we were trying to hunt down some rusty dust was phenomenol, and the possibilities are both mysterious and exciting just based on the scraps of information we have picked up from the handbook.

Thank you immensely for this!

Got it!  That explains all the sudden sentries.  And I figured you were using the bomb code and that it would be tricky to decode.  Thank you regardless!

Yuri_G Thanks! My mod is compatible with both mods. I am getting this a lot and people are confusing compatibility with integration. I added a section to this in the mod db page.

Estirra Elemental spawning scales with the rift activity. If it is calm, you MAY see like 1. If you are lucky. Apocalyptic, hold on to your pants. There was nothing to really scale that with, just uses the same system that drifters and others uses. As for the sound, there isn't a way I can lower that volume. The explosions are triggered by the actual in game explosion logic that takes care of all of that stuff. It is the same method the ingame bombs use. If others complain about it, I could recreate that method, but that was extra work so it wasn't done.

Super excited to try out this mod!  I've already tried it out a bit and noticed a LOT of sentries and stuff spawning around our home base area, not sure if it's meant to be that high?  Also, the ravager's explosion sound is VERY jumpscare-inducing when you're not expecting it.  Could it be possible to have a config toggeable option to remove/quiet the sound, or prevent the boom entirely if altering the sound is not viable?  I looked through the config and didn't find any options for mobs.  

Absolutely great work!
Is it compatible with XSkills and Combat Overhaul? Would love to know if I can play as a gunner when my friend plays a mage lol :D 

yay

I can't wait to see the new features and changes ^^ otherwise I'll have to start all over again as I'm starting from a new world x)

Alright all! It is out! Have fun!

it's been a while since i played vintage story XD been stuck in a modded rpg minecraft for a while :P hope your doing good and to see a server i can jump on when this is updated.

Version 2.0.0 is coming soon! Last bit of testing atm. I am excited for everyone to jump on in!

This mod is quite amazing to play with, and I cannot wait to get to finally play it once it updates for 1.20. It's just a very fun experience that manages to meld into the game's surivial without throwing things into chaos.

Cant wait for 2.0! :D

Very excited for 2.0, I never played the earlier versions of this mod as I have been waiting for 1.20 to release before playing again, always love in-depth magic systems and this sounds super cool!

From what I've heard it's not going to be nearly as grindy as it used to be WorldEater

To my understanding, the next rustbound magic update for 1.20.x is essentially going to be rustbound magic 2? That is to say, a different enough mod that some or most things will simply vanish? If there's something I'll get upset over, I'd like to get that getting upset done and over with as soon as possible.

Looking forward to the 2.0 update with 1.20 finally out

If your game laggs and stutters make sure to also turn Vsync mode off

I apologize if this is listed somewhere in the guides and I'm just too dense to find it, but I'm struggling with Lacrimas. I just hit tier 2 and saw that a lot of the new recipies require more stored Essence than a single Nexus can hold. Naturally, I assumed Lacrimas were the next step forward so I synthesized all three, but I think I must be doing something wrong because they don't seem to do anything? I see that they are in Siphon mode when I put them in the Nexus, but I haven't really been able to find anywhere what Siphon mode specifically does, or how to change it. At the moment they are just sitting in my magic stations empty.

You know what this kind of reminds me of with having to go insane to start using magic?  Wheel of TIme.  Remindes me of the dark one's taint on the male half of the "one power".   Now I want a Wheel of TIme mod LOL😅

SoupInCat I know why those projectiles are having issues! I rewrote the whole projectile spell system in the 2.0 mod redesign. The main issue is the actual spell hit box was about 0.5f lower than the visible projectile. The point of all spell projectile "released origin" was kind of skewed too. Not anymore. Rewriting the system like I did also let me calculate range a spell will reach in blocks as well so that is a bonus.

DollBabyCP This was fix and will be in the 2.0 release which will be on this site whenever we get a stable 1.20 full release.

Okay, I'm not sure why, but some spells, in scroll form anyways, just dont seem to hit any target, even if it really does hit them, it just disappears and does nothing, this was when i was testing in creative to see if they worked. Fireball, thunderstrike, some others, they just do not hit any creature, and i cannot figure out why. I dont even get any errors in my server console. AOE spells still work, but projectile ones do not seem to work. I'm just in 1.19.8 on a server. I tested it with ONLY rustbound magic installed, but scroll projectile spells simply do not affect creatures. Is this just WIP? Or a feature I do not understand? The spells seem to work from the staff though.

found a bug on the 1.19.8 where when with the mod tentbag (not the one from useful stuff the alone one) it duplicates the item onto the ground when tentbag is picked up and duplicates with the item still being in the magic station so if you spam the tentbag the item continusly duplictaes onto the ground there is limited use to this however because only certan items can go in magic stations making them technichly infinte once you aquire it once and a tentbag

Kelachim If you started a fresh world on 1.20, you can absolutely add this at any time. I intentionally made sure to avoid worldgen stuff for this specific reason. If you don't like the magic mod, you can remove it easily too.

The only restriction to keep in mind is that you can't use the new rewrite to come on a world that had the old (current) version of my magic mod running on it. They are incompatible with each other. Well technically nothing stops you from doing this, I won't be standing over your keyboard, but you will loose just about all items and progress will probably not work well. This refers to you having a 1.19 world that had the current mod db version of the magic mod running, then took that same world and imported it to 1.20 and used the new v2.0 rewrite version of the mod. That would not work well.

can it be added into the world afterwards? wont it affect the mods  functionality if i add it into the 1.20 world after your release?

FaRayne It looks like the riftblooms are all fixed! Unfortunately this fix is in the v2.0 rewrite which won't be on the mod db site until we have a full 1.20.X release. I have been giving people access to it via my Discord though.

Vies Wooooo!

Update on Riftblooms! I think I found the issue and it could be fixed. Just need to test it.

FaRayne I let SpearAndFang know about the issue, he is going to look at a few things on his end.

FaRayne not really. I looked at this yesterday. Having this mod on actually makes time stop for a while after starting or reloading the world. I didn't have any mods in but that one, started a world, planted some onions, and reloaded the world. Time was stuck for a bit. It eventually starts again and skips ahead to catchup, but that is a potential problem. It could be that behavior that messes up the BlockEntityTransient behavior. There is also stuff with harmony patching for getplacedblockinfo and what not. This would have to be addressed in Wild Farm - Revival. No idea why it is happening. I think SpearAndFang took that over. I can shoot him a Discord message to see if he knows why it is doing that.

Vies Is there a workaround for public servers that can't remove wild farming?

FaRayne I started a section at the bottom of the mod db page here and put in something. Basically some of my alpha testers found that Wild Farming - Revival prevented riftblooms from growing. They seem to get stuck at the end of the cycle. You can read about that info in the page above. Note this could also be an issue with other mods that hijack BlockEntityTransient though harmony patching.

I'm running into a problem that both UnknownFox and and Trevorscow ran into further down the posts, but nothing to suggest how I might fix it. My seeds are saying "Will mature in less than a day" and then I go through multiple day/night cycles with no progress made whatsoever. It's making doing anything with this mod a chore because I can't farm rusty dust.

Vies I managed to find a work around
it requires to have the inventory open, then casting
when it nearly finish casting, throw the required amount

but i dont think its gonna work for other things that requires 20 items
as they will clump before the last item dropped

BulletJustice All I can say is just give it a try if you are interested and see if you like how it runs with your custom settings. It is free to try and it doesn't add worldgen so take it out if you don't like it.

DeeCee

This is a known issue, one that people will start to see faster depending on the VS game settings, PC settings, and the amount of mods you have running. People tend to forget this this game is still very much unoptimized, and lucky me, the magic mod has a lot of checks that needs to occur to make magic happen. I have this pinned in my discord server for people https://www.vintagestory.at/forums/topic/6244-potential-fix-for-stuttering-nvidia-cards/

Afroman726 Glad you like it!

Origin_Alpha_43 That is a known issue with only a few options, either the game's client and server actually reliabily sync, or you can't use that clump mod when doing rituals. I had to limit itemstacks to 1 because the server doesn't tick the same as the client, and it will eat way more items than it should, or you will still see phantom items on the client that are not really there. It really seems like an issue with just syncing itemstack size amounts. That is also why you throw items in 1 at a time in the oculus too.

FuriMoon I am pretty sure I fixed that issue at this point literally months ago, but that update kind of turned into the mod rewrite I have been working on. So it will be in the mod rewrite, which will be fully release when we have a legit 1.20.3-4 full release.

Vies I just installed this mod when shortly after unlocking magic I exerpeince stuttering and lag when rotating quickly, but slow movements and the actual game still run at a high framerate. Turning off the HUD fixes this like DeeCee mentioned.

I have found that setting my max framrate to ~85 stops this issue while keeping the HUD on. I don't know why this happens, but just mentioning it for feedback and to help others with this issue.

Vies (or anyone really) I Keep Crashing around rifts, and messing about with mods, unloading this one seems to prevent me from crashing near rifts.This happens in single player and on a server. Here's my log if anyone has any idea what could be causing it id appretaice the help. 

Game Version: v1.19.8 (Stable)
11/16/2024 3:37:40 AM: Critical error occurred
Loaded Mods: aculinaryartillery@1.2.1, chiseltools@1.12.10, primitivesurvival@3.6.5, usefuldrifterloot@1.1.0, visibleore@1.0.1, game@1.19.8, egocaribautomapmarkers@3.1.0, carryon@1.7.4, chestorganizer@1.0.1, commonlib@2.4.0, expandedfoods@1.7.2, extrainfo@1.8.1, hudclock@3.4.0, spearexpantion@0.2.1, particlesplus@1.1.0, prospecttogether@1.4.0-rc.2, rustboundmagic@1.9.74, sharablewaypoints@1.5.4, smithingplus@1.1.3, spawnhighlight@1.2.0, creative@1.19.8, survival@1.19.8, xlib@0.8.6, playercorpse@1.10.1-rc.1, stonequarry@3.3.1, xskills@0.8.8
System.Exception: Fatal: Element bounds 642.625/1249.875 -> 1811.375 / 1387.375 self reference itself in child bounds, this would cause a stack overflow.
at Vintagestory.API.Client.ElementBounds.MarkDirtyRecursive() in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\ElementBounds.cs:line 167
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiComposer.PostRender(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\GuiComposer.cs:line 676
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiDialog.OnFinalizeFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Dialog\GuiDialog.cs:line 397
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.GuiManager.OnFinalizeFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\GuiManager.cs:line 324
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ClientEventManager.cs:line 186
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 809
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 1013
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 676
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 651
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 88
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 324
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass9_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 128
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

Little issue report
the Item Clump mod conflicts with the World Magic
as it stack items into one, Rustbound magic does not recognize the dropped items when stacked

This mod is awesome!! Thank you so much! :D

Just tried this mod out for the first time, love the concept and how you're weaving it into the lore of the game.
One small issue though, as soon as I unlock the mana bar my game begins to stutter, like it's skipping frames or something.
Is this a known issue?

Edit: Disabling the HUD by pressing F4 temporarily resolves this issue, but the lag returns as soon as the HUD is re-enabled.

Vies so just to clarify, If we have Temporal Stability turned OFF then we just merely hold right click with the powder to activate? or is there another step involed when Temp stab is off?

Just throwing this out there for the sake of an update, but at this point the alpha for the v2.0 rewrite of this mod is pretty much done. The whole thing feels different and the feedback has be great. The plan is to still beta test the mod in a community server, and the official release of the mod rewrite on this db site will not be until at least the official release of 1.20.3 or 1.20.4 of VS. I am not going to fight game bugs this time around. <3

BulletJustice There are a lot of interactions with temporal stability, but you can play the mod without stability enabled. Just ignore any stability talk to requirements. I don't clean up or change localizaion based on if temporal stability is present or not. The only thing really required are rifts to convert flowers into riftblooms. Any balancing is done with stability in mind so at worse, you may need to tweak a config option or 2, but that is about it.

I see the comment about "This mod is best played with temporal stability" and later in the instructions it says you need to have 0% temporal stability... So... is it a "Best" meaning "Required"? or is there a way to do this mod with Stability turned off? We have rifts on, but not stability as we don't enjoy the stability mechanics.

Capybaracade You need to meditate. Press "G" to sit on the ground, stay sitting for 10s. Best to have nothing in your main hand.

AcidNight You need to have the minimal amount of max mana to be able to level up your magic tier. It is 50 by default. This doe not include mana from armor bonuses. You will know you can level up when you see green arrows above your magic tier icon on the hud to the left of your manabar. I think I have instructions in the mod about the process.

For all those who have the weird issue PeachyPotato had, we solved it in Discord:

Alright, I got some feedback from people who run servers. Not a specific issue with my mod. Your server is just running out of ram with so many mods. Some of the mods you are using also give people issues when interacting with eachother. It is recommended that you restart the server every 6 hours or less, or your chunks start to go poof. It makes sense that my magic stations would be the first to go, as they do a lot of magic stuff behind the scenes.

The TLDR: Even if you have a beast server, restart it often. It is not you, it is the game for now. :D

ok is 67 mana on armor 

hello, how do you use the "sigil of awakening"??? I'm at 0% but nothing happens

Hey, we've been coming across kind of a weird issue on our 1.19.8 server.

the mod generally works fine, but occasionally and especially after periods of server inactivity, when somebody logs in the entire chunk and it's corresponding vertical stack that the mod crafting stations and oculus are in is broken/corrupt, leaving a giant hole in the map and requiring a server reboot to fix this.

We moved the crafting stations, and the issue still occurs in the new chunk they're in. Seeing it maybe once every couple of days. The server has 32gb of ram and a i7 8th gen, we have no more than 4 players on at a time.


Here are the mods the server is loading

mod@1499 Degrees.zip, mod@ACulinaryArtillery 1.2.1.zip, mod@BetterTradersv0.0.7.zip, mod@chiseltools1.12.10.zip, mod@diamondtools1.0.5.zip, mod@icyexc.zip, mod@millwright_1.1.7.zip, mod@MoreRoofing-1.3.4.zip, mod@primitivesurvival_3.6.5.zip, mod@Rust & Rot v1.19.8 1.0.5.zip, mod@Swordz 1.1.8.zip, mod@temporal_gears_stack v1.zip, mod@translocatorengineeringredux_1.5.3.zip, mod@VintageEngineering-0.2.8.zip, mod@vtr_3.0.3.zip, mod@alchemy_1.6.35.zip, mod@animalcages_v3.0.3.zip, mod@apewindows-v1.19.8-1.1.0.zip, mod@bedspawnv2_1.2.0.zip, mod@beehivekiln_1.6.1.zip, mod@berrybushfixes_1.0.0.zip, mod@betterjonasdevices_1.1.0.zip, mod@BetterRuinsv0.3.7.zip, mod@blacksmithenhancements_1.0.5.zip, mod@CarryOn-1.19_v1.7.4.zip, mod@chickenfeed_1.1.3.zip, mod@electricity_0.0.11.zip, mod@ExpandedFoods 1.7.2.zip, mod@ExtraInfo-v1.8.1.zip, mod@FarmlandDropsSoil-VS1.15-v1.4.0 (1).zip, mod@fieldsofsalt_v1.2.1.zip, mod@foodshelves_1.3.1.zip, mod@hit_2.1.2.zip, mod@hydrateordiedrate_1.3.9.zip, mod@KCM - Coal to Diamonds.zip, mod@KCM-Stick-Firewood-V1.zip, mod@krpgenchantment_0.4.7.zip, mod@kscartographytable_1.0.1.zip, mod@lavoisier-1.3.0.zip, mod@levelup_1.2.9.zip, mod@medievalexpansion-3.13.1.zip, mod@MeteoricExpansion_V1.2.5.zip, mod@OneBedSleeping_v2.4.2 (1).zip, mod@petai_v2.2.6.zip, mod@pottery-wheel_v1.1.1.zip, mod@ProspectTogether-1.4.0-rc.1.zip, mod@rivers_3.1.0.zip, mod@rustboundmagic_1.9.74.zip, mod@sailboat_1.3.1.zip, mod@SimpleTailoring_v1.0.1.zip, mod@steamandpower_1.6.2.zip, mod@th3dungeon_0.2.1.zip, mod@traitacquirer_0.9.4.zip, mod@undergroundmines_1.0.3.zip, mod@vsimgui_1.1.5.zip, mod@wgmt_1.0.2.zip, mod@cats_v2.0.3_petai_v2.0.+.zip, mod@chemistrylib-1.1.5.zip, mod@expanded_matter-2.7.0.zip, mod@feverstonewilds_1.5.0-rc.2.zip, mod@Sammiches_v1.1.0.zip, mod@ShePansSeashells_v1.18.+_v1.0.0.zip, mod@StoneQuarry_VS1.19.8_net7_v3.3.1.zip, mod@Th3DungonTopEntrance_0.1.1.zip, mod@wolftaming_v2.1.3_petai_v2.0.+.zip, mod@kos-fireandexplosions-1.1.3.zip, mod@MoreRoads 1.5.8.zip, mod@roadworks_v2.0.0.zip

I don't recall seeing any logs in the console either, but i'm keeping an eye out for it now after needing to restart this morning. If there's anything else i can provide let me know.

How do I regen my mana? I did the thing to get started but my mana is stuck at 0 and wont go up

Sevie In the new 2.0 update, I got rid of the clay recipes and locked most things magic craftable in the new Thaumic workbench to make it so only mages can make magic things. Currently about to move to beta testing the mod in a multiplayer server.

I do wish the clay recipes weren't visible for people without magic. there's a lot there and people do complain about having so much bloat. not sure if it's possible, but it would be so nice to have. Great mod though!

DarkWalf88 My previous skill based save comment had nothing to do with xskills. That was more about, i.e. I try to learn a spell, and I fail. Now it spawns 5 drifters around me, and I have 1 minute to kill them all for the learning to be successful. Things like that where your skill ingame changes an outcome. I don't have plans to do a double cast for spells atm. I could have 1 cast time produce multiple spell effects, but instead of that, I would rather get feedback on the spells I have to make them better. 

For the projectiles, that is an interesting issue I thought about for well months. The problem is multi fold. If I make the hitbox super small, you can easily shoot directly down without being right on the edge. That GREATLY reduces accuracy though. If I move the spawn origin out away from the center of the body, your aim calculation will be completely inaccurate. Still haven't found a good solution for that.

On the topic of xskills, I will probably never make integration with any mod. Don't get me wrong, I love xskills and use it when I can, but I do not want parts of my mod to bleed into any other mods, so when something eventually goes wrong, I am not troubleshooting stuff I can't change, because the error is not in my mod. If someone else wants to make the xskills module and put in a system that makes sense that my magic mod doesn't already do, I say go for it.

I know you mentioned a few more things, I encourage you to join the discord for more discussion on this.

Hey there DarkWalf88 This mod is not being made to mesh with other mods, in the next version there will be a way to get a small passive mana regen And spell discovery was overhauled, with the spellcasting while moving, you can already do that with the evocation spells, and double casts would break the balance of this mod. With the rustbolt hitting blocks, thats just a quirk with how the spell has to work. And crops are not going to turn into turn into riftblooms because it would break every single one of your crops preventing them from growing. Thank you for your interest though

Vies how about implementing the skill based save with the xskill mod, you could add even more skill for like augmented mana regen (or less stability loss), more success chance for the discovery of spells (adding a stat variable (something like magic discovery or magic knowledge) to the nested IF so you can change it) and even advanced perk to cast spells while moving or doble cast spells. There seems to be an issue when you cast rustbolt and other projectile type spells under your feet: when you stand at the edge of the block and you shot to an entity below you, the projectile either vanish or hit the block instead of the entity. Also could you change the riftbloom to a crop?

Trug Using some kind of skill based save is an awesome idea! I think I could use that as a potential failure mechanic! Thank you for giving me a great idea and ruining my social life for this coming weekend! lol The new 2.0 redesign does completely change spell research and discovery. The change you may be most interested in that if you fail now, you do not loose any resources beside 8 magic runes you made from your magic chalk. I felt the physical toll was punishment enough. That system is hard to make configs for since it is a nested if. So I roll a random and have 1-100 cut into 5 different effects, like a pie chart. Some effects have a bigger slice than the others. It is hard to explain how, say, chance of health failure % = range of 16 - 34 for tier 1. 

Burgersim They use to be able to light stuff. I had a vote before to see how manatorches should behave (either exactly like regular torches with torch limitations OR removing the heat part but making it usable underwater and in rain. It was almost 100% removing heat. There was just more appeal at the time to have something you can swim with that wasn't a lantern. Since burning I think is mainly done in json, I can't just put a config option in to enable it. That being said, anyone can make a patch for the manatorch to add the "CanIgnite" behavior to them. I actually have that still in the json, just commented out as a reference for people who want that feature.

Plumeria This is an interesting request. I could possibly add config options that would basically be like how I have the dark nexus (now the devouring void). Basically add an ignore list where you have to type in what to ignore. It acts like a "contains" so you have to be careful. put in something like "flower" and you basically shut off everything except like ferns. lol 

This goes for everyone, I rarely check these comments. If you have any feedback or suggestions, putting them in my discord channel for my mods is how I am going to see it pretty quickly. Link is in the top of the page.

Plumeria There have been attempts to make the riftblooms as unobtrusive as possible, originally they affected all plants, but in doing so they completely broke the plants actually growing so it had to eventually be narrowed to the point where flowers are the only thing affected, Narrowing it down from there was seen as impractical plus after a short time any plant affected by the rift will turn back into the same plant as prior, If you have modding skills it may be a good idea to implement it yourself to help with your own playthrough

Heyo~ I have a minor request if possible, could the rift blooms perhaps only happen with certain flowers? Losing half my flowers that I use for alchemy and my horsetail production is sadge. Just thought I'd throw this out there. You've done amazing work with your mods ^^ I really appreciate all you've done. My top fave has got to be the flying machines, also the magic is chefs kiss 

Thanks~

Plumeria

Would there be a possibility to make the Mana Torch a thing that could ignite stuff?

Vies, awesome, thanks for the reply. Didn't realize you could hook different types to the vault at once, I thought it was just a 1:1 connection.

Looking forward to v2! Only other thing I would suggest after grinding through most of your v1 is adding something to the config to let you set the failure chance for spell learning. I don't know what the percent chance is actually set to, but it certainly felt like I failed more often than not. Some RNG is fine, but the amount of work for the higher level scrolls feels frustrating when 5/6 attempts result in a failure.

Or, if there was some sort of skill-based save you could do would be interesting. As in, you fail the initial learning chance, but if you can kill 5 drifters that spawn within 30 seconds, you still learn the spell. No idea if that's even code-able in the VS system, but it would give a little more player agency than just RNG alone.

As always, appreciate your work on this and your other mods!

LadyBlakeHammer Haha, I am not, but the old grind of the mod is definitely real. If it is too bad, I do have several config options to change exp rates, and even ritual/world magic conversion rates. :) 

Trug Yeah I am pretty deep in the v2 redesign, working on an achievement system atm. The essence vault can only be connected to 1 type of magic station at a time. That being said, you can have 1 nexus, dark nexus, light nexus, oculus, etc. In the new v2 update, the essence generators have a cap of 10000, and I am not sure what essence vaults or lacrimas are going to look like.

Vies, I know you're reworking the mod from the ground up, so this will probably be a moot point, but asking anyway. ;)

For the essence vault, is it intended to be a 1 input only block? When I try to connect multiple dark nexii to it, it disconnects the prior nexus when I link the next. It'd be really useful if you could chain multiple blocks to it, since it's the central essence battery block.

Are you a Warframe player, apparently one of my players are on about the grind. Lol

<Disclaimer, its a joke>

EuropanHookmouth You have options on the position of the mana bar in the configs. Look under the "HUD/GUI settings". Your choices are on top of health bar (default), on top of satiety bar, or on top of satiety bar higher up. I recommend everyone look at the config options. Out of all of the mods I used (a lot of them), I think I can confidently say my magic mod configs are by far the biggest. Second place is my machines mod, third is canjewelry.

Please add a way to re-lock magic or an accessibility option to hide the mana/magic level bar.

I unlocked magic on a multiplayer server and got very anxious due to mana bar sitting just above the health bar in a way that makes it difficult for me to pay attention to my health bar. It'd be nice to not have to see the mana/magic level bar when I'm not focusing on magic or using it even when I have it unlocked.

Or make it to where the mana/magic level bars can be moved below the HP or Hunger bar, please. The mana bar is higher contrast than the health bar, so it's difficult to see the health bar below it..

Raybro28 There are numerous guides in the mod. I have guides in the survival manual AND a separate ingame guidebook item that has pictures. There are multiple ways to get the info you want, but I suggest you look up the actual name, either "lesser arcanus", or just put in "arcanus" in the survial guidebook to find the item. If you spell it wrong, the item will not come up.

When you look at the item in the survival handbook, it says it is created by "World magic". You can type in "world" in the handbook search to find the world magic guides (there are 4 of them), or if you did a search with just "arcanus", you will see the guide for the world magic creation arrays come up in the results. It is the first creation array in that guide. Make a "Manual of Magical Arts" guidebook to see pictures of all world magic arrays.

 I'm trying to get into more of the magic, but I'm lacking a key resource; Lesse Arcana. I've looked over the guide again and again but seemingly nothing explains how I can aquire it. This has been driving me nuts all day. How the hell do I get Lesser Arcana?????

It would be nice for the guide to be a bit more clearer on the first steps of using magic for new magic users like me.

Just throwing an update here, I am pretty deep into a v2 rewrite of this mod. As it sits currently, I will wait until 1.20 to do a general release of the new update. Too many people do not read either the page info, or changelogs, and most items will disappear in existing worlds. I am trying to avoid a lot of the "my items are gone" complaints I know I will definitely get. This rewrite completely changes most items, and feedback on the new flow so far seems pretty well received. The last thing I need to do will be to get the new spellforge online and I will have alpha versions for testing. 

This being said, the mod doesn't exist in the same capacity anymore, so any bugs or feature requests are postponed until I get the new alpha version out and get feedback on it. For highlights and what not, check either Discord or catch a livestream via twitch, with vods through Youtube. I moved primarily to my own discord for mod discussions, not being able to pin things got old fast.

Hazel344 I think at the stage of the game you're in you'll want to use the Destruction: World Magic to turn rusty gears into 4x temporal fragments each.  Traders or farming the boss should give you a large amount of gears which can then be converted into a large amount of temporal fragments.

Im enjoying the expanded spells so far, summoning doesnt have a whole lot going for it right now though. on a personal opinion i would love to see it expanded more. maybe like summoning mobs and the like. anyways great work!!

either another class called rune smith or a added feature similar to where they also can help out a smithy with weapons and armor by forging runes onto items to enchant them would be a fun idea.

how do i use the admin tools?

..i think im dumb but iv no idea how

Hey man, really love the mod, it's fantastic! I think it's a really engaging magic system that fits really well into the style and gameplay of many of Vintage Story's progression mechanics.

I just wanted to comment about an issue I've been experiencing with the mod.

Currently I have an issue where my mana bar/xp bar are not displaying correctly. It seems that I have a different bar overlaid atop my actual bar. It varies, either giving me something like +8 or +2 extra mana. Naturally, when meditating, this mana doesn't fill up - however the meditation continues and thus temporal stability can drop endlessly. The real issue (for me) isn't this, but just not being able to see what my actual mana/xp is at. Sometimes the real bar comes back.

I think this is an issue with XSkills "Huge Stomach" perk, which adds 500 saturation. The saturation bar can often flicker between 1500, and the extra values added by this mod's perk. I'm wondering if perhaps something about the way XSkills changes and displays this value is having an impact on Rustbound Magic?

Just thought I'd let you know about the potential issue. It doesn't seem like a gamebreaking conflict, it's just a bit annoying.

Thanks so much for your hard work!

Edit: I forgot to mention that when the mana bar returns to normal, it's usually after being attacked by something, but the effect is temporary. I hope this is useful!

Can you add a spell to change the direction of the wind or make the wind stronger? 

My game starts to lag heavily when I actually get the magic bar and everything. Previously my game was just fine now I'm lagging like crazy. Is there a resolution for this?

question in the latest vershion what unlocks the introduction pages in the manual of magic arts? i'm just starting on a new world unlocked my magic then made the book so if that what i did wrong then oops on my end.

Hey man! I love the mod, I think you're doing a great work. I've been playing with it for over a year in game and I love figuring out stuff, it definitely feels very thematic. Although, could you answer me a question? Is there any better way to get temporal fragments? I feel like I'm stuck in progression because I simply don't have enough temporal fragments to constantly create the arcanus that everything needs. I kill drifters every night, I manfight temporal storms just to get a few extra chances at some drops (Even though I'm a rustbound mage in wilderness survival with 10HP and would much rather cozy up to sand panning in these dangers), yet it always feels like I don't have enough of those? Did I miss anything obvious? I manage to get by with a lot of rust powder and shifting fibers by farming the options (Rifts, seeds) available, but it constantly feels like I'm starving for more temporal fragments.

Edit [08/11/24]: I give up. I made it to tier 3 before throwing the towel, needing 40 fragments for an ingot is insane, worse still is needing 8 ingots for some objects that you can produce in the oculus, not even counting what you would be consuming processing souls from lower tiers to higher tiers. This is insanely slow and there's not a single configuration that can be changed for that (even in the .jsons themselves, it's all packaged in the .dll). This is just awfully balanced numerically speaking, and it doesn't feel rewarding AT ALL, which is a shame because mechanically it's very well done (Reaaaally need to focus on that "Get magic on the player's hand early")

To summarize: Seriously need either to tone down all values related to temporal fragment counts, or add drop rate configuration to the configuration files, I played a full two-year game and got up to steel in more than 150 hours of gameplay and didn't even manage to create a single tier 3 object in the oculus. Also consider some additional way of creating (not converting) elemental crystals, because staying around portals tossing stones on the floor to break them is seriously slow and mind numbingly boring.

When casting a spell and whatever mana you would have had after casting won't be enough for the next cast, then the casting fails

For example:

Mana is 3/18
Casting Transmutation, takes 3 Mana

Expected: Transmutation is casted

Actual: Mana consumed, Transmutation is not casted.

Also this increases XP

I have a progression question. I've made a Arcanus Creation Array that requires a Light Manatorch which comes from a Light Nexus. I have a regular Nexus that creates Neutral Manatorches. How do you create a Light Nexus? Thanks!

@Vies

Just wondered if you would have complaints if I copied from your book system, and repurposed it for a project I'm working on. If I ever published it, I would be sure to reference you as its creator :)

@Vies
Encountered an error that crashes and corrupts the save by putting on the mage armor, specifically the archmage armor. Not sure if it's another mod I have or something wrong on this end but for some reason whenever I go to put on the archmage armor in creative mode the game instantly crashes.


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Alright, I give up.  How do you use the Transmog stones?  The only thing I can get them to do is say "Change, failed, select an option in the transmog stone..."

Well, how do I select an option? Holding the stone and holding F like you would for other items with selection menus does nothing. I tried placing on the ground with CTRL+Click and nothing happens.

EDIT: It's working now. CTRL+Click on the gound is opening the menu.

im loving the mod so far (granted ive only played with it for 6hours lol) but i seem to have run into an issue and i dont know if im just being an idiot or if its an actual bug, transmute spell doesnt seem to be doing anything, im trying to relight a manatorch while using a makeshift staff, i have full mana and the manatorch says "transmutable" when aiming at it, i tought maybe it was just an issue with the staff so i made a second one and the issue persists, i have tried restarting the game, starting another test world and even hosting a lan server to see if anyone else could do it and nothing worked, so im a little confused lol

from start to finish what i have done is --> 1 unlocked magic with 0 stability and using a rusty dust. 2. made a makeshift staff and used transmute on a few burntout torches (which didnt work) 3. made a nexus and made two manatorches. 4. did all of the things stated above 5. came here to see if anyone could help lol

How do you get mana potions, its says in the spellforge, or are they not full implimented yet?
Also is it possible for you to add a config that disable durability loss of grimores from death, just really hate that, aleast for when I have keep inventory on cause I have that on so we dont got to worry about death.

Does anyone know where the option to have only the rust mage be able to learn magic is?

@Vies
anyway youll be able to add an Admin Temporal Stabilzer to the mod? and same with the magic ward aswell.

would be awesome to get one that can be spawned in but has an infinite active timer for stabilizing an area

some areas of the world has great locations to build stuff, but are sometims not stable at all and my current map has spawn in a nice area but stability is only 60%

Beon I have never had this happen. Idk what to even tell you. I assume you are the only person on the server having this issue? Can you go into the negatives when casing spells? Is meditation still going? I would delete the configs to regenerate default values.

UnknownFox It feels like a mod is mucking up things. I literally tested yesterday and today, in survival worlds, letting the game just run while I did other things to watch the progress go. Riftblooms are 100% working as intended. Now the last phase, it is right on the 3 day cusp. The time calculations are what the base game uses, and they are not exact, like if you have 2 days, 23 hours, it says "about 2 days" when it is really 3 days.

InertFurry Yeah I understand what you are saying, this would fall under the whole "The mod is still coming together" aspect. So I have been vocal with this but I designed the mod to be MUCH slower paced. I hate that I run out of meaningful things to do on multiplayer servers. I wanted something that with enough time, I can become a flying god. Not everyone likes that approach. As for transmutation, that is a staple activation spell I chose to embrace. The reward from casting that spell starts to drop off at about 20+ max mana. Think of it like using an axe to cut down trees. The current mana regen system is about 1/3rd done. I have 2 other mechanics that needs to be added but just haven't had time.

That being said, I am working on the 2.X rewrite. I am deciding to go into a new direction. I am abolishing magic tiers and am leaning more on essence for early game, and making weaker spells tied to staffs to get magic into people's hands earlier. Each essence type will have its own path too. Nexus will be a lot of what the base mod already has, spell research, sanctum/staff, spell duplication, etc. The Light nexus is now the Celestial prism and opens up 'lunar magic', using talismans and phases of the moon to replenish mana and do things like call meteors. The Dark nexus is now the Devouring void and will open up soul magic, which will lean on rituals and sacrifices.

Not sure how to fix or whats causing it but everytime I log in (on a specific server) my max mana goes back to 19...

And the mana exp stays difficult to increase like im more than mana level 19. 

I am running into an issue with the riftblooms not wanting to bloom. I have updated to the most recent, uprooted my plants and replanted the new seed. They grow into the rift plant then say "Will mature in 2 days". I wait and it gets to "Will mature in less than a day" then 2-3 days later, it hasn't changed. I even went out and gathered fresh seeds and planted and only 1 of those matured to a full bloom that I could harvest for fiber and dust however it has locked into the same state as the others. If it matters, they are under ground, essentially next to the cellar but I recall they are not affected by normal things.

Have even re-uprooted them all a 2nd time and waited, no luck.

Edit: Another in game week with no luck. Any idea what the issue may be? Do have other mods but none that interacted with this one to my knowledge as it worked fine prior to the update.

@Vies the values themselves aren't neccessarily the problem. You say to cast bigger spells, but since it's connected directly to consumed mana you're limited entirely by your ability to regenerate it, which is largely a fixed speed. World magic, rituals and synthesis appear to be giving experience only as a byproduct of casting the spell to activate them, so again, spamming transmutation.  Even before all that, you need 25 mana (15 levels) of unbonused casting just to use the mage armor to grant that passive regen or reduce costs by enough that rounding would probably just eat the bonus...

So there: feedback more specific to 'wow getting started really sucks'.

I just noticed a typo on a few pages in the manual. On pages 11 and 13 in the world magic:shifting section it uses some entries for the destruction section, speciffically temporal fragments and charcoal

c1charge I think I will be designing out the enchantment system in today's livestream. The goal is to create an item that has an effect (elemental damage) that can be applied to any weapon. Then I have to intercept the tagged damage, and change the element to a magical one. Should be fun!

InertFurry Well I will give you a few optional answers to choose from here: The mod is still coming together? Relying on feedback? I don't have 40 hours a week to dedicate to just playtesting? All are correct. lol

So you CAN cast transmutation for a long time and trickle in exp, but I don't recommend it. You should be completing world magic, rituals, synthesis, farm crystallized memories, or make grimoires and cast bigger spells since exp is directly connected to consumed mana. Wear mage armor to help with mana regen. If that is not enough, go into the configs and lower the exp modifier config number. I made the mod in a way that you can set the speeds yourselves while I dial things in.

Why is getting to Tier 2 such a slog? It seems the only way to get there is to cast tier 1 spells constantly for in-game years at a time...

Vies That will be awesome! I was thinking more so that I have a modpack for my server with some custom weapons I made, and I was just wondering if I was able to add a property to the weapon by default so it always has elemental damage (Just a part of the base weapon). Ill keep a look out for that feature though!

Brambllstar Yeah idk why Fishing 2 is hijacking things in my mod. Leave my poor entities and block entities alone!

Trevorscow You may want to pick it back up with a knife and place it again. The update that changed riftblooms to the new seed types would of converted the old saplings to the seed version. The block entity would need a refresh to use the new time logic added. Picking it up and putting it back down would initilize the new timestamp variable to calculate the time.

ManaWei The mage armor needs a redesign. I like the model, but the way the game re-renders player armor shapes when picking up items (going into the bags, not a hotbar) lags on complex armors. I need a simple yet mage feel kind of armor shape to use. As for the pictures, I am doing a v2.0 rewrite atm and did a pass through the guidebook images. This could be fixed. lol

I added the handbook entries to make it easier for people to search information. It basically came to a pros and cons list with player feedback. You are the first person who has said they liked everything coming from the guidebook. The new system has the explanations in the handbook with direct links, and the guidebook is kind of like the bestiary of the mod. More pictures with simple descriptions. A big con of the guidebook was the limited space for text. Always up for more feedback though! Got an idea how I can use the guidebook more? :D 

Oh hey Vies
Just wanted to let you know that your other headslot and the hair is clipping through your wizard hat.. like.. my big Baboo cone hat is showing.. 
Oh and you might ofc already be aware of this but a lot of the pictures in the stations section of the book are not showing..

Also why did you add the handbook entries?
I actually kinda liked that the manual did all the explaining.. It was kind of a novel idea <3 
Maybe just a short guide telling the player to make the manual and then linking to the grid recipe, sure.. but as i said it was kinda cool it was the just the manual :p

Been loving the mod so far- but my Riftbloom sprouts all say "Will mature in less than a day."  Several in-game days have passed, and I'm getting the feeling that my children will never grow up 😕

Not sure what could be causing this.  The only other mod I have activated is a skills mod right now.

Vies I had the fishing 2 mod installed, and that's what was causing nothing to work. Removed it and now I can finally do things! Thank you and CIGRyneaver a ton for the help!

@c1charge I do plan on making an enchanting system to give elemental damage modifiers to weapons. That would be a tier 3 kind of thing. I would want you to attune to an element and be able to make modifiers based on your element.

@Brambllstar The default nexus (blue one) consumes items to make essence. Place rusty dust, temporal fragments, arcanus, etc, in the bottom itemslot. The hover text will tell you what it can take. The runes around the base act like an on switch and if a valid item is in the bottom fuel slot, it will start processing it.

Transmute is a catalyst spell that interacts with some things. To trigger world magic, you need to draw out the creation array with the runes, place a light manatorch in the center, then press 'Q' (throw) at least 2 temporal fragments in the center. Then cast 'Transmutation' in the center. There can also be mods that affect my mod. I think fishing 2 messes with my transmutation spell.

I've made a default nexus and suounded it with chalk, and it says it's resonating but it stays at 0/1000, and any manastones I put in never turn into manatorches, even when I use the transmute spell on it

I also went into creative to give myself a light manatorch to create lesser arcanus, followed the steps in the book and still nothing happens. I can't even create a dark or light nexus because I cannot get the required torches to change the base one into a different version

if it at all matters I run it on a server I have with a friend, with several other mods installed

edit: I never actually tried with a temporal fragment before now, since it didn't work with rusty dust. However transmute still seems to do absolutly nothing

Nexus's are required to be surrounded by runes made using arcane chalk. Chalk is made using rusty dust and a stick in the configuration below.

Below I have several nexus's chained together sharing runes but you don't have to do this. Just make sure all spots on the ground are filled with runes around your nexus.

Light Nexus's only work during the day currently. and slowly generate essence.

Dark nexus's like the one in the picture work at night and kill monsters to create essence.

Standard (blue) nexus's use items like temporal gears and temporal fragments as Fuel to create essence. You place them in the "lacrima" spot

Also, create a manual.

Hope this helps!

Ryneaver

I have a major issue where important parts of the mod are refusing to work, namely world magic and the nexus. The nexus refuses to do anything despite showing it's working (ie doesn't make manatorches or hold any internal power.) world magic also refuses to do anything even when I set it up right in creative. idk if there's any known issues with other mods stoping cretain things from working outright or not but I cannot find anything about these issues anywhere if someone could please help me

Hello! I was wondering, is there a way to grab your elements (rust, fire water, ect...) and patch them onto other weapons so they also deal that elemental damage in a way similair to how you have shown to give entities weakness, resistance, or strength to them? I would love to give some of my custom made weapons elemental effects!

I guess the rng hates me! Its like in everquest at old school FBSS camp. screw you frenzied ghoul!

I could have sworn I tried 8 with one torch in the past and it had only created 2 and left me 4 temporal fragments. You are absolutely correct that it doesn't do that and I am likely smoking crack or something...maybe i just dreamed it!? I think the number given out is fine its a good balance.

CIGRyneaver Thanks for the feedback!

So I looked at the crystals and they did have a 25% chance to drop a fragment. I upped it to 50% and made a config option for people to change it. Not sure how it failed that long for you, but in singleplayer and multiplayer, it worked fine for me, though it was low and I had streaks of no drops because it is true rng.

Glad you like the riftbloom change, I just made a config option for see drop rates too so that should help.

For world magic stuff, just change the config world magic batch amounts. It defaults to processing 4 at once if you are making arcanus of your same magic tier. As for the manatorch cost, I consume all manatorches in the array, so it is up to the mages to put the right amount of torches in the right places. I did this because it is a pain to specifically check individual spaces. If more people notice it ans want me to change it to only take the manatorches it should, I can devote some time into it. I think you saw that behavior, plus the cap I mentioned.

If you find anything else, throw it into the Discord! I don't check these comments that often, especially when things get busy.

Hey @Vies,

Tested out the new release. I noticed yesterday that as I was laying stones next to a portal they would turn into unstable rift crystals but they would never drop any elemental fragments. I tried about 40 times.

I did like that all my regular rustblooms were changed into seeds and immmediately started growing.

Also, Using world magic at tier 1 you can add an extra light torch and an extra 4 temporal fragments and get a full 4 arcanus at once rather than only 2 if you use 1 torch and 4 fragments. Adding anymore torches and fragments doesn't do anything extra. Your extra fragments stay but the 3rd torch is eaten.

If I find anymore interesting things or bugs i'll post them here and in the youtube comments.

@ManaWei It is all good, work keeps me plenty busy too! Not sure about this issue. Mods could still absolutely impact my mod, try using the fishing 2 mod and casting transmutation. lol The nexus/oculus blocks have been the same for a long time now. Best thing to do is to post this issue on the VS Discord chat for this mod. I can get more info and see if other people experienced this. I can't replicate this. Tried and actively play my mod these days on my server and haven't noticed anything.

Hey Vies

Sorry for the late reply (busy with work).. Always making sure to run the latest version but it's consistent.. and i just tried your suggestion of disconnecting both and reconnecting.. but no luck.. no fix.. 
Think perhaps it's related to the game thinking it's the same Nexus somehow ? I have a ton of mods running, but it shouldn't impact the mod at all..

Original msg read:
"I'm having an issue here. I have 3 Light Nexus..
1st bound to the Oculus, 2nd supposedly bound to the Spellforge, and one free at the house just because (and light torches)..
The issue is everytime i try bind the 2nd Nexus to the spellforge, the 1st one bound to the Nexus frees up.. and the Oculus starts to drain from 2nd Nexus as well.. 
And when i rebind the 1st one to the Oculus, the 2nd nexus frees up.. is that intentional? becuase it seems a bit off.. "

@Dobrogost Thanks! Hope the update helps answer people's questions. Those handbook guides are such a pain to do... With this update out, I will be posting in the VS Discord for this mod what the new mod redesign is going to be. Think I finally figured out a way to make it easier to jump into and not just bombard people with 7 different systems at once. I will be livestreaming later today as well about 3:30PM EST to take in feedback on my ideas too. Going to be fun on a bun!

Thanks. I will try to find it and to understand how it works. Great mod. A lot of work. Thanks again. Not complaining. Not easy to understand how things works in your mod. But this is magic =] Heavy on the Magick i did play on ZX Spectrum a long time ago. So, magic never was easy =]

New update 1.9.70 is out! READ THE CHANGELOGS! Riftblooms have a new life cycle. Harvest your rusty riftblooms before updating or they will go away! You have been warned.

@Dobrogost Look at the guidebook for my mod. Craft it withrusty dust and fiber. Whole section on it there.

how to get lesser arcanus?

created by world magic... what is world magic? rifts? am i need to look around rifts? or am i need to place something under a rift?

The update I am releasing soon focused on reworking the guides among other things. There will be dedicated guides in the handbook with some links directly to items in question. The old "Beginner's Guide to Magic" book is now called the "Manual of Magical Arts" and has more of a 'bestiary' feel with pictures of things like magic stations, utility blocks, world magic arrays, rituals, etc.

GingerTail ah, thank you. i thought it was a guide like everything else in the game, not a physical book i had to make. problem solved, thank you again.
now i just need to figure out how to make the armor. none of the crafting recipes are showing, bc of course they're not

Sofcrew I'm learning the mod as well atm you should be able to find Beginner's Guide to Magic by typing "GUIDE" in game's handbook, it's a very cheap recipe. Meditaion  is explained in the guidebook.

this page says to check the in game guide, the in game guide says to check "Beginner's Guide to Magic", which does not exist in the handbook. it exists here luckily, but i cannot get past that. more and clearer documentation would help a lot. i see meditation is a thing, but nothing says how to do that. or how to level up. am i missing a wiki???
i can't cast the transmutation spell bc i don't have enough mana, and it's not recovering. I see there are blocks you can make with clay, but nothing says how to use them (unless i'm missing something)

Yeah, that was the fix. That sucks cause the idea behind it is cool.

Yeah, looked at the comments on that fishing 2 mod and it seems like there are some things that need to be worked out in that mod. Best thing I can suggest is to use that mod at your own risk. Nothing I can do if it doesn't play nice.

Mykeal

I've been noticing that myself, narrowed the culprit down to the Fishing mods' new 2.0 update. I ended up disabling it and have not had any more issues.

Vies transmutation finished casting but the projectile wouldn't spawn, throwing an exception each time it was cast if not just kicking players for the exception

I'll test this myself later today to try and narrow down the offending mod

@Kinross07 I think I figured out a better info system. I will have the handbook and guidebook work together. I am currently making new handbook guides for my magic systems that are labeled in order of magic progression that go into more details and will have handbook links to specific items and other systems in the game. You will start with that. I will parts in the handbook guides that will refer you to my new guidebook "Manual of Magic Arts", that will have all of the pictures, so if you need the visual, you got it. So far it is looking pretty good. Got all of tier 1 migrated over. Just need to add the prism of duplication and rituals guides in the handbook, then add the section for utility blocks in the Manual of Magic Arts.

@AstralDragon If you had infinite mana, either I did something wrong, or you were playing in a world/server with no temporal stability or custom stability rates.

@Mykeal I need a bit more info since I can't replicate this in either singleplayer or my server. Did transmutation complete the cast? Did you hear the "thwomp" sound effect? Did you see the projectile? Were you on a server or in single player? Did it consume mana?

In my testing, I don't have this volume of mods and I don't have the time to filter out and test 50+ mods to see if something in conflicting with my entity projectile. The line this error hits on has to do with making a collision box out of the selection box in the Entity Initialize method. My first thought is a mod is modifying my entity and doing something with the selection box? If you can narrow it down to a mod or 2, I can look into it further.

Vies Got a exception with rustbound magic, tested with 1.9.33, 1.9.30, and 1.9.27

6.6.2024 23:48:07 [Event] [playerlist] Loading config from C:\Users\*\AppData\Roaming\VintagestoryData\ModConfig\playerlist.yml
6.6.2024 23:48:08 [Notification] External Origins in load order: modorigin@C:\Users\*\AppData\Roaming\Vintagestory\assets\creative\, modorigin@C:\Users\*\AppData\Roaming\Vintagestory\assets\survival\, mod@ACulinaryArtillery 1.1.5.zip, mod@axleinblocks_v1.0.19.zip, mod@barstogears.zip, mod@barstotemporal.zip, mod@BetterCrates_v1.7.1.zip, mod@BetterTradersv0.0.7.zip, mod@BuzzyBees-v1.0.2.zip, mod@CraftableCompanion.zip, mod@fantasycreatures_0.7.1, mod@Immersive Corpse Drop (1.19).zip, mod@MoreClasses_v1.2.5.zip, mod@MoreTorchHolders.zip, mod@pipeleaf_1.6.0, mod@Plumpkins-v1.0.2.zip, mod@ProximityProspectingPick_v1.0.1, mod@qptech1.15.1, mod@RepairableLocust.zip, mod@Swordz 1.1.7, mod@temporal_gears_stack v1.zip, mod@translocatorengineeringredux_1.5.1.zip, mod@UpgradeableLocust.zip, mod@ABCSReborn-v.0.2.1, mod@alchemy_1.6.32, mod@animationmanagerlib_0.8.8.zip, mod@CarryOn-1.19_v1.7.4.zip, mod@compostgrass-v1.2.2.zip, mod@electricity_0.0.11, mod@ExpandedFoods 1.6.9, mod@FromGoldenCombs-1.19-v1.4.30.zip, mod@gimmeoneseedplz_1.0.3.zip, mod@herbarium_1.2.0, mod@krpgenchantment_0.2.9.zip, mod@lib2d_1.0.0.zip, mod@Mushroomz 1.0.2.zip, mod@Not_OnlySpear_Expantion_by_Kanahaku-v.0.1.1.zip, mod@OneBedSleeping_v2.4.1, mod@petai_v2.2.4, mod@PlayerList-1.8.1.zip, mod@pottery-wheel_v1.1.1.zip, mod@ProspectTogether-1.3.0.zip, mod@rustboundmagic_1.9.27.zip, mod@SharableWaypoints-1.5.4, mod@steamandpower_1.5.0.zip, mod@vsimgui_1.1.5.zip, mod@vsquest_v1.2.0.zip, mod@youvegotmail_1.0.7.zip, mod@APanserbjornStory-v0.9.2-1.19.zip, mod@CaptureAnimals_VS1.19.7_net7_v2.7.0.zip, mod@cats_v2.0.2_petai_v2.0.+.zip, mod@expanded_matter-2.6.0.zip, mod@feverstonewilds_1.5.0-rc.2.zip, mod@fishing_2.0.2.zip, mod@foxtaming-1.4.0, mod@fsmlib_0.4.5.zip, mod@HelveHammerExtensions_VS1.19.0-rc.5_net7_v1.6.0.zip, mod@PlayerCorpse_VS1.19.7_net7_v1.10.1-rc.1.zip, mod@wolftaming_v2.1.2_petai_v2.0.+, mod@xinvtweaks_v1.6.2.zip, mod@maltiezcrossbows_0.3.11.zip, mod@maltiezfirearms_0.5.4.zip, mod@MoreRoads 1.5.7.zip, mod@tailors_delight-1.5.0.zip

6.6.2024 23:52:46 [Error] Exception: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at rustboundmagic.src.common.entity.projectile.EntityProjectileSpellTransmutationRM.Initialize(EntityProperties properties, ICoreAPI api, Int64 InChunkIndex3d) in C:\Users\Vies\Documents\GitHub\Mods-VintageStoryNet7\Mod-RustboundMagic\rustboundmagic\src\common\entity\projectile\EntityProjectileSpellTransmutationRM.cs:line 82
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.SpawnEntity(Entity entity, EntityProperties type) in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMain.cs:line 2330
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.SpawnEntity(Entity entity) in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMain.cs:line 2274
at rustboundmagic.src.system.spells.Transmutation.OnCastStop(Single secondsUsed, ItemSlot slot, EntityAgent byEntity, BlockSelection blockSel, EntitySelection entitySel, Boolean isspellscrollIn, Boolean inprismofmagnificationIn, Boolean inprismofduplicationIn) in C:\Users\Vies\Documents\GitHub\Mods-VintageStoryNet7\Mod-RustboundMagic\rustboundmagic\src\system\spells\innate\Transmutation.cs:line 132
at rustboundmagic.src.common.item.ItemToolSpellcastingRM.OnHeldInteractStop(Single secondsUsed, ItemSlot slot, EntityAgent byEntity, BlockSelection blockSel, EntitySelection entitySel) in C:\Users\Vies\Documents\GitHub\Mods-VintageStoryNet7\Mod-RustboundMagic\rustboundmagic\src\common\item\tool\ItemToolSpellcastingRM.cs:line 1361
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerSystemInventory.callOnUsing(ItemSlot slot, ServerPlayer player, BlockSelection blockSel, EntitySelection entitySel, Single& secondsPassed, Boolean callStop) in VintagestoryLib\Server\Systems\Inventory.cs:line 522
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerSystemInventory.HandleHandInteraction(Packet_Client packet, ConnectedClient client) in VintagestoryLib\Server\Systems\Inventory.cs:line 380
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.ProcessNetMessage(NetIncomingMessage msg, NetServer mainSocket) in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMainNetworking.cs:line 138

Oh can you not get infinite mana anymore? Rust Mage starting class doesn't seem to show up either in my game, odd.

Totally understandable (and I can't work the @replies so we'll leave that for another day) and I'm glad that I don't have to wake up in a cold sweat over how to get information across. I probably didn't do myself any favours by trying to beat my head against the wall until it made sense. Took a break for a couple of hours and now realise that I was misunderstanding the rune instruction for the nexus. At the very least it's now doing something xD

@Kinross07 No reason to apologize, questions are welcome. It is how we change things to make things better for the next person. This mod is unique. These magic systems are not simple and like with a manatorch you have multiple ways you can craft them. Nexus is the first, slow and produces single torches. When you get an oculus going, you can start batch creating these torches pretty fast. I have to fight the constant battle of how to tell people how to use the mod and how the systems work, on top of making sure multiple sources are up to date. Keep in mind that some people do better with descriptions and reading text, others do better with pictures. It is the worse part of making this mod, 100%. On any of my livestreams, I usually mention at least once that I hate the guidebook/handbook.

This being said I have 2 really ways to describe things and have guides and I think I need to pick between them going forward.

1.) Using the in-game handbook.
    Pros:
        - Base game souce everyone knows how to use.
        - I can have links directly to item/block entries in the guides.
    Cons:
        - It is a nightmare to use. It uses a single localized string so the longer the guide text is, the harder it is to keep your facts straight. Imagine reading a short story in notepad, in a single runon line. I have to copy/paste the entry from the lang file into notepad, try to do the formatting changes and proof read everything, then paste it back in with no extra " to screw up the json formatting.
        - No image support. No way to show pictures of like rune positions or anything. If there is support, no one I know knows how to do it.

2.) Using the guidebook I made.
    Pros:
        - Can use images to try to show what I am saying.
        - Breaks big guides into smaller lang keys (1 per page) so I don't have to burn my brain adding info like I would need to using the handbook.
        - I like the fact that the guidebook is a physical item that exists in the world. Reminds me of all of my favorite mods for MC.
    Cons:
        - Limited space to describe the processes. The guidebook graphics and gui can only be so big and images take up space.
        - Only have so many side tab spaces until I will need to make a new guidebook.

Not sure which one to lean into here. Suggestions are welcome. If you have any questions, try the VS discord chat for this mod. We got seasoned people in there. Any suggestions in there are welcome too. I rarely check these comments with everything I have going on. Discord is faster.

Apologies if this seems like a series of daft questions, but I've been staring at this for a couple of hours and I'm just lost. Quick start guide directs to a craftable book, which takes us to learning about blooms and  rusty dust. The "Unlocking Magic" page on magic stations looks like it's missing half the text, but get the general gist that I need to build a nexus and a ritual altar. Okay, so far so good. Ritual altar needs lesser arcanus, which needs the chapter on world magic/Arcanus Convergence. This suggests that I need temporal fragments and a variation of a mana torch.

Looking up "manatorch" in the handbook says that these are crafted by the Nexus or Synthesis. Synthesis requires a multiblock structure, which requires lesser arcanus, which requires a manatorch. Okay, maybe the nexus is the way to go. Build a nexus, and put it in the world. Hovertext says "The nexus is silent, complete magic runes to turn on", right click opens a cook menu that takes mana stone, rusty dust and essence lacrima. Add the stone and dust, then find that the essence lacrima needs tier 2 synthesis. Think, "okay, maybe I can get by with just the dust and the stone" but nothing 'lights' the fire. I've tried regular torches, transmuting, even spawned in some manatorches just in case and nothing. I must be missing something blindingly obvious but I can't see it in the crafted book, the handbook, or this modpage.

Part of me wonders if there's something wrong with my transmutation as it doesn't do anything to saplings of any kind or growth state, but I just want to know what I need to do to get anything working. I'm hoping that after this first major hurdle everything else just falls into place. Do I need to just keep casting transmutation at leaves until I hit a certain level? When I unlocked magic it told me I was level 1 in everything, but I don't know how to view my general status overall (beyond my basic 'mage level' based on the bar above my mana).

I know that this isn't written particularly well but I feel like I've stared through the rift myself and have gone insane xD

@Pryde Yeah I see that, honestly I need to redo those images anyways. I need to explore the options for the guidebook. This update is focusing on clean up and bug fixes so there will be more info in hovertexts in guis, more stuff in block info, and more info crammed into the in-game handbook. A lot of the size of this mod comes from this guidebook, so those pictures need to be low res, so I need to see what I can do with the guidebook. I may try to make it bigger too (size of the pages), but not sure.

@Tyrosien Good catch, I think I got a fix in for it, just need to test it in multiplayer when I get time.

@ManaWei First thing I need to ask is what version of my mod are you using? I had a few times recently where people are using my old 1.7.X version and I have been chasing bugs I fixed already. This was a bug that should of been fixed. If not, best thing to do is to change the leyline resonator took to disconnect mode, reset the blocks with it, then try to connect them again. I have been actually playing with the mod and have had no issues where leylines are acting weird.

I'm having an issue here. I have 3 Light Nexus..
1st bound to the Oculus, 2nd supposedly bound to the Spellforge, and one free at the house just because (and light torches)..
The issue is everytime i try bind the 2nd Nexus to the spellforge, the 1st one bound to the Nexus frees up.. and the Oculus starts to drain from 2nd Nexus as well.. 
And when i rebind the 1st one to the Oculus, the 2nd nexus frees up.. is that intentional? becuase it seems a bit off.. 

Super thanks for some awesome mods <3 

Unsure if this issue is just because of the server I'm in. In multiplayer, if someone is killed while you're mid casting a spell it will stop your casting. Doesn't matter where they're located.

@Vies im having trouble reading the image on Synthesis Imgur: The magic of the Internet

@Pryde Most of the info is in the guidebook and handbook. Does the font size come up weird? Can you show what is happening?

Hello im having some issues reading the beginner's guide is there better images somewhere online

@OliverRook Thanks for the feedback! I just made a minor change in the handbook stating "light manatorches" are created with the "light nexus" and "dark manatorches" are created with the "dark nexus". In the GUI for the nexus blocks, I added resulting items/behaviors in the hovertext. Hope that clears it up.

For more info, make the "Beginner's Guide to Magic" and read the Essence and Synthesis sections. You can find the book's crafting recipe in the handbook.

I will mention, the way to get manatorches isn't very specific and seems to potnetially be misleading?
I can't really find any section that explains specifically how synthesis works and getting your first mana torches.

@Beon Good catch, the new update has the correct info.

It seems crystal creation is bugged. Can't make any from fragments...

 May be turning off a visual effect in a config would help? Cuz with in the 1st-person mode everything works. Anyway, thanks for an answer. Vies

@Mizzar Not much I can do here. RMB is using a PerceptionEffect, and the method that crashed is an exact copy and override of a Drunk effect method. It specifically is failing because a shape matrix isn't being passed right. Idk the other mod there and what they are trying to do, but a vaild Single[] modelMatrix needs to be passed into their loadModelMatrixForPlayer in their shape renderer. 

If it is possible, can you add compatibility with kemono mod? Game works fine until I press F5 than crush. It seems, RBM can not apply buffs cuz playermodel is changed and has unregistered name or something, im not a hackerman. Thank you.
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Make sure you are using the most up to date version of the mod. There was an old issue where rifts were more aggressive and affecting wildcraft plants, along with others. That was fixed. I planted a much of marigolds, and rifts are not touching any of them.

I wasn't able to get marigolds to show hours left. Is that timer a default thing? Without getting a timer at all I can't look into this.

Rifts break herbs and flowers from Wildcraft: Herbs & Spices when the rifts turn wildcraft plants into "rift blooms" then turn back it breaks their growth cycles, such as trimmed flowers/herbs will never grow back, and newly planted sporuts will never regrow.

Picture of a herb that has been trimmed normally:
https://prnt.sc/lGk2ZwMT1r3V

Picture of a cut herb that has turned into a riftbloom and turned back: (note the timer is completely gone now)
https://prnt.sc/qDMeoOIIIV2C

@KnightessOruna The mod is as safe as any other mod you would add to the game, and no, you don't have to be a rust mage to use magic. They DO get traits that make them a bit better at it though.

@Neferashnix Thanks! Someone just pointed that out in Discord. I just released 1.9.0 to fix that and add a few more spells.

Testing out 1.8.7 in a fresh creative world. The Ritual of Creation only seems to work for fire & frost elemental fragments, the other six fragments elements aren't working.

I've had no issues getting seven of the elemental fragments from unstable & impure elemental crystals, but I haven't seen any fire fragments yet.

Can I safely add this to a ongoing playthrough and do I have to play rust mage to use the magic?

The new update is out! This is a big one. The amount of changes and rewrites was pretty staggering. All bets are off now. lol 

is there a way to remove your progress from the mod without uninstalling the mod? im on a very crappy set up and kind of lag when doing magic so i would wanna know if theres a way to remove it from myself on a server

Not sure if this a intended or a bug.
Riftblooms have 3 stages 

1. Riftbloom sprout 
2. Riftbloom 
3. Rusty riftbloom

You can harvest a Riftbloom and recieve Shifting fibers
You can harvest a Rusty riftbloom and recieve Rusty dust and Shifting fibers  (all makes sense so far)

The issue might be with how the plant progresses.

If you harvest a Riftbloom then it will go straight from the Riftbloom sprout to a Rusty riftbloom at the same time point it would have developed into a Rusty riftbloom from the Riftbloom you harvested earlier.

IE say the each stage takes n amount of time so to go from Riftbloom sprout to Rusty riftbloom it would take 2n.

If at any time < 2n and > n  you harvest the Riftbloom it will still turn in to a Rusty riftblom at 2n.

The time for growth stage and next stage is not reset when the plant is harvested if it is harvested at the Riftbloom stage.

for your familiar idea, i think that would be fantastic, hear me out tho, make it a T1 spell but let there be a version in each tier that makes it stronger and stronger, and have a variety of familiar forms that have their own pro's and con's for use. i know that would be alot of work but having a familiar early on to help make me want to keep going would be cool

*NOTE* I figured it out.  I didn't realise the slots are tied to the magic level.  So at level 1 I guess you can only have 1, and actually 1 spell per level, spell besides transmutation. :/

Another bug. 
Apprentice robes, trousers, and hat don't list megaweave as a need ingredient and when it come time to add it into the oculus the image of the megaweave does not appear above the pedestal.

I got no problem using fertalize at level 1

@Vies
Firtilize 1 can be obtained at Magic Tier Level 1 but can't be used until Magic Tier level 2.  
I'd say that either it shouldn't obtainable at Tier 1 or it should be usable    
Silent Steps I has the same behaviour.

Carolusclen, maybe you can set options up in the clumps mod so it only makes clumps if a set number of items drop on the ground (how ever many the most need to be droped in rituals 4 maybe +1 ... soooo 5 if thats the case)  that way you can drop the items and the mod won't clump them?

The Apprentice hat lists "Mana regen: +2 per second" in its attributes. Is there something that needs to be done to make this actually take effect? Because it's not doing so passively and it doesn't seem to impact the speed of meditation either. I have soulbound it with no change. (On which note it's not clear what soulbinding does, and I hesitate to make assumptions.)

Hey there

Just a small thing I noticed, so I play with the mod Clumps along side this mod.
Clumps basically does just that, multiple items laying on the ground get clumpped together. its greate for large servers where a lot of people are doing a lot of things that involve items on the ground
however

when I am doing world magic and have to "Q" multiple items on the ground of the same type, the Clumps mod puts them into 1 clump of 2 for example
now the chalk setup on the ground does not recognise the clump as a clump of 2 items so it does not work. I had to remove the clumps mod

I am not really asking for you to add support and its not really a bug, just the natuire of the mods, but thought Id mention it on the off chance you may in the future add support for clums and such :D

thanks for this amazing mod though, really enjoying it.

Just gotta say - I've been dabbling with this mod as I play my first real Modded Vintage Story playthrough; Running between standard survival and building up magic and I have to say.. I like it so far!

Is the intention to make the build up rather long though? I was well into surviving my first Winter, into the second Summer before I even managed to craft a Synthesis machine and grab an Apprentice staff, everything before was setting up the Nexus, the Machine itself, and making a few dozen or so Lesser Arcanus to make up for all of it (Not to mention the Ritual structure for the Runeblocks!)

Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything - This mod certainly is a unique spin but it definitely doesn't seem to exactly be centered around offering an "Ease" into the early-game rather than be a "Mystical Expansion" of the Mid to Late game.

Edit: The Apprentice Hat synthesis recipe says it requires 2 Lesser Arcanus, 3 Rust Dust and 5 Eldrathium Ingots, but as I try to make it, the Pedastal says it requires Mageweave instead?

Vies

Nice, those look like interesting blocks would be nice to play a bit more with them. I wasn't thinking just anyone can do it, just the person that established the shield though. 

Question on Elemental Damage Modifiers.. I have the Fantasy mod that adds goblins and orks and dragons aswell as other mods that add dire wolves and such. I've noticed only drifters are droping temporal fragments. Is there a way to make the other mobs drop them aswell? Temp frags have been my biggest wall since I started magic.

Edit : Just kidding. I figured out the issue and why i've struggled so much. I only use spears. More specifically I hold a lot of spears and throw them. I've noticed when they die to the spear being thrown they do not drop fragments. But when I kill them without throwing they drop them almost every time.

@MadMephit Good catch! going a mile a minute with this stuff. I just fixed it. It may be a bit until I have an update. I am collecting all spell ideas and prepping for the big spell revamp. the next update will be a beast!

Description in the guide of how to make mana torches says to place regular torches in the colored item slot of the respective nexus, as opposed to the more accurate "place manastone in the top left slot". Caused me a fair bit of confusion.

@Odur27 Ooof! That is like going to an expensive all you can eat sushi bar because you wanted some fortune cookies! haha!

Joking aside, this isn't a config type thing that could revert it. I extended block torch in the beginning believing that was how I could get them to go into torch holders. I was wrong and the joke was on me...

You could maybe make a json patch for the manatorches to use "class": "BlockTorch" and "entityClass": "Torch", then in attributes -> transientPropsbyType -> *-basic-lit-*, set the inGameHours to something like 9999? That could work but if something messes up in the mod, like rituals stop working or something after messing with the manatorches, there isn't anything I can do to help that. If you want infinite torches, there are mods for that which may be easier to patch? That or just get mana lanterns?

@NarrowPuppet0 The idea behind some of the rituals of destruction is to recycle blocks or items in the mod that you may not have a use for, without making an infinite source of an item. My version of a deconstruction workbench. There are so many ways to get temporal fragments now, but not a lot of uses for say greater elemental crystals of an element type you no longer care about. That math you displayed there hits the nail dead on. I am also accounting for the inevitable random world loot from things like ruins or drops from elemental creatures, which is coming pretty soon actually. Would be nice to deconstruct what you don't need so it doesn't become a useless item.

So a question I have is about rituals to create temporal fragments. After deep diving in the handbook I found that the tier two destruction ritual costs 21 temporal fragments to preform in its entirety and only produces 10 - 20 fragments when completed. Cost breakdown following.

• 1 Destruction Talisman = 1 fragment
• 1 Greater Arcanus = 4 fragments
• The greater elemental crystal requires you to preform the tier one creation ritual 5 times to make the lesser elemental crystals for both the catalyst and stablizers 
• 6 Creation Talismans = 6 fragments
  • 5 Creation Talismans for making the lesser elemental crystals and 1 for making the greater elemental crystal
• 5 Lesser Arcanus = 10 fragments
  • All lesser arcanus used for making lesser element crystals

So what I want to know, is it intentional that this tier two ritual will not net positive any temporal fragments? Is it possible that I'm missing something? I want to make sure that I don't waste my time and effort spending the few fragments that I've been able to get my hands on.

I've been running this mod for one of our players, and having the ever-burning torch was really the only thing a few of us got out of it, any chance for an optional file to swap the old functionality in so torches don't go out and can be used as fire, please?

@morlanius That is something I have seen before, the server and client disagree with if the block should still exist, and the blocks you see are client side. The "Unstable" behavior is the issue. I just removed it and put a more robust check (one I use in the manastream generator) to clean up ward blocks. Should be in the next update. Probably a no go about zapping the barrier blocks. defeats the purpose of a barrier if anyone can just zap their way in. lol

@Asket If you have questions on something, chances are it is in the guidebook or handbook. If you are still stumped, you can go to the VS discord section for this mod. In this case it was right in the handbook in the "Magic tier ascension" under the sigil of awakening. It does sound like you did get it in the end.

@Odur27 Totally intentional. They were never meant to be real torches. It was my attempt to get them to work in torch holders. It isn't real fire, hence their ability to burn underwater.

As for the standing and crouching, it is just opening and closing the gui when you hold right click for the firepit. Not really a bug. When the gui is open, your sneak key will not be registeedr as held down so you stand, then the gui closes it seen the key is still pressed and you start crouching.

Not sure if it was intentional or not, but mana torches created prior to the updates no longer usable to light forges or cook fires, there is some kind of weird behavior where it makes you cycle between upright and crouching animation while trying to light a cook fire.

Asket

I beleive when you reach the right amount of mana a green arrow appears next to the mana meter and you click that.

How to progress magic to next level?
I've created a Sigil of Awakening but cant find right ritual.

Thanks in advance.

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Update:
I've found it's the done the same way you unlock magic - go to portal and with low sanity Shift + click it holding Sigil of Awakening. Took me a while.

Vies

Ah ok, good to know thanks. Would you be open to making the synthesis items scrolls so they can be stored in scroll shelves?

And there appears to be something wrong with the magic ward, I placed one on a runestone and tried it out, broke both. logged on the next day now I have a hovering magic ward that is duplicating itself when I try to break it. Same thing happens in creative too.

https://gyazo.com/1d042065e6437f9f821bb54553b20b68

It would also be cool if you could zap the barrier created by the magic ward and it open a hole big enough to walk though for a few seconds.

@morlanius Nope, but having a rift open near riftblooms accelerates growth by 4x. :)

@Azarael That is a long time issue. I use a few arrays to keep track of synthesis recipes during creation. Unfortunately I can't save these arrays in a block entity. I may put a 5 minute timer on synthesis recipes to kind of mitigate this, but nothing can really be done as of now. Best thing to do is to either try to reset the oculus by sneak + right clicking on the pedestal or use the leyline resonator to detach the pedestal from the oculus core. That forces a reset to synthesis and will drop all items previously used. Items are stored in an inventory in the oculus core.

@Asket Awesome catch! I put in the wrong mageweave type! lol I will fix this now. Prepare for a 1.7.4 release!

Does soil quality affect rift blooms?

Hello! Thank you for great mod!

Magic apprentice armor synthesis seems to be broken.

Description says "Eldrich nuggets" but Altar shows "Mageweave cloth" instead.

And neither of them is accepted to complete the operation, so you are locked out of armor :<

Hi! I am a massive fan of the mod. So far I am enjoying exploring the depths of what it has to offer. Keep up the good work! I will be posting suggestions as I near the end of the tree and hope I can provide any insight to the system in the future. Though there is ONE thing to note. If your system crashes or server crashes while you have objects inside of the Oculus you lose all reagents involved. Is there a way to retrieve lost essence and materials inside?

I am going to try to answer everyone! been more active in discord these days.

@King_Doggo You need to look at world magic in the guidebook. It requires some magic runes now.

@DiZek I did change the brightness and with that, range of torches kind of recently. I had some blotches of light in my test world after it. I put down a mana lantern and that forced the areas to recalculate the lighting and that stuff went away.

@Entity I appreciate your suggestions, you should join the VS discord sub section for my mod. I bring up these kind of changes and usually go with what most people want (with reason, of course). I see a couple of good ideas here that I will test out. I do want to go further with armor too, I just have a lot of things to either fix, redesign, or just straigh up add and I do this in my free time when I can. I did bring up making armor repairable, but people wanted me to work on prisms instead, so here we are.

I will say this, the next update will focus on the spells themselves (how they work, fixing old bugs, using the new particle system I made) and adding the prism system, so I will be looking for feedback in the VS Discord -> mods -> Rustbound Magic.

@RubberDuckyDJ not much to do about that, when you chisel something it stops being the original block (Manastone in this case). I tried to make the oculus as bare bones as I could so people can make what they want.

@Betface You may want to make the guidebook. I don't have every little thing in there, but there is a lot of useful info. I suggest joining the VS discord -> mods -> Rustbound Magic. People are really good an helping others figure some stuff out.

@Raukx I have to see what your mana bar looks like. It doesn't sound right. I put in a restriction for tier 1 so you could only get to 75 max mana before you had to level up.

@Elijahgrimm I put in a small handbook description saying it is created by world magic. Use the handbook to get the pattern.

Hello, I seem to be having trouble finding an item. A lesser Arcanus. I am not sure if it's something found naturally, or something you need to transmogrify, or what. There is nothing in the guide about it and the item's tooltip does not say how it is collected. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

I have max mana of 100, but have yet to see the green lvl up arrows... how the heck do I level up?

@Vies How on earth does one create an Oculus? I've been trying to figure out what blocks are missing for ages, but have no idea... I eventually figured out that I needed manastone to form a kind of 3x3 'portal frame', but it also has 4 white blocks in the top corners that I can't guess what they might be... anyone who can help? I've tried looking for videos/guides on this but can't find anything. I thought it might be runestone blocks but can't see any way to craft those?

https://imgur.com/a/8cNKMtR

chisling parts of manastone structures makes them stop working. I was wondering if you could fix this.

also mana torches do not work in aged torch holders. haven't tested them on regular torch holders though.

Some suggestions for transmutable things:
Ferns to riftblooms. Loose stones to impure elemental crystals. Boulders turn into a random lesser crystal. Casting on a placed elemental crystal would randomize it's element. Berry bushes randomize into a different type like how saplings do. Turn a tree directly into firewood. Cobblestone and rock, as well as gravel and sand interchange with each other, possibly adding aged and polished into the mix for more variety. Making living creatures transmutable would be interesting. Turn animals into different types of animals, chickens turn into rabbits or bighorn sheep turns into a wolf and vice versa. Alternatively, change animals into the opposite sex. Turn drifters into one tier higher each time as they get infused with more magic. Turn locust into sawblades. Transmute traders to reroll which kind of goods they trade. Transmute barrels full of dye into different colors. Change a patch of clay into another type. Turn a stacked pile of rusty gears turns into a temporal gear. Wooden doors, fences, and walls turn to a random type of wood. Unfired clay into fired clay.

I understand your stance with damage magic, I still think there should be something, anything other than just transmutation to start out with. Some kind of decay spell to make very early magic use more practical. Transmutation seems like it would be more of an advanced spell with the sheer amount of interactions it has with things. I'm dozens of hours into this server as a rust mage and I've basically used a bow and arrow the entire time while I wrap my head around everything this mod has to offer.

Magic repair kits or leather should work with repairing armor, seems like a waste to have a 0 durability armor just tossed aside for a new set of threads. Maybe also be able to break down the armor with a knife for some leather back.

Meditation could be used to slowly level up magic exp. You could also turn some spells into an effect that gets applied while meditating, like resist elements or reduce hunger for example.

The rituals to make arcanus was a nice gimmick at first, but after doing it about 3500 times I'm starting to get burnt out of the game. It's become a full time job trying to convert fragments just into greater arcanus. I can't even imagine the pain I'll endure if I put up with the grind long enough to get to tier 3 and 4 where I'll have to double and quadruple the rituals yet again. It also takes so incredibly long to level up, it will be year 30 before I hit tier 4 at this rate, and that's if I had an infinite supply of fragments. I strongly suggest reducing the amount of arcanus needed to craft things, 9 greater just for one tier 2 grimoire is excessive, thats 18 rituals just to make one thing. With the amount of rituals needed to make everything, you would think the mana lantern would be accessible much earlier, but it's one of the last things you unlock, after the bulk of rituals have already been completed. I love the mod, but this grind is not enjoyable.

I also don't enjoy spending all this time doing rituals and using half of a nexus worth of essence into making runic II scrolls just for them to fail 80% of the time when trying to learn a new spell. It's even worse when it eats more than one scroll at a time if they are stacked together. The crystalized memories also suffer from the bug of consuming multiple at a time, but I think the issue was worked around by making them no longer stack.

I've noticed another bug where Growth II doesn't actually grow the plant fully, instead it grows the plant to say 7/8 and is unable to take it up any further, making the tier 1 version far superior as it takes less time to cast and will fully grow the plant. 3000 essence and 18 rituals wasted!

Howdy!
Just wanted to share a bit of an issue that I was interested in sharing for future potential fixing.

All kinds of the Torches and a few of the Blocks that emit Light such as the Oculus seem to permanently emit light even persisting after being broken, leaving the chunk, restarting the game, and other times.
I am not quite sure why or how to consistently repeat this issue however here is a screenshot showing this exact issue!

https://imgur.com/Tuqzbcn

Heyo! Maybe it's just me, but casting Transmutation on a Sapling doesn't seem to change it at all? I just planted a Birch, wanted to see if it would become something else. Did the chalk outlines and everything! I gotta be missing something lol.

@Dagurmawth I have admin tools in the "Special" creative menu tab. There are tools that the player has to use but it only effects themselves. They are what I use for testing. I have a few questions about this crash, how far along were they in magic? Like magic tier, max mana? I don't see how this is possible to crash and have magic completely erased. I save magic in a few different watched attributes. If something major happened, they would of like lost their skin/voice and class too, since they are also watched attributes. More info would be appreciated!

@Entity I am glad you are enjoying it. For transmutation, what do you suggest to add? I get a lot of "need more transmutable things" but no one ever pitches any ideas on what it can effect! lol FEED ME IDEAS!!! As for a list, I have a vague list on this db page, but I wanted some mystery like thaumcraft. I never saw any list of things that you can scan. It was an open ended "explore the world" thing, and I loved it. Explore the world and look for blocks with the "transmutable" tag. If people pitch more ideas for transmutable interactions, I can add them, and if I get enough, I may make a list? Not sure.

As for the damage projectile, I want magic to be more than just the pew pew spells themselves. This is an open ended game, we all play with different "finishing points". Some people it is getting to steel, some people it is building their mega town, others it is the archive resonance. I wanted a mod that worked like an alternate path to a type of end game. The lore I am trying to cultivate is that you become aware of the concept of magic and the rust, and have to explore magic and study it. Make a nexus or 2 and get use to the idea of essence in the world. Use world magic to dip your toes into the concept of transmutation on a larger scale, that patterns and magic runes make different things. Scale up to a ritual altar area set up, and start producing greater effects. Make the oculus to magically combine things, then start reaearching grimoires. This is all introduced to tier 1. It is a tier that has a lot of things to learn. You just get stronger from there.

The bugs you experienced are not bugs either. There are 2 types of leaves, a branchy that has a collision box, and regular leaves that do not. Transmutation is a projectile, and it will pass through regular leaves, just like you, a wolf, or an arrow would. Sometime you have to get creative to make sure the spell expires right where you want it, or have it collide with a solid surface like the ground in this case. The temporal stability meter is part of the temporal stability system, every x,y,z coord can have a different stability regen effect. You could be in an area of low temporal stability. I suggest moving to find an area where the stability regens normally and coming back when you unlock Temporal stabilizers.

So far I'm enjoying the mod, I'm still very early into it but the idea is great. With transmutation being the only thing I can currently do, it would be nice to see many more things able to transmutate and also a cheat sheet added to the guide for what is transmutable and what it turns to. I'd also suggest introducing a way to deal magic damage as soon as you get a makeshift staff, seems like I have to craft everything all at once just to even get started with magic. Something like a new low damage projectile spell that will make use of an elemental focus in the off hand. Skyrim for example gives the player a flamethrower type of spell to start with, that would be a cool introductory spell that would synergize well with the focuses available. Short range and drains the mana per second, not sure yet how the other staves work but a higher tier staff or focus could potentially scale the damage up.

One bug that I've noticed is that if you transmutate a leaf block at eye level, the projectile will often go right through the block, the only way to consistently have it work is to aim towards the ground. There was another bug where I meditated and drained my temporal stability meter down to 0 and then it wouldn't regenerate back up at all. Luckily I had a temporal gear on me to force myself to regain stability, but I could imagine that ending badly otherwise.

one of my players crashed and lost their magic.  Are there commands or means to reset the system for a player?  He is unable to regain the magic meter.  He fixed it, was just having issues getting Stability to 0.  I'd still ask for commands and such for admins, in case problems arise.

@Suisei I am just about done with the next update. It is heavy oninfo, rewires the essence system with vast improvements, and a lot of qol. With the official introduction of "World Magic", you will have more ways to get temporal fragments and arcanus. Play testing it tonight hopefully. I need to see if I got the rust sickness debuff firing right.

@CyberVic Thank you for your thank you! lol I am glad you feel the Ars Magica, Thaumcraft and Witchery themes. In the beginning, I leaned on Ars Magic for core systems, then the rituals in witchery. The next plans are to add some of the thaumcraft themes, mainly magical utility blocks and my version of taint that I will call blight. Also, I appreciate the feedback, I just ninja'ed in a new tab at the top of the guidebook for unlocking magic. This guidebook is a WIP for sure, pretty new too so it is missing some stuff. This next update uses the handbook to add more info for most blocks and items too.

The idea going forward is the mod db site here will give you broad strokes, how to patch creatures to use the elemental modifier system, and what I want to add. The guidebook will give you the lore explanation, some detail, enough to get you going. The handbook catalogues specific info on each item, like marking something 'created by Synthesis', how rust plants work, or what gives rust sickness. I suggest those who are interested in giving feedback to hop into the Discord for VS. I have a chat in mods for this mod. I am pretty active in it and will ask for feedback for my hair brained ideas.

First of all thank you for your continued work on this mod. Decided to finally try it out and it feels like the best parts of Ars Magica, Thaumcraft, and Witchery combined. So excited to dive in.

One bit of feedback is that the "Getting Started" in the book is lacking the actual getting started steps listed here on this post. I'd prefer if they were in the book. I tried reading through the book and it wasn't obvious what I needed to do. It's od I'm being told about how to bind to a sanctum but I don't even know how to unlock magic yet.

I figured out that finding the stuff that drops off drifters and getting the blooms (step 1) was obvious, but it wasn't obvious at all that I needed to sneak right click to unlock level 1. After the fact I realize now you put it on the tooltip for the Rusty Dust, but I figured the book would tell me that especially as someone who came from Thaumcraft, Ars Magica, Botania, and Witchery.

Am i missing something with the temporal fragments? almost at the end of my first year and i've barely been able to make my first spell. The ability to obtain temporal fragments seem limited, There are rituals but they seem to barely even break even. The first ritual creating 5-10, I don't know if i am being unlucky but the arcanus costs 2, the talisman costs another 1, and then you add the elemental crystal it's adding another 3 adding up to 6. Which means on the low end doing the ritual may end with less then you had to do the ritual, The rusty gear breakdown ritual also only creates 2-4 but the cost to even perform the ritual is 3?

The best source i've come up with is killing the drifters as much as i can but even during a temporal storm i make about 17-25, which are almost instantly consumed

@Dr_Cummies Eldritch Monsters is in a weird position. The feedback I got form it was mostly people not liking it because either 1.) the monster models didn't work with the "theme" of the mod or 2.) the monsters are too hard. After I update ViesCraft Machines, I will be updating this mod. Not sure what to add to it yet, and not sure if the monsters in the current form would fit the magic mod. I would need to do some reskins maybe? It would be cool to have this mod be part of the magic mod. It would be easier to make the familiar system.

Personally, I completely disagree with both statements. I think the monsters are lovecraftian themed and as a clockmaker, I can kill anything with flint spears as long as it isn't 4+ on 1.

@CrusadingPriest Thank you for the kind words! ViesCraft Machines will be the next mod I update. Going to start that tonight actually. I am waiting to see how 1.19 plays out before thinking of more content for this mod. The rumor mill thinks that VS will have some kind of "flying contraption" soon? That or I may look at the mini dimensions to see if it is feasible to make multiblock structure machine. This would require a new mod. Don't want to spend time adding to a mod that could be deemed obsolete, you know?

@Suisei I have toyed with the idea of repairing armor. Only a few people wanted it and since the update where I buffed durability, you are the second to bring it back up. I could make a "magic equipment repair kit", maybe tie it as an exclusive craft recipe to rustmage, but anyone can use it if that sound good? Had an idea of while you wear the armor, you gain "exp" with it which gives you bonuses, and with that system, you need to be able to repair equipment anyways.

As for mageweave, it is like carpet, just a block that can be used for decoration. That and to make a few bags. Seemed silly to not do anything with shifting fibers.

Is there by any chance a way to repair clothing? or will there be a way in the future?
Also what is the use for the manaweave?

Love all of the work thats gone into this Mod. Its one of many that every server needs. Thank you so much. Also I was wondering if you had plans to update the Viescraft Machines mod?

love it! will you be updating eldrich monsters? or perhaps combining mods?

The new 1.5.10 update is out, we got a guidebook!

@Dannabis Yeah bracelets, amulets and what not are going to be tier 4 special equipment. The new update moved mana regen to the hat until I get the bastion system in.

@Zartain Just updated this site and the new guidebook is now in game. Craft it in the grid.

@Kinnik Hope I didn't kill the 'charm' of the mod by adding a guidebook! XD

@bringitonwimps I have literally libraries, multiple shelves worth of grimoires. I would need more info to see what you are doing?

@Frites A <3 for you!

@Dannabis they were nerfed soon there will be a temporary fix moving the regen bonus to the hat until vies gets the bastion underway if you have any more questions please reachout in the vintage story discord as both me and vies look there more frequently

We can't place grimoire books in bookcases, can put em on double shelves but have to put em on the bottom shelf and then theyu visually show them on the top shelf.  Is there a current storage bug with em?

Zartain

part of the "charm" of this mod is how obfuscated and compicated things are to learn. lol

I would recommend building all the stuff in "Magical Stations" section of the guide above as each step is required to access spells. It'll likely take you at least a couple of play sessions to learn some spells and how to use them, aside from the "transmutate" spell that you get when you first become a magic user.

Hey, question, is there actually a website? I cant even figure out how to open the spells. I dont see any guides

I'm excited for the new update!  But did you intentionally nerf bracets? :( Is there a replacement?

Stahl, Vies

Thanks for the help!

I have been swamped with irl and getting my visual studio code to fly right. I NEED HOT RELOAD WORKING. If anyone knows how to get it working, let me know! <3 Going to take a bit getting into things.

@Mohl best place for info is to look at the changelogs for v1.5.0. Basically place a ritual altar, put a talisman in the bottom colored slot depending on the ritual you want to complete, hold sneak and look at the altar to see what blocks need to go where, put the catalyst item in the top slot (look at changelogs to see what you can do), place stabilizers, cast transmutation on the altar.

@Oweyan I am making an ingame guidebook with pictures, it will be in the next update.

@bringitonwimps weird, what was the mod that the old bags were from? Never had that happen, but I am guessing it is an storage flag ID overlap? Would need more info on that.

@Mendall That's fine, not forcing anyone to use my mod. I don't get anything from making this except a mod to use for myself.

@ThreeHeadedDingo Kind of sounds like you haven't made a mod, because if you had to deal with the one lined, run-on, fun of making a custom localized handbook entry sized more than a few paragraphs, I don't think you would of said anything like this.

@SuaveSlob We have a pretty lively discord presence in the main VS discord in the mods section. Look at the v1.5.0 changelogs for details on rituals. The quick answer is to use a talisman of alteration in the bottom slot on the altar, an engraved manastone in the top, draw out the pattern and use light mana torches (hold sneak and look at the ritual to see where blocks go), place stabilizers ontop of the outer manastone blocks, throw 4 lesser arcanus in the ritual area (like press q to throw the items out), then cast transmutation on the altar.

@Stahl I just tested this and it did work for me. Ate up a drifter. It does only activate at night, the light nexus only generates in the daytime.

SuaveSlob You need light manatorches instead of regular manatorches. So first you need to create a light nexus using a different ritual, which uses normal manatorches, and craft light manatorches inside it. Put those into the 4 slots. Then throw lesser arcana at the altar and cast transmute on it. Put the crystals on the manastones for stabilization if you want to avoid explosions.

Vies My dark nexus doesn't seem to be charging in 1.5.7. (and 1.19.3). It was charging earlier but no more. 🤷‍♂️ Light nexus works fine.

I noticed this mod page is being updated after the latest release but I was hoping another mage could help me get started. I'm attempting to create some Lesser Runestones for the Oculus multiblock structure but I cannot figure out which ritual item I need to use for these last 4 block placements most close to the alter. The unstable crystals I got from rocks affected by a rift don't seem to work (the tooltip for holding crouch on the ritual altar mentions stabilizers don't count towards this number) and mana torches don't seem to work either. The ritual alter suggests 'Reagents: x4 Lesser Arcana' but these don't work when placed as part of the ritual. Here's a picture of my setup --- --- any suggestions are welcomed 😁

I just wanted to point out that the whole reason the Handbook system exists in VS is to get away from the nonsense of needing to keep a web browser open and look through a wiki for information that should be taught in-game. So, it's rather asinine to see a Handbook page for this mod that just says "go to this website" when the information could have quite easily been placed directly in the Handbook.

Snowfall94, Vies thanks for the reply lol. I guess I'm just not a magic person. Too much the skeptic. That's why I can't commit to a mod that seems to be more about the journey than the destination. I remember playing one of the bigger magic mods for (the other unnamed block game) and after all the crafting was done being disappointed that all it did in the end was simple stuff like mining speed and the like. But like I said in the first post. If the mod had the twist ending that it did absolutely nothing verifiable at all. Like the supernatural in the real world. I might find that funny enough to add it to my play threw just for comedy’s sake.

so we all signed in to the sever after recently adding this mod and we all lost a backpack with shit in it and seam to have all gotten Grimoire butcher I ? not sure why or what to do but lots of steal tools were lost and other things

is there a tutorial video somewhere for this mod? im not really sure what to do. I made a makeshift staff and now im not sure how to progress. I tried casting transmute on leaves which it says are transmutable and it does nothing but drain my mana.

I assume the method's changed since 1.5.0, given that the ritual on the page here doesn't work, but what's the new method for making light and dark nexuses?  I've made the circle, put down the mana torches, and cast transmutation on the nexus, but it doesn't change at all.

Currently trying to dig through the dll to figure out what the check is now, but getting an answer directly would save me a lot of time.

edit: okay the update fixed that.

@Snowfall94 The Vies works in mysterious ways... On a serious note, glad you tried it at least. There are not a lot of attacking spells yet, was pulled away from working on spells to make sure other basic systems worked well, but I have other attacking spells planned. Either way I hope you like it. 

@MadGnome Honestly, I am not too concerned with my mod working with other mods for the most part atm, especially an unofficial version that someone random made of another persons mod. I have a lot to do still in the mod before I start connecting dots like that. Glad you were able to patch it in for yourself though. A lot of people have asked about xskills working to make spells faster and what not. Just not sure how to handle those things.

That being said, I will probably add patches in for a few of the creature mods that I like for the elemental damage system in my mod. So far feverstone wilds and fantasy monsters will be the targets. More if people suggest it and it makes sense.

I just checked the mod out, and went to creative and read through the grimoire things to get an idea of the spells available and from what I saw it's mostly support spells, like "Hydrate crops" "Increase this ability (butcher speed, mining speed, so on) for so long" "Protect against cold" and so on 

I did see a few damaging spells, but not as many damaging spells as much as support based skills

Only tagging you again, because that response to us was just as vague, so I just checked it  myself (so I guess your response worked Vies)
Mendall

@Mendall and @Snowfall94 If the essay descriptions above has you on the fence, you both are always free to try the mod for yourselves. There are plenty of admin tools to create grimoires directly and to unlock magic right away. The game itself is already an open ended game, we make the whys and the end goals ourselves. This mod just tries to give an alternative path with a "magical" theme.

I still remember ARS Magica 2 and Thaumcraft pretty much saying "this is a magic mod" and a short paragraph with how to unlock magic. Even the ingame guides were vague with lore-fluffed wordplay.

@Dannabis the summon light spell has a *WIP tag at the end of the name. Any spell, item, or block with the *WIP tag at the end means it is a work in progress thing that isn't working 100%. I think that spell needs better checks on where to place the actual ball of light without overwritting other blocks players may want. That spell is best used where no grass or anything in the way of solid blocks atm. Converting from an entitypos decimal point to a blockpos whole number can be kind of janky.

@PepsiRed The new 1.5.0 update works with 1.19 so you should be good to go.

@Mushrum my pleasure :D

I'm confused too Mendall

I don't understand what this adds besides a transmutation spell that seems it doesn't do that much and rituals, and a few blocks that do things. Like are there spells available or are they WIP? 

Like I just wanna know if there's damaging spells like fireballs, iceballs, etcetera

or even support spells, like a healing aoe to heal your team mates up, buff their strengths, like what the magic do so far

IS READY NOW-NOW, YES-YES

is ready now-now, yes?

PepsiRed it hasnt been updated to 1.19.x yet boss

The mage class is not appearing when I go to make a character, I haven't messed around with the config as i dont have much experience with it in minecraft so im not sure if i just have to enable something.

magic magic magic magic when update

RRRAAA MAGIC

Is the summon light spell broken?  Every time I cast it I lose the mana for it and get the message "Failed to cast spell. Insuficant mana" and it doesnt make any light..  It seems to work some of the time.. must I only cast it on certain surfaces?

I'm confused after reading all the info above, I understand the what and the how, but not the why. What is the end goal?  What can we do with magic?

What are some sample spells? Can I turn a person to a frog? Or throw a fireball? Can I curse something? Water breathing? How does magic alter the world, myself, or others?

Or is it like the supernatural in the real world and never does anything verifiable. That would be hilarious.

awesome, thanks for taking the time to respond

I am starting the 1.19.X migration today. Not sure when it will be done yet. Hopefully it is quick.

will this be getting ported to 1.19.x?

Excited to play this on 1.19

@yerghaiz20 Yeah I fixed that crash and will be changing up the negative effects for failed rituals in the next update. There will be a chance to drain the caster's stability, drain area health of entities, drain hunger, and/or explode. The new ritual system is pretty cool now. Pretty much right where I wanted it. Need to test it all tonight if I have time. I did remove the lightning strike for now. may make it a negative effect too?

@Corvix The mod isn't updated to 1.19 yet. Now that we just got the 1.19.2 update, I may look at it this weekend. That or actually play a game and have fun. :)

@Corvix The mod hasn't been updated for 1.19 yet.  That is likely the cause of your issues there.

currently having issues getting it to run on 1.19.1
this is the current string related to the mod where is see it has an issue:

23.1.2024 14:08:01 [Error] [rustboundmagic] Exception thrown when attempting to retrieve all types of the assembly rustboundmagic, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null. Will ignore asssembly. Loader exceptions:
23.1.2024 14:08:01 [Error] [rustboundmagic] Exception: Unable to load one or more of the requested types.
Method 'OnTransformed' in type 'rustboundmagic.src.common.blockentity.station.BlockEntityStationSanctumRM' from assembly 'rustboundmagic, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' does not have an implementation.
at System.Reflection.RuntimeModule.GetTypes(RuntimeModule module)
at System.Reflection.Assembly.GetTypes()
at Vintagestory.Common.ModContainer.GetModSystems(Assembly assembly) in VintagestoryLib\Common\API\ModContainer.cs:line 521
23.1.2024 14:08:01 [Error] [rustboundmagic] Exception: Method 'OnTransformed' in type 'rustboundmagic.src.common.blockentity.station.BlockEntityStationSanctumRM' from assembly 'rustboundmagic, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' does not have an implementation.
No stack trace
23.1.2024 14:08:01 [Error] [rustboundmagic] An exception was thrown when trying to load assembly:
23.1.2024 14:08:01 [Error] [rustboundmagic] Exception: C:\Users\mdean\AppData\Roaming\VintagestoryData\Cache\unpack\rustboundmagic_1.2.1.zip_633d84b4ad60\rustboundmagic.dll declared as code mod, but there are no .dll files that contain at least one ModSystem or has a ModInfo attribute
at Vintagestory.Common.ModContainer.LoadAssembly(ModCompilationContext compilationContext, ModAssemblyLoader loader) in VintagestoryLib\Common\API\ModContainer.cs:line 456

@Vies So I figured out the cause of the crash with the Ritual of Rusty Gear Destruction.

I generally don't use the stabilizers (unstable magic is much more fun :P ), and I wasn't adding them to the layout when performing the Ritual.  

Having the stabilizers in place makes everything work as intended.

Part 2

The Sanctum: This needs the most love of all. You have some good points here, and I will be tackling this after the next ritual work. I am not sure what these changes will look like. I don't like the idea of more spell slots this way, I want to see how the consumable spell scrolls feel. This block is basically "your personal knowledge library". With durability loss on death, you actually need to pay attention to this. I think it will cost mana to bind to a sanctum in the rework. No idea after that. May actually turn this into a multiblock structure. You have to build your sanctum. Give it meaning and a better presence in the world than a single block.

The Utility blocks: I like these, and I have ideas for a few more. A forge and the mana to mechanical power battery converter are the 2 next ones coming.

The spells are loaded topics.

- Growth, hydrate crops, fertilize, and befriend animals are all becoming rituals in the next update. That is why I want to do this last redesign, make it easy to add more rituals.

- I considered making lifetap an innate spell like transmutation, just given at tier 2, but idk how op that will be. Expecially if you can just self heal. Thinking I will add a hunger cost for it as well so you can't just spam and heal instantly? no idea. I do generally like the idea of having an innate spell for each level. Tier 3 may be resist elements to go along with the elemental themed stuff.

Not to give everything away, you can currently heal yourself with "Healing orb", if you are cleaver and have the right spell setup.

Buff Spells: there are going to be 2 "types" of buffs. You either cast them on yourself like you do now, or use the upcoming circle prism to convert the cast to an AoE, hitting a set number of players within a certain distance from you. You will also be able to imprint buffs on scrolls and sell them if you want.

Aura versions are a no go. Talk about a resource hog. Doing rituals are not a huge resource hog because I do a check only 1 time. This would have to do a check, for every player, a lot of times. I don't think the game could happily handle that, unless someone can come up with something cleaver, I just don't see how.

I had the idea for a dig kind of spell but scrapped it. Seemed tacked on, and either too OP or just not worth the time.

Offensive Spells: There is just the 1 main one that can change into 7 different spells with a focus. I just need to make more.

Overall, I need more time to just code all of these ideas in... lol

@yerghaiz20 This is some epic feedback! I appreciate the time that went into typing this all out!

As a side note, I could not replicate that crash you saw... Works well on my sp and multiplayer worlds.

I am going to hit on some of the main sections fast here:

Part 1

The Rustmage Class: I think I like where they sit with the recent update. The added spell haste was the last push that this class needed. I did consider a dynamic trait system, but it is going to be in the elemental attunement system coming in the tier 3 stuff I make. There are too many mods out there that do things to classes and I don't want to hijack the watched attribute shared for traits, or have someone elses mod mess my stuff up.

The Rustmage Equipment: You feedback is 100% right. I just rebalanced all armor to be actual armor. Honestly I did the original armor really fast and never looked back. The heal received debuff is less and the flat damage / protection are higher across the board. All armor saw a buff with lower tier armor increasing the most.

The bracelets along with other potential clothing will be more buff/ability oriented. Example is the "Requiem of Alteration", increase applied buff duration by %. This whole system is further down the road. Will probably be more of a tier 3 or 4 thing.

The Nexus: I think with the planned nexus batteries that can hold 50k of each essence, this will help a lot. Would allow an oculus access to all essence types.

The Oculus: I pruned out all infusion and purification synthesis recipes. These were needed before the retuning of the drop rates. Now they are not work it and it adds a lot of clutter.

The Spell Forge: This will have an upgraded block pair when I add the spell enhancement system for tier 3. You will be able to deconstruct old grimoires to get resources to enhance other grimoires. still working out what that looks like.

The Ritual Altar: This is the main focus for balance atm. The new changes will pretty much bring it to a point that I am happy with. Having a 9x9 area will simplify things, and the talismans will be used for not only rituals, but possibly could be used for the upcoming single use spell scrolls, the aoe spell circles, and the warpgates. I like the idea of having reagents for some spell stuff. It should be noted that if I add talismans, I will be reducing the mana torch cost a lot as well, if not removing them from most major rituals. This means just a focus on magic runes more with a few "main block sacrifices". I would like to get rid of throwing items in the world, so I may resort to using whole blocks to you "place" things in the world, in your ritual. I think using more inventory slots feels like a cop out. I don't like that you put the center block in to do rituals as it is. Still needs to be worked out for sure.

(Part 3, Spells and Rituals)

Before I actually start this section, I'd like to take a brief moment to explain the methodology I used to reach my conclusions.  For any given Spell or Ritual, the following questions were asked:

1) What type of spell-effect is this?  It is a utility, a buff, an offensive spell?
2) What does the spell/ritual actually do?
3) Should this effect be a spell, a ritual, or both?
4) Based on its type (Spell/Ritual/Both), how should it function?
4a) If it is a Both-type, how should the Spell function be different from the Ritual function?

With that in mind, let's begin.

Utility Spells  

Growth

This has been a staple spell for my character.  We are playing with 'real-world' crop times and year lengths, and the Growth spell is largely responsible for us not starving the first year, as well as being able to procure various resources more easily like Flax Fibers.  

Growth is an effect that has potential as both a Spell and a Ritual.  As a spell, it is incredibly handy for accelerating the growth of a single plot worth of crops, notably useful when one is out exploring and finds wild crops that are just a stage or two away from being harvestable.  As a ritual, it would be incredibly useful for accelerating the growth of planted fields.  

So, as a spell, Growth I-IV could work as currently implemented, increasing the growth stage/reducing the number of days til harvestable (in the case of berry bushes and saplings) by X, where X is the Tier of the Spell.  (Side Note: Growth II+ are not working correctly on crops.  It will only accelerate them one grow phase, and will not finish a crop when it only has one grow phase left to maturity).

As a ritual, Growth I-IV could increase the growth stage of all the crops inside the ritual area by 1, with the size of the ritual area being determined by the Altar, Ritual Materials, etc...

Hydrate Crops/Fertilize

In my opinion, there is no real reason to have a single-target Spell version of these.  They would work best as rituals, following the same general guidelines as above for Growth, in that better versions cover more area with a flat rate of improvement. 

Befriend Animal

Works as a Spell or a Ritual.  Spell version does, and should, 1+ generations per cast, Ritual ought to do 1 generation to each animal in the Ritual Area.  

Spell currently does not work on chickens.

Summon Light

As a Spell, it works out well enough to have it as a temporary light that eventually disperses.  As a ritual, I'm thinking the light should be permanent, and perhaps higher tiers of the Ritual could increase the Light Level the resulting light provides.

Summon Corpse