Mods / Better Than Heresy

Category: #Crafting #Tweak
Author: EreticKB
Side: Both
Created: Jul 16th 2021 at 1:23 PM
Last modified: Jun 26th at 9:10 PM
Downloads: 5739
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Latest file for v1.18.0: 1-click install

For ones who like "In Dappled Groves" and other Vinter Nacht's mods i "create" adapted version:

Despite separate my own items and recipes into another folder i can't be sure which original code wasn't tweaked, so all features in single list:

1. Added mold for spear, double and quad knife (2 and 4 knives in one mold, last demands x2 metal)

2. Straw, thatch block. Not fully substitute for dry grass, but mostly. Drops from most grain crops. Straw skep is decoration only, put into craft slot to get normal skep. (Surprisingly straw works with aurochs food recipe from Medieval Expansion).

3. Leather preparing overhaul. Hide produce tanned hide and must be sliced into leather. Also can be sliced prepared and scraped version. Use shears for better result.

4. Add cooked in firepit egg (surely from Lazy Warlock, no needs any changes since branching). 

5. Ash (chop some wood into flinders and "bake" them), Lye (fixed in v1.2.3) and Potash making. Potash is great fertelizer, lye can replace limewater.

7. Flint saw. Crude and fragile with limited use but still saw. Slightly imbalanced because let skip reed basket storage and not essential since introducing rough doors. But i like it. Seems many have trouble with crafting it. So i'll say: You cannot CRAFT flint saw, you must KNAP it. It no needs any handle.

8.Grinding charcoal. Charcoal powder has many uses. My favorite is briquette from straw(only straw, so you need some supplies from your fields), peat and charcoal powder. It's best for bronze and copper smelting and fueling forge.

9. Composting. Mix 4 straw, 4 rot with any soil and give it some time. Fully cured compost can be used as fertilizer or for creating composted soil, terra preta and compound fertilizer. Don't mistake it with vanila compost

10. Smithing: you can forge spear heads and two knives at once.

11. "Washing" muddy gravel for limestone.

12. Fully growth "grain" plants no more drops seeds, only products. You can craft seeds from soy beans, grains, pumpkins and bell peppers.

13. Skep drops when you harvest honey too.

14. If i remember correctly, you need (until any other mods override it) knife or scythe to get straw from grain crops.


BTH is a CONTENT mod. What it means? First, it have ZERO of scripting and CANNOT broke other mods scripts. Second: it cannot affect directly any recipe except hardcoded in it (and i make or patch no recipes outside of vanilla recipe list or mod's own items). Third, it works fine despite any version differences until version directly affects crafting mechanics or vanilla items used in mod (i'll try fix all found troubles although, just PM me or make something other that notify me) so mod counts "Up to date" until some broken things will found dispite any verision numbers.

P.s. I still support mod, just not develop it further right now.

Version For Game version Downloads Release date Changelog Download 1-click mod install*
v1.2.8 595 Jun 26th at 9:10 PM Show Install now
v1.2.7 244 May 26th at 4:44 PM Show Install now
v1.2.6 92 May 24th at 8:10 PM Show Install now
v1.2.5 150 May 18th at 7:11 PM Show Install now
v1.2.4 518 Sep 2nd 2022 at 9:54 AM Show Install now
v1.2.3 634 Apr 5th 2022 at 10:49 PM Show Install now
v1.2.2 170 Apr 5th 2022 at 9:37 PM Show Install now
v1.2.1 789 Sep 9th 2021 at 11:01 AM Show Install now
v1.2.0 431 Aug 22nd 2021 at 11:03 PM Show Install now
v1.1.2 433 Jul 30th 2021 at 4:14 PM Show Install now
v1.1.1 294 Jul 30th 2021 at 11:53 AM Show Install now
v1.1.0 334 Jul 27th 2021 at 6:30 PM Show Install now
v1.0.2 393 Jul 18th 2021 at 8:24 PM Show Install now
v1.0.1 341 Jul 16th 2021 at 4:14 PM Show Install now
v1.0.0 321 Jul 16th 2021 at 1:25 PM Show Install now

26 Comments (oldest first | newest first)

💬 Elwood, Oct 27th at 8:37 PM

This mod replaces the vanilla reciple for blasting powder which uses black coal.  You are now required to grind charcoal for blackpowder. I was expecting it to provide an alternative shortcut recipe and keep the original as well. 

Also as mentioned the charcoal is not compatible with any other mod that uses charcoal in the quern. For example ancient tools mod also has ground charcoal.  When I have both mods installed I am unable to make blasting powder because I cannot obtain this mod's version of ground charcoal.

I would suggest to make this more compatible with other mods you should introduce a new material for the quern. for example. Two pieces of charcoal crafted in grid produce "crumbled charcoal" which makes ground charcoal in the quern.

Other than that this mod is pretty useful for some shortcuts.  I like mods that introduce alternative methods.  Vintage story has always had challenges when it comes to requiring a specific resource.  

💬 EreticKBAuthor, Sep 13th at 5:59 PM

I check it on 1.8.10 now. All works fine. Check for any mods, that can alter grinding recipes, pls.

💬 RikeiR, Sep 9th at 2:12 PM

at 1.18.10

I can't make charcoal powder because the charcoal doesn't grind on the mill.

Please fix it.

💬 macoto_hino, Jun 25th at 1:55 AM

In addition to the Japanese version of BTH VinterNachted, I also created this Japanese file, so please use it.😄



💬 EreticKBAuthor, May 24th at 7:41 PM

Strange, but ok. I think ways to fix it.

💬 Thranos, May 21st at 6:54 PM

This mod is causing an issue when used with (and other mods) as BTH has some kind of shapeless saw + plank = stick recipe in it that overrides any recipe that is a saw and planks.

💬 GamingToast, Apr 26th at 1:11 PM

Some of the Stone knapping recipes stopped working as of 1.18.

And also i can't craft the spears anymore. The spearheads still appear but the crafting recipe for the iron, meteoric iron and steel spear have dissappeared.

💬 Pervy_Sage, Jan 14th at 7:17 AM

Trying to throw the custom spears not only crashes your world but corrrupts your save file. At least that what happened to me. Luckily I was in a test world.

Edit: It was caused by conflict with the Visually Glowing Arrows and Spears mod.

💬 EreticKBAuthor, Dec 6th 2022 at 6:33 PM

2Ziru. Yes, at least it works fine in my world. It's content mod.

💬 Ziru, Nov 28th 2022 at 2:53 PM

is this working with v1.7.9?

💬 EreticKBAuthor, Sep 20th 2022 at 5:31 PM

Try to use knife or scythe.

💬 headtread, Sep 17th 2022 at 12:56 AM

Grain crops aren't dropping straw on a server I'm on. BTH was added midway; is this a known issue, and is there a fix? Other tweaks are all working, including the grain-to-seed recipe.

💬 EreticKBAuthor, Sep 1st 2022 at 9:43 PM

No, i try to fix it soon. Thx.

💬 DanaCraluminum, Aug 24th 2022 at 3:52 PM

Is a straw basket ground storable like any other vanilla bag?

💬 EreticKBAuthor, Aug 10th 2022 at 10:41 AM

M.b. too late, this was solved weeks ago, it was unknown troubles on Thranos side and was fixed by fully reinstalling all mods. 

💬 Thranos, Jun 29th 2022 at 5:17 AM

The whittling recipes (specifically with the saw) are causing a lot of recipe issues with other mods. If this ever gets picked back up, a config to disable various things would be nice.

💬 Thranos, Jun 21st 2022 at 8:17 PM

Kazeoni I know how it's supposed to work, but no recipes actually appear. Unsure if it's a mod conflict on my end- running latest VS version.   

💬 Kazeoni, Jun 21st 2022 at 9:52 AM

Thranos, the flint saw is a nerfed saw. Most recipes where you need the vanilla metal saw accept it. Tho very low durability and produces less planks from logs.

💬 Thranos, Jun 17th 2022 at 8:42 AM

Flint saw appears nonfunctional- no recipes for it. It can be made but is basically a paperweight. 

💬 Theisgood, Apr 10th 2022 at 5:49 PM

Would you be able to add a config for the flint saw. True or false type deal. I feel cheaty using it. lol

💬 GamingToast, Mar 31st 2022 at 1:36 PM

Leatherworking doesn't seem to work anymore since 1.16, i get the tanned hide out of the barrel but i can't make anything out of it. The H-Menu also doesn't show any recipes for leather? Will there be an update for this mod?

💬 Mendall, Oct 3rd 2021 at 5:48 PM

I’m sure your description is amazing for the people that know what Warlocks's tweaks is.
but for the rest of us a short list of the added featured would be appreciated.

💬 Victory, Aug 21st 2021 at 1:20 PM

When the wood finishes burning it leaves ash and when you try to interact with it the game crashes. Is there a fix for this?

💬 Dragon_Attack, Aug 19th 2021 at 7:07 PM

when trying to get the ashes out of the oven, the game crushes

💬 Hoof_Lover, Aug 8th 2021 at 2:20 PM

how do you craft wooden path now?

💬 Pinkytwigosh, Jul 18th 2021 at 11:01 PM

I appreciate you updating my favorite mod to 1.15 🤩

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