Mods / Better Than Heresy
Author: EreticKB
Side: Both
Created: Jul 16th 2021 at 1:23 PM
Last modified: Jun 26th 2023 at 9:10 PM
Downloads: 7515
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Latest file for v1.18.0:
BetterThanHeresy_1.2.8.zip
1-click install
For ones who like "In Dappled Groves" and other Vinter Nacht's mods i "create" adapted version: https://mods.vintagestory.at/bthvn
Despite separate my own items and recipes into another folder i can't be sure which original code wasn't tweaked, so all features in single list:
1. Added mold for spear, double and quad knife (2 and 4 knives in one mold, last demands x2 metal)
2. Straw, thatch block. Not fully substitute for dry grass, but mostly. Drops from most grain crops. Straw skep is decoration only, put into craft slot to get normal skep. (Surprisingly straw works with aurochs food recipe from Medieval Expansion).
3. Leather preparing overhaul. Hide produce tanned hide and must be sliced into leather. Also can be sliced prepared and scraped version. Use shears for better result.
4. Add cooked in firepit egg (surely from Lazy Warlock, no needs any changes since branching).
5. Ash (chop some wood into flinders and "bake" them), Lye (fixed in v1.2.3) and Potash making. Potash is great fertelizer, lye can replace limewater.
7. Flint saw. Crude and fragile with limited use but still saw. Slightly imbalanced because let skip reed basket storage and not essential since introducing rough doors. But i like it. Seems many have trouble with crafting it. So i'll say: You cannot CRAFT flint saw, you must KNAP it. It no needs any handle.
8.Grinding charcoal. Charcoal powder has many uses. My favorite is briquette from straw(only straw, so you need some supplies from your fields), peat and charcoal powder. It's best for bronze and copper smelting and fueling forge.
9. Composting. Mix 4 straw, 4 rot with any soil and give it some time. Fully cured compost can be used as fertilizer or for creating composted soil, terra preta and compound fertilizer. Don't mistake it with vanila compost
10. Smithing: you can forge spear heads and two knives at once.
11. "Washing" muddy gravel for limestone.
12. Fully growth "grain" plants no more drops seeds, only products. You can craft seeds from soy beans, grains, pumpkins and bell peppers.
13. Skep drops when you harvest honey too.
14. If i remember correctly, you need (until any other mods override it) knife or scythe to get straw from grain crops.
README!:
BTH is a CONTENT mod. What it means? First, it have ZERO of scripting and CANNOT broke other mods scripts. Second: it cannot affect directly any recipe except hardcoded in it (and i make or patch no recipes outside of vanilla recipe list or mod's own items). Third, it works fine despite any version differences until version directly affects crafting mechanics or vanilla items used in mod (i'll try fix all found troubles although, just PM me or make something other that notify me) so mod counts "Up to date" until some broken things will found dispite any verision numbers.
P.s. I still support mod, just not develop it further right now.
Version | For Game version | Downloads | Release date | Changelog | Download | 1-click mod install* |
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v1.2.8 | 1016 | Jun 26th 2023 at 9:10 PM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.2.8.zip | Install now | |
v1.2.7 | 336 | May 26th 2023 at 4:44 PM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.2.7.zip | Install now | |
v1.2.6 | 186 | May 24th 2023 at 8:10 PM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.2.6.zip | Install now | |
v1.2.5 | 241 | May 18th 2023 at 7:11 PM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.2.5.zip | Install now | |
v1.2.4 | 617 | Sep 2nd 2022 at 9:54 AM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.2.4.zip | Install now | |
v1.2.3 | 726 | Apr 5th 2022 at 10:49 PM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.2.3.zip | Install now | |
v1.2.2 | 272 | Apr 5th 2022 at 9:37 PM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.2.2.zip | Install now | |
v1.2.1 | 887 | Sep 9th 2021 at 11:01 AM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.2.1.zip | Install now | |
v1.2.0 | 524 | Aug 22nd 2021 at 11:03 PM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.2.0.zip | Install now | |
v1.1.2 | 525 | Jul 30th 2021 at 4:14 PM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.1.2.zip | Install now | |
v1.1.1 | 399 | Jul 30th 2021 at 11:53 AM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.1.1.zip | Install now | |
v1.1.0 | 437 | Jul 27th 2021 at 6:30 PM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.1.0.zip | Install now | |
v1.0.2 | 492 | Jul 18th 2021 at 8:24 PM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.0.2.zip | Install now | |
v1.0.1 | 435 | Jul 16th 2021 at 4:14 PM | Show | BetterThanHeresy_1.0.1.zip | Install now | |
v1.0.0 | 422 | Jul 16th 2021 at 1:25 PM | Show | BetterThanHeresy1.0.0.zip | Install now |
nice mod, although I did not tried to use charcoal functionality, and to my huge disappointment iron (probably meteoric and steel also) spear is broken, when you try to launch it, all the game crashes and reports an error about iron spear animation not found. if you could eventually fix this or disable until there is a fix for that.
since pitch glue is a vanilla thing
the powdered charcoal from your mod is conflicting with the crafting
This mod replaces the vanilla reciple for blasting powder which uses black coal. You are now required to grind charcoal for blackpowder. I was expecting it to provide an alternative shortcut recipe and keep the original as well.
Also as mentioned the charcoal is not compatible with any other mod that uses charcoal in the quern. For example ancient tools mod also has ground charcoal. When I have both mods installed I am unable to make blasting powder because I cannot obtain this mod's version of ground charcoal.
I would suggest to make this more compatible with other mods you should introduce a new material for the quern. for example. Two pieces of charcoal crafted in grid produce "crumbled charcoal" which makes ground charcoal in the quern.
Other than that this mod is pretty useful for some shortcuts. I like mods that introduce alternative methods. Vintage story has always had challenges when it comes to requiring a specific resource.
I check it on 1.8.10 now. All works fine. Check for any mods, that can alter grinding recipes, pls.
at 1.18.10
I can't make charcoal powder because the charcoal doesn't grind on the mill.
Please fix it.
In addition to the Japanese version of BTH VinterNachted, I also created this Japanese file, so please use it.😄
BetterThanHeresy_1.2.7_bth_ja.json
BetterThanHeresy_1.2.7_lazytweaks_ja.json
Strange, but ok. I think ways to fix it.
This mod is causing an issue when used with https://mods.vintagestory.at/moreroadsandpaths (and other mods) as BTH has some kind of shapeless saw + plank = stick recipe in it that overrides any recipe that is a saw and planks.
Some of the Stone knapping recipes stopped working as of 1.18.
And also i can't craft the spears anymore. The spearheads still appear but the crafting recipe for the iron, meteoric iron and steel spear have dissappeared.
Trying to throw the custom spears not only crashes your world but corrrupts your save file. At least that what happened to me. Luckily I was in a test world.
Edit: It was caused by conflict with the Visually Glowing Arrows and Spears mod.
2Ziru. Yes, at least it works fine in my world. It's content mod.
is this working with v1.7.9?
Try to use knife or scythe.
Grain crops aren't dropping straw on a server I'm on. BTH was added midway; is this a known issue, and is there a fix? Other tweaks are all working, including the grain-to-seed recipe.
No, i try to fix it soon. Thx.
Is a straw basket ground storable like any other vanilla bag?
M.b. too late, this was solved weeks ago, it was unknown troubles on Thranos side and was fixed by fully reinstalling all mods.
The whittling recipes (specifically with the saw) are causing a lot of recipe issues with other mods. If this ever gets picked back up, a config to disable various things would be nice.
Kazeoni I know how it's supposed to work, but no recipes actually appear. Unsure if it's a mod conflict on my end- running latest VS version.
Thranos, the flint saw is a nerfed saw. Most recipes where you need the vanilla metal saw accept it. Tho very low durability and produces less planks from logs.
Flint saw appears nonfunctional- no recipes for it. It can be made but is basically a paperweight.
Would you be able to add a config for the flint saw. True or false type deal. I feel cheaty using it. lol
Leatherworking doesn't seem to work anymore since 1.16, i get the tanned hide out of the barrel but i can't make anything out of it. The H-Menu also doesn't show any recipes for leather? Will there be an update for this mod?
I’m sure your description is amazing for the people that know what Warlocks's tweaks is.
but for the rest of us a short list of the added featured would be appreciated.
When the wood finishes burning it leaves ash and when you try to interact with it the game crashes. Is there a fix for this?
when trying to get the ashes out of the oven, the game crushes
how do you craft wooden path now?
I appreciate you updating my favorite mod to 1.15 🤩