Expanded Molds: Content

Just to update everyone, life got very busy over the last year & I have no time to even play games let alone maintain a mod. Let this be the notice to whoever would like that they can make a fork to keep updated with the game. In the future if they would be willing if I come back I would just ask they allow me to return this to the primary mod version. Thanks everyone for your enjoyment of my silly little mod!

if you're still here... i hope,, i hope ,, you might update ;w; ?

my 4 plate molds overfilled and wouldnt let me take the plates when cooled?

Edit: Looks like an incompatibility with Xskills Smelter skill maybe? it was showing the fill amount to be 770 units, filling to 792~ and not letting me fill more

And one more thing. The following lines appear in the language files (not only this one, but others as well; this one is just an example).

"game:blockcraftdesc-jug-*-raw": "Jugs can be used for storing, transporting, & combining liquids",

Does the mod change jugs? There is no mention of this in the description.

Question about the correctness of strings in language files.

"block-toolmold-blue-fired-chainring": "Dark brown ceramic chain ring mold",
"block-toolmold-fire-fired-chainring": "Fireclay ceramic chain ring mold",
"block-toolmold-black-fired-chainring": "Black ceramic chain ring mold",
"block-toolmold-brown-fired-chainring": "Brown ceramic chain ring mold",
"block-toolmold-cream-fired-chainring": "Cream ceramic chain ring mold",

Why "blue"="Dark brown", but "cream"="cream"?

• Removal of crafting grid & use of in-world crafting for all recipes (no idea how to do this, suggestions appreciated)

Chiseling. Or imitating it, at least. For example, hammer in off-hand and nails in main hand, as if hammering the nails into the interaction points. Take a look at the anvil too-- so you might make handles or somesuch, place them on the mold, then hold nails and hammer and "hammer" the nails in. Soldering might use a modified crucible pour-- aim at the interaction point with soldering in the main hand and the soldering material in the offhand and just hold interact to solder. Your models though, so you'd have to decide on the process of putting them together. I'm just offering ideas of the actual mechanic. 

RowdyArt can do! so i've been playing a 1.21.6 singleplayer with about a little over 60 mods at the time; had a few scares, crashes, but ultimately the world is playable & no mod had broke itself to the point of complete removal being neccesary until a few days ago. everything loaded normal that day, but for whatever reason the nails-and-strips molds i had out became ?-mark blocks. i had fired 8-ingot & 4-plate molds in a chest that had their thumbnail preview become invisible yet taking up space, so i had to go into creative to remove all those blocks from the mod & unload it altogether. i didn't touch the mod in the folder or altered anything after i installed it, which granted it was included in my modpack after the world was created. i've been a long time user of this mod & can't recall ever having problems with this mod until now, and what's worse is that i really can't recall anything problematic occuring beforehand that could've cause everything to break :'( 

cinnico This is the first ive heard of such happening. We have been using the mod on our own MP heavily modded server and have encountered no issues. Can you provide a little more feedback on what happened?

Vuldovyol today the mod broke for me. didn't crash the game, and granted i'm playing w/ various other mods, but the mold blocks became ?-mark blocks. had to go into creative to remove them & unload the mod altogether :')

Does this mod still work in 1.21.6?

Agreed! All of the roadmap additions should ideally be seperate mods. Most people who download this just want the molds

I like what this mod currently has but I'm not the biggest fan of the roadmap. Could you consider making the in-world crafting and reworked & expanded crucibles standalone mods?

Mynxae

The thread is a bit old, so I don't know if you figured it out but I ran into this as well and found the solution:

If you have SmithingPlus installed, delete the config in the ModConfig folder and let the mod regenerate it.

Dr_Jekylle I don't have the XSkills mod installed unfortunately, so that can't be it. 

Mynxae Isn't it caused by an XSkills perk named Smelter? That one changes how much material you need to fill molds.

Unsure if something broke/changed in the 1.21.1 update, but now my two and four plate molds are showing weird/new numbers for how many units of metal to be placed in them. Like a four plate mold is 770 units of metal, and the two plate mold is 385 units of metal? 

Hi, thank you for all your work. Great mod. I have a suggestion - the chain ring mold should fill with 50 units instead of 100 to make it at least roughly comparable with the anvil recipe. 

does the 1.1.2 or 1.2.0 version work for vintage story 1.20.12?

Downside:
- you cant remove hot elements from molds. That is you cant smith imediatelly ingots?
- you cant pick up mold to drop it into water in order to quench.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hFvzzxVp8E-C3-gRXnHW_5IOXHUoJ8sD/view?usp=drive_link

Hello, I made a PT-BR translation for your Mod <3

KitaenSilva A more historical option would be to make the crafting tree go like this: Metal ingot -> new tool wirepulling jig -> metal wire -> coiling jig -> coiled wire -> cut coils into rings -> flatten and pierce rings on anvil -> weave and rivet with pliers -> finished maille

Suggestion for in-world crafting of chainmaille, as someone who has hand-made chainmaille and enjoys real-world traditional blacksmithing:

Use the anvil.

Place cast ring on the anvil, hold shears in mainhand, have hammer in offhand, "use" on placed ring. Drops "plied ring", or a ring with a gap in it to slip additional rings into. Craft a number of rings in this fashion - low tier metals are fine to do this cold, but higher tier metals require the rings to be heated before they can be plied.

Continue to use the anvil - place plied ring onto the anvil. Place plied ring onto the plied ring. Repeat until adequate number of plied rings are on the work item. Heat work item if higher tier and apply powdered borax as a flux to weld the rings closed again. Low tier metals do not require flux and can simply be hammered closed without welds. Hammer once per applied ring to close the gaps in the rings. Completed chainmaille segment acquired. Quench if heated.

You could do something broadly similar with the advanced molds - place the mold core, and "use" the intended components on the mold core to affix them to it and then complete the advanced mold by using the hammer in off-hand and soldering iron in mainhand upon the advanced mold with all necessary components applied.

Boom, no more crafting grid!

I would suggest - if there is a config and it isn't too much hassle - to make this a toggleable option, as not everyone is thrilled about the fact that Vintage Story - both vanilla and modded - is heavily working toward the elimination of the crafting grid. I lean in favor of the in-world crafting, however, so I hope these suggestions seem feasible!

Wow, a pretty nice description of the mod, screenshots, crafting process...
No list of the actual molds this adds. I could guess, but are the pictures complete? Are there molds not pictured?

спасбо все работает

LiothTheBrave, from what I've tested it doesn't have to be full durability, it just takes so much durability (300 durability) that you won't have enough durability left to craft a second one. (meaning as long as it has 300 or more durability it works just fine)

hello, i have translated your mod in russian Could you please add it to your mod, thank you.

Ребята подскажите для больших форм не могу скрафтить железную форму

спасибо хороший мод 

it feels like the 8 ingot mold breaks way too fast. only 9 pours before its gone? i wish i could pop in a new mold core to repair it. i'm using wear adn ter as well.

Big issue with the mod currently, you can't use a 'used' soldering iron. It has to be full durability or it won't let you craft the usable mold.

Odur27

New release with fix for this issue out now! Thanks!

1.2.2025 02:11:34 [Server Error] At position 512099, 156, 511991 for block expandedmolds:nailsandstripsmold-raw-nailsandstrips-north a BlockEntityGeneric threw an error when ticked:
1.2.2025 02:11:34 [Server Error] Exception: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Vintagestory.GameContent.BEBehaviorTemperatureSensitive.onTick(Single dt) in VSSurvivalMod\BlockEntityBehavior\BEBehaviorTemperatureSensitive.cs:line 54
at Vintagestory.Common.GameTickListener.OnTriggered(Int64 ellapsedMilliseconds) in VintagestoryLib\Common\Model\GameTickListener.cs:line 27

Might this be an issue with this mod? Happens when creating Nails and Strips mold with red clay, then caused a client crash on multiplayer. if it helps I think I was doing it while on forest floor, if you need more info I can try to gather it.

Oh thanks for the compatibility patch with Wear & Tear, it's honestly a great match. The two mods together make the game so much more pleasant to play.
Cheers,

Hello, would it be possible to support the Glassmaking mod?
molds for glass if possible.
there isn't any mantained mod that does it, and your molds are cool!

Thanks.

Is there a itemized list of all the molds this adds? It sounds great and i just wanna make sure its not duplicating items i have from other molds mods (primarily nails and strips and arrowheads).

Cascade3218

Otterbutter

Newest release should fix this issue now.

I'm getting the same bug. I'm only getting a single Chain Ring from each mold per pour.

I enjoy casting rings but for some reason, you get 1 ring from 100 units of let's say copper, but for 200 units you get the actual whole chain mail piece, but for the rigs, it costs roughly 1600 units of metal, so extremly cost ineffective, is this bugged for me or somethiing??? RowdyArt

Firstly: I greatly appreciate this mod for its intentional omission of blades. Every mold mod I see includes the sharp blades and turns me off from it, since really, I just want a mod to store my ingot molds easier. I prefer in-game interactions over the gui, since I play with a controller mostly (I just use gyro for mouse-required/precision aiming interactions). Tbh, I think half the molds shouldn't be there for this reason.

Suggestions for non-gui crafting:

Chainmail:

While I don't really like the idea of molding the rings because I'm a stickler for the realism aspects of the game (although, it could be argued that forming the rings out a straight up ingot is comparably unrealistic), you could make it a realistic multi-step process for after the molding.
You could heat up the rings, then have to put the on the anvil and using a chisel, splice a hole/slit in each ring, or require the use of shears (maybe even specialized metal-cutting shears, or the tier above for either option to skip heating). You could lock this behind the next tier up for some metals if desired, based on hardness.
Then, you apply borax as flux since you have to weld them, and then you either solder them together by applying a solder bar (this only would work for copper and bronze; not that you can mold iron anyways), or simply hammer them together. The soldering could also be done by heating the soldering iron instead of the chains themselves, if you cut with a +1 tier set of shears/chisel.

The borax is the essential part, thought, since you'd need flux or solder or forge welding (like is required to weld the two iron anvil halves together).

You could potentially expand this to armor sets, too if you're ambitious; you might want to require some kind of "welding table" that has a 3x3 grid or something (or 2x2 blocks, which interact as a 3x3 space), since an anvil isn't much room to work on a project that size, but you could essentially just have the player lay down the chain with shift click and just basically perform the same set of actions but for each joint.

Advanced Molds:

You could take a page out of the ship-building book and see if you could make your own version (although, you may need a few models for construction stages).
I'd imagine you have the player place the plate on the ground, then shift-click it with some relevant tool/item (soldering iron, raw or fired mold, etc), and it engages a construction entity. Then you can have the user click with items in their hotbar to turn it into a "locked" specialized chiseled block, or clay mold, or whatever voxel adding process, where you have one hand holding a heated soldering iron and the other solder bars, and then you simply fill solder wherever a nail/rivet or plate/strip joints would be located.

This should require silver solder, as that has like double the melting point of lead solder. This is only bc IRL, the mold would of course get very hot as heat is trasferred from the molten metal to the ceramic mold. Ceramic is insulating, but given the large thermal mass of

Balancing:

I also think that any other item (except ingots, and maybe chutes b/c fragile) should have to be put onto the anvil to get a good whack, since molded items would have a fair amount of defects, or may not be very when precisie or hardened compared to forging. This would be an interaction akin to the initial iron bloom process, where you just whack slag off. Also, you could have the player heat up the nails and just put them on the anvil to knick one voxel per nail so that it has a sharp-looking point.

This could also be semi-automated with a helve hammer which could just one-shot each item (except for nails and chutes).

Love the mod, though; I think it's got great potential. I'll be using it in my world next play, for sure.

Thanks for the reply, it appears it has been worked out to be expanded foods causing the issue. I did try some those things and thats the current thing it apperars... I was just reporting it as i was searching as sometimes a modder looks and goes OH yup this will fix it.  rather over report than not.

Oh is it possible to add a config maybe in the future to turn on and off the molds?.. some of the molds for me id prefer not have.

Thanks again

bringitonwimps

It seems that error is directed at something to do with the handbook, expanded molds is not listed at the top or as far as I could see. Have you tried removing some of those other mods to trace which one is actually causing the error?

I got this error when clicking on a clay chute mold from expanded molds, not sure where the error is credited

https://pastebin.com/LTxqA5h0

SniperGecko

This is the exact direction I'd love to go with the mod honestly. The concept of having to "finish" the rough items that come out of the molds is almost an exact conversation ive had previously. My ability with modding is quite limited however, so anything like the channels and foundry stuff would likely require a pretty substantial collaboration with a competent modder. 

I really appreciate the concepts and interest in my mod! Hopefully in the near future I will have an update that includes the ability to make the color variations currently seen in jugs and shingles in pretty much all the clay items. Stay tuned!

A handful of ideas that may or may not fit into the concept for this mod, noting your "Different cooking ovens and tiers"
One potential would be a crucible the size of a Storage Vessel (made with fire clay only) with some sort of iron+ axle/mount to pour it. Channels for metal would also be nice to create from fire clay- channeling Tinker's Construct for that one -especially if the large crucible pours into those channels.
Potential name for these items: Foundry Crucible, Foundry Channel
Oh, and if you do add this; the Foundry Crucible should require Graphite (just like pulverize and use on the crucible) before anything hotter than copper can be melted.
Lastly; if you really wanna hit home, you should be able to toss in any item made entirely from metal into the Foundry Crucible; where the amount it melts is relative to durability rounded down to nearest 25%.

EDIT: Additional idea;

You said you want to stay away from blades; I think that limits the reach of your mod. Instead potentially; make it so all cast items (bladed) are "Dull" (incomplete) until used on a Whetstone. (If you add a whetstone, I think it should have a liquid capacity like a barrel to add water to)



Anyway, if you like none of this I won't be offended and don't feel pressured to add it, I just like throwing ideas at anything I see. :)

propaneko  

Eventually I will be looking to add compatibility with lots of mods as clay items are pretty widespread through the recipes of the game and with this mod in the works to be changing lots of them it will be absolutely neccessary. So short answer, yes, as soon as I can get around to figuring out how to make that work.

Hi great mod I really like the idea of added progression to more advanced molds, is there a chance that we could have xskill compatibility? For the smelter perk to be exact.