Is is possible to switch the descend for flying machines with get out? Because I always try to hit ctrl to go down, but that just ejects me, and G is kind of awkward to reach for.

@Malfiros I'd honestly much rather stick to my bootleg version where the dismount/down controls are swapped.

Also Vies, for some reason the machine dialog appears to be set up to handle letting people who aren't the owner use the machine when the machine isn't locked, but there is another check that immediately closes the dialog on the pre-render if the user isn't the owner. Someone else reported that weird behavior previously and there was no reply. I'm assuming it's a bug since that behavior (ie: non-owner can't use the machine) would make sense only if the machine is locked?

I wanted to report a bug and an exploit. So, when a flyer hits water, it creates a splashing sound effect that persists until you restart the game. That's the bug. The exploit I found, and I don't know if this is intentional, but when using the flyer, you can turn the machine off and it will start to fall... no matter the fall distance, neither you nor the machine take any fall damage upon impact. Vies

I've learned that the sit-down key is basically a toggle for downward motion. You just have to hit it once and your flyer will start to decend. Any rotation will cancel the effect, but forward/backward motion will not, you will continue to decend 26chairs

Fantastic mod and it saved us from having to create a new world 100 hours in when we realized that the default world settings create a world where getting to the equator by foot just isn't all that feasible.

All I'd say is... Configurable movement keys would be great. Flying machines using the sit-down key to fly down isn't viable; it doesn't combine with other keys (ie: you can't move forward and go down at the same time). I had to edit the DLL to swap dismount/fly down to make it usable. Other than that, just fantastic!

Is there any way to change the keybind configuration? I don't like "G" for downward movement and would like to swap it for shift. I feel that it's too easy to bump shift on accident while flying, which results in bad news bears...

Vies Add a button so we can buy you a 'coffee'. This end-game mod is absolutely incredible. Well done!

First of all: the mod is really great, thank you!

We have a small issue with permissions. Even though the machines are unlocked, we cannot access other machines. So the menu doesn't open. Is this a bug, or have we missed something?

Last realease when I changed texture : System.Collections.Generic.KeyNotFoundException: The key metal_cupronickel was not found

I've searched through many json files for this mod and can't find a way to increase storage for the haulers. I would love a way to increase the storage.

Thanks and fantastic mod!

are you the mod maker of the minecraft vershion of this? if so cool!

I have contacted you in DM on discord regarding a critical error bug and the Concat with the Hashset that is found in Viescraft & in Rustbound magic. Just letting you know on here so it will not go unnoticed. It contains my google drive zip file of the logs which is for your eyes only ofc since it was obtained via using the Harmony Logs mod.

Vies

ru.json
https://pastebin.com/U28xKdri

Just so everyone knows, we found out on the livestream last night that if this happens, set the ui scale really low to find it. It pushed the windows really far off of the screen. Thanks!

I'm having a slight issue where the Hauler version of the machine wont let me put storage items on it. Unsure if its a technical issue, or user error.

Hey! Sorry for the radio silence! If you all have been checking out the stream, you know that I have been working on a magic mod for VS called "Rustbound Magic"! I will be moving it out of the "draft" state in the next couple of days in all of its 'alpha' glory! 

Once at mod is out and stable, I will be doing another pass through my other mods to get them up to date and working with .NET7. 

A mech suit, or robot that can attack enemies and maybe other actions.  A suitcase sized mobile transforming camp (from suitcase to mecanical shelter and back again.)

Any way to "decouple" machine controls from vanilla movement keys so they can be rebound separately? I'd like to swap 'Move down' and 'Dismount' so I don't accidentally fall out of my airship when trying to lower altitude :D (muscle memory from other games/creative mode means sneak=down to me).

So far my solution has been to just swap the controls for the duration of the flight but I figured I might as well ask.

This mod rocks!

Reporting a bug for multiplayer on a dedicated server: When the owner client adds a Temporal Assemby to the base machine, it remains as a base machine for non-owner clients. In the case of the 2-person carriers, Non-owner clients can sit in the base machine, but as the owner drives the vehicle and owner remain in place. From the owner-client's perspective, the passenger is actively with them as they drive the machine. It's a pretty severe desynch.

So far we've been able to circumvent it by using the admin stick to remove the current owner. This forces the machine to update to all clients with the current Assembly inserted. In the case of carriers, once an owner is set again, non-owners are able to successfully ride and transit as passengers. Non-owner clients can also relog to have the base machine update with the currently inserted Assembly and functionality.

Let me know if I can provide additional information or submit this somewhere more appropriate! The server log didn't generate any errors during our testing.

Baronjutter

When you are sneak clicking with the arc spanner, hold it down until it is finished.

I get stuck assembling the chasis.  I throw it onto the ground and get a little frame of a vehicle.  I apply the 3 kits.  I sneak-click it with my arc hammer and and it says something like "assembling vehicle, please wait..." and then nothing.  I go do something else, come back 10 min later, nothing.  I try again, same message.  constructing machine, please wait.  Please wait.  Nothing happens.  I try to apply one of the "sea | Hauling" chips to it, nothing, no assembly slot, no interface.  What's going wrong?

Vies Is there a simpe way to limit which metal tiers are valid for the construction of machine parts? Say for example we wanted players to be at the iron or steel level on a server before being able to build these luxurious masterpieces?

Buggi I actually started my GUIs by looking at the one for the Firepit. It has examples on how to pass attributes from an object into a GUI, along with doing a loading bar type mask to show progress for something. I would recommend using something like paintdotnet and taking a screenshot of a gui in game, and editing it in paint to make a rough draft/final draft to save time. I do it in my livestreams. The ratio is pixel perfect so you can space things where you want in the image, then highlight distances on the image to get your numbers for the Elementbounds in the GUI. 

Telemachus Glad I could help! The new update has more visual ques to help with knowing a machine is charging.

Trug That is something I am working on next. I am redesigning how machine sounds are registered and used.

Not sure if it's a problem or working as intended, but no matter which mode my vehicles are in (ground, air, or sea) I get the ocean splashing/boat noises whenever the vehicle is moving.

Vies Perfectly detailed answer. Much appreciated!

Do you have any tips, hints, or advise on how to make AWESOME GUI's like the one shown above? Working on a big mod and man, that GUI is amazing.

This is a multipart question.

First is that the machine charger needs enough mechanical power to charge machines. You can tell it has enough if the connecter pins are sticking out of the block or from the HUD when looking at the block.

Second is that the machine needs to be off and almost in direct contact with the machine charger (technically the distance can be 20% of a single block length away or closer). You will see it is charging from the display screen.

I have an update going out later today to make it easier to see that it is charging from the display screen. The display charge bar will have yellow highlights and purple bars and all of the buttons will turn yellow as well.

Also fixing a bug that would make machines prioritize using machine pellets over a charger.

How close does the machine need to be to the machine charger block in order for it charge? I had it parked about 4ish blocks away and it didn't seem like it was charging. I got it to start charging when I placed it directly flush with the machine block.

Got it, thanks Aerin and Vies for the explanations!

Just to be clear with storage boxes, this refers to any block from any mod that uses BlockContainer or BlockGenericTypedContainer class files. Think chests, barrels, crates, etc. Even still parts can be used. The next update will have a hover text listing items and I will be expanding it to Troughs, Fruitpresses, and Querns.

Yeah I maybe should of been more clear. Maybe I will add a hoverover tooltip explaining what goes there. I only had so many icons available and the handbasket reminded me of our bag slots. 

@Trug You put single-tile chests in those slots, every chest gives a row of storage space. The basket icon did throw me for a loop at first but yeah it's just chests

Love the mod, but cannot figure out how the hauler variant storage works. I see the 4 slots, and the handbook and this page reference a "storage box", but I don't see any item called a storage box available for crafting. The icon on the 4 slots look just like backpack slots, but don't accept backpacks. What's supposed to go in there?

Thanks for all the work on this!

Aaand it's out! v2.1.1 should fix carrier and a bunch of other things.

Machines can only consume machine pellets to recharge their battery while they are off. If a machine is powered on, it will use the stored battery charge if available. If there is no charge, it will stop working. The machine has to be shut off to start recharging the battery using machine pellets or the machine charger block. I got rid of the old system of consuming fuel.

As for the other part, there is a problem with carrier machines. I have a fix in the next big update. That should be out in a few minutes.

For some reason, when I try to feed machine pellets as fuel, the machine just consumed one and refused to consume any more (and shut itself off mid-flight).

Also, other players cant drive an unlocked machine but this may be correlated with the first problem above.

Thank you for the feedback Evadx! I fixed the arc spanner issue, I had commented some stuff out to test, never put it back. As for the carrier, Since it is a 2 seater, I take the hitbox of the machine and divide it into 2 parts. If you right click on the front part (driver seat) you sit in that seat, if you right click the back part, you will sit in the back seat. I am working on the next update now and will probably have this fix maybe tonight or tomorrow.

Not sure if this is a bug or an intended feature, but all arc spanner parts, and thus arc spanners, are not smithable, except for copper.

ALSO, this is probably me being dumb, but I cannot figure out how to get into the drivers seat on a carrier flying machine (haven't tried it with other types) without removing the assembly, getting in the driver's seat and then putting the assembly back in.

Awesome to see this updated, thanks! Never got the chance to try them out in my last world. and hey, there's oceans now! 

Looking for feedback, how do people generally feel about the "locking and ownership" system of machines? Should it exist?

I will be redesigning this mod for 1.18.0. This will be done via twitch so if anyone wants to see it, stop on by!  

Anyone if there is a way to pick up a machine?

Hey Vies, I wanted to ask if you'd be open to showing me how you got the machines to fly? I've tried to experiment with code before but it normally doesn't go well. I'm trying to apply flying to flying creatures I have.

I can't thank you enough for this mod. My wife and I used your mod for minecraft and we were always sad to play a version of minecraft where we couldn't install it. Nothing brings us more joy than exploring the world from an airship. We just constructed one and are so excited to tool around our server. <3

Can confirm the vanilla wrench does not work with Viescraft enabled

It seems that because of the wrench in the mod, the vanilla wrench cannot be used. The Vanilla wrench only repairs the Vehicles and does not rotate things like it's supposed to do.

In 1.17.1, the vanilla wrench survival handbook entry have "viescraftmachines:tooltip-item-wrench-1" and "viescraftmachines:tooltip-item-wrench-2" in their description.

Having a strange bug during multiplayer, other players can access my machine information when they press R, also sometimes when i press the buttom it bugs the screen of other players showing the system, and sometimes visually dupping their inventorys.

Should not be hard to test since its a multiplayer thing, just need more than one person.
If needed i can provide the full mod list cause it can be an uncompatibility with another mod.

Frame mold is saying that it is not a fireable item for me... I am using the 1.16 version since I am in 1.16

Hi is there a way to increase the movement speed via configs?

Hi Vies,  I'm the server owner of Moondrop and we keep running into a crash we think is caused by the flying machines.

Running on 64 bit Windows with 32 GB RAM
Game Version: v1.16.4 (Stable)
Loaded Mods: weaponpacka@1.2.4, ancienttools@1.3.6, animalcages@2.0.6, tonwexp@1.0.9, axleinblocks@1.0.12, backpackpackplus@1.0.3, betterdrifters@2.1.3, buildingplus@1.1.2, cavecontent@1.0.1, chiseltools@1.4.4, collabclasses@3.0.4, expandedfoods@1.5.3-pre.6, fancydoors@1.1.0, weaponpackg@1.0.0, MoreResin@1.0.0, orecrystals@1.3.6, pieontheshelf@1.0.0, potontheshelf@1.0.0, primitivesurvival@2.8.0, qptech@1.7.6, survivalcats@1.2.2-rc.2, tradeomat@1.6.0, viescraftmachines@1.17.0, volumetricshadingcontinued@0.6.6, game@1.16.4, alchemy@1.6.3, carrycapacity@0.6.5, fancyplanters@1.0.4, fixbadrecipes@1.0.2, hudclock@2.7.0, lichen@1.6.1, medievalexpansion@3.7.1, moreanimals@1.2.2, petai@1.4.2, playercorpse@1.3.1, stonequarry@1.6.5, tpnet@1.5.1, usefulstuff@2.3.2, vanvar@1.1.2, creative@1.16.4, survival@1.16.4, woodbarrels@1.0.2, woodchests@1.0.2, workbenchexpansion@1.4.1, xlib@0.6.8, xrowboat@0.0.3, campaigncartographer@2.1.2, bricklayers@0.9.0, cats@1.4.0, feverstonehorses@1.2.6, wildcraft@1.2.1, wolftaming@1.4.0, xskillspatched@0.6.9-dev.7
4/6/2022 3:21:48 PM: Critical error occurred
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at viescraftmachines.src.common.entity.EntityMachine.SeatsToMotion(Single dt)
at viescraftmachines.src.common.entity.EntityMountable.updateBoatAngleAndMotion(Single dt)
at viescraftmachines.src.common.entity.EntityMountable.OnRenderFrame(Single dt, EnumRenderStage stage)
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt)
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt)
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.MainRenderLoop(Single dt)
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.MainGameLoop(Single deltaTime)
at _4Bi1AGVssrIO0El8b8ygdS9FIfm._o5h005s1ovnxSPPqKWgI4tZUoCh(Single )
at _lAuHsYOBOAjBMdATFXwLUtH7N00._JvY4M2412YZu1OS3Ull8wgZBu1j(Single )
at _lAuHsYOBOAjBMdATFXwLUtH7N00._KmBeEx15nyyLrVqNDW6geSArpNr(Single )
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(Object sender, FrameEventArgs e)
at System.EventHandler`1.Invoke(Object sender, TEventArgs e)
at OpenTK.GameWindow.RaiseRenderFrame(Double elapsed, Double& timestamp) in C:\Users\Nexrem\Desktop\transfer\opentk\src\OpenTK\GameWindow.cs:line 476
at OpenTK.GameWindow.DispatchRenderFrame() in C:\Users\Nexrem\Desktop\transfer\opentk\src\OpenTK\GameWindow.cs:line 452
at OpenTK.GameWindow.Run(Double updates_per_second, Double frames_per_second) in C:\Users\Nexrem\Desktop\transfer\opentk\src\OpenTK\GameWindow.cs:line 375
at _TRhArnJABwZoV9Vt7Ld2l65Xzgg._mhlr8s7wtMvxaJGpVy2Ag90jUBK(_3HJA5NvAIx31LXjscc3HGjXaR6q , String[] )
at _q0zAVOrWbMX04rMA9G3HIFVuGjA._mhlr8s7wtMvxaJGpVy2Ag90jUBK(ThreadStart )
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If you'd like more info feel free to message me on the vintage story forum or join Moondrop's discord https://discord.gg/wJdJDysg I'm more than happy to work with you to get you any info that may help.  We are very much enjoying your mod and do not want to remove it.  It isn't crashing constantly, just occasionally when a flying machine comes through an area.  It sometimes crashes everyone in the area.  

Thanks!

Zinc

I love the work and effort put into this mod, there's some good stuff on display here! I'm a huge fan of the concepts the Hauler brings, especially.

My only hangup is certain parts of the machine models sort of clash with the low-/clockwork-/temporal-tech aesthetic vanilla has, like using jet engine-esque turbines where simpler propellers would work. A simple model adjustment on the zeppelin would make it perfect with how I'd expect it to look with the tech levels we have, but I'm not sure on any of the other machines.

Other than personal aesthetic preferences, I'm really loving what I'm seeing!

Sorry I'm late, Translated ViesCraftMachines-VS1.16.4-v1.17.0.😄

The link for the Name Changer that appears in Vol. II of the Survival Handbook does not appear to be functioning properly.

ViesCraftMachines-VS1.16.4-v1.17.0 - ja.json

Great mod!  We had a lot of fun with our first zeppelin, though saddened to see its storage reduced to 4 in the latest update.  Any chance to make storage amount configurable?

Also, is there any way to disassemble a vehicle after it's been built?

McBain

I am glad you are enjoying the mod. Currently sea machines are not going to be too helpful because of the world gen, but if you use something like jakecool's Oceans world gen mod or luck out with some nice "lake/rivers", the sea machine is going to be useful. I probably won't make a system for moving the sea machines, not sure where to even start with that! The idea is that as the game matures, and we start to get more things like the rivers and oceans, I will already have the optimal machine to traverse it.

This is just awesome.  Thanks so much for developing this.  Is there a way to deconstruct a vehicle once it's together?  Since most lakes are not all that big I was thinking the sea machine would have a lot more use if it could be broken down and moved between bodies of water.  Or maybe a system to pick it up with the flying machine to move it around.

To be honest, I don't use Github much because it's a pain to learn how to use it.
It's easiest to send data to each other there if you can free up a message.

Jerrie

Wow I really like that idea! Hadn't considered doing something like that. I can look into it after I get what I want in this mod. Testing the ground machines, just about ready to push out another update.

macoto_hino

Thanks! I should make something on github for translations. This next update I realized my tooltip and message keys were kind of borked. I had to redo a lot of the localization keys to have them make sense. and to get rid of redundant keys.

I've created a Japanese language file. Please use it if you like.😁

ViesCraftMachines-VS1.16.3-v1.5.2 - ja.json

Hello!
Are you planning to make any railway transport? It would be so cool! :)
It can also help to move underground in mines and etc.
I think it would be easyer to make then any other kind of transport. 

If you reach out to me via discord (Vies#1234) I can point you in the direction of the example mod Tyron made for basic mounting.

Can you share some code about mounts please?

With the 1.5.0 update I just put out, you can now open your inventory from any machine menu. :)

I see what you mean, I just double checked it and I was able to press 'e' and open my personal inventory / move things around while the machine gui is open from the drivers seat, but not the passenger's seat or from outside. I had an extra check that locked key input in so that people couldn't walk away and keep the inventory open, like a Minecraft kind of gui. I could change it back it people prefer it the other way.

And yeah, that is why there was a hud kind of effect. It was just not syncing to the actual dialog background. I have yet to make a hud for the mod yet. lol but that is fixed with 1.0.11. 

clarification on 3) when your machine's gui is open, the player is unable to open their inventory. so you can't put in fuel from driver's seat, nor store things from the passenger's seat without already having your bags open prior to opening the machine's gui.

in regards to 2 & 4: so thats why there was a hud like effect, yes? the green dot, the active fuel, and info display were just askewed, if I'm reading your reply correctly?

understood on the storage separation question.as for making it solid, I won't understand the code for a while, while it's not impossible for me to do, reading/writing code with even my minor dyslexia is difficult

Thanks for testing things out! I have fixes for I think most things in the next update but just to be sure I will try to answer your points here:

1) This was fixed, I meant to get it in with the first release, but got obsessed with fixing multiplayer movement. It will be in the next update. I did check this multiple times and it just runs an animation that, at the end, checks broken state so it didn't hurt anything. Well, besides the player's time wasted trying to fix a non-broken machine. :)

2 and 4) These were both part of the same problem. The root of it was if the machine's dialog box was switched to moveable, My refreshing elements didn't sync right and would disappear sometimes. I have that fixed now and will be in the next update as well.

3 and 5) I wasn't sure about the wording of this one. Inventory (storage slots) can only be access from the back seat passenger, or shift + right clicking the machine from outside as long as no player was riding in that spot. If you meant accessing things like chests from inside a machine, that will not work yet. For some reason, when mounted on something, player yaw is locked to the yaw of the thing you are mounted in. I would eventually like to fix this but my attempts so far to override it have not worked. You can look around, but using tools or throwing spears stay locked on to the machine's yaw.

As for the suggestions:

- Making machines solid is something I want to do. it may be weird the way the colision box is (had to make it wide to accomedate the model rotation), but i would like to do it eventually. look at the collision box with the command '.debug wireframe entity' and you will see what I mean. There would be some player floating issues to deal with.

- Are you talking about making storage a separate window, like when you press "c" to look at your character info? I had considered this, but the idea of having the driver not be able to access inventory came from this scenario; if I am driving in a car, I can't exactly just reach back to get a bag of chips from the pile of grocery bags, but someone already sitting back there that isn't focused on the road could. I will keep thinking about it though, if enough people want it, I could do it.

- Patching shouldn't be an option if the machine is not broken. That fix is goin in the next update. The idea of continuing to use just the wrench to try to get more free durability is an interesting idea. maybe some rng and ques on when to stop before you break or blow up the machine? I added that to my list of ideas to look into.

- I had considered making a HUD that displayed fuel info for the driver, but just didn't get around to figuring that out yet. Had so much to do with the total rewrite. I wanted to eventually make like the red baron pilot helm / goggles / red scarf and have it so that you get the hud when it is on, but that is only an idea in my list of ideas to implement. 

So a few issues.

First off, when I found these I made sure to go into a test world. Single player, a few tweaks to the world spawn, no other mods active (none of these seem to be a mod interaction issue). I did however spawn in the items needed to complete the machine. (completed machine frame, panel, cloth, and metal kits). I also am not a clockmaker, but I don't know if that makes any difference.

1) patching while the machine is not broken seems to attempt to do the job anyway, and sometimes gives an additional 'can't fix what's not broken' message. I don't know if this is intended, but I thought I'd bring it up. and if you're wondering, it thankfully does not make the machine explode by fixing nothing.

2) the power indicator on the gui does not light up, howerever the hud does display a green dot in the middle while the gui is open

3) Unable to open inventory while the control panel is open, its completely locked out, you have to have it open prior to opening the gui or you cannot move items (both driver and passenger seats)

4) the info panel is not displaying durability, nor energy, but the tool tip is.

5) I don't know if this is intentional or even fixable, but I had to make an attempt to defend myself, and while the player's view can turn and aim (was using a recurve bow), it only fires forward due to the player being locked in the seat that way. thought I'd add it in regardless. tools seems to do the same, but they are usable from the driver's seat, and passenger's seat seems uneffected.

Other than this, she flies wonderfully.

Some questions/suggestions?:

Is it possible to make the machine solid so the player dismounts above the machine so we can stand on it in mid flight?

Are you able, without too much trouble, to make the storage a container instead of creating a separate gui for it? this would allow both passenger and driver to access it.

If patching is an option while the machine is not broken, can you implament the durabitity repair (for when you don't have a service kit and just need to limp home), and explosion if tinkered with too much?

I would suggest adding in the current active fuel and fuel stack available to the tooltip so you don't have to open the gui to see it, or make it so the hud displays when you look down at the machine from the driver's seat. possibly some goggles that allows this?

Thanks for the effort, hope to see great things, mate.

sweeet!