PeterSanderson Someone else updated the mod. https://mods.vintagestory.at/maztec

Second that request for Outlaws

Great to see this mod got updated! Any chance Outlaws could get updated to 1.20 too? it's from the same author

Would you be open to adding a config option to not affect ice? I would prefer to not have ice destroyed when I try to walk across it.

Marlim

Honestly? No idea. I run small servers for a handful of friends, at most. Seems to be fine for us, though. 

Do you know if this mod works well on servers?

ProfCupcake

Tried this mod for the first time and it seems to work alright with 1.20.7! I tried downloading the original mod before I found this and it crashes immediately, was kinda bummed since it's the first mod I've seen that I'm really interested in, so I appreciate the update!

Russian translation of the mod

I was wondering about why this mod does a few things which can't be configured or disabled

Walking over grass tufts on peat or clay immediately breaks the grass tuft completely, making a trampling noise. This behavior seems to ignore config settings like `onlyTrampleFoliageOnTrailCreation`. Settings like `peatLoseGrassTouchCount` appear to be completely ignored, i.e. setting it to 999 to prevent it happening in reasonable gameplay. As is, walking over peat or clay gets very noisy; something I don't recall happening pre 1.20

Walking over grass on dirt blocks turns it immediately to 'eaten'. Again, config has no affect, and this behavior apparently can't be disabled. It would be nice to keep grass bendy and resilient to mild trampling as in nature.

I have a suggestion, and it's up to OP to decide if this is a brain wave or a brain fart... what if block borders developed a slope over time?? Like a little u shape that eventually becomes climbable? I've decided to try and draw a diagram but that involves learning how to use Tayasui Sketches with a janky stylus made out of a pen and a q tip so bear with me, but I'll post some images when they're legible!

I have created a translation of the mod into Russian. Can you add it?

Would you be able to add an option to the config to disable snow destruction? I've noticed that with ~40 players this option causes a lot of CPU usage from state updates, this only happens in winter when there's snow. This would be a really good feature, thanks! :)

is iceblock breakage destroying waterlogged blocks/roots a problem with this mod or with the base game?

Since 1.20.3, grass no longer gets short while walking over it. Is this something anyone else noticed?

(Edit: It seems the lack of dissapearing grass is caused by Art of Growing mod)

samaxis

That's actually very helpful, thanks. 

I can't promise it'll come any time soon, but I am looking into this error. It's a weird one for sure; in theory, it should be fixing itself automatically, I'm not sure why it's failing to do that. 

Hey ProfCupcake! Just wondering - I'm exploring a part of the map a few ingame months after last having been there, with spring/early summer changing to winter. My server keeps getting absolutely b o g g e d down with this error recurring repeatedly upon loading in a new chunk:

6.2.2025 01:01:56 [Server Warning] BETransient @510674, 138, 508583 for Block tallgrass-eaten-free, but there is tallgrass-eaten-snow at this position? Will delete BE and attempt to recreate it

I saw your exchange with Kara, and I'd like to add that this is absolutely causing serious performance issues. Sadly, not benign :(

I am not entirely sure what is going on behind the scenes regarding BETransient and recreating the BE. I'm guessing that this error involves the server encountering a grass type that it did not expect, and then switches it to the appropriate variant of grass. I could be entirely wrong, but I think this is a mismatch between how the game handles grass that gets cut/eaten, and how your mod here handles trampling grass into it's "eaten" state.

The server freezes until all of these errors are corrected in the chunk it is attempting to load. Until then, no new chunks get loaded, and the server ceases any other operations causing some massive desync issues with anything that occurs client-side in the meantime. Kara had remarked that this appears to happen still after removing your mod - but I'd like to add that this is only on re-loading chunks that had grass "trampled" into its eaten state by your mod. Once the problem gets corrected, the error no longer occurs.

I decided to test this a bit more closely by creating a new world just for this little scenario. I set a really small view distance, trampled some soil so that the grass became mangled, and then flew far enough away to unload those chunks. After jogging time forwards into winter, and returning to that first area, the error manifests itself. This was tested with only your mod enabled, and with an entirely clean install of the game. Removing your mod before returning to those first chunks doesn't avoid the error, leading me to believe that this is something involving how your mod handles trampling grass in the first place.

I really hope that this isn't just a deeper problem with the game not being designed or capable of handling so many "eaten" grass blocks. In hindsight now, I'm realizing that I didn't test the same case with manually cutting grass and then repeating the whole unloading chunks/changing seasons process. I've already loaded all of my other mods back in, so I don't really want to go through all that again.

Meanwhile, I've just edited the config on my server to restrict trampling to extraordinarily large-sized critters (so that nothing gets trampled, effectively) just so that I could still use the trails that this mod creates.

Any ideas on your part? I really don't want to imagine life without tramply trails everywhere. This mod is honestly one of my favorite additions to Vintage Story.

(Edited with some more troubleshooting on my part to narrow down the circumstances causing this error)

UhhhChicken

Do you have places where there are carpets or other such around? That's pretty much the only change I can think would cause this since that version. 

Kalmorph

Honestly, I don't have any advice for this. I just did it with trial-and-error. For the settings I prefer, I found a value of 0.2 (for both) worked to prevent smaller creatures from trampling, though I still want to go back and fine-tune that a bit. 

Magmabot16 If it's a huge amount of extra memory that may be a concern, but with how a mod like this would have to work, increased memory the longer it's running is sorta inevitable. Every time an entity that can trample steps on a block, the mod has to save that data somewhere. If you have things set so all the wildlife/monsters/etc. can trample, that's a lot of blocks being stepped on pretty frequently.

You could probably do a comparison with a fresh world where only the player tramples, versus one where everything tramples? See if the memory usage increases faster one way or another.

Yeah, mod had been crashing my game after like a minute upon loading the world. Reverting back to mod version 1.1.1 fixed it.

Yes! Thank you so much for updating this mod!

Just a heads up this mod has a memory leak. Not sure what's causing it.

Hey man, thanks for updating the mod!
I have a question, I want to change minEntityHullSizeToTrampleX and minEntityHullSizeToTrampleY in a way that specific animals don't trample the soil. Specifically, I want Chickens, Hares and Racoons to not trample.
How can we know each animal EntityHullSize?

TRexTheHunter if you can would help me to understand.

I guess im not the only one! Also thinking that Entangled in Nature mod and this mod is making it worst for us. If you want a video capture, I guess I can make one to show. Thanks misterandydandy

This is a fantastic mod that adds so much Emerson to VS thanks for updating it for us ProfCupcake

I'll take a look in a bit. DecaByte

There maybe a confilict with this mod & Entangled In Nature mod.
The issue is that its causing is too much slow down while traveling through grass. The moder stated that it may be "you have a mod that is using the wrong blockmaterial".
At this point unsure which mod is actualy causing the issue, but I thought it might be something you might want to look into.

My Flowers still get broken when i walk over Low Fertility Soil, fix?
Edit:
I guess you just gutta disable "flowerTrampling": false, on default
Maybe thats wise todo cause Flower Garden for Bees wouldnt really work Otherwise i think

@mrozak

If I understand the syntax correctly, "Only" refers to "flowers will be trampled only if the block underneath is a trail block." 

Which means your options are [true/false] for the phrasing "It is [true/false] that the [grass/flowers/ferns] is removed ONLY when the dirt block becomes a trampled block." So, if it's FALSE, then tall grass will be trampled by passing over it, with no concern to the block underneath, whether it's grass or trampled dirt. But if it's TRUE, then ferns and flowers would only be removed when the block underneath BECOMES trampled. If the block underneath is not trampled, then the fern/flower is not removed.

Am I correct in this understanding? I think I am.

ProfCupcake removed the mod from server temp and the warning stopped =P.
Error still happening... so i guess not =/ sorry for bothering about that error >.<

Kara

I'm not sure that is related, but I'll investigate and see if I can reproduce it. Either way, it seems to be benign, at least. 

Not sure if this is your mod causing this, but my console is Filllled with these messages.

Hi I made updated Polish translation

https://pastebin.com/e9M89bmb

ProfCupcake oh shit lol.

Mrozak

They're not mutually exclusive. Each option separately affects either grass, flowers, or ferns. 

With the option set to false, you will trample whichever type of foliage it is every time you step on them. With the option set to true, you will only trample the foliage if the dirt block underneath has been trampled into a "trail" block. 

rjc523

No. See this part of the original description:-

Before running this mod on an existing game world, please, please, please, backup your gameworld and test the mod on a clean level so that you are sure you like what it does. This mod makes permanant changes to your gameworld that are not easy to revert.

I guess I'll have to copy that to this description too. 

I don't understand the new settings.
The word "Only" confuses me when having three settings that seem to be allowed to be set at the same time - which one is then the "only" one that will be applied?
If i set both "onlyTrampleFlowersOnTrailCreation" and "onlyTrampleFernsOnTrailCreation" to TRUE, which one of them wins?
Will it only trample flowers, or only ferns?

oh duh my bad should have actual read the full thing lol
Haven't messed with mod config files yet but I'll give it a shot thank you

when i removed mod, there just ? blocks now, any fix?

Thank you for the update! 💚

No longer will I need to punch ferns while making trails. Thank you <3

thanks! I'll check it out!

Ket

Hah, well timed, I just uploaded the fix for it. 

It's not ideal, though: there is a noticeable "flicker" when the block changes. Not sure I can do much about that, I'm afraid. 

ProfCupcake Cool, thanks! No worries if it can't be fixed

Marlim

It should be fine. None of the block IDs have been changed. 

If I use this in a new save, and the original mod is updated and I change mods, would there be a problem?

ProfCupcake

Ket

I can have a look, but no promises. 

I'll also see about getting separate config settings for the fern & flower trampling. 

... Dammit, I might end up having to write an actual description for this. 

PL translation
Thanks for update

ProfCupcake  I just wanted to take a secound & say thank you. Even though you stated that you wouldnt be doing any 'fixing/updating' you have been & it IS very much appreciated! Again, thank you so much! This community would not be the same without you!

Can you make it so rush matting/other carpets don't get removed from the dirt? I use rush matting as the bottom of tents, like how tents in real life usually need a mat under them to protect them from moisture and things. The last version of this mod did not have this problem, so maybe something changed in 1.20? Thanks.

ProfCupcake Thanks for looking into this.

Nubbs

I looked into the ferns & flowers not getting trampled. Turns out it is working, but only if the dirt block they are on is a trampled/trail dirt block.

It is effectively hard-coded such that the "onlyTrampleFoliageOnTrailCreation" config option is permanently turned on for those kinds of plants specifically. 

Kirona

I believe they will eventually revert back to their base dirt type (which will then regrow grass etc. as per vanilla). 

I never got a clear answer on the original mod, but for the path devolution mechanic does that mean that unused paths will completely revert and disappear, or just... not get more path-y?

Ardail

That is an option. Read the original description and/or the config file. 

Love the idea of this mod the only problem is that chickens and other live stock will ruin my nice pastures I make for them walking around :/
if this was limited to just players walking about that'd be amazing

It only happens when you place them on dirt, they break when the block below it changes. You shouldn't place your carpets on dirt anyway!!!!

With this mod installed, walking over Rush Matting displaces the matting. I didn't try it with carpets but I suspect it might do the same.

Hi,
I did not find your mod on the VS-discord.
May I provide a german translation here for version 1.1.0?
If you should be interested, I would appreciate, if you could include the german translation in one of your next updates :)

Content of de.json:

{
//BLOCKS

"block-soil-verylow-pretrail": "Unfruchtbarer Boden (zertrampelt)",
"block-trail-verylow-new": "Wildnispfad (unfruchtbarer Boden)",
"block-trail-verylow-established": "Etablierter Pfad (unfruchtbarer Boden)",
"block-trail-verylow-veryestablished": "Schotterstraße (unfruchtbarer Boden)",
"block-trail-verylow-old": "Autobahn (unfruchtbarer Boden)",

"block-soil-low-pretrail": "Boden mit geringer Fruchtbarkeit (zertrampelt)",
"block-trail-low-new": "Wildnispfad (Boden mit geringer Fruchtbarkeit)",
"block-trail-low-established": "Etablierter Pfad (Boden mit geringer Fruchtbarkeit)",
"block-trail-low-veryestablished": "Schotterstraße (Boden mit geringer Fruchtbarkeit)",
"block-trail-low-old": "Autobahn (Boden mit geringer Fruchtbarkeit)",

"block-soil-medium-pretrail": "Boden mit mittlerer Fruchtbarkeit (zertrampelt)",
"block-trail-medium-new": "Wildnispfad (Boden mit mittlerer Fruchtbarkeit)",
"block-trail-medium-established": "Etablierter Pfad (Boden mit mittlerer Fruchtbarkeit)",
"block-trail-medium-veryestablished": "Schotterstraße (Boden mit mittlerer Fruchtbarkeit)",
"block-trail-medium-old": "Autobahn (Boden mit mittlerer Fruchtbarkeit)",

"block-soil-compost-pretrail": "Boden mit hoher Fruchtbarkeit (zertrampelt)",
"block-trail-compost-new": "Wildnispfad (Boden mit hoher Fruchtbarkeit)",
"block-trail-compost-established": "Etablierter Pfad (Boden mit hoher Fruchtbarkeit)",
"block-trail-compost-veryestablished": "Schotterstraße (Boden mit hoher Fruchtbarkeit)",
"block-trail-compost-old": "Autobahn (Boden mit hoher Fruchtbarkeit)",

"block-soil-high-pretrail": "Terra preta (zertrampelt)",
"block-trail-high-new": "Wildnispfad (Terra preta)",
"block-trail-high-established": "Etablierter Pfad (Terra preta)",
"block-trail-high-veryestablished": "Schotterstraße (Terra preta)",
"block-trail-high-old": "Autobahn (Terra preta)",

"block-cairn-andesite-*": "Andesit-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-chalk-*": "Kreide-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-chert-*": "Hornstein-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-conglomerate-*": "Konglomerat-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-limestone-*": "Kalkstein-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-claystone-*": "Tonstein-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-granite-*": "Granit-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-sandstone-*": "Sandstein-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-shale-*": "Schiefer-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-basalt-*": "Basalt-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-peridotite-*": "Peridotit-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-phyllite-*": "Phyllit-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-slate-*": "Schiefer-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-bauxite-*": "Bauxit-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-kimberlite-*": "Kimberlit-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-suevite-*": "Suevit-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-whitemarble-*": "Weißmarmor-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-redmarble-*": "Rotmarmor-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-greenmarble-*": "Grünmarmor-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-obsidian-*": "Obsidian-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-scoria-*": "Schlacke-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-tuff-*": "Tuff-Steinhaufen",
"block-cairn-halite-*": "Halit-Steinhaufen"

//TOOLS
"trailmod:item-trowel-copper": "Kupfer-Gartenspaten",
"trailmod:item-trowel-tinbronze": "Zinnbronze-Gartenspaten",
"trailmod:item-trowel-bismuthbronze": "Wismutbronze-Gartenspaten",
"trailmod:item-trowel-blackbronze": "Schwarzbronze-Gartenspaten",
"trailmod:item-trowel-gold": "Gold-Gartenspaten",
"trailmod:item-trowel-silver": "Silber-Gartenspaten",
"trailmod:item-trowel-iron": "Eisen-Gartenspaten",
"trailmod:item-trowel-meteoriciron": "Meteoriten-Eisen-Gartenspaten",
"trailmod:item-trowel-steel": "Stahl-Gartenspaten",
"trailmod:item-trowelhead-copper": "Kupferspatenkopf",
"trailmod:item-trowelhead-tinbronze": "Zinnbronze-Spatenkopf",
"trailmod:item-trowelhead-bismuthbronze": "Wismutbronze-Spatenkopf",
"trailmod:item-trowelhead-blackbronze": "Schwarzbronze-Spatenkopf",
"trailmod:item-trowelhead-gold": "Gold-Spatenkopf",
"trailmod:item-trowelhead-silver": "Silber-Spatenkopf",
"trailmod:item-trowelhead-iron": "Eisenspatenkopf",
"trailmod:item-trowelhead-meteoriciron": "Meteoriten-Eisenspatenkopf",
"trailmod:item-trowelhead-steel": "Stahl-Spatenkopf",

"trailmod:itemdesc-trowel-*": "<font color=\"#99c9f9\"><i>Wird verwendet, um Blöcke als zertrampel-geschützte Blöcke zu markieren.</i></font>",
"trailmod:heldhelp-trampleprotectblock": "Zertrampelschutz hinzufügen",
"trailmod:heldhelp-removetrampleprotection": "Zertrampelschutz entfernen",

//HANDBOOK
"trailmod:gamemechanicinfo-trails-title": "Spielmechanik: Natürliche Pfade & Straßen",
"trailmod:gamemechanicinfo-trails-text": "<strong>Übersicht</strong><br>Pfade entstehen natürlich durch die Bewegung von Menschen und Tieren in der Umgebung. Diese organischen Routen verändern die Landschaft, indem sie Pfade, Wege und Straßen durch einst unberührte Wildnis schneiden. Je mehr Verkehr eine Route erfährt, desto schneller und etablierter wird der Pfad.",

"trailmod:trowel-handbook-help-title": "Anleitung",
"trailmod:trowel-handbook-help-text": "Der Gartenspaten ermöglicht es dir, Boden- und Pflanzenblöcke als zertrampel-geschützt zu markieren, was bedeutet, dass sie niemals zertrampelt werden und keine Pfade entwickeln, egal wie oft du darüber läufst. <hk>Rechtsklick</hk> auf einen Block mit dem Gartenspaten in der Hand, um den Block als zertrampel-geschützt zu markieren. <hk>Linksklick</hk>, um den Trittschutz zu entfernen.\n\nWenn du eine Pflanze oder Blume zertrampel-geschützt machst, wird auch der Bodenblock als zertrampel-geschützt zu markiert."

}

If you should have any comments, please let me know.

Kind regards, drakrochma

edwinfox

AFAIK, it should work fine in rc.8: I originally made this for rc.6

The server may warn you about it but it should still load fine. 

What an amazing concept! I'd love to try it out but we're on rc8 at our server until 1.20 becomes stable release. Is there a way to make it work with rc8 too? I tried changing version in the json but that alone doesn't seem to work. Thanks!

Lovely! Always wanted to try this mod.

Is there a way to make the trails develop more slowly? So instead of walking over an area 3 times to convert it to dirt, you'd have to walk over it 30 times? I'd like to make it occur so slowly I wouldn't notice it happening.

*EDIT*

Nevermind, figured it out! Thank you for the update!

Thanks for updating the mod for us to enjoy! I did notice that flowers and ferns are not being trampled even if set to true. If you have no plans to fix issues like this I can easily ignore it and work around it. Everything else seeems to be working just fine for me. Cheers

I was just about to start a new save without this last night but put it off till morning. Woke up to your updates, happy as can be, you're a legend Cupcake. Grifthegnome is also wonderful for having made it. Thank you so much!

I have missed this mod while playing 1.20 so very much! Thanks for updating it, even if it ends up being a temporary thing. Your effort is appreciated.

This day is getting better and better!