Minimal Mapping

Hi Apache, thanks for your work! The worldmap fog feature is so niche but precisely what I was looking for for better immersion!

I take you as a bit of a mapping/cartography enthusiast from how you have not one but two map mods.

So with that said, how would you feel about integrating with Craftable Cartography and/or its two forks (rebalance and classic i.e. non-magitech, my personal fave)?

I volunteer to contact the respective authors myself if it would make more sense for them to at least provide config and command support first. Or I could try to make a "3-in-1 Craftable Cartography CLI" myself if accommodating other people's mods is outside of your intended scope. I'm somewhat of a modding noob but I've had some years in professional .NET and have dabbled in Harmony before (for a different game), including safely transpiler patching other mods' harmony patches.

Could write a proper GitHub ticket too, if you prefer.

I also have some Developer tier worthy funds available if that's a prerequisite for significant feature requests.

I'm getting the same issue, fogradius command doesn't work.

The command /minimalmapping worldmap fogradius [1-32] does not seem to work, all it says in the chat is " subcommand worldmap, too many arguments"

what does this mod even do?
like, does it add a fog of war to the map, till your close to the land, and could reasonably 'see' it?
or does it just not add every generated chunk to the map right away, and only shows areas you've actually been?

I'm having trouble figuring out the commands to use this mod, I just want to limit the amount the World Map will reveal as you explore, but I can't figure out how to do Only That.

Apache i would of reported it on github, but i sadly do not have a github account, sorry about that D=.

I think that's good general advice anyway. I didn't realise that the ModsByServer folder wasn't automatically cleaned up when mods are removed by the server. That's concerning.

Warning to server owners: Removing this mod will disable the ability to open the map, until players remove this mod from their ModsByServer folder!!

you can use arrow keys to scroll, when map scrolling is disabled. 

Algernon, you'd need to do `/minimalmapping worldmap mode disable` to get vanilla operation for the world map as well.

I apologise. I realise now that this is very confusing, you need to "disable" the feature to enable the map.

Apache I did `/minimalmapping waypoints mode disable` then restarted the server, checked that waypoints mode was set to disabled and the world map still cannot be click and dragged/panned.
The blacklist is not working either: worldmap and minimap's modes are set to blacklist, a player is added and they can still use the worldmap and minimap even after a server restart
Also thanks for this mod, its exactly what our server needed

update: the panning fixed itself after either changing the mode to blacklist or after a second restart, but the blacklist is still not working

Noden, does `/minimalmapping waypoints disable` not work? You may need to restart the server, I can't remember what patches are in place on the server for it.

Is there a way to re-enable the ability to pan on the world map? It doesn't seem to be configurable.

My goal for my server is to disable minimap and coordinates, but allow world maps and markers.

Any way you could disable the CTRL+F3 keybind? People in servers with directions turned off and using compasses are using that keybind to find out which way they're looking which kinda defeats the purpose

Is there any mods that implement ingame map? Like an item.

Jonathonsky,

Try with these settings:

/minimialmapping minimap hotkey off
/minimialmapping minimap hud off
/minimialmapping minimap hover off
/minimialmapping minimap scroll off

When I start a game the minimap is disabled and CTRL+V still brings up coordinates. Is that intended or am I getting an interference with another mod? I tried it back when there was limited mini map but now everything map related is disabled and options dont seem to change anything.

Would it be possible to make it so that instead of when logging in and out it resets the map on death?  I have friends that say they can't handle playing the game without the map, but I want a more Wilderness Survival experience, and so having it happen on death would be very good.  Especially if you could make it only trigger when you die without any temporal respawn charges left.

LielenBlue, You create an issue on the issue tracker via the link above. You can zip your logs folder, and drag it into a comment on that issue, and I'll be able to go through your log files, and see if anything is wrong.

That would be a cool feature! Also, does the mod have a dependency or an incompatibilitie? I get an error on start up for this mod on single player. The game wont get past the loading screen for some reason...

LielenBlue, at the moment, no. I'll need to add an option to disable the minimap, and the F6 hotkey. I'll do that this weekend.

hello, I just wanted to ask if you can disable the mini map but keep the big map with this mod? I read the information and it seems like thats possible? 

when i return for 1.20 i cant wait to use this, for my server idea im going to set up :3. being able to disable world map, but keep mini will be nice =D

Apache there was a discussion on the discord about ways of doing something similar on the discord, and when your comment was brought up I just had to say - That sounds amazing, and as long as there is the ability to toggle certain features within that it would be amazingly useful!

A "limited local memory" is exactly what I would want for a limited-map vintage story game, where prospecting isn't made overly tedious... But you are still required to navigate manually as the map doesn't give you everything immediately

BanCannon, I've been looking into making the map reveal controllable, and found some interesting things. I can't simply change the radius around the player that the map reveals. At least, not easily at all, it will take a lot more experimentation for that. However, I may have found something even better. I can limit the radius around the player that the map reveals, however with the added side-effect that those are the only chunks that are rendered. The fog-of-war closes back in around the player on the map, removing chunks from the map that were visible before. I can also remove all a player's waypoints when they log out, so waypoints only exist for the current play session... or not, so you will end up seeing a bunch of waypoints in the middle of the blank map.

What do you think, is that useful? Does it go too far?

I like this concept a lot. Nice work. Just the right amount of limitations for me to feel more immersion without completely removing the map.

BanCannon, it's an interesting proposition. I've just had a look at the code for it, and it's all over the place. At first glance, I have no idea what controls what. But I'll keep digging, and experiment with a few options. I like the idea.

I've started a work item for it, here: https://github.com/ApacheTech-VintageStory-Mods/MinimalMapping/issues/2

Is it possible to modify the distance from player that the map is filled in as well? The default distance at which the map is filled in is so great that you can basically scout by UAV/Satillite. I would like to turn this down along with using the ability to disable X,Y,Z coordinates so that players have a functioning map of where they've been (finding your way back someplace you've been/marking findings in effect) but not so great that they use the map to scout.

It has been explained to me via discord that players maps being filled it directly related to their computer loading a chunk. I assume this means the functionality being asked about would be difficult to implement if even possible.

Thank you.

I deleted my error/crash "spam" comment as demanded, but I don't use Github and it seems I need an account to post an issue there, which I don't have. I no longer have the original eror/crash log and am not interested in reloading the mod to generate a new one and then open a Github account to post it there. I'm sure I am not the only one seeing the issue, and will wait for a mod update before giving it further consideration.

Vinter_Nacht, that will be the next step. I'm going to add a similar config system as Knapster, with the admin commands. It will allow me to go back and look at the whole settings sync, and see if I can pull it up to Gantry. I think this is the first "Quality of Life" mod I made that actively degraded the quality of life for the player. :P

I really like what you've done here. It gives you a sense of situational awareness (close-up map view) without storing a world map in your head. Could you make the minimum zoom range configurable? In case someone may want to lock it to 3 rather than allowing to change to 2 from 3.