the hide recipe is borked for female bornean elephants, you have 2 males in the recipes. you forgot to add "fe". lol

please update to 1.22

Seems like the code only limits runtime spawns by the amount of elephant already there. Please change it and add a config so that I can make realistic overhunting possible and turn runtime spawns way down. 

Any thoughts about putting more of them?
Like Deinotherium, platybelodon, and others families of "elephants"?

Please update 😢

Tentharchitect

Does this work with 1.22.x?

Please update

Do you have plans to update Elephantidae to 1.22?

This looks so good, please can you update the mod for 1.22.2?

NationOfLiberty i had similar issue with wold from another mod, the problem was the space. I had the wolf on a 1x1 space and didnt grow at all, the moment i broke him free, it turn in to an adult automatically. I dont know if is the same for you, but, try giving the mammoth more space on the pen as they are HUGE. hehehe if that doesnt work, then hopefully the author can find a fix.

Some config options for this mod would be really useful. I've found the eliphantidae largely trivial to hunt, and the sheer amount of resources dropped means you only need to hunt 3 or 4 for the entire game's supply of hide and fat, plus an insane amount of food. Granted, the amount of resources dropped is realistic, but there are too many ways to cheese them that are very unrealistic. I'd love to be able to tweak the health, damage, and drops to provide a better risk/reward. It would also be great to be able to configure the aggressiveness of animals to make them more of a threat. I have some experience with modding but the file structure and verbage was a bit too convoluted for me to make sense of for quick changes, so a config file would be irreplacable for most users.

Hello, I have some questions about the growth of Colombian mammoths. I've had several for months, but they aren't growing. How long does it usually take for them to go from baby to adult?

QueenOfCatPeople and AmyDestroyer i have the same issue, unable to ride :(((( version 1.0.16

I am having the same issue as AmyDestroyer, my Woolly Mammoths are Gen 10 and 11 and are not eqiuppable with any kind of riding equipment

Despite raising species to gen 10 I seem unable to put a saddle on any of them, though in previous versions of the mod I was able to.

Hello, the Bornean elephant pelt (female) does not seem to have an option to turn it into a raw hide. The male and calf pelts do seem to have the recipe in the handbook but the female doesn't.

how many portions are needed roughly for breeding?, i know the cows in the other pack take like 30 portions, curious if elephants will be higher number
thanks

so with taming and riding safely do they have to be a min of gen 10 then? or higher? if higher what gen do they need to be

Not sure if this is a bug with the current version but I bred gen 10 columbian mammoths on a normal play and could not saddle them. Went into a creative server to test the bush, asian, columbian, and wooly mammoths spawned and commanded into generation 10 and none of the mobs allowed any of the riding equipment to be placed. 

Can anyone help me troubleshoot why I cant put a saddle or bridle on my mammoth? its gen 10 so I know thats not the problem. I ideally want to have this troubleshooted before I really get them going on my survival world.

is this collection compatible with combat overhall ?

for some reasion non of thses mod spawn anywere 

Is there any way to config this mod? My friends in I found it almost trivial to hunt mammoth when its at least 2 of you and they are way to common in my experience to be this easy to kill. Especially with the sheer amount of STUFF they drop holy hell.

Mainly want to either change their spawn rate or their drops, if possible

which ones are ridable? i cant sadle any of them regardless of their generation for some reason. am i missing something?

Has anybody else the problem with FotS animals spawning in huge herds of like a dozen animals? VS 21.6 and newest FotS version on all mods.

Any plans to add a config to modify the spawn rates/herd sizes/meat drops/health/damage and tameability?

I'm trying to test your mods to see what rideable animal I want to try to tame, but try as I might I just cannot get elephants to accept any interaction to place stuff on them. I'm using the elephant specific ones, shift clicking, sneak-clicking, everything, but it just won't work.

Additionally, the reindeer in your other mod have stilted broken movement when ridden. They lurch forward then stop then lurch again. It's quite slow movement overall.

Hello, I seem to be having trouble placing a saddle and bridle on the elephants? I have only tried so far with Asian elephants up to gen 1

cant get enough of your mods man, so much diversities, so much liveliness added to the world, kudo

Is mounting elephants still possible?

Trying so hard to learn how to edit/config this
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Anyone know where to reduce the group size?

or

Make them spawn less common?

It is possibile to disable the carcass mechanic?

Is it possible to disable specific elephants? I'd like to remove the ones that were already extinct in the time period the game takes place in.

I for some reason cannot figure out how to put the bridle and saddle onto the elephants, I've a gen 11 columbian mammoth, gen 4 african elephant, gen 5 asian elephant and none of which I can find a slot on to ride

Elephants currently only eat when they are ready to breed if I'm not mistaken, will be going through and refining ai soonish ImJustaPanda

i cant seem to get any females to eat nomatter what i do i wasnt sure but i quarantined the male and sure enough the females arent eating. at least thats the case with the wooly mammoths i have ive provided dry grass cabbage spelt rice onions they wont take anything and thus wont breed.

You can see what spawns in the Group size section of the stats on this page VulcanNV 

Good to know Pomberry I had come up with a change over the summer for the high drop animals and then it was alterred during the 1.21 update in a way I didn't notice. Should get that fixed when I get to this pack for the full 1.21 update. Currently working on the dogs

These things actually drop so much meat that I genuinely cannot collect all of it due to a UI issue. (The loot window is in the upper right corner for whatever reason and I can't move the loot window and taking the extra stuff out of the slots didn't cause the loot window to get smaller...)

I saved and reloaded and that fixed it, so if you run into this same issue, do that.

do calfs spawn or only adults?

Herd ID shouldn't impact breeding, males only need to eat one portion to breed but I'll be going through this mod for the overhaul later this month and might find something causing this Fudgnutcicles

Woo! Glad you're enjoying it Shogun

I don't believe Butchering would cause that, sounds like a texture issue. It might be that one of your mods is manually setting the texture atlas to a certain size from back when that was needed before it dynamically grew, and your have more texture mods than that size can handle so new mods then have weird textures Snowfall94

Ever since the latest update whenever I start a new world my elephants are all white with like red squares on their front left shoulders

Could that be possibly from the Butchering mod needing an update? (not sure just a thought)
I know if that's the case it's not on you, I'm just asking because this like just started and I updated from 1.0.15 to 1.0.16 today

Btw they function perfectly fine, very hateful giant nerds. They're just white with red squares on that shoulder.

killed 2 wooly mammoths w/ pit trap and a load of bone arrows. love these fauna mods looks like meats back on the menu boys

I'm having troubles with my male bush elephants not eating and mating
Debug mode shows they are capable of performing the eating animation, but the hud says they have not consumed any portions.
I have plenty of ready, 40+ portion eaten female elephants nearby, and even after seperating their troughs, the males are still not showing if they have eaten any portions.
I do have a mod that tries to accelerate breeding times, but this was an issue even before the addition
Is it possible i could be doing something wrong? Male bush elephants in the guide book eat the same things as female elephants, and the male elephants' troughs are filled with the same hay the females have been eating
Debug mode also reveals the males have a Herd Id of 0 compared to the females having a Herd Id of 27640, so does that then mean females can't breed outside their own herds?
Would it also be possible to then use a command to change their Herd Id to make them compatible?

based  on visuals it was a mammoth so the modt hp. i intend to try again w/ pit trap

You can check their hp in the stats drop down menu. Entities slowly heal so depending on how you spaced those attacks out, some of the largest elephants and mammoths could survive what you are describing ShogunS9

are these things possible to kill? i used 50+ arrows and idk how many spear throws on one and never dropped it.

You need to spawn an elephant or locate a wild elephant and use the set generation command on them in order to unlock the high generation domestication behaviors on them. EJ2u
You can find all the commands in the in game handbook

Ok so im running into a problem with spawning threw commands, i was trying to spawn a domesticated mammoth or asian elephant and non of the commands are working. Or they just dont work. I cant really find anything on youtuber or google that helps. If you or someone ho plays with this mod enough that they could lmk what the command is to test out the domesticated elephants that would be awsome. Sorry for asking once again.

Glad to hear it's all working, thanks for confirming it wasn't a bug RadianceRed!

I just wanted to report back after a few days of activity with multiple players on the server. All the animals are starting to spawn in now so we're all good. I appreciate your reply as well. We're all loving the mods!

There is no additional set up, but the four you listed have a very low respawn rate and low population density in order to prevent players from being swarmed by megafauna respawning around their base. It's likely only a matter of time, but if you don't want to wait you can try the command /entity count to see if any of the modded entities are out in the world in places you haven't checked RadianceRed

Hey,

I installed this mod, bovinae, pantherinae, and rhinocerotidae today on my 1.21.1 server, which has an already created map from a few weeks ago when 1.21.0 released. I'm able to spawn all the animals via creative mode but they do not seem to be spawning in naturally. I've explored the map and went to an unexplored section of the map with no luck on spawns. However, I created a new singleplayer world and saw all the animals spawn almost instantly.

I see in the FAQ that this is okay to add and remove to an existing world. Are there some config files that I need to edit or is there some mod dependency that I need other than the animal mods themselves? Is there a log file that would report any spawning errors?

Any info will help. Thanks in advance and I love the work you've done with your mods.

Have fun hunting MumbiceGonzini!

I'd be open to taking them on as a commission once I'm accepting more Fudgnutcicles they fall outside my planned roster but within my commission time zone of having interacted with Homo sapiens. Indricotherium however is outside my scope completely

Would you concider adding palaeoxodon namadicus to this mod? Shoulder height estimates would place it at either 4.5 meters tall to at most 5.2 meters. Weight estimates would place it 13.2 tons to 18.4 tons in some estimates, to 22 tons for the largest estimate.
Imagine repelling down a cliff blindly, only to come face to face with a 5 and a quarter block tall behemoth of a mini-boss wandering the grasslands and getting stomped to smitherenes immediately after.
Then again, if you could chase it off a cliff I bet even the crushed remains would be wonderfully lucrative

P. Namidicus was probably the largest mammal to live, and this image from wikipedia displays the maximum size estimate of Namidicus compared to a non-seraph and the other potential largest mammal, a hornless rhinocerotid called indricotherium.
I think its pretty nifty, and it also would be pretty funny if you just dropped paraceratherium/indricotherium into your rhinocerotidae mod since they look way out of place.

Either way, your mods are really wonderful and really interesting, keep up the good work!!!

Super happy to see this one updated- i love fufilling my caveman fantasies by hunting mammoths with spears.

A small update to get it working without crashes in 1.21, the ai overhaul and other 1.21 features will come later.

Riding has been temporarily disabled so I can get the taming system updated smoothly in the later update.

Thank you both for saying so! I think they should still be on track for updating today. Got everything but the taming system implemented

i cant twait for this to update to 1.21.1 for my Server WISPS we use all of his mods, they are so great . Every Single mod he has we have it on our server !

Great Modder ! 

Tentharchitect Okay! Good to hear, take all the time you need, I love all of your mods and i understand stuff like this can take a lot of work/time

Yeah that's due to riding changing and breaking animals using the older style. I'll try to get this pack updated tomorrow if I can keep my current modding pace FluffyTheBeowolf

Hey, I know you're probably aware of this and trying to update all your mods, but I can't get any of the elephantidae to spawn both naturally and in creative. I'm not sure if this is a 1.21 issue or what. But thought I should at least drop a comment to lyk

Yep, I'm aware and slowly updating all the mods Bobosaw

That would be due to the changes to the riding system, should be fixed when I get to the elephant pack tRead

The seekfoodandeat ai task is quirky, but Maltiez updated all the ai tasks and I'm implementing them in the 1.21 version. Hopefully it'll behave more consistently after that OliveTree

Thank you so much for saying so PhoenixMastM I'm really excited to get them out, and looking forward to having a schedule more conducive to modding soon!

All mods that add any headgear like horns or antlers currently break all vanilla antlers. I just did some tests with my modlist and discovered this. This included Bovinae, Elephatidae, Cervinae, Rhinocerotidae, and Legacy of Phanerozoic mod. Hopefully this can be fixed soon!

The only FOTSA mods I'm having problems with in 1.21.1 are Elephantidae and Pantherinae.  From the creative menu, I can spawn the pygmy elephant fine, but any larger ones crash my client.

I'm having an issue where only one Elephant in an enclosure will eat, evn if I leave plenty of food sources around

Hey Tentharchitect , wanted to thank you for all your work. Your mods make my game play immeasurably better. Can't wait to see these updated for 1.21. I'm patient, take the time you need to get them right so we can enjoy them. :)

My summer job schedule of 80 hours a week ends on the 26th. Right now I have only 6-12 hours to mod a week and probably 120-200 hours to go on updating the whole FotSA series. I'm currently puzzling out the last issues with the new ai overhaul and should have my first complete entity file today hopefully. My tentative plan is to start releasing the mods I've finished come the 26th one at a time so I have a chance to see if weirdness happens as the new overhaul changes a lot and I expect a bunch of emergent outcomes to occur that I can't test for in that time frame.

Hey, just to confirm, this does cause a crash in 1.21. Hoping to can update soon, and your other mods, love them 

currently the question marks don't show up, it just crashes the game ;) When will version 1.21.0 be released?

PLEASE DO NOT USE THIS MOD ON 1.21 UNTIL IT HAS BEEN UPDATED!

I'm working on updating my mods, but due to how the riding entities were changed, any loaded in will disappear until it is updated.

New release, new issue! :( While I saw two calf entities, no adults whatsoever spawned. Using 1.21 stable

Currently there is no way to attack with mounts in the base game, so that is not possible manularuelo04

Whenever I get to updating the 1.21 one will be able to drive elephants by charging them with a torch RaelinVel

Does anyone have advice on herding elephants for the beginning of domestication? The server I play on is running this mod which I love because I really like elephants, but they're very spread out and don't seem to be wary of me in game. So I'm unsure how to round a few up or if there is some kind of special transport trap like with chickens and baskets. I'd really like to add a few to my animal reserve.

hello, can the domestic elephants attack while the player rides them like the ancient historical war elephants?

Yep, I whitelist all my wild animal species for Biomes so no need to do it yourself PandaBearJelly

Your region mods all say they are compatible with the Biomes mod. Is the same true with your fauna mods, or will I need to whitelist everything?

Elephants have one of the longest growth times of living mammals, and I scale all my animal baby growth times to 1/50th the number of irl hours. So something that takes 1 year to grow will take 175 in game hours, which could be just under one game month on default time. Assuming you're playing on normal month and time length, it'll be just under a year for an elephant baby to grow up Groblockia

is it normal that wild calfs do not seem to grow up? trapped two of them for 3 ingame months now and they don't want to grow up

Thanks for demonstrating how to get this error to occur, I'll make a note to change the knock back resistances in the next round of bug fixes

Hi, could you please fix the problem with spears like this:

"knockbackResistanceByType": {
    "*-baby-*-mammuthusexilis": 1, 
    "*-adult-*-palaeoloxodoncypriotes": 1,
    "*-baby-*-palaeoloxodoncypriotes": 1,
    "*-adult-*": 1,
    "*-baby-*": 1
}

With the value set to one, the issue doesn’t occur. I haven’t tried other values.
I think it's worth trying other values if you want, but the current ones in the mod make elephants fly when hit by a thrown spear.

The issue in question:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NtliAYff30Qy8kzgZsHh-fpiwpRKOAof/view?usp=sharing
Game version: 1.20.12
Only this mod is installed.

No cross breeding between species in this pack, I've only set that up with the canus genus for the time being choconinja

As for ivory plans, I am more interested in making animal packs with my modding time, but encourage folks to make add-ons to this series. I'm trying to create a stable modding series for years to come so folks can have confidence that their add-on mods won't break FRENKI

Any plans to make crafting recipes from ivory? Maybe furniture or tool handles that lasts longer?

Is there cross breeding between species?

Tentharchitect

Please add compatibility with Butchering mod. We love hunt on this creatures and cook them! Yammy!

I just settled in the area where mammoths spawn. Gotta love the new update ^^

I think people are just getting deceived by the large amount of meat at once: they take ages to breed and the meat goes bad unless you can rush to preserve it (which other mods admittedly make easier). Or maybe some people are just settling where there's lots of them spawning?

cool! with these changes, I should probably treat the elephants and rhinos with more respect lol👍

You're welcome to tweak the numbers, but no that wasn't intentional. The hide is a single item so something it rounds down and doesn't drop. The rest is imbalanced, it should be about twice as much if I made them in line with the boar and sheep. Bapho

Can the mod be tweaked?
This and 'primitive survival' got me burrowed under a mountain of meat!

By building a simple, big deadfall pit trap I was able to harvest a mammoth fully, netting 68 red meat AND 69 bush meat! (also 27 fat and for some reason no hides - must have been one of those rare naked breeds... ^^)

This cannot be intended, can it?

Good to know! I'll take a look

Not currently no, I've had a very large amount of configured stats requested of me and have decided to only implement the ones folks are willing to write up and send my way. The rhinos had their red meat drops configured, so one could follow that format

Is there any config available to mess around with hp, drops, and damage values easily? Someone on my server found out how to kite then in shallow water. I have upped my mob swim speed from 200 to 250% and I'll see if it helps, but I'm also curious if I'm able to nerf the drops by like 10-20% or make the HP like 30% larger

Maybe even make the attack range longer if it's possible?

gotcha, neat stuff!

Thanks Zuric! So short answer, is yes, I could crank up the aggro range to the render limit and make that impossible. That said, the bigger the range, the more pathfinding calculations the game has to do and at the scale of my project that can become a noticable issue. I'm open to bumping it up a bit more, but for the most part I try to keep to ranges the base game uses, except in a few niche situations where there isn't as much to calculate, like scavengers seeking a static carcass from a long range.

Thank you for all of the hard work you have put into your mods, my brother and I wouldnt want to play without all of the awesome FotSA mobs! (except for caninae as we feel that vanilla wolves are more rewarding and offer more of a challenge to us during gameplay)

During our current game, we discovered that it is extremely easy to sit outside of a mammoth's aggro range and shoot it with arrows, wait for it to calm down and proceed to shoot it again. I have no idea whether it would be possible to implement, but if the mammoth were to be shot and then aggresively pursue their attacker from a far distance away, that would make it far more difficult to cheese! Anyways I think you are so cool for your dedication to fauna and flora for this wonderful game vintage story, and i hope you have a great day!

I was able to eventually harvest a mammoth but it took a WHILE to find the right hit box so I think you are right, Tentharchitect, the hitbox is too small. It keeps wanting me to put chests and saddle blankets on the back of the mammoth even when dead.

So for anyone having issues while we wait patiently for this to be fixed, just keep trying and moving around and looking for the right hitbox. It's there, it's just elusive.

Elephants... don't like peanuts?

This is outrageous! I demand a full refund!

No issues with using butchery I believe, but it isn't patched on my end for stuff like unique butchered models.
The male to female ratio should be 50/50, might be bad rng

And my current theory on the mammoths being unharvestable is the dead hitbox was set to be too small, once I finish my current commission I'm planning on checking that

Tentharchitect I can't seem to figure out if it's a mod interaction or not. I've tried with and without various mods with no luck. It's also only the mammoths too for whatever reason.

Wish I could give more info.

What's the ratio of male to female spawning, I seem to have only females spawning so far?

This may be a stupid question, but do these mods work with butchery? If not officially, does having both mods cause issues?

I've tried to replicate this and can't as of yet, looking into it

I'm having the same problem as RaspberryCommie. The dead mammoths are completely uninteractable when trying to harvest. I don't have the butchery mod installed, just the FotSA and Legacy of the Phanerozoic. I also noticed this change only seemed to happen once I updated my game to 1.20.8, if that helps at all.

I have no idea if it's your mod or an interaction with another one, but I managed to kill a wooly mammoth that got stuck in a pit, but when I went to harvest it, it was entirely uninteractable after I used my knife on it. I thought it might have been the butchery mod so I removed that one real quick but it was still uninteractable. Just to be safe I went into creative, spawned another one and killed it and it was still uninteractable.

I've been getting reports of that since the mod came out but still can't replicate it. Thanks for specifying thrown spears, that does narrow it down. 

You need a knife to craft them into hides. Press H while selecting an item and the in built handbook will show you the recipes

Question for you, or anyone really, but it says they have a unique pelt that can be used to craft hides, but it's not specified how to use those unique pelts to craft hides. Been driving me crazy for a few days trying to figure it out. Some information on how to do so would really be appreciated. I've got a chest of these modded pelts filling up that I can't really use. Thanks :) Tentharchitect

these guys take insane amounts of knockback from a thrown spear. so much so that they will lose agro and be really easy to hunt on foot with a inv full of stone spears 

Oachkatzel

I guess you will find them in the zip file in \assets\elephantidae\entities\land\elephantidae.json or assets\elephantidae\itemtypes\animals.json

Good day, 

Is it possible to find somewhere the entidy IDs of the mammoths?

I wanna put them into the Cages mod.

Thanks in advance

The animals in this mod spawn when the world generates, as opposed to only spawning during run time.
The animals in this mod drop loot from the Woolandmore mod if you have that mod enabled Nymous

Added-Worldgen spawn
Added-Woolandmore drops

uhh what does that mean?

That's to be expected, there are no config files for this mod. I've had dozens of hours of work requested in config files alone, so I'm opting to only add the ones folks are willing to make

i cannot find any config file for this mod 🙁

@Evoken: Why not fencing them in and maybe domesticating them? We had a pack of columbian mammoth spawning directly in front of our gates, well, I died quite a lot in the progress, but now we have them fenced in, and after half a year ingame 4 females are pregnant with generation 1 babies. They took almost 70+ hayballs each, so it's not cheap nor fast, but it shouldn't, really, for such a powerful animal. Make it smarter then me: build a fenced area nearby, put some troughs down and fill them, wait for them to enter, and close behind them. Much less painful. And if you don't want to breed them, just go with the fences, it will keep you safe...

I'm a bit jealous - we had to go quite a bit north to find woolly mammoth, and now I think about moving there for a while and domesticating them aswell, love them... 

The woolly rhino meat drops is the only config someone has made and sent me. You're welcome to adjust their spawn rate in their entity file or write up a config file and send it my way, but I already have regular complaints of them being too rare and want to keep the compromise I currently have. Thanks Evoken
 I don't know how to make them personally, have too much on my plate at the moment. I think it's fairly straight forward, but haven't researched them GoblinKing
 I believe these mods are compatible with Butchering, I just haven't personally played with Butchering to confirm

First - the models are amazing, i love them so much! :) But i think that Woolly Mammoths spawn too often. When starting the game in default climate in about month in game they tend to spawn - always. I was playing with this mod for about 30-40 hours, and because of hadcore mode i died like 4 times. I created my survival base in different parts of default climate 4 times and every single time after 5-10 ingame days Woolly Mammoths appear... I really like them but they are annoying when i have to deal with them all the time. Is it possible you could lower their spawn chance? I'm using ConfigLib but the only mod i see with config is the one with rhino's. Anyway great mods!

I too am wondering about compatibility with the Butchering mod :). 

Futur Compatibility with Butchering for all FOTSA mods ?

is there a way to learn how to make a config file for animals? is it simple? because if so I wouldn't mind learning it.

I have no plans to make the drops less realistic, but you are welcome to make a config file and I'll add it to the mod so you can adjust it to your preference!

can a nerf be done for the amount of hides n meat + fat you get?

Yeah the attenuation of the base game is pretty wonky. I've been making animal calls audible from smaller and smaller ranges as time goes on to minimize this, but it's something that will need to be addressed on the base game side to fully fix it. I'm hoping it improves soon, I'd like animal calls to be audible from a more realistic range so the sounds of distant big cats and elephant herds mix with closer animal calls

I think it's a vanilla bug, Tenth. The directional audio in this game is broken, vanilla wolves sometimes have that issue too but it's more noticeable with modded animals since a lot of modded animals make noise more frequently than most vanilla ones. I'm not sure whether toggling directional audio in the game settings actually helps or not.

I hear mammoth sounds extremely close even at depth level 50. Could this be a mod issue, or is it something from the game itself?

Yeah I noticed that in testing as well, it seems like there is some desync from where an audio is emitted and where the entity is, but I do not know what might be causing it, or if it's a base game bug that just hasn't been discovered

Hello! I have been using your mod in my server for a while now and everybody loves it. We have noticed one thing tho - elephant sounds seem to be coming from the wrong direction. The onky elephants we have around our base at the moment are the ones kept in a pen for domesticating. We could be looking straight at them but it would still sound like there are elephants behind us. 

You're welcome to adjust the spawn rate in their entity file, but as it stands I still have folks occasionally asking for it to be raised. Elephants have very wide climate conditions so despite having the same spawn rate as rhinos and big cats they do show up a bit more often. Markliuz

I scale by weight not difficulty, though you are welcome to adjust the values to meet your gameplay goals!
Pretty sure I figured out the huge pelt crash and should have an update out within the week

Balance Feedback: Just took down my first mammoth. I was expecting like 50 to 70 meat, considering the 1 to 20 you get in base game. 350 red meat AND 330 bushmeat seemed like balance overkill, over 600 meat on one kill. They have more HP and Damage than bears, yes, but I do not consider them 40 times harder to hunt.

Hi!!

I don't know why, but when i try to check how to transform the special pelt into huge pelt it crashes....

Hello! 
I don't actually know what the command is to delete a specific id type, but I believe you need a letter before the [] brackets, e will delete all, l will delete those you're looking at and so forth. There should be one for all of that id in the area.

As for the carcass, it won't despawn on its own, but scavengers will eat it eventually if you have any of those animal packs. Jackals and other dogs and civets and genets will seek out most carcasses, and once I get the hyenas, wolverines and tasmanian devils they will have a unique ai task to seek out carcasses over long distances Lucifleur 

Hello! 
First I'd like to mention that I really love your mods; I have almost all of them and am really enjoying what they bring to my game!
I also have what I hope is a quick question: I ran entity count and saw that there is an elephant carcass somewhere, which of course is blocking the spawning of elephants in the area I find myself wanting them to be. I can't find this carcass to destroy it, and I've been looking for real life hours now. 
I've tried /entity remove [elephantidae-carcass] and it doesn't work, all it will say is 'too many arguments'. I admit I am very unfamiliar with running commands and using entity and item IDs for this game. 
Will the carcass eventually despawn on its own? Could I ask for a code to destroy that entity, if there is one? I don't want to remove all entities, as I'm pretty sure it would also remove my animals I am domesticating. They were in the count, anyway...

Thank you so much for your time, and all the great animals!

There are, check the stats in the mod description for what they are for each species LunaGore

Are there specific spawn requirements? Like African Elephants only showing up in Savanah/Desert  areas and Mammoths in snowy area?

I just checked it in game, the female woolly mammoth eats from the troughs as expected once she is ready to mate. I think the animation you are seeing where they don't gain portions is their idle grazing animation. ssunny2008

Hi, just wanted to add to your response, that i don´t believe it´s a UI thing. The through is simply not losing any portions. If i dismantle it, i´ll get everything back.

Opened my backyard doors just to find myself standing eye to eye with an adult woolly mammoth that proceed to stomp me to death the moment it saw me.

Now I'm plotting a revenge on my tusked nemesis.

10/10

I'll look into it, though I think it's something to do with the UI not working past a certain point. I've had folks report they've been able to breed mammoths thus far. 

Thanks!

Hi there,

i´ve 3 female and 1 male elephant (Wolly Mammoths), but it seems that the female ones are somewhat bugged. I see the walking to the large through, i can see some kind of "eating-animation", but it won´t lose any portions. (Stucks on 8...) The male is working as intended.

I guess it´ll cause an issue with breeding, could you look into it?

Thanks in advance and for all your great mods in general!

Interesting, I'll check out the kobold player model, but yeah it seems like something is causing their very high knock back resist to not function correctly

Not using any combat related mods, just your animal mods and I think Plains and Valleys Tentharchitect

Additionally using Kobold playermodels which should have no effect but I thought I'd mention it.

I'm only making Holocene animals outside of commissions, so the only terror bird I'll be making is the late surviving one Annastasija
As for the flying mammoths, I think there is a mod conflict as I've been unable to replicate this yet a few folks have reported it. Mind sending me what combat related mods you are using Nahmy

When speared, mammoths go flying 20 feet into the air. This allows a single stone spear to launch one off a mountain and instakill it effortlessly.

Have you thought about adding Terror birds? They were around during wooly mammoth and sabertooth tiger days. They would add a really scary yet cool option for aggresive animals..... and I dream of riding one 

I think the UI just doesn't handle that high of a number, but I know some folks have been able to breed them and the females will stop eating once they are ready to breed

Its not displaying how many portions the female wolly mammoth has eaten so I don't know how far away we are from it getting pregnant

Today will be mass updating for 1.20.4 looks like 😅

And I have no interest in making non-avian dinosaurs, there are plenty of talented modders who will hopefully somebody bring them to the game!

i have an idea for consideration, how about a t-rex or dinosaurs so us pitiful creatures may run in hopeless terror during primitive times

as of 1.20.4 rc4

https://pastebin.com/ch0Bm5C2

I know you prob tech arent there yet anyway but as of tonight this happenend upon loading server

Increase your view distance so more chunks are loaded in, have players spread out so more chunks are loaded in, edit the json files to increase the chance per tick per chunk of an elephant spawning

is there a way to cut down on the spawn time on them Tentharchitect

You can place any of the attachables to them while they are alive and up, they'll just attack you while you do so until gen 3 Tupperware

Glad you got that working MadMax!

And so long as you are in an area that has their climate criteria elephants or an elephant carcass will just spawn eventually. I've seen them take 20 minutes, and take over 10 hours zixsum

how do i get this to spawn i add them to my mod for the server i have but i been on here for 5hrs and i have not see one is there a spot i have to put them in to make therm spawn

How can I get hides from these animals? I'm getting pelt only which is less useful than hides as I can make leather from hides but not from pelts.
Your mods are great btw.

Edit:
Found it. just using a knife on the pelt you get hides :-)

Okay... can you just place the saddle and bridle on them while they are alive and up?

Currently there is no taming system, once that is added to the base game I'll implement it for elephants. Elephants can be domesticated over generations, though pose a significant threat to the player until they reach generation 3 when they’ll no longer attack the player. While you can place saddles and bridles on elephants not yet at gen 3, they will potentially kill you while attempting to mount or dismount them.

Howdy, how do you actually tame the mammoths? Everytime I've tried I just end up with a mortally wounded mammoth and a chimp (me) spam clicking with a poultice on its fat head, with a saddle on its back, while it screams in agony and begs to die. I just want to bring it home and make it my friend. 

LaDestitute They have a 3 block attack range up and down.

thought it was just me, i trapped a mammoth in a 4x4x4 pit and i was like on the outside edge on top near it and it was able to one-shot me

Well, I have learned the hard way if you hear an elephant. Go another way. Don't get close enough to see it. Unless you are in wide open plains. But having them and all the other animals sure does make the world seen more alive. It would be real hard to go back to vanilla now. I have gotten used to little penguins at my feet on the beech. Or elephants or a rino on the horizon. 

I'd be curious to hear if that changes after this latest update, seems like the aggro range for protective mothers was the thing getting a lot of folks. 
Now it should be in line with what the recommended distance is to stay away from elephants irl 

Mendall To be fair, elephants (and wild herbivores in general) are very, very dangerous and aggressive animals. They have to be to fend off carnivores. It's very realistic LOL

lol lol lol your elephants though I love them have killed me more this play through than anything EVER. They are just plain EVIL. 

As for aging, I have all my animals grow up 50 times irl rates in hours, and gestation is 5 times rate in irl days. I'll post a section of the entity file down below for folks to refer to. As of now, it's tediously long but it's mostly a placeholder until the taming system comes out in the base game later this year, at which point I'll implement that for elephants. KnightSilver


{"code": "multiply",
"enabledByType": {
"*-adult-female-*": true,
"*": false
},
"spawnEntityCodesByType": {
"*-adult-female-*": [ { "code":"elephantidae:elephantidae-baby-female-{type}"}, {"code": "elephantidae:elephantidae-baby-male-{type}"} ]},
"requiresNearbyEntityCodeByType": {
"*-adult-female-*": "elephantidae:elephantidae-adult-male-{type}"},
"requiresNearbyEntityRange": 10,
"spawnQuantityMin": 1,
"spawnQuantityMaxByType": {"*": 1},
"pregnancyDaysByType": {"*-elephasmaximus": 121,"*-elephasmaximusborneensis": 121,"*-loxodontaafricana": 140,"*-loxodontacyclotis": 140,"*-mammuthuscolumbi": 135,"*-mammuthusexilis": 115,"*-mammuthusprimigenius": 135,"*-palaeoloxodoncypriotes": 37},
"multiplyCooldownDaysMinByType": {"*": 54},
"multiplyCooldownDaysMaxByType": {"*": 90},
"portionsEatenForMultiplyByType": {"*-elephasmaximus": 52,"*-elephasmaximusborneensis": 48,"*-loxodontaafricana": 55,"*-loxodontacyclotis": 35,"*-mammuthuscolumbi": 75,"*-mammuthusexilis": 33,"*-mammuthusprimigenius": 65,"*-palaeoloxodoncypriotes": 14}
},
{ "code": "milkable", "enabledByType": { "*-female-adult": true, "*": false } },
{"code": "grow",
"enabledByType": {
"*-baby-*": true,
"*": false
},
"hoursToGrowByType": {"*-elephasmaximus": 2016,"*-elephasmaximusborneensis": 2016,"*-loxodontaafricana": 2016,"*-loxodontacyclotis": 2016,"*-mammuthuscolumbi": 2628,"*-mammuthusexilis": 2016,"*-mammuthusprimigenius": 2628,"*-palaeoloxodoncypriotes": 2628},
"adultEntityCodesByType": {
"*-baby-male-*": ["elephantidae:elephantidae-adult-male-{type}"],
"*-baby-female-*": ["elephantidae:elephantidae-adult-female-{type}"]
}
},

Seems like there is something missing from the mortally wounded system as it isn't working and isn't supposed to occur for wild elephants, only those gen 1 or above. I'm thinking of disabling it until I learn more. Praal

Howdy, been working on domesticating elephants to ride on my server but it feels like its taking way too long for them to grow up. I found a random spawned female woolly mammoth and its been over 6 months and it still hasnt grew up. What are the exact stats for them to grow up so i can know if im just wasting my time. 

On our server it seems the mortally wounded elephants can't be killed (which is a pain).  It may be a combination with Combat Overhaul, as weapons don't hit them once they are down.  I can shoot a crossbow right through one, or swing a dagger/falx through it and just hit the blocks behind it.  Would it be possible to make the downed behavior an option that can be turned on/off?

No, currently the healing doesn't seem to work. I'm not sure what else is required. You can put a saddle and bridle on any generation of elephant, but those below gen three will attack the player

Hi, amazing mod I really enjoy it! But I can't really figure out how to ride the elephants I already have the saddle and bridle. Am I supposed to down then heal them first? If so, how do I heal them? Or do I have to get them to a certain generation?

Thanks

Ah okay, so it wasn't a Glitch then? Good to know I was really Concerned as this is the only ones I have encountered! Tentharchitect

That's correct. Male elephants typically go solo or form small groups of males, while females will have larger herds along with their babies JaxsonBright
The males travel much farther in a day however and are more prone to leaving a region and letting more spawn there, or getting into dangerous situations

Tentharchitect

I have a Herd of three and all are Male, Which seemed Odd as one would think that one should be Female?

I think that's just bad RNG, I've had at least one spawning of female woolly mammoths during testing, but can double check JaxsonBright

Tentharchitect 

I don't know if this is a Glitch or just Bad Luck, but All the Woolly mammoth's I run into are Male, I have not seen a Female yet

Amazing mod

Thanks MousePlant! They are 1/50th irl in hours, you can find them in the growth section of the elephantidae entity file MousePlant

Love all of your mods so far!

Could we have the numbers on how long the babies take to grow into adults please?

Mammoth, Mammoth, Big ol' height,

In the forests of the night;

(I keep getting jumpscared. )

Ah good eye, looks like I might not have hit save when I set the HP from this chart and it stayed at the rhino amounts. Should have that updated soon!
So with their running speed, it should be slower than the elk, the high speed chase is only for the short burst before it reaches the player, not their longer over land travel speed. I'll see if I can figure out why it's using elk speeds and lower it if possible

Are those stats in the description above correct? Cause the HP of the elephants in the elephantidae.json seem completely different?

Another thing - when I'm being chased by an elephant they run at great speed. But when I mount one, they move exactly like Elk mount instead, which is much slower...

If it is added to the base game, I could do that. I'm not coding in unique items though Dragonknight951

Tentharchitect Maybe add some kind of item to "initiate" the healing process that marks them as owned? Some kind of treat to make them trust you enough that you can heal them.

Gotcha, it might be the case that they need to be owned before healing is possible, not sure if I can implement that or else wild ones will count as owned. As for the saddle, that was from my earlier testing, I should be able to remove that now, and will do. 

Glad to hear it's otherwise working out for you!

Tentharchitect I originally asked because I wasn't able to revive a downed mammoth with poultices. When looking at a downed elk it displays a heal action. There is no heal action when looking at a downed mammoth. Also, some of the slots on the mammoth accept unexpected items. I can put elk saddles in the bridle slot for instance.

Besides that, everything else seems to be working. Thanks for all the great mods! They add a lot of variety to the world

Glad that worked out Husarior, and thanks! It's a lot of work but pretty awesome to see folks using my creations!

And in theory you should be able to heal them like you can with the elk, but I haven't rigoruously tested it rhino1998

Tentharchitect You were right. Updated NVIDIA drivers and there's no black blocks nor artifacts.

Thank you for that info and for making and maintaining these mods as well. 😊

Is there a way to revive a mortally wounded mammoth?

I am being hunted by mammoths

(they always sound like they're right next to me, even when they're out of eyesight. They are very large very lethal landmines. If you see one it is already too late.)

So that mostly works out from what I can tell. The only difference is that it might not adjust the hour and day count based on days of the month, so it might be a different due to how you converted things. Spacecowboy08p

And as for shortening domestication and adjusting drops, you can adjust any value pretty easily by editing the json files with a text editor. If there is a given value you want saved, I'd be happy to integrate any config files folks set up with config library so values aren't reset by mod updates. Dageslav

Can the domestication process be shortened somehow? 55 months for Gen 3 is extreme from a gameplay perspective. Maybe just reduce its meat to a reasonable 40? Creatures in your mods in general give players way too much meat for the effort required. I understand the argument for realism of animal just being fat, but the combat is not realistic, and it's fairly easy to kill even an elephant in this game by placing 5 block tower and just pelting it with copper arrows. 

So if my math is mathin... the African Bush Elephant will take 132 in game days to give birth and 88 days to reach "maturity" so 220 days per Generation, so to speedrun a mature Gen 3 it would take about 660 in game days, on 12 day months thats 55 months, so 4.5 years total? I think that's definitely fair for how huge they are but am I accurate? Netsirk00

Also Tentharchitect I've also encountered "unkillable" downed AB Elephants but maybe it was due to their large health pool it seemed that way. After going through several stone spears on one downed We gave up and decided to wait it out which seemed to work. 100+ Redmeat and 300+ bushmeat when we got back to butchering it

Thanks Cuttlebear! As for the downed state, in my testing it was killable, and it uses the new elk's mortally wounded state. I've had a couple reports of them being unkillable from other folks, so I'm wondering if a mod is interfering with the mortally wounded state and folks didn't notice before since it prevents your elk from being killed.

This mod is so cool Tentharchitect! We had an elephant go into a "downed" state and it became unkillable. Is that intended? Is there supposed to be some way to finish it off?

Gestation is 1/5th irl length in days, and maturation is 1/50th irl lenth in hours. It is different for different species and you can find the exact amount in the growth section of the entity file. 
Sounds about right for respawn, it's random so no matter how low I put it there is always a chance of it being shorter than average. Netsirk00

Approximately how long is the gestation period for them? Are there different lengths for each species? If so I'm curious to know for the African Bush Elephants specifically.

Additionally, there was a herd of 3 to spawn within a couple of hours (2-3) after breaking the initial spawn carcass on my boyfriend and I's server (2 people).

So to confirm what RosstheGreat said, they have very slow respawns to avoid folks getting swamped with elephants, 4-6 hours being my goal. 

As for your questions Penacle, all but the Cyprus dwarf elephant can be ridden, and all species can be domesticated via the normal game methods of doing so. Yep, that means they all have the same diet. Their tusks grow over time, with how the antlersystem is set up you'll see stage 1,2 and rarely stage 3 tusks on spawn for animals that use all 9 stages of the antlersystem. For the bushmeat/redmeat ratio, I'm just tired of the disparaging comments folks have said about it, and probably went too far. I think 50/50 makes sense and would be the easiest for me to calculate. 

As for the running and charging animations, a couple things went wrong there. I calculated it based on their feet movement in a straight run, so their legs should line up when running or charging (Except they often turn initially, which looks silly but not preventable). The issue is that turned out to be way more movement than expected, so I should probably just gut the ear, head, trunk and tail movement keyframes so they aren't as animated by comparison. I'd imagine that'll look a lot better and will make the mod file size smaller.

Thanks for commenting, and glad you're enjoying them Penacle
(I don't plan to add riding, unless someone else offers to make rhino saddles/bridles/etc.. as I'd prefer to make more animals than riding items.)

YASSSSS MAMMOTHS!!!

Thank you for making this, and all your other mods!! Literally the best animal mods!!

I have a few questions and suggestions:

Are all the species tameable/rideable, or just the Asian Elephant shown?

Does the || in the stats table just mean they all have the same diet?

Do their tusks grow with time?
All the ones I've seen spawn so far have very short tusks... But maybe that was just RNG.

Do you also plan to make 75% of their meat drops bushmeat, like you recently updated with the Rhinos?
I get that people are complaining one way or another about it being too generous or not generous enough, and finding a balance has been hard. I guess count me in the camp of 'MOAR', as I think 75% is a bit too much bushmeat... but I get the reason for it. Maybe 50%, or 25%...? So they're still high reward for high risk to hunt, and worth the trouble of trying to capture and domesticate. (Not that bushmeat is worthless, but... eh...)

Also, if possible, you might want to slow down the running Animation speed for them. (The speed of the actual animation, not how fast they can run.)
It seems a little fast/spazzy for such large creatures.
I'm sure RL Elephants can move surprisingly fast, but... not that fast. Their tails go crazy, in particular. This is only my opinion, but it kind of breaks their majestic aire for me when they look like a helicopter about to take off.

Thats it for now I guess! Thank you for all your amazing mods!
(I am super excited for possibly being able to ride Rhinos at some point!!)

Their spawns are very slow, I believe in my server with 3-4 active people in a region it took us around 4-5 hours to see our first one, and a new region it took around 2-3 hours to find another. They take a WHILE to spawn.

Hey, I think I'm having an issue because I can't see animals spawning by themself. Should I wait longer or there an issue with new game update?

Also, I've heard this report from some other folks not using my mods. Apparently the black screen when updating to 1.20 can be caused by out of date drivers Husarior

I'm leaving non-avian dinosaurs to other modders, as I've got my 1200 or so Holocene animals and 1100 or so plants I'd like to do first to make a stone age experience complete purestygian

I am sure this has been said before, but have you considered adding dinosaurs?  I feel like that is something missing that would be awesome.

This one and Caninae make my world from 1.19.8 converted to 1.20.1 all black. If I create new world, it seems to be no problem.

You are incredible, these and your floral zones mods make the game some much more alive! thank you!

seriously you are the modder that keeps the game alive, tyron must think on adding some of this amazing animals into the game, seriously amazing content both in the biology, animation, design, and implementation department

i rarely write comments, but seeing all the mods you create for this game is dope. most appreciated

Thanks all! Happy to bring these guys to the game!
Will be updating the other animal mods to interact with the elephants shortly, and sounds like make a few bug fixes, tweaks and updates after that.

Wow that was quick! Thanks for packaging and posting this mod, will definitely add to my new SP world!

Absolutely spectacular! Thank you for all your hard work - you make Vintage Story worlds alive.

En attendant la prochaine maj, voici la traduction fr (fr.json).

The model work in this mod is absolutely incredible! That being said, the balance feels way off at the moment. A family of 7 Columbian mammoths spawned on my small island and they ran instead of fighting back when I hunted them, meaning I could pick off just a few babies and immediately got tons of fat and meat for very little effort. Super excited with the possibility of elephant riding and domestication though, keep it up!

HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR

https://pastebin.com/dJM2vyb7

This error happens when elephants falls and gets mortsally wounded with xskills on.. don;t know if or what it effects and its obviously a compatability thing.

also when i harvested the wooly mammoth I got 0 hides and when they fall and become mortally wounded should you be able to "finish" it off... it doesnt seam to take damage at that point/

You're welcome, glad you're enjoying them! If you have a discord we can hash out details there, shoot me a DM and we can talk further bringitonwimps

I have been looking forward to this mod ever since i saw Elephantodae on your todo list! I am so happy you made this! Thank you so much for your hard work!

Hey there;

My wife has made/revived a specialty bag mod and we are currently trying to patch your tons of awesome plants and so on.  I'm wondering if she could give you the storage flags that make each type work if you'd be willing to just add them in to your item types at some point for easier compatibility.  Especially since there seams to be a few items that she can not get to patch  ATM. 

Thanks for these great mods!

Thanks all! As for the ground sloths, probably not for a bit. While they could technically work for the Cosmopolitan or Circumboreal animal packs, there are some other ones I have my eye on, and we'll be doing Eurasian plant packs for a while here before the Americas. 

Yeah the riding system was tricky, could have kept adding things endlessly but I need to get to a few commissions I've received. Right at the moment, I don't plan on adding riding to more animals, as I want to wait a while to see if there are issues with my implementation of riding or conflicts with other mods as more folks add ridable animals using the base systems.

@Tentharchitect Im glad you released this mod like 4 days after telling me you were going to add it and try to make rideable rhinos and other large creatures ahaha!

Oh my gosh amazing mod!

Oh my God! YES!

...megasloths/megatherium when? 😁