Is there a way to change the taxidermy stances in survival?

Tentharchitect It's my opinion that the sprint speed of these animals is too high. I understand the idea behind, but I was hoping for a way to tweak the speed of the animals beyond going into the mod and bringing the values all down manually. I am not a coder or a modder, but I simply ask, Is it possible to add a config that can change the movement speed by percentage?

If not easily feasible then that is okay. I am enjoying trying to get the cold biome animals to spawn in extreme climates. 

Edit: Secondary question. Is it perchance that Moose are just much faster? 

Since you're updating (absolute legend thank you so much for your hard work!) i thought I'd share some of the errors I've noticed in my main log with ya in case it helps for future patches :) It's a lot so I just threw the whole section of log into a pastebin for ya

https://pastebin.com/C50G4ew9

Thank you for updating these😍

So I had 2 mods update this one and better prospecting tried to join my server and crashed..deleted the upated ver of this mod and went back to prev and it worked

Got this error msg from the log

System.Exception: Don't know how to instantiate item of class 'dogtoy' did you forget to register a mapping?

Let me know if you need the rest of the log

I LOVE your mods! Thanks so much for making them! 

Having a weird issue w/this one: I play on VS vers 1.20.4 (for other mods). I have your mods: Bovinae, Caninae, Casuraiidae Plus, and Pantherinae. They all work perfectly fine and are so lovely! When I tried to download this one for vers 1.20.4 however, it caused weird problems where my shields & antlers (even ones from this mod) became replaced w/square antler mounts? Any ideas on what I can do to fix this? Thanks <33

Sorry if I'm slow to reply, I'm new to this website & not very good at forums in general.

so how long should you wait for animals to get pregnate like white tailed deer ive had them for a few days and they all say ready to mate and i have two males with them and they still havent gotten pregnate

THE FAUNA MODS ARE BEING UPDATED OH MY GOD YESSSSSSSSS

Thank god you are back updating the mods! Thank you.

Thank you so much for updating your mods! I've been waiting excitedly for your updates since the new update to the game! Welcome back to modding Tenth!!! I look forward to each and every single one of them eagerly, and can't wait to bring our community server into the new update with your full lineup! Thank you for all of your hard work and all that you do!

FotSA of the stone age

Is there a way to turn off the carcass spawn mechanic?

I have caught a tundra reindeer and tamed it. I have just finished breaking it and can now ride it freely. Is it possible to claim it with a medallion? Also are they incredibly slow?

loving this mod, noticed the moose has pretty big collision, seems to get stuck a lot and cant get past some gates, would love to pen these guys up but dosesnt fit through the two door gate 😭 not sure if thats intentional but it looks like they could fit through. 

I believe the aniamls are broken right now after updating a different mod (since I don't think it's because of an update to this since it hasn't updated since the 7th, unaware of what mod it'd be causing this though.), in my game they're fleeing seemingly infinitely and have a higher detection than they used to, like the moose will run thousands of blocks away from me if they got spooked, and they can detect me from so far away that they can't be snuck up on to be shot with a crossbow. So good luck hunting anything if you aren't one shotting them and if they don't get stuck on something.

are the moose able to breed and tame? also do you think maybe one day you would do slight variations of coat colour or even add an albino or melanistic versions of critters that could randomly pop up? would make breeding or encountering these critters more interesting for sure like a shiny pokemon haha! love your mods hope you update to latest soon :)

For some reason, moose and reindeer are SUPER slow on my server, is there any reason why that might be happening? I'm using Orrukin, which requires Overhaul and JSON Lib, is this a compatibility issue?

Hello, is it possible to breed moose stags (Cervalces scotti), or can a moose stag be mated with a moose (Alces alces) in order to domesticate them and then breed them?

Tentharchitect I fixed the combatoverhaul patch alceini.json and capreolini.json to work with the combatoverhaul fork for 1.22.2. I also fixed the GUI sizes for the hides, etc. If you would like I can send you the files to look over, seems to be working after 6 hours of testing on my server. Cheers!

How long are the Caribou pregnant for? we have been having some curruption issues with animals on our server and i want to make sure they arent being affected by it. The caribous became pregnant first but still havent had their baby even though all of my other animals have including the cows from one of the other stoneage mods

deer autors please update to 1.22 please and thanks!

dear authors! please update mod to 1.22 stable versio. Thank very much

It seam that the tamed moose take a ridiculous amount of fall damge, and the tamed reindeer speed is very low while riding.

@ioye i am also having the same thing in logs, were you able to confirm if it was indeed this mod?

Hi, I had a crash that might be related to your mod, but while going through my logs i found this, I'm not really familiar with VS logs and how they work, so sorry if it's a stupid question, but is this normal ? (log included in the spoiler tab)

awsome mod anywy quick question how to keep ur moose stay idle bcs everytime i put a medal on the head its keep following me.... sry for my bad english

There was some different outcomes based on which version you were using as things have changed four times in the last few months, but the current version should usually flee from the player, with a moderate chance of letting the player get close and giving a warning attack, and a rare chance of entering aggressive mode and chasing down the player snailchimera

There should be duplicates of antlers as there are the base game versions and the mods versions. Unfortunately I can't reuse the antlers for animals with different mod domains and IDs Cerre

I've had this installed for a long time, but after installing the Rhinocerotidae mod my server started giving out the following warning on a long established save:

I'm unsure what to do now, but all antlers added by the mod are the placeholder blocks. Modded deer still spawn normally.

EDIT: It seems the modded antlers are still there, there's also duplicates, and they are missing. No impact on gameplay.

Hi, sorry for the trouble, but are moose supposed to bolt when in proximity to players? Based on the mod description I was expecting behavior more like the vanilla bighorns or wild pigs. If it's intended behavior that's fine! I was just wondering if it might be a bug.

Thanks, fixed LynnMira

Reindeer take a long time to grow due to cold conditions and it is based on in-game hours and does not scale with year length. They'll grow after 700 in game hours have passed, so over 28 in game days SalazarWindriver

This is still on 1.21, but do wild Tundra Reindeer children grow up?  I caught two sleeping several days ago, and they still haven't grown up yet. I am also on 6-day months

Iv noticed that the American Mountain deer (Male) hide is missing the recipe for it's oiled pelt

So there was some stuff that was partially implemented in the code for 1.21 that I used that might have been causing issues, hopefully it is now fixed in 1.22 Icedteaman Vandl Exidors Zirogg

There is not a special saddle for the moose, normal ones will work redcerato

I'm not seeing those now, might have been a weird interaction Katzvielle

I think the bone flute is a little hard coded for elk at the moment, but I didn't get a crash in my last test with the moose. As for the pillion, I left it out as the pillion requires unique coordinates for the second person per item and as a result would need a separate version for male and female moose to not cause issues. This would very quickly become a lot of work across all my mods so I'm leaving it out DarkDapp

Cheese is currently hard coded to the base game version, so you can't progress through the crafting process past making and consuming cottage cheese at this time. I have the other cheeses set up in case that is openned up within the game's code TOWTsi

I'm not able to recreate this, but the latest version has cleaned up the antler code a bit so hopefully fixed this in 1.22 Urist_Ozsitmafol

No worries, sometimes I set it up for cross breeding within the same genus MANEL190

Yeah the domestication seems to not work properly for modded entities, but taming should work for moose Kakapo

0 gen so long as you find a wild baby, 1st gen otherwise. Look up elk taming as it functions the same way LynnMira

At what generation can you start taming the moose/reindeer/giant deer for riding and how do you tame them?

I noticed that moose still get spooked and run away even when reaching gen 10. Havent tried other ones, but it would be cool to be able to make them docile

Hello! I've noticed that the Male raindeer are eating from the trough but the females are not. Could this be a bug? Let me know thanks!

idk if its a glitch but i just discovered (accidentally) that whitetail deer's can breed with mule deer's

edit: So i had a lil incident that, it was so snowy that i couldnt see that i had a male whitetail deer inside the enclosure. My bad tenthar 😭

Game crashes seemingly due to antler growth on version 1.21.6, here is someone having the same issue as me on the tracker pinpointed to this mod: https://github.com/anegostudios/VintageStory-Issues/issues/6755

Mine was also solved by uninstalling this mod and nothing else.

I would be happy to provide any info about my game if it helps. I love your mods and really hope to reinstall this one :)

First of all, I love the different animals in this! Thank you for this =)

I have one issue: I can't use a linen to get moose cottage cheese out of the barrel. Does it need something special? =/

Hey all, quick question. I am having 2 issues with this mod. 1st, whenever I use the bone flute for my tamed moose, my game kicks me to the home screen. 2nd, I can't attach the pillion cushion to the saddled moose and was curious if there was a known fix for this. Thank you!

Is there a known bug of deer just not touching their food at all? My female moose says Ready to Mate but she won't eat at all, neither will the male. Someone is slipping them ozempic. :(

Edit: It appears after multiple server restarts and using the Animal Cages mod to pick up and place the animals several times its fixed?

i got some warnings

is there a special saddle for the moose?

I'm having the same issue with a pair of Red Brocket deer, the female says "ready to mate" but no matter how much food I give them they don't breed.

Edit: They're the ones from the mod not the vanilla ones that you can't domesticate.

Edit again: I despawned both of them, respawned a male and female from the creative mode menu, fed them both and it worked? Not sure what was going on there.

Im not sure if Wonderboy will respond but his message is about my issue, so i will respond instead, yes im having the issue still.
This is the setup im using, the deer have not eaten or bred in several real life days.

They need to be within 10 meters of each other and sometimes take a day or so for the mating to activate, still having an issue? CutestWonderBoy

Glad you got it working, though just to say it for others chital deer aren't covered by this mod since they are in the other family of deer, so those are always base game Icedteaman

We have a pair of mule deer, both have eaten 9 portions but aren't breeding (from what I could tell of the config file, 9 should be enough) Here's a screenshot of the female

I now know my issue, i had non modded deer and for some reason modded deer wouldnt spawn

I've gotten some pudu and chital deer but they aren't domesticating, they're eating and it says i own them but they arent breeding at all

Are chital deer milkable? I've been playing the mod and barely ever find any non vanilla variants, especially not more than one at a time and i really want to make deer cheese.

I'll add it to the bug list Eupaf17Ternine

Thanks ToddlyToad420! Seems that your question has been answered, glad you're enjoying the mods

Mortally wounded tamed moose can't be healed with any healing items (they are used on player instead), same with reindeer

ToddlyToad420 Animal cages mod works

do your animal packs work with the animal cages mod? love your stuff btw, downloaded almost every pack and having ZERO issues so far!!

Gotcha, yeah no plans for mod compatibility from my end at the moment. I still have a hundred plus hours of maintenance to do and would like to get to making more fun content QuickdrawMcGraw

@Tentharchitect Jaunt also has things like stamina and the ablity to add a gait speed indicator:

It also may allow for integration with other saddles and bridles such as from the track and equipment mod: https://mods.vintagestory.at/tackandequipment

I believe it could also allow for the configuration of speeds, though I am less confident on that.

Isn't jaunt base game now? I was able to implement toggling between gaits QuickdrawMcGraw

Taming works the same as with the base game elk, feed enough portions to the baby before they'd normally grow up and the mature instantly into a semi-tamed version. This entity can become a tamed version if saddle broken Neocrife

Love that the moose can be can be tamed and ridden, any chance for jaunt integration? There is a mod that already does this for elk: https://mods.vintagestory.at/elkjaunt which might make it easier to code.

Hi guys, never tried to tame animals in this game but I found moose from FOSA mod was tamable as explain in the tabulation. But I can't try to tame it with the saddle. How do we do ? Do I need to make babies first ? Can't we tame wild adult ?  Thanks

Figured out the issue, should be fixed in the next update, Seransei and Sekenneri

Had some medical stuff pop up that pushed by my modding time a week but it will hopefully be out within the week

Hey, I noticed that when clicking the Moose carcass in the handbook the game crashes with a NullReferenceException. It happens with some other carcasses too, but the problem is prob the same

Running on 64 bit Windows 10.0.26100.0 with 32536 MB RAM
Game Version: v1.21.5 (Stable)
08/11/2025 14:27:18: Critical error occurred in the following mod: extrainfo@1.10.1
Loaded Mods: chiseltools@1.15.3, capreolinae@2.0.1, overhaullib@1.10.2, primitivesurvival@3.9.5, prospecttogether@2.1.0, silentpause@1.0.2, game@1.21.5, attributerenderinglibrary@2.3.0, backpackpackplusexpanded@1.2.5, betterfirepit@1.1.6, betterruins@0.5.0, bettertraders@0.1.0, carryon@1.10.7, combatoverhaul@0.9.4, commonlib@2.8.0, extrainfo@1.10.1, farseer@1.3.2, foodshelves@2.3.0, genelib@2.1.2, jaunt@2.1.1, knapster@3.0.0, maltiezcrossbows@1.5.2, maltiezfirearms@1.3.5, rivers@4.7.2, creative@1.21.5, survival@1.21.5, armory@1.2.1, draconis@1.1.2, equus@1.2.0, playercorpse@1.12.0, quiversandsheaths@0.4.1, stonequarry@3.4.3
Involved Harmony IDs: extrainfo
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at ExtraInfo.HandbookExtensions.AddEntityHealthAndDamageInfo(List`1 list, ItemSlot inSlot, ICoreClientAPI capi) in C:\Users\dana_\Source\Repos\ExtraInfo\ExtraInfo\src\Utility\HandbookExtensions.cs:line 201
   at ExtraInfo.GetHandbookInfoPatch.Postfix(RichTextComponentBase[]& __result, ItemSlot inSlot, ICoreClientAPI capi, ActionConsumable`1 openDetailPageFor) in C:\Users\dana_\Source\Repos\ExtraInfo\ExtraInfo\src\HarmonyPatches\GetHandbookInfoPatch.cs:line 12
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.CollectibleBehaviorHandbookTextAndExtraInfo.GetHandbookInfo_Patch1(CollectibleBehaviorHandbookTextAndExtraInfo this, ItemSlot inSlot, ICoreClientAPI capi, ItemStack[] allStacks, ActionConsumable`1 openDetailPageFor)
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.GuiHandbookItemStackPage.GetPageText(ICoreClientAPI capi, ItemStack[] allStacks, ActionConsumable`1 openDetailPageFor) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\Gui\GuiHandbookItemStackPage.cs:line 119
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.GuiHandbookItemStackPage.ComposePage(GuiComposer detailViewGui, ElementBounds textBounds, ItemStack[] allstacks, ActionConsumable`1 openDetailPageFor) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\Gui\GuiHandbookItemStackPage.cs:line 113
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.ModSystemSurvivalHandbook.onComposePage(GuiHandbookPage page, GuiComposer detailViewGui, ElementBounds textBounds, ActionConsumable`1 openDetailPageFor) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\SurvivalHandbook.cs:line 128
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.GuiDialogHandbook.initDetailGui() in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\Gui\GuiDialogHandbook.cs:line 258
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.GuiDialogHandbook.onLeftClickListElement(Int32 index) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\Gui\GuiDialogHandbook.cs:line 348
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.GuiElementFlatList.OnMouseUpOnElement(ICoreClientAPI api, MouseEvent args) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\Gui\GuiElementFlatList.cs:line 95
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.GuiElementFlatList.OnMouseUp(ICoreClientAPI api, MouseEvent args) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\Gui\GuiElementFlatList.cs:line 174
   at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiComposer.OnMouseUp(MouseEvent mouse) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\GuiComposer.cs:line 446
   at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiDialog.OnMouseUp(MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Dialog\GuiDialog.cs:line 593
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.GuiManager.OnMouseUp(MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\GuiManager.cs:line 423
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.UpdateMouseButtonState(EnumMouseButton button, Boolean down) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 1996
   at Vintagestory.Client.SystemHotkeys.OnPrimaryMouseButton(KeyCombination mb) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\Hotkeys.cs:line 52
   at Vintagestory.Client.HotkeyManager.TriggerHotKey(KeyEvent keyEventargs, IWorldAccessor world, IPlayer player, Boolean allowCharacterControls, Boolean isGlobal, Boolean fallBack, Boolean keyup) in VintagestoryLib\Client\HotkeyManager.cs:line 424
   at Vintagestory.Client.HotkeyManager.OnMouseButton(ClientMain game, EnumMouseButton button, Int32 modifiers, Boolean buttonDown) in VintagestoryLib\Client\HotkeyManager.cs:line 574
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.OnMouseUpRaw(MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 2026
   at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.OnMouseUp(MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 359
   at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnMouseUp(MouseEvent e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 921
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.Mouse_ButtonUp(MouseButtonEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\Input.cs:line 213
   at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.NativeWindow.MouseButtonCallback(Window* window, MouseButton button, InputAction action, KeyModifiers mods)
--- End of stack trace from previous location ---
   at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.NativeWindow.RethrowCallbackExceptionsIfNeeded()
   at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 338
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 133
   at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 95

This is probably the same crash MushroomDot was having, but I have the traceback from it if it's helpful to you.

              21:49:07  [Info] Player Sekenneri got removed. Reason: Threw an exception at the server
            
          
            
              21:49:07  [Error] Exception: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
            
          
            
                 at Vintagestory.API.Common.Block.IsReplacableBy(Block block) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Collectible\Block\Block.cs:line 1846
            
          
            
                 at Vintagestory.GameContent.EntityBehaviorDeadDecay.DecayNow() in VSEssentials\Entity\Behavior\BehaviorDecay.cs:line 61
            
          
            
                 at 
Vintagestory.GameContent.EntityBehaviorHarvestable.Inv_OnInventoryClosed(IPlayer
 player) in VSEssentials\Entity\Behavior\BehaviorHarvestable.cs:line 306
            
          
            
                 at Vintagestory.API.Common.InventoryBase.Close(IPlayer player) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Inventory\InventoryBase.cs:line 871
            
          
            
                 at 
Vintagestory.Server.ServerSystemInventory.HandleInvOpenClose(Packet_Client
 packet, ConnectedClient client) in 
VintagestoryLib\Server\Systems\Inventory.cs:line 39
            
          
            
                 at 
Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.HandleClientPacket_mainthread(ReceivedClientPacket
 cpk) in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMainNetworking.cs:line 280
            
          
            
                 at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.ProcessMain() in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMain.cs:line 934

Figured out the issue, should be fixed in the next update MushroomDot

Not natively, but there is a community that patches the mods Comradesbrother

Does this work with the Animal cages Mod?

Unsure if its related to this mod or Cervinae or perhaps actually Butchering mod. But I have an issue. Butchering em causes a quick error message with an alt tab saying I crashed, it doesnt crash the game but just kicks me from the game with just a disconnect message in server logs. Nothing gamebreaking but annoying. I apologize in advance if its not related to this mod. Moose cause this issue, all other FotSA mods work perfectly.

EDIT: Its butchering, I apologize. It just had an update. Awesome mods btw! Cant play without em!

Fixed, the babies were still using the old pelts mj_outlaw

mate, I got weird texture on the latest 

https://postimg.cc/F1G21hqj

thanks for the heads up and thanks again for all those mods i just can't play whithout them great work 

I'm pretty sure some other folks have reported that and it is on the Butcher mod author's radar Skiff1

hello my friends an i keep gettind disconnected as soon as we butcher a moose from the mods here is the crash report hopefully it helps 

28.10.2025 20:36:28 [Server Warning] Exception at client 3. Disconnecting client.
28.10.2025 20:36:28 [Server Notification] Client 3 disconnected: An action you (or your client) did caused an unhandled exception
28.10.2025 20:36:28 [Server Notification] UDP: client disconnected Nivmizz7
28.10.2025 20:36:28 [Server Event] Player Nivmizz7 got removed. Reason: Threw an exception at the server
28.10.2025 20:36:28 [Server Error] Exception: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.BlockBehaviorFiniteSpreadingLiquid.IsReplacableBy(Block byBlock, EnumHandling& handled) in VSSurvivalMod\BlockBehavior\BehaviorFiniteSpreadingLiquid.cs:line 642
   at Vintagestory.API.Common.Block.IsReplacableBy(Block block) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Collectible\Block\Block.cs:line 1828
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.EntityBehaviorDeadDecay.DecayNow() in VSEssentials\Entity\Behavior\BehaviorDecay.cs:line 85
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.EntityBehaviorHarvestable.Inv_OnInventoryClosed(IPlayer player) in VSEssentials\Entity\Behavior\BehaviorHarvestable.cs:line 306
   at Vintagestory.API.Common.InventoryBase.Close(IPlayer player) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Inventory\InventoryBase.cs:line 871
   at Vintagestory.Server.ServerSystemInventory.HandleInvOpenClose(Packet_Client packet, ConnectedClient client) in VintagestoryLib\Server\Systems\Inventory.cs:line 39
   at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.HandleClientPacket_mainthread(ReceivedClientPacket cpk) in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMainNetworking.cs:line 280
   at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.ProcessMain() in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMain.cs:line 934

I wanted to get these guys and the big cats all polished so I can start moving forward on updating the rest. I really don't want to implement something buggy and make that mistake across all 18 creature mods

Tentharchitect, WOW, thank you so much. Such a fast update!!! And sorry for the lack of description, reason was the earlier already mentioned it. You are amazing!

Should be fixed now MushroomDot and Sekenneri

errors

Getting frequent initilization failures on capreolinae entities:

Thanks all! Glad you're enjoying it and have fun encountering, riding, milking and hunting deer!

I don't test older versions, but in theory they might be compatible if nothing applicable to this mod has changed WormGang

No plans to add Megaloceros to this mod, as it is not a Capreolinae deer. In case you are not aware, Megaloceros was commissioned last winter as a ridable animal, and is currently the only animal in the FotSA: Cervinae mod SnowTitan

Are there any plans to add the Irish Elk (Megaloceros) to this mod, they were alive during the stone age and were a bit bigger than a modern day moose, with a much more deer shaped body. I would love to see them as either a ridable mount, or just something very challenging to hunt. No worries if it can't happen

Legit just cheered when I saw the available update. Thanks for all your hard work!

this is my favorite pack out of all the FotSA <3 (2. elephantide, 3. penguines lol) but i also use an antler and horns cosmetic so i am very happy you could update everything here, really really great work!

Tentharchitect, your work is always so impressive!

stupid question but does the 1.21.5 version work okay on older versions?(like 1.21.1) or is it JUST for that specific version of the game? i assume it doesn't but cant hurt to ask lol

That you can! 

we can ride moose's now >:D

Yeah I'd tried to be optimal with the mod by reusing base game textures but they moved the texture files and changed some other things with the deer. So instead of redoing part of it to temporarily fix it and then redoing it again, I decided to do my art rework now since it has been on my backlog list for 20 months. I'm about 90% done now Anotzibartschad

Hey friend, I'm having an issue where the textures from some of the animals are missing. 

I'm about 100 hours into the update, have maybe 40-60 more hours to go. Like EnsouldedSteel said, you can follow the progress on my kofi page or on the FotSA discord thread Kamulton

@Kamulton Check out the kofi, looks like its in the works

What will happen with this mod? Will there be an update?

You're welcome, thanks for saying so Yelb! Today is the first day of my off season so hopefully progress can soon be made on the Capreolinae rework

Hi, i was counting the miiatures to check if anything was missing from my world, and i found that was the one !

Thanks for your mods, they are all awesome.

Thanks for saying so isaydefy! Happy to bring them to the Vintage Story community

Thank you on all your hard work! These mods are beautiful and improve my enjoyment of the game greatly, I just love seeing all the animals as I wander about. 

A few weeks minimum, my summer job is over tomorrow so that should speed up my modding but I'll need to re-do a ton of art assets in this mod VrillMaxxer

Ay mon, any word of an ETA for this woderful piece of art ? Its prolly my most most anticipated one out of de bunch!

Sounds about right, 1.21 broke a lot of ways this mod functioned and I haven't updated it yet ArsStels

I launch my world (1.21.0) on a local dedicated server and see this message in the logs:

In the game, they're also really textless. I met one, but it disappeared while I was writing this comment.

I really appreciate that comment cowdragons Love all the excitement about my mods but the excitement has been a little overwhelming XD

thank you so much for your work on these amazing mods! and for your patience with dealing with some less than patient fellow commenters :T

Currently the question marks don't show up, the game just freezes ;) When will version 1.21.0 be released for all animals ? ? ;) Tentharchitect

Not at this time Swerve

And thank you for saying so! FeeDaFox

Can you saddle the larger species when fully domesticated?

While I do wish for things to be updated soon, I am Thankful that Tentharchitect has made these mods and is willing to work on it when they can. So Thank you for all the hard work and all the time you have put into these mods

Please don't upload a log. I'm aware that they changed some things with both riding and the base game file formatting, which broke this mod, the other deer mod and the elephants. I'm still on my 80 hour work week schedule, and bug fixing in between.
The rest should be fine to use in 1.21 Chardok

I'm getting a bunch of errors and warnings from this mod since the newest update, it all looks like it can't find the required shape for the entities, sorry if that makes no sense. is there someay i can easily upload my log file for you?

update: I disabled this one and was getting the same issues with another one of your animal mods.

You reduce the group size, as this can exceed the spawn limit maxsteele

Though I intend to remove white tailed deer herds due to folks thinking they are a bug and reporting it regularly

Love this mod!  However, I've noticed the "White Tailed Deer" have a spawn amount of 30-40 for females and babies.  This is quite excessive and has made finding meat trivial in my game.

I looked in the odocoileini.json file, and the only spawning entry I was able to find is:

Amazing mod, thank you very much!

Ok, several mods in the FotSA series are mising closing braces at the end of the itemtypes\animals.json file, resulting in cryptic parsing errors. I've confirmed that adding the braces fixes the issue, and would provide a pull request, but I'm not seeing your packages on github

Failed to parse FotSA-Capreolinae-v1.2.9.zip_b74e67134c0b\assets\capreolinae\itemtypes\animals.json got --> 445:42
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445 | "rotation": { "x": -8, "y": -63, "z": -7 }
| ^---
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= expected boolean, null, or string

Came back to say: yeah, you're probably right, lol. My bad!

I'll add that to the bug list, though that sounds to be normal gameplay for an icy experience. This mod series only adds a few animals to the icy climate range, so if none spawn right away it might be hours before they fill in the missing slots Rui333

Hi! A couple things with this mod.

1. Caribou are unable to attack the player. When they aggro they will press up against the player but cannot deal damage.

2. I have a few of these mods installed, I can get the exact ones if needed, and I have noticed something. When playing Icy on my fiance's game (which does not have any FotSA mods inistalled), there are quite a few animals around. However when I play on my single game with the FotSA mods enabled, I can go as long as five minutes irl without seeing one animal and constantly running which is a bit of an issue in an Icy game.

I do have some other mods installed that add entities (horses, primitive survival), but my fiance has those added too to his game.

Baby odocoileini and capreolini deer have a 30% chance of being captured, and a 5% chance of destroying the baskets Azurekitsune

which of these deer are catchable with a basket trap?

Some of the deer of this mod were indeed added to the base game. Not all the features and species of this mod were incorporated however, so this mod still has use, which is why I'm continuing to maintain it merryclefairy

Tentharchitect

Please add compatibility with Butchering mod. We love hunt on this creatures and cook them! Yammy!

well, i have no knowledge of code in any way ^^ 

just thought this mod is the only one i use that has any form of carcass. might have been an answer but no, back to zero, still dont know what it is.

much thanks for the explanation ^^ funny thing is, it does not only act like an entitiy but actually does take over, i found a 3rd one around my base xD 

So the carcass system in these mods isn't coded or anything like that, I just manually add new entities that don't have any pathfinding ai and use a carcass as the shape file. There's no way that could alter other mods, it's something they'd have to add themselves. 

Though now I'm getting the humorous image of a broken entity mod turning all the other mods into more of it's own type XD Yvanortra

first: gread mod(s)! i love it.

sadly i have a problem:

i found a carcass or two around my base, but the animals they belong to are from another mod (Legacy of the phaneozoic series)

those mods dont have the carcass system (i think, mod page doesnt say they have) so i figured the mods might interfere with each other?

...and i cant remove the carcass. i can kill the carcass and the "dead carcass" is not removeable.

Okay thx that nice to see, that helped me a lot because I traped some mom and a LOT of babies just run into the trap from FAR away lol 

Baby deer try to follow their mom. Large herds of white-tailed deer will be made up of moms and babies, and sometimes RNG makes the ratio such that the herd is almost all babies

Hi, do the babies dears are attracked by their mom or dad or both ? Because I came across a lot and the babies followed them from faaaarrr lol, I captured 15 of them ! 

You can adjust the range by editing the json files if that is the only barrier to you using this mod! Kayouh

It can't only be me but I don't see anyone mentionning it. The mod seems cool and very well made, but the breathing of the deer is driving me up a wall. I can hear them as if they were breathing down my neck even if they are 50+ blocks away. Couldn't play with this honestly

https://discord.gg/dkzwBurPnW
Here you go TigerLillian

Oh nice, I didn't know there was a discord! Where can I find the invite link? Here's my google doc if anyone needs it, but the discord will be a better place to go FotSA Capreolinae Animal Cages Compat - Google Docs

thats great! i was curious which pack to comment on

Not to this pack, I'll be adding the red deer to the Cervinae pack whenever I finish that pack's roster Diurach

is it possible that red deer (cervus elaphus) can be added to this mod? Tentharchitect

That's fine with me TigerLillian are you aware of the discord group that has something similar?
The moose have a long breeding cool down, they might not be done with that yet

Hi! I made a google docs with code for compatibility with the Animal cages mod. As well as a guide to add in any entity that I didn't. Would you mind if I posted a comment with the link for others to see? Completely okay if not.

The moose doesn't seem interested in the sunflower cereal I put in the trough. As far as I know, the "Art of Growing" mod I have installed just renames sunflower grain to sunflower cereal but it should be the same item (game:grain-sunflower). The moose walk up to the trough, act like they're eating, but the portion never goes down. Very strange!

I'm a huge fan of all these prehistoric animal mods, I really love how it adds to the prehistoric & neolithic vibes of the early game, even the dinosaurs lol.

I'd like to second someone else's suggestion about a camel pack. I'm a huge fan of camels and would love to see them, especially with the quality you put into these animal packs.

Looks like something else is up, will trouble shoot it and have it out in the next update Rakshasa

Tentharchitect Ive increased the size of the width and height to 16384 and still nothing has changed. I tried disabling every mod that would effect animals and animal items in a singleplayer test and nothing has worked which is weird.

I'm not sure what you mean BlueSteel, are they floating in air?

The atlas settings depend on your mod list, but can be alterred in multiples of 2. I'd recommend doubling the width or height Rakshasa

Something happened to Moose getting Errors to do woth adults and babies floating  in latest version of vs .. before this update of this mod  everything seemed to work fine

Hey Tentharchitect, sorry to get back to you so late. I did disable butchering, but nothing seemed to change. The item DOES exist when placed, it's just invisible. What block atlas settings do you suggest using? I already had to change it once to 8192x8192 for some visiblitiy issues pertaining to butchering, but im not exactly sure what im doing here. I only changed it to these settings because of a comment recommendation.

Thanks, and thanks for pointing that out, looks like the capreoline baby size multiplier adjustments I made didn't make it into the updated. Will get those updated soon LordReems

Could the sizes of these models be revised in a future update? They're so tiny! The baby roe deer look like they could fit in the palm of my hand. Great mod regardless!

Do they still exist and are invisible or delete themselves? It could be that your texture array has exceeded the x4 limit you set and things beyond that are disappearing, especially if it is just Odocoileini deer as they still use the block atlas, while I've updated the roe deer and the moose to use the item atlas instead. The other theory I have is that butchery or another mod adds a rot timer

Tentharchitect It just seems to be all the time anytime it's placed down on the ground. That's all Ive noticed with it. It's also not all the models it seems? Could it have to do with a texture array thing that I had to increase earlier? Im also running mods like butchering if that adds any importance.

Strange, any consistency with it? Time until it happens, when not loaded, stuff like that? Rakshasa

I love these mods so far, but im having issues with some of the models disappearing? Specifically hide models when placed on the ground?

Thanks for saying so!

Megaloceros is in my time range, and I actually made a model back before I started publishing the FotSA mods. It needs an overhaul now that I've found my style, but it'll be making a come back whenever I make the Cervidae pack, along with a couple other recently extinct large deer. Xyconis

I'm a huge fan of your mods, they're incredibly high quality and I quite literally refuse to play without your whole suite! 
That being said I was curious if you had plans to add the megaloceros? I'd love to run into an irish elk in the wilds but I don't know if they are in the age range you're going for in your mods.

Either way, huge fan, awesome work!

This mod does not replace all deer in game, only members of Capreolinae. The elk, chital deer and fallow deer still spawn and this mod shouldn't impace elk taming as a result MRGOOSE

when elk taming gets added. i dont think it would work because the mod replaces all deer in the game

Yup that was me, thanks! 

They did add my deer to the game TheChickenWizard
Thank you kindly! It was a big highlight of my year, and I'm intending to update this mod to the base game's art style so folks can get those missing species as well. 

Also, assuming you're the same person who posted on reddit, beautiful work on the unicorn!

Thanks for puzzling that out Desthion
Much appreciated!

Greetings, out of the loop but i've gotta ask: did the devs make your mod official and add it to the game? can help but notice how many of the recently added deer are near identical to those in your mod. If so then congrats! your critters absolutley deserve to be in the base game, would love it if they finshed up adding mule deer and the other missing species too. 

Hi, I managed to fix the issues with javelins. The problem was in the patch jsons. First they were pointing to the wrong files "caninae:entities/land/alceini" instead of "capreolinae:entities/land/alceini". Secondly in some cases there were key errors in the arm and leg elements with "L lower arm" and "L lower arm" being in both of those elements which seemed to be causing issues, by changing them to "L front lower arm" in the arm element and "L back lower arm" in the leg element. After making these changes when i hit a moose for example with a projectile like a javelin it now properly falls to the ground to be picked back up instead of just disappearing.

I'd recommend checking in with Maltiez about that, I don't know all too much about how CO works, just what Maltiez showed me about the patching format

Hi, there seems to be an issue with this mod when combat overhaul is installed. For some reason if you hit any of these deer with a projectile like a javelin the projectile will all ways disappear after hitting. It only seems to happen with the deer, if i try it for example on the wooly rhino the projectile drops to the ground after hitting like its supposed to do.

The elk wasn't touched by this mod so should still be the same as basegame

do the ridable elk in the latest patch still spawn and function normally?

Potentially, but not soon. I want to try making a new animal clade with riding first before adding it to this one, so I can get an idea of how much goes into it. It will require making new entities, but those can likely share the same model, texture and most of the existing behavior

Now that mounts are a thing, are you going to update your mods to allow mounting the larger animals of each mod? it is understandable if you don't, the elk mount seems to behave very differently from other animals, so maybe it is not the same kind of entity, I would assume.

Thanks for patching with Wool and More mod!

Patiently awaiting the day we are able to tame and ride megaloceros. Love this collection of mods.

Same thing than for Pantherinae, for impatient users. ;)

Voici la traduction Fr du mod (v1.1.6) pour celles et ceux qui ne peuvent pas attendre la prochaine maj ;)
fr.json

I don't actually know about the milking, I just gave them the same milkable attribute as the base game goats and sheep but haven't tested it extensively. 
Deer don't currently drop vanilla antler items, as in order for it to work I need to do an art overhaul but it seems that the base game deer are also getting that for 1.20 and I don't want to waste time doing it twice

When milking, how can you tell if you're stressing the animal out too much? I'm not getting that little text indicator to tell me when I'm pushing them too much anymore (trying to milk White-tail Deer)

The FotSA series should work with all the world gen mods I've looked through, unless that specific one messes with entity spawning in a way I'm not aware of.
Recently I lowered the spawn chance such that it usually takes an hour or so for a given animal to spawn into the world, to accomodate for how many entities have been added

Howdy, appretiate the mod as well, had a question as im new to moding the game, would the "Fauna of the Stone Age" mods be compatatable with Conquest Reforged Landform Overhaul? I see hat inthe description it says they spawn on runtime and not the world generation, so maybe they are just rare?

I love your mods so very much! They've turned vintage story into the perfect game for me, thank you for creating these little critters and sharing them with the rest of us <3

You're welcome Lacero!
And it will stop the base game moose from spawning but not delete existing ones, in their place the moose from this mod will spawn Failsmore

Will installing this mod override stats on the moose or add new moose variant? Base game moose are pathetic.

thanks for the fix :)

another moose typo, the male babies grow up into female adults

in "grow"
"adultEntityCodes": [ "capreolinae:cervidae-alceini-adult-female-{type}", "capreolinae:cervidae-alceini-adult-female-{type}" ]

1-So the models in this are currently the ones I made (except the moose) and don't yet use the antler system (except the moose) I'll be going through and updating the art style of the deer that didn't make it into the base game so they all match, though based on recent devlogs it looks like the art style is in flux so I'm going to wait a bit longer.
2- That's up the developers. They bought the license to use the assets of this mod. They didn't use all of the species in it, and the only ones I may add down the line are the extinct members (and the newly discovered puda deer species) and I doubt they'll add extinct deer
3- That's up to the developers. I haven't been approached about any of the others and my understanding is that the deer took long enough to incorporate that it might not be worth it to buy from modders in the future. That said, I'm trying my best to emulate their art style and design standards so future packs could be integrated more smoothly into the game.
4- While I had thought it would be cool, they certainly didn't get the idea from me. I intend to add the ability to ride the animals large enough to support a human in my mods going forwards though.

Glad you're enjoying them!

I would like to ask some questions

1- what exactly are the differences between the animals added by this mod and the ones added by the vanilla (since the vanilla ones are based on yours)

2- will moving forward the vanilla deer updates have the same updates as this mod? (if for exemple you add another deer will vanilla VS also add it, or something?)

3- will more mods of FotSA be added into vanilla VS in the future? (I saw the news posts showing the new wolf models and I got confused if they were going to use all your mods in the future or just some I dunno how the deal was)

4- I also saw in the news post a new feature of riding some of the deers, will this also be used by the mod/was it part of this mods idea or something?

thnx love the mods

Thank you kindly for pointing that out!

You have a typo in drops for Mooses (alceini), so there are no pelts drops now:

"code": "capreolinae:pelt-alecini-{gender}-{type}",

Butchery does support vanilla deer at least, but not all of them. Apparently its a lot of work to make each animal supported, work that balloons with variants and different ages involved too

It does not, I don't think I'll look into much compatibility until after I finish all my animal and plant mods

Does this support the butchery mod?

Yep, they've been removed from the mod since I'll need to patch the base game antler item for the antler system to work. For now, only the modded moose has them but that'll change as I rework the art assets.
Also Perdous, I wasn't able to recreate that bug except when you first load in animals sometimes are missing their animations. This seems to be a base game bug however as base game animals also experience this with or without mods.

Hey man, did you remove antlers?

Ah thanks Perdous! I switched to the base game moose model, they probably used a different animation name for those and I missed that

First of, great mod! Makes the forest feel a lot more alive. I have encountered some bugs right now. Apparently mooses lack animations in my game. They missed the walking and dying animation. Hope that can help you :)

And the 1.19 refactor is here! Please let me know if you encounter any bugs, a lot of things changed and while I tested quite a bit some niche errors might have been missed

Yep, they changed how the diets worked in 1.19 so you'll get this error until I refactor the mod for 1.19

7.4.2024 09:43:44 [Server Warning] Creature capreolinae:cervidae-baby-capreolini-capreolus-pygargus has SeekFoodAndEat task but no Diet specified
7.4.2024 09:43:45 [Server Warning] Creature capreolinae:cervidae-baby-capreolini-capreolus-pygargus has SeekFoodAndEat task but no Diet specified
7.4.2024 09:43:45 [Server Warning] Creature capreolinae:cervidae-baby-capreolini-capreolus-pygargus has SeekFoodAndEat task but no Diet specified
7.4.2024 09:43:45 [Server Warning] Creature capreolinae:cervidae-male-capreolini-capreolus-pygargus has SeekFoodAndEat task but no Diet specified
7.4.2024 09:43:45 [Server Warning] Creature capreolinae:cervidae-baby-capreolini-capreolus-pygargus has SeekFoodAndEat task but no Diet specified
7.4.2024 09:43:45 [Server Warning] Creature capreolinae:cervidae-female-odocoileini-pudu-puda has SeekFoodAndEat task but no Diet specified
7.4.2024 09:43:45 [Server Warning] Creature capreolinae:cervidae-baby-odocoileini-pudu-puda has SeekFoodAndEat task but no Diet specified
7.4.2024 09:43:45 [Server Warning] Creature capreolinae:cervidae-male-odocoileini-pudu-puda has SeekFoodAndEat task but no Diet specified
7.4.2024 09:43:45 [Server Warning] Creature capreolinae:cervidae-male-odocoileini-pudu-puda has SeekFoodAndEat task but no Diet specified

Tentharchitect

Oooo! I am excited for the marsupals! I LOVE kanagroos!

Thanks tRead! I'm wrapping up another Central Australian themed animal pack and the East Asiatic Floral Zone, and then I'll be fully focusing on the 1.19 version of this mod. Still haven't solved all the issues but I'll figure something out

looking forward to a 1.19 version of this!  but happy to see your other projects in the meantime. <3

The mod still works, last test I've heard of was for 1.19.3
I'd like to update it to use the new 1.19 features and make them compatible with new food system, but there are a few conundrums holding me back until I've solved them so I've been working on other stuff in the mean time.

is there plans to update for 1.19? or will this still work?

That's fair enough, Tenth. Got any suggestions on how I could perhaps Chisel in a shield mount? Do they mount on any surface or only strictly block faces? Like, would it mount on a chiseled down block that's like 1/8th the thickness of a regular block?

Probably not, as getting a system that works with all the animal head sizes, wood types and adjusting the placement would be a couple weeks of my modding time I'd rather not do. That said, you can chisel a mount behind it with clever block placements, and if I find an efficient way of doing it I still might.

Heya Tenth, if you do update this mod, do you think you could add mounts for the taxidermied heads? Like an actual back to it rather than a bare head like currently. I'd love to be able to mount a deer head on a shield mount kinda like what we now have in vanilla.Something similar to how they do it in hunting games.

It's something I've considered doing more and more, though I wouldn't be coding in a new riding mechanic

Tentharchitect

Please do a Camelidae mod such as ...
- Wild Bactrian Camel
- Bactrian Camel (Rideable)
- Domedary Camel (Ridable)
- Camelops (Extinct)
- Guanaco - Breeds into -> Llama
- Vicuña - Breeds into -> Alpaca
- Paleolama (Extinct)
Thanks in advance!

Oh absolutely. All of those and more are animals I'd like to bring to Vintage Story!
Thank you as well!

Tentharchitect
Have you considered making ice age megafauna such as mammoths, wooly rhinos, ground sloths, etc?
Thanks in advance and keep up the great work on these animal mods!

Not all of the features and animals of this mod were implemented when the devs bought it, once I'm finished updating the big cats mod I'll move on to updating this mod for 1.19 so it adds the missing deer and integrates the missing pelts, taxidermy and head mounts for the base game ones. I don't believe the base game deer are domesticatable at the moment but I haven't poked around their files yet.

As of 1.19 are all the features of this mod already in the base game? So I dont need this mod anymore? Also are all of the species tameable or only the deers? (that is can the moose also be domesticated) and how many gens do I need to domesticate them?

That it is! 

this already in-build in version 1.19 gratsn tyron alr include deers in their recent version

That's a bug I've had a couple reports on but haven't been able to replicate PlaguedMongoose. I'll check over it again soon and see if I can fix the cause for 1.19

Does anyone know what the various deer types eat so I can tame and domesticate them? I got some mule deer fawns but so far they haven't eaten anything I have provided.

Edit: None of the deer are eating anything. I found the text about what they should eat further down in the comments but doing some testing with only these fauna of the stone age mods and only the domestic dog will eat. Nothing else will eat nor breed.

Fine. I'm a big fan of high quality mods. This prevents me from using most mods, even the ones that are very popular. But your modifications are of unsurpassed quality, and they are the only ones that contain something that diversifies the fauna. I wish you good luck, strength and success in your endeavors.

Thank you! And of course, Tyron had approached me months back about it. I have an educated guess as to why the developers decided not to add the other animals.
I'm not currently working on the Caprinae mod, been taking a short break from it while waiting to see what relevant features are implemented in 1.19 so I don't have to redo work. You can however see my animal models on my kofi, no donation required.

Congratulations on having this mod integrated into the original game.
Have the developers contacted you about this? Do you have any idea why the developers decided not to add animals from your other mods to the game?
Are you currently working on the Caprinae mod and it's not ready yet? Or is it available somewhere only to donaters?

Thanks, it's exciting having it come together! 

And to post it here, I'll be refactoring this mod soonish to adapt to the deer in the base game, but might wait a bit to see how the antlers will be implemented.

Hi Tentharchitect

Saw on the recent news update about 1.19 that they are working your models in with the base game! That's super awesome! Grats on getting this mod into the base game! :D

That's high praise! Your mod was part of my inspiration for making these, I'm excited to see you update it 😊

thank you for your absolutely wonderful wildlife mods. when i eventually end up updating my mod I will be removing my deer and instead patch recipies for yours

Yeah this has been something I've struggled with as well. All the deer are sized to their average or their largest known size depending on what info I could find on them. The Seraph is massive, at 2 meters tall and the blocky proportions make them seem even bigger. My hope is that either a human model version is added via the base game or a mod at some point.

If you really do want to increase the size, you'll need to increasing their scaling modifier in their entity file, though if you do more than a slight increase you'll likely want to increase their hit box and adjust their movement speed or animation speeds so they don't look off. Your best bet might just be to mod the player to be smaller.

Hi again. I was noticing that the deer in the mod seem a bit small. Unless the Seraph is just bigger than the average human which could be the case. Is there a way for me to increase their size personally? I love this mod and all the mods you use that add fauna into the game. Thank you!

Very strange, I double checked and they all seem to be working with the mod in isolation. Is it all pelts and antlers or only some?

Running a survival mp server on 1.18.14 Updating to the latest version (1.05) left pelts, antlers as broken items. They did not seem to remap after a server restart. I reverted for now to 1.04

No plans to make compatibility for the foods at the moment, but a Cervinae mod is planned. I have a poll going on my latest FotSA mod's thread on the Vintage Story discord to decide which clade to do next. Right now the votes are for the base game animal clades, then there will be another batch of 8 clades to vote on and so on. I haven't decided if Cervinae will be in the second or third round, but not too far off.

Also, Tentharchitect any chance of us getting a Cervinae mod? :D

I wanna populate a server with Red Deer and Elk

Love this mod, any chance of getting it compatible with Primitive Survival? I'd love to be able to get smoked venison.

Expanded foods would also be good but I know that one is tough.

Thanks! As do I, I love what Vintage Story allows us to do and I really enjoy expanding on the early human history survival aspect. Can hardly wait to get to the South American taxa for that reason

Tentharchitect thank you! love your work by the way! i have a great intrest in the cenozoic and early human history, and seeing mods like this makes me happy.

No need to apologize, I appreciate the feedback. The latest update yesterday was building towards what you described, I just didn't jump straight to full 35mph charge speed and greater aggro range as both have had technical issues in the past. If no notable problems come up, I intend to raise the moose aggro range and movement speed further.

Tentharchitect hey! sorry if im bothering you, you dont need to make this change if you dont feel like it, or dont wanna. But, i did have the idea of making moose alot more aggressive, becuse, well, in real life, they are REALLY volient most of the time. the main thing that would intale, is making moose ALOT faster when running to attack you, and attack much faster. this would make it so you would need to avoid moose, like you do bears in vintage story, becuse when you encounter one, the AI flips a coin (1/2) chance to attack you, or just move away from you. and you DONT want to mess with somthing that can flatten you like a pancake, unless you have a really good plan in-mind.

Sort of, in the subtropics you'll get tropical deer in the summer and temperate deer in the winter, but tropical deer shouldn't be spawning in the temperate regions, even in summer. With how VS's climate zones vary however there will be exceptions.

Ah so they're temperature bound, does that mean you get like jungle deer in the summer?

They can in winter for temperate climates. They'll spawn when the temp gets to -2 celsius, had to keep it low so they stopped showing up in subtropic winters.

Do moose spawn in temperate climates?

No worries, that's good information to have as well. I recommend sending the dev team a bug report. 

Im back with an update to the problem, the female still wouldnt eat, and i decided to do a test on a newly created creative world, with every deer i was able to get the males to eat, but not a single female would eat anything no matter how much or what was around them, even tried growing crops near them, wild berry bushes, seeing if somehow throwing it on the ground would work, nothing, its so weird that the males would but not a single female, even if left alone or in a group

(edit) ok even weirder, the female rams and boars and chickens arent eating at all either? ill check my mods incase its a conflict or something is messing up
(edit 2) ok, it seems it is actually a issue on my end, i have disabled all mods and only have the base game stuff and yet still the males are the only ones eating, sorry to have wasted any of your time with something on my end, have a good rest of your day

ah ok, thank you very much, ill progress to the press and see if they will eat whatever mash i can scrounge up, thank you again and great mod

The food is tricky to list out and read honestly which is why I haven't made the effort to write it all out.
Capreolini, Odocoilieini deer eat flax, rice, rye, spelt, cabage, carrots, parsnip, pumpkin, peanuts and turnips.
All deer eat sunflowers, soybeans and pressed mash.

I checked through the patches, the females should go for them with time but let me know if that problem persists.

Hi, i really love the mod and it makes the world feel much more alive, but i have a problem being i cant find out what the deer eat, it does say "certain crops and berry bushes" but i cant seem to find out what crops they (specifically the reindeer and moose) will eat as im doing a game in the cold north and those are the only two i have seen, sorry for any inconvenience

(edit) so i found out the male reindeer will eat cabbage and carrots, but not the female reindeer and both moose genders wont eat any crop.

Thanks for keeping me updated Vallen!

Can verify no time skips. We'll update shortly and report back. Thanks for helping!

I was just curious if the meat was some hold over from an ancient version or something, it isn't a problem at all, I just had assumed that it had to be cooked several times or watched, like in the oven, but in the firepit!

That's more animals than a single spawning, since the white-tailed deer and reindeer cap out at 30 and those are the biggest herd sizes. Some of the bugs you've described have been fixed in later version, but I'm strongly suspecting certain commands/logging in and out quickly and time skips cause the spawn criteria to be ignored.

Sorry for the delayed response--I've been on a trip and just returned to my main machine.  The server is running FotSA-Capreolinae-v1.0.0.zip, so looks like maybe we need to update that!  I also had a LARGE herd just pop up in front of me in the wild, between a 2 minute logout/log back in.  Like 40+ animals, both adults and fawns.

Partially it is because I was using SpearandFang's crab meat as a base, but irl it is possible to bake meat and I saw no reason not to give players the option since it was only a couple more seconds of work on my end.

Absolutely enjoying this mod, but I am very curious about Venison... How come it can be baked in an oven? No other meat in the game can be put in the oven to bake. Is this a hold over from an older version or some feature I am not aware of?

Thank you! So glad you're enjoy it! Thanks for the heads up about the pies, I'll try to fix that in the next round of bug fixes. And yeah... I'll need to go through all my old audio at some point. I've learned a lot since I started and not all of the animal sounds are consistent with audio level.

Only been using this for a little while, but it's seeming like a keeper for sure! I LOVE the new decorations! One thing I've noticed is that when using the venison in pies, the item's name gets all wonky as if there's no actual name for 'venison pie' and it gives a string of text of sorts instead. Still functions as needed so it's nothing game breaking, but thought I'd mention it!

Edit: My one real complaint is that the roe deer scream gives me an absolute heart attack every time LOL... I'm never expecting it and it's so, so loud

Latest version of this mod, what you are observing is a bug from a previous version that I had fixed. I want to make sure the problem isn't that your server is still using the old version

The server is running 1.18.6, so yes.

I double checked and it looks like I used the same conditions for lights as pigs and goats, so technically that concentration of lanterns satisfied the light requirement. I still don't understand why they spawned on wood, since I just prevented that two days ago.

And I'm assuming the server is using the latest version?

Pretty sure there wasn't any skip time, as I was the only person on, both "before" and "after" and the logout time was less than about 15 minutes.  There's a chance someone popped on, but unlikely. Vallen is also a Vintage Story support person, and the server admin, and is aware of this issue.  Based on the fact it has happened 3 times, I'm pretty sure it will happen again. I do have a windmill shaft coming through the "ceiling".  I wonder if that's enough to satisfy the sunlight requirement.  Certainly no soil, sand, snow, gravel or grass inside.    

Photos of two events:
#1 

1-zoom:

#2:

Very strange, the spawn conditions require sunlight, natural blocks (soil, sand, snow, gravel or grass) and shouldn't continue spawning once one group is present within render distance. Given that three conditions were ignored I'm wondering if another mod on the server messes with the spawning condition code.
The other thing I can think of is if someone used a time skip command on the server. For some reason when those are used animals will sometimes spawn in areas they normally don't, my guess is that the condition checks are ignored during the time skip, but thus far I've never seen more than one condition ignored.

FYI, I built a large house, fully enclosed it in Granite Stone Bricks, with Cobblestone roof, initially had a grass floor.  No white-tailed deer in sight.  I swapped out the grass floor for Oak Planks, and suddenly, I've had 3 separate spawns of groups of deer.  1st time was 35 animals (all in 1 "chunk"), then 3 bucks, then 1 buck.  It seems wrong that these animals should be able to spawn on "modified"/crafted blocks--especially in an enclosed space (no way to see air/sunlight).

Photos available if needed.  This is on the Mischief of Mice (Vallen & Kashcah) supporter server.  

They already attract the cats, though I decided not to spend too much time patching all the base game animals. My overhauls will have bears, wolves, jackals and hyenas going for carcasses

Suggestion: The fly covered carcass should attract predators (bears wolves cats) as well as prevent deer spawns

Unlike the vanilla bighorn sheep, they are very good at escaping on quick feet.
And there are so many species that it will be hard to see all the added deer, but I am looking forward to it.

I made a Japanese file, so please use it if you like.😄

FotSA-Capreolinae-v1.0.2_capreolinae_ja.json

FotSA-Capreolinae-v1.0.2_faunaofthestoneage_ja.json

Gotcha, I'd been hoping to add some compatibility patches for just that purpose but didn't get to it before my season started. I'll be doing so in the fall.

Tentharchitect I just meant that you can't do all the things with venison as what you can do with redmeat in primitive survival

@RobertS42, you could go through the entity files are replace vension with redmeat. What do you mean by clashing with primitive survival? 

Is there a way to remove the venison, just so it won't clash with features from primitive survival?

Self resolved.
I entered the following command that SpearAndFang gave us in the Medieval Fashion comments section and the funny textures are gone.

.clientconfig maxTextureAtlasWidth 8192
.clientconfig maxTextureAtlasHeight 8192

I thought it was a very apt mod and created the Japanese file along with Fauna of the Stone Age: Pantherinae, but I am happy to report that when I installed this mod in my environment, several existing textures went wrong.
For example, a flower in a flowerpot, a tapestry with 3 horizontal squares, a bookshelf where books can be placed, shoes on the ground, etc.

Yes, I need to fix the ID so male deer are an acceptable mate for the female deer 😅
Thanks for bringing that to my attention Hexedian, will have a fix posted momentarily. 

Do you need to do anything to breed mule deers? They eat the food, but don't seem to get pregnant at all, while other animals go through several generations.

Thanks! Once I made the worldgen mods I knew I wanted to make some new creatures to fill the landscape!

Damn, this is some A+ stuff. Found this on accident through your excellent worldgen mods.

Venison, fat, a unique pelt that can be used for decor or crafted into the base game hide with a knife and for those that have them, antlers or tusks. The carcass drops a small amount of venison.

What drops do these have?

Reworded a couple things in the description, had copied and edited from my Pantherinae mod and missed them, thanks for pointing it out.

Tentharchitect
This part isn't clearly written: "a unique type of fly covered carcasses will prevent deer spawning in the area around them"

Possibly better: "fly-covered carcasses will prevent deer spawning in the area around them"

Gah!  My reaction to the first screenshot above was "Gorgeous!"  Then I switched to cussing.
Great job!!