Mods / Alternative Offhand Penalty
Author: Lodish
Side: Both
Created: Apr 24th 2024 at 1:43 PM
Last modified: Mar 24th at 6:45 PM
Downloads: 3272
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Latest release (for outdated Vintage Story v1.20.6):
altoffhandpenalty_1.2.1.zip
1-click install
Currently in Vanilla holding anything in your offhand slot increases your hungerrate by 20% (VS Wiki) and I felt this debuff was too strong, especially to people who like to always be holding a light source. This mod adds a different hunger rate increase depending on the item in your offhand slot and also new different penalties.
Smaller items like the basic torch and the ink and quill - 5% hunger increase
Shields - 15% hunger increase
Anything else (lanterns hammers tongs etc.) - 10% hunger increase
In balance to this buff to the hunger rates, now when you have an item in your offhand you get -10% to your animal harvesting speed and block breaking speed regardless of offhand item.
All values can be changed to your liking by editing the config file (AltOffhandPenaltyConfig.json in the ModConfig folder)
This mod is heavily based on previous mods changing the offhand penalty, this mod is an alternative balance to them, check them out here: https://mods.vintagestory.at/offhanddebuffpatch https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/8034 https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/276
To work on versions of Vintage Story before 1.20.1 please use the 1.0.0 version.
Two Handed Mode
Currently if you're holding something in your right hand there are no debuffs so by my logic there should be no debuff if you're only holding something in one hand regardless if it's a in a normal slot or the offhand slot. If you enable two handed mode, penalties will only be applied to you when both of your hands are holding items. (Off by default, set "twoHandedOnlyPenalty": as true in the config)
To Do:
Find a way to change speed of breaking dirt blocks, currently only able to change speed of mining stone/ore blocks .
| Version | For Game version | Downloads | Release date | Changelog | Download | 1-click mod install* |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| v1.2.1 | 1047 | Mar 24th at 6:45 PM | Show | altoffhandpenalty_1.2.1.zip | 1-click install | |
| v1.1.1 | 1221 | Jan 20th at 7:46 AM | Show | altoffhandpenalty_1.1.1.zip | 1-click install | |
| v1.0.0 | 1004 | Apr 24th 2024 at 1:45 PM | Show | altoffhandpenalty_1.0.0.zip | 1-click install |
working in 1.20.6
Thank you!
holy cow THANK YOU for the config! i was really really hoping for it haha
Likely just a mod conflict for me then. I'll keep testing it, thanks for getting back.
I've been using it since 1.20.4 and it's still working for me. vOv
I appreciate this mod, but yeah, it would be even better with configurability. I could see a small hunger penalty for shields, since those can be as heavy as armor, but for everything else it's pretty silly and a bit annoying as a gameplay effect. Ratcheting up the work rate penalty to 20% instead would make perfect sense to me (try using a shovel or something with just one hand free, lol), and I don't think it would be too annoying to play. Would more obviously prod the player to place their torch when possible while mining, which is a natural-feeling workflow to me.
Strange, I just tested it in 1.20.6 and it seems to still be working, anyone else having issues? Roidgy
There's no settings/config file yet but I plan on working on that next DudeBroManGuy
Doesn't seem to be working on 1.20.5 , still at 120% no matter what I have offhand. Wish the vanilla game just had it toggleable or at least more nuanced, such a baffling feature.
Is there a settings file or something that I can modify to set that extra hunger to 0% in order to fix the game dev's clear and obvious poor game design choice?
Honestly, a version of this that just ditches the hunger rate penalty entirely and doubles that animal harvesting + block breaking penalty would make a lot more sense imo. Shouldn't really be exhausting to hold a torch or lantern in your offhand, but it should be cumbersome and impede manual dexterity tasks. :)
I'm so with Mendell on this.. This debuff should not even be a thing it's ridiculous.. might as well just mod it out..
It does not work in 1.20, I will try to update fixed it @Desolae
Anyone know if this still works in 1.20?
i just straight up went ahead and removed the debuff because it makes no sense
This hole mechanic is and has always been just plain strange to me. I am over 50 years old, and I have had two hands for all those years.
And I can say for sure I have never felt hungrier when holding something in both hands.
What is the point to it at all. If its game balance what does the hands have to do with anything. Just make hunger increase when exerting yourself.
Or just increase hunger rate all together. You should not feel guilty, ComradeTum. Unless you find holding your fork in your left hand to make you ravenous in real life.
Just up hunger rate 5% across the board and make this lame mechanic disappear altogether.
Personally, I just hold what ever I want, where ever I want, and try real hard to forget this is even a thing. It strains credibility and breaks immersion.
And if I get hungry................ I eat.
This is great! Id feel guilty removing the offhand penalty entirely but your rebalance is exactly what I needed. Should be in the base game!