What kind of work would have to go into Combat Overhaul compatibility?

can you add atlatl :3 
UWU 

Not a fan of the fantasy metals. i thought they had to be manually enabled. What could happen if I remove this mod mid playthroguh after I sutmbled across  a bunch of athril?

I saw you said "Likely any other mod that attempts to add new metals.", but do you know if this plays well with Titanium Tools or Geology Additions?

Thanks, don't know why i was looking in the mod files themselves

Tavos appdata/roaming/vintagestorydata/modconfig/swordzconfig

Where in the file do I go to turn on the Naginata?

Zolgrim

Great mod! Please add compatibility with XSkills mod - smithing skill in this mod add quality for weapon and tools. Modded weapons and tools need compatibility patches. Thank you!

Is this compatible with Toolsmith and Combat Overhaul?

Oh my god he's back! 🎉🎉🎉. 

also the cross sling would be called a stone bow which shot rolled clay pellets or lead balls becuase actual stones were too unreliable to use. cool small game weapon.

and actually thank you for taking such a long absence 😆. otherwise I wouldn't have started modding.

The arming sword has no crafting recipe anywhere to be found

Zolgrim could it be possible to fix the abscence of crafting recipe for the longsword please ? it doesn't have one currently

WolfCrusader : Don't know.

ManuelOfArms : Bug, will look into a fix.

rajeet : Can craft arming swords just fine, don't know what your problem is. 

Shadoclawx : Can't replicate, both are having animations and was able to kill numerous drifters.

All others , please put issues on the git so we can track them better, and give more information.

Does this mod actually add the Mithril, Adamant, Orichalcum (etc.) ores to the worldgen?

I tested this on a new world. The worldgen aspect of the mod throws index outofbound errors. I will report this on github.

Seems the animations are missing from some of the weapons. The war scythes and warhammers don't register an animation and do not attack entities.

throws a huge list of errors rn

more photos plzzzz

do arming swords just not have any crafting recipe, because theres no handle

Do the bearded axes not currently chop wood or do I have a mod conflict?
Maybe Xskills blacksmithing qualities interacts in a weird way?

Is this compatible with combat overhaul

o wow ok then good to know then.

jamescook They used to but it was exploitable as it didn't check what the surrounding blocks were, only the central one you mined. If we or someone else in the future can figure out a workable hack/fix, we'll include it.

i wish the sledgehammers worked on ores as well tbh.

Here is the mod updated for 1.20.7
https://github.com/user-attachments/files/19722312/Swordz.1.1.8.zip
corrction applied for all craft using leather from this mod

Tried both the versions supplied on the github, and Feretta's suggestion, but neither have ended up working for me on 1.20.7. How did you all get your recipes to work? edited the .jsons just makes the zip file unusable in the mod loader and it keeps telling me to check to log files which are unhelpful.

I can confirm that below version from tak is working fine on 1.20.7 even with 127 different mods but of course there are texture bugs with mod Conquest vs Edition

I was able to build the latest version of this from source in VS code (after this PR was merged: https://github.com/Zflocco/Swordz/pull/14) and it all seems to be working for me in 1.20.7

Feretta

THXXXXXXXX i love u ;) 

finally not yet succeeded x)

So I sat down and looked at comparisons between working and non-working recipes, and it turns out;
Anything that calls for leather-plain in the grid recipe breaks the recipe and refuses to work. Changing it to leather-* fixes it for each individual one. This primarily affects the swords, since they're the ones that specifically call for plain leather.

You can fix this yourselves for now by unpacking the zip, going into swordz 1.1.8\assets\swordz\recipes\grid, and from there opening each individual json file in notepad, replacing every instance of leather-plain with leather-* then saving the file, repackage it into a zip and you should be good to go.

It is admittedly pretty funny for a mod named Swordz to have all the sword recipes broken, though. :p

Hi, I wanted to ask if I could take a look at the mod and code, since I'm c# dev IRL. Me and my friends wanted to add this mod to the server and I wanted to update it to 1.20.4. I can help! Please DM me if you are interested Zolgrim

I have no idea how to craft quite a few of the weapons because they do not have listed recipes, most of which are the swords. This includes everything from the shortsword to the zweihander, with only things like the seax and the pernach having recipes.

it works, overall, just need those recipes Galena

Gentlemen, does it work for 1.20?

Yes me too, that is why Im here as well TheValiX  I finally got to that point and stuck, I havent sharpened it either, not sure if that matters.  I use the halberd as an alternative.  ALSO: I want to note, Aithril is everywhere?  Not sure if that was intentional, but I could have enough for a lifetime just by jumping on a raft and going up a river. Other than that, I will end this with saying this mod is awesome and always has been, I appreciate the other mods youve made as well, most are on our server!

Hello, I have a problem with the crafting of swords that require a handle, such as the zweihander, the long sword, the kilij, etc. No crafting appears in the wiki or by pressing H

anyword on a update?

@LyndonBJohnson did you find manganese ore by the way? I seem to be having this very same issue.

I only found minuscule traces in slate up until now, I tried modifying ore deposit to spawn bigger deposits but now I don't even get readings in new chunks anymore.

So, question, what is a cementary and how do you make it? Is it exclusive to this mod or is there vanilla game recipe/diagram for it I'm missing?

For anyone looking for an update, there's an unofficial one here in the Swordz discord thread.

Amazing mod, desperately waiting for an update for 1.20 stable

I know this is not compatible with 1.20 but has anyone else been having issues with certain weapons not being craftable? I.e. sabres. They appear to be missing the crafting recipe.
Another thing I noticed was that weapons seemed to be missing a weapon swing cooldown meaning you can spam click an enemy to death.
Hopefully a 1.20 patch does come out in the future, love this mod!

We love this mod on our server, but in 1.20 it leaves blocks of aithril sitting randomly on the world surface and floating on water. I know you have ambitions for this beyond your current experience, but would you ever consider doing a 1.20 patch?

In either case, your work has been much appreciated for many hours! Thank you!

Do you plan to make this compatible with CombatOverhaul?

set fantasy metals: false
Half of meteorites I find are Aithril even in new worlds

So how do I turn these Aithril nuggets into ingots? I can put the pieces in a bloomery, but all these nuggets don't seem to have a purpose.

Zolgrim

for some reason every world im creating isnt generating any of this mod's ore. 

Great mod. However, I place a heated Mithril Bloom on a Titanium anvil under the appropriate helve hammer, no recipes are there. Can't make anything. Is there a way to fix this? I removed Extended Crafts from my server but still nothing. The crafting window up when I place a heated bloom on the anvil, but there's nothing there.

Why does mithril chain have plate's high tier damage resist?

Any plans ahead to be compatible with Ancient armory so maybe we can get Titanium pole-axes?

Also LyndonBJohnson There is a mod that effectively tells you where something is as long as you search for it, and have a set radius, I had to use it for finding Manganese Ore, and we've found it in primarily Slate / Shale [I can't tell the two apart]  so you may have to find yourself a Biome of Black and simply dig, if you don't feel like pretty much Cheating.

Any noted conflicts with Ores A Plenty?
Cant seem to find manganese in any of the stones that it can spawn in.

This mods seriously needs a Guide

How far out do you find the stuff for the Mangnanese Powder?

I am thirding the XSkills and copper seax issue. It could be other seax, but I only tried copper.

I am having the same issue and also use Xskills.

LadyBlakeHammer

So we ran into a problem for some reason, and we used the Copper Seax, and its not hitting anything, and we use Xskills that's about the only thing that would mess with weapons. I think?

Thank you so much for this amazing mod. I really enjoy all of the new weapons that you've added. I've also just started to get into the new metals that you added. I can't wait to be able to make all of the weapons out of Mithril. Keep up the amazing work. 

Hey there. I have noticed that the long weapons like Halbert are floating when put on the ground. Irks be a lil bit. Could that be fixed?

Zolgrim Turns out I was using 1.1.7, But for the record it was Culinary artillery and Expanded Foods

Valencrad What recipes, are they from mods? 1.1.8 should've fixed the majority of issues that knives had.

Loving the mod, only issues i've had are knives not working for some other mods recipes (not a big deal) and armour having clothes glitch through.

I concur. Somehow not being able to craft Mithril swords and such feels disappointing. Could it be OP? I sure hope so! I don't craft zweihanders for no reason. Plus if you keep the color scheme of the materials, e.g. red bits on Aithril weapons like with plate armor, you could end up with some really metal stuff.

i think we should be able to enable it so weapons can be made from the new metals. That would be really grand.

will there be a use for the [metal]bits we get from xskills recovery for example?

normally you can put these in a bloomery to recover an ingot back after finishing multiple products

hi i would love to see more pre-columbian weapons from other cultures of america, like iroquoi weapons, mississippian weapons, others from mesoamerica, and the andes. i would love it! it would be magnificent

Might I suggest splitting the fantasy metals into a separate mod?

Thank you so much for all of the hard work you've put into this mod. Its one of my favorites and it really fills the gaps when it came to melee weapons. I've also been super excited to try out the new tools. 

[Server Error] Patch 150 (target: swordz:recipes/grid/polearms/naginata.json) in swordz:patches/disabler.json failed because supplied path /enabled is invalid: The json path /enabled was not found. No such element 'enabled' at the root path

Segas_Wolf  This mod doesn't touch the vanilla falxes at all.

Hexis The mantle thing should be fixed in 1.1.6 but the ores and translocator issues were an oversite on my part and I have modified it for 1.1.7 to fix this. I would also mention that we're mainly using and coding the mod for 1.18 so there could be some unexpected issues from that.

Hey, this is in the same vein as the Mantle thing people have mentioned.... sledgehammer is also breaking Translocators if breaking a block adjacent. something low as steel is also able to break much higher tier ores like aithril so long as you break the block right next to it. this is in 1.19.3 on a server. 

i've noticed when it comes to the xskills quality modifier for blacksmith if you smith anything that needs to be honed it removes the quality modifier. if the swords have hilts like the zweihander it keeps the quality modifier because the crossguard wasnt changed. Maybe this can be fixed by adding crossguards to the smithing process of all the blades so they keep their quality modifier?

scales for scale armor are missing a smithing recipe

Perdous Poleaxe, Halberd, Khopesh and a few other things are in 1.1.7, gonna be a hot minute for 1.1.7 though, trying to get certain C# things to work.
Wandour Oversight, is there any other things not working for recipes? Fixed for 1.1.7

Probably one of the best weapons mods I have used over the years playing vintage story :D The models and selection of weapons are great so far. If I would have any wishes for it, I'd as for a poleaxe because that is a pretty underrated weapon among plenty of people. But that is kind of it. I really like using this mod and I will be excited to see future updates!

is there a reason why new metal axes cant be used in recipes? like stainless steel axe chopping firewood?

Seems like stainless steel and other new tools of the newer tiers metals arent compatible with skill from xskills such as tunnel digger

so the sledgehammer is deleting mantle blocks when destroying blocks above them. this is probably a code mistake that should be fixed asap, since falling down into nothing may cause serious problems on servers. Zolgrim

i THINK the anvils for stainless steel and up don't work with xskills

its possible to use the sledgehammer to break mantle. this is probably not intentional

are you gonna add stainless steel, titanium etc into the swords items? because I noticed they are used mostly for vanilla stuff and not swordz weapons
(i get some might be so heavy theoretically so not for ranged weapons)

edit, i might've mixed your mod with weaponpack and ancient armory, still consider compatibility if possible ^^;

UPDATE : I discovered the problem isnt your mod, it's Xskills version 0.8.0rc-2 damage bonuses arent working at all even for vanilla

How do I smelt titanium bits, I got bits from smithing and dunno how to remake into ingot; won't fit in bloomery or the ingot mold recipe.
Also what is sparring mode?

ShanaLarisar To answer your original question on Xskills smithing, putting it simply : There is no easy and satisfactory way of doing that, one of the ways would be to simply have the player "resmith" the blade on an anvil again.

As for aithril, I intend on making aithril a meteorite like meteoric iron, but I didn't get around to it for 1.1.6, so as a stopgap I made them a surface deposit, from my initial testing I thought they were rare enough but that'd obviously be incorrect, consider it a "feature" until a future update adds them as a meteorite proper. If the next update doesn't add them as such, I've lowered their spawn rate drastically as a surface deposit failing that.

Is it intentionally to have minerals like Airthril spawning as surface deposites? Seems a little odd to me.They're also really, really common. I've found about 5-10 surface nodes within a 5k block square.

question for you why are most sword worse than a falx ?
at most its 1 tier higher than the falx and 50 more durability
its like there no point to get a sword other than aesthetic

compared a tin bronze to a honed tin bronze arming sword
*note i have yet to  use the mod  and not just compare stuff

can there be a version without the fantasy ores? they kinda clog the help page and are 1. quite outside of the feel of the game 2. not used in any of the weapons, the main draw of the mod and 3. look gross. not really trying to be mean on that last one, just seems like that should be an add on for this mod rather than included.

Would it be possible to allow you to sharpen a completed Blunt/Dull/Sharp weapon, to allow for compatability with xSkills smithing talents that add quality attirbutes to weapons? As it is at the moment, you'll have quality on a blunt blade before it's sharpened, and if you make a blunt sword it keeps the qaulity, but sharpening a blunt blade into a dull blade removes the quality since it's no longer a 'metalsmithing' item. I imageine the only exploit would be repairing the sword, but if you can make it retair durability when sharpened then that wouldn't be an issue. 

Either way I love the mod, thank you for making it!

I highly advice lowering the saturation of the fantasy ores

they kinda blinding to stare at for too long 

maybe lower the saturation by 50% ?

I've only worked with Mithril thus far, but it seems the workable temperature is set to all, so itr doesn't need to be heated up to work.

Veir

contact me on discord : https://discord.com/channels/302152934249070593/1210621389715804180/1210621389715804180

Hello, do you accept translations? I made one for Polish language.

and now the Unoff file is 0k in size, just a heads up.

You should push a version higher than 1.19.3, because currently 1-click install installs the unofficial version.  

Is the 1.1.5 update only for game version 1.18.15? (1.19.3 has been added to the supported version listing for 1.1.5, thank you Zolgrim)

Zolgrim

I've finally released Swordz (and more) 1.1.5 after working on it for more than a month , this update is of particular note due to it adding a bunch of new weapons as well as other things such as craftable stainless steel, titanium, and three new ores. This update MIGHT cause conflicts with certain other mods and might even cause the game to crash upon loading worlds if 1.1.5 is removed, please read the patchnotes and let me know on any new issues that might arise.

Firstly let me say thank you for taking the time to expand the weapons of VS I've thoroughly enjoyed your mod especially on a server where I play a weaponsmith. Keep up the good work and thank you very much. 

Having used the mod in both multi-player and single player I have noticed some aspects of the mod, at least in the bronze age going into Iron. Please note, I am not a coder nor do I understand the full workings of the VS combat and armour systems so my suggestions that are outlandish can be dismissed. 

1.) Tin Bronze Shortswords are S rank weapons, they are cheap to produce, have 530 durability, 2m range and deal 4.8 damage. However when compared to the honed Tin Bronze arming sword which has 500 durability, 2.8m range and deals 4.8 damage. It is clear that there needs to be a larger difference between the two. 

I am referring to the Honed arming sword as its the highest tier of that weapon, which I understand not everyone will have access to, however it is the best possible version of the weapon and will be compared to shortswords.

I would also like to add that the arming sword has a slower attack speed which is perfect, however perhaps an increase in damage would help accompany that effort into swinging. Alternatively perhaps a cleave effect for multiple enemies though this is a coding aspect which I have stated above my experience with.
I also think that arming swords should have higher damage overall as they are expensive weapons to make regardless of what materials are used, feel free to increase the damage of the steel arming sword to raise that cap. Perhaps from 4 to 7 as metals improve.

As it stands shortswords have a quick attack speed and high damage meaning they are the best DPS weapons in the Swordz mod I have found against drifters, players and beasts. I would recommend a decrease in damage of shortswords with copper starting at around 3 and working up to 5 as you get to steel. Shortswords shouldn't be equal to damage in falxs, they should be dealing slightly less because they swing faster and therefore have a higher DPS. I would also say remove grass cutting and butchery aspect from the shortswords to make seaxs more special. 

2.) Nadziaks and Bearded axes. A niche for doubling up as a weapon and a tool. As it stands its easier to make tools as they cost less in both Bronze and Iron ages so these weapons need to be a bit more damaging as I see little reason to invest a smithed ingot and nails for something that isn't doing much more damage than a tool. I would suggest either making them slower harder hitting weapons with some tool capability instead of weak damage weapon/tool hybrids. Increase damage and slow down attack speed to make them harder hitting and worth investment of nails. 

Bearded Axe: Slower attack speed, higher damage against unarmoured targets/ damage increase from 3 to 5 as metals improve

Nadziak: Slower attack speed, higher damage against armoured targets/ damage increase from 3 to 5 as metals improve. Increased durability to 500 to match Bearded Axe

3.) Warcsythes. Not worth the investment of a full tool, wrench and nails. Range is too low, I'd say bump to 2.8-3.2m. Remove cost of nails and it would be more viable as a long range lower damage weapon. Also like Nadziaks and Bearded axes, let it also still function as a tool. Would make it a little more viable. 

4.) Overall I am happy with the parts of the mod I have played with, I am yet to test all iron and steel weapons in survival, but no doubt I will return with feedback. Thanks once again for the hardwork.  

Yeah, all the weapon animations are fixed, and everything should work in 1.19 now :)

(Zwei has a semi-new anim now btw)

@pyrix

Did you ever test this to see if it does work with 1.19? Cause I am very sad that there's no other swords besides the fugly falx and I'd love to add this to the server if it still does

Just tested it out in a creative world, switching back and forth to survival mode, and forged an arming sword out of iron. It worked fine, using immersive camera also and it works fine. Just wanted to edit in case any one else wanted to know

Is this still working for 1.19?

Maxim_inc Added to the list

Is there any way you can add a Daneaxe?

I see that your currently using what appears to be European middevil weapon sets, any chance of eventually doing more exotic weapons like scimitars or katana style weapons?

Thank you so much. Its hard to find a fun weapons mod. Yours is by far my favorite. I can't wait to see if you come up with any other weapons. The Pila with a quiver would be amazing. I always prefered the spear option. Oh and it works on 1.19 just fine. The only weapon that I've seen an issue with is the Zweihander animation. But that can be worked around until you fix it. Once again thanks for all of the hard work. 

The mod should work with 1.19 but I will not be supporting or fixing any issues specifically within 1.19 as I and my server still use 1.18.15, I'm especially not going to try to fix anything involving an experimental feature.
With that said, I will attempt to fix animations at some point which should fix some of the issues with the immersive FP.

Loving this mod, will it be updated to 1.19?

Players on our server seem to be experiencing a similar issue to Vargur with the immersive first person view showing visible hair. Is there a possibility of an update that might fix this?

Tested this out a bit with the Immersive First-person option, it works well with a couple issues: it causes my player's hair to be visible in First-person view, partly blocking the view. Also since the Immersive First-P option uses all the Third-person animations, some of them don't make sense, like the Ranseur animation stabs towards the ground instead of straight ahead. I hope they can be worked out because all the weapons look great, and their animations are really nice with the immersive 1st option, I especially love having the large weapons leaning against the shoulder.

new arming sword model is cool

1.1.3 has a messer, I might add a großes messer in the future. ASILiara

I'm not sure how you'd make it interesting as a weapon, but I'd be rather interested in seeing a kriegsmesser added.

Is there anyway I can get these to work with Necessaries grindstone?

beagan Hafts in general need some refining, the arming sword model is the vanilla one and will (probably) be replaced at some point.

finally got a chance to test the mod, i love it. couple of requests, some wooden hafts for the mace would also be nice and maybe some crossguards like the zwei has but for the arming sword.

also a lil nitpick, i think the arming sword model is more akin to a bastard sword in blade and handle length if you would like a better name for it but also im just a dweeb. 🤓

thanks for the awesome mod its all i wanted.

Yes and no, It depends on a weapon to weapon basis. Overall I'm trying to balance things with vanilla in mind so Xskills compatability (or balancing) is really not high on my priority list at the current moment and some weapons such as the Zwei would likely be hilariously overpowered as a blackguard with Xskill's extra sword damage (The Zwei is in fact Xskills compatible). Tetsune

Does this have compatibility with XSkills?

Okay, thanks for reply.

Quartal It's due to how the mod/game is set up currently, it's on the list to fix eventually, for now I'm keeping it as is.

Shortsword as well as bearded axes don't have a weapon animation like arming sword for example, which makes them attack really fast Zolgrim

Fynneberg fixed in next update
Quartal not quite sure what you're asking here, do you mean first person?

Is there any way i could make shortswords etc. have a weapon animation or is it strictly bound to them being tools too?

There's a small problem with the bec de corbin crafting recipe, instead of the actual bec de corbin it just gives you back the bec de corbin head while consuming the other crafting materials. Great mod otheriwse!

This is incredible. Everything I have dreamed of in this game. Can't wait to see how it evolves and grows!

Good job. Of course, it is necessary to carry out work to the level of a perfectionist, but I think that the mod is worthy. I haven’t played with weapon mods yet, but next time (in half a year, when 1.19, patches and mods come out) I think I’ll try it. And while FSM mods are being developed to expand long-range weapons, I see you are working on melee weapons. Do you want to expand what the spear counterpart will be in future updates? Good idea. I really hope that the work will continue in the same direction and that you will be proud of your creation.

Bobosaw fixed.

Zach2039 was disabled as there wasn't any recipe calling for it yet, should have the conflict with polished slabs fixed though, let me know.

There might be recipe conflicts with polished rock slabs and whetstones. Also, the granite whetstone isn't craftable.

Hi again. After some testing it seems like the only item that is crashing the game when you look in the H guidebook is the rawhide mantle. As soon as you click it it crashes the game. Hopefully this helps.

Zolgrim

ASILiara Took it out , I'll put it back in, in the next update.

My game seems not to have registered the existence of the meteoric iron shortsword. Real shame, because I was hoping to put one together.

I have a suspicion that it isn't actually your mod that is the problem. Still more testing to do though

Zolgrim

I doubt Tyron will be adding stainless steel. Stainless steel is a modern convention and it is usually less durable than just carbon steel. Stainless is an alloy using chromium and in my experience with blades, it’s usually not as durable.

Zolgrim

This is a really great mod.

"Better textures (lol, lmao even)" 😂

Bobosaw I'm still using 1.18.15 and won't migrate over to 1.19 for a good while yet, hadn't known it was crashing but I did notice a few hours post-1.0.6 that there was a few goofs that I have now resolved for 1.0.7 , these should (hopefully) fix any sort of issues there. I'm going to postpone 1.0.7 as I want to add atleast 1 more weapon on the todo list before publishing.
Edit : 1.0.7 has been released, let me know if issues persist.

Probably not a problem, but I am playing in 1.19.0 rn and whenever I look up recipes that use the seax I CTD. Might be another mod though, will test more. Honestly I love this mod already. Can't wait for more content!

ASILiara Drifers are Tier 0, so higher tier doesn't equate to more damage on them, the only thing it currently affects (AFAIK) is PVP.
As far as damage values are concerned, I'm taking critiques, I'm trying to keep things fair/balanced but that might not always be possible. (E.G. The ruined bearded axe is 4.5 damage but my steel one is 4.0 , I'm under the assumption that whenever Tyron adds stainless steel, following the usual values that the metal progressions have had, the Stainless steel will be that 4.5 damage)
But on note of the shortsword, I was using the Blackguard shortsword as a baseline, The durability of the blackguard shortsword is +1 tier (meteoric) while being +2 tiers on damage (steel) despite being made of iron, The tradeoff to the shortsword is it has half a meter less range (so more likely to be hit) but it's also more expensive (currently 1 leather, might add a whetstone requirement).

Bobosaw Check newest update, LMK.

Couldn't help but notice that the shortsword is just more powerful than the falx, since it has more attack power and lets you butcher. Given that falxes are supposed to be specifically anti-drifter weapons, maybe shortswords and seaxes should have a lower damage tier to reflect that? I don't know if drifters have protection tiers at any level, is the thing.

That's valid tbh. Hats off to you King

Bobosaw Laziness, I make no promises but I might fix it in the next update or two.

Is there a reason why knife crafting recipes can't be used with seax? Not complaining too much, I just want a replacement for the ugly ass knives. 

goes hard

beagan Done.

Zweihander, you say 👀

please sir may i have some longsword

Bobosaw Grass & Cattails yes, recipes that call for a "knife" , no.

Do the seax's and short swords work like knives do with cattails and grass? Or do they only work to butcher? Will they also work in crafting recipes that use knives?

I love it, good job.