Substrate

Is this compatible with 1.20.12?

Question, is there a config/can there be an option to disable certain mushrooms? Or rather a blacklist/whitelist function? Certain... special mushrooms should be a bit harder to come by and not easily grown in the basement, but that's just me! (And it might be useful for server owners who don't want people subsisting entirely on shrooms if only a select few can be cultivated)

I have a few requests, this mod is awesome!

I'd personally love to see some 1x1 grow beds. The 2x2's are way bigger than expected.

It'd be great to have the "Ingredient for" tabs updated for the mushrooms themselves too. Also, a small tutorial page explaining the full steps in the handbook would be stellar!

I made a PR to add in the functionality for those two planned features at the bottom, if queerty MrFlame Averixus are interested at all

https://github.com/averixus/Substrate/pull/2

Running a heavily modded game, was looking to switch NDL Mushroom Growth for this mod, but i get the following crash on v2.0.0:

The mod has been updated to version 1.22.х
Thanks to Averixus for the updated code
As soon as Willis returns, we'll add him as a co-author of the mod👌

Hi queerty MrFlame, I've just published an updated version for 1.22: https://mods.vintagestory.at/substratereflush. If you return to update this one I'll be happy to take it down to avoid duplication. Otherwise I'll do my best to keep it updated and might end up making other changes in future.

I just saw Ozyzzyl's link to another fork moments before I posted this 😅 But that version still has the Harmony patch error, so I'll leave my one up.

just a heads up guys there is a temporary fork of this mod for 1.22

https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/48330

This looks quite interesting; definitely one of, if not the best, mushroom farming mods I have seen. Do you still intend to update it?

Are there any plans to update this mod for 1.22?

herbemoji Good to know!

Averixus Makes sense. I've had success growing them in a cellar, so it seems anywhere is fine (for now....).

herbemoji As far as I can tell, there actually are no environmental requirements? I took a look at the code and it doesn't seem to check anything about the surroundings. I have mine growing outside now and they're working fine. I wonder if that line was maybe added in relation to the planned feature of "requirement to grow within a cellar".

Averixus did you ever figure out what environment it needs? im trying it in a cellar right now but im afraid it's not gonna work lol

What makes a "suitable environment" for a growing bag? The description here says "details in-game" but I can't seem to find the details (is there meant to be a handbook entry?)

I'm absolutely no expert on cultivating mushrooms, but the sterilization seems kinda redundant to me when the fruiting bag / growing bed and its location aren't sterile environments either. This feels more like a modern step being applied to the not so modern world of VS. I think a more fitting alternative may be to give the fertilized fruiting bag / growing bed a chance to fail and produce a bunch of rot during the colonization process, similar to how fruit tree cuttings can fail to take root.

This mod would be perfect with the poison weapons mod recently added to the workshop, poison tipped arrows using mushrooms.

No grain spawn?

I love this mod and the way you have to work to cultivate your mushrooms, but I have no idea what the wood chips and sawdust are for.

HI, i like the mod so far and its a huge help for alchemy but would it be possible to charge/refresh the fertility after its done? Unless im missing something its just one set of uses then you have to replace it ya?

I feel like a soild QoL option that could be a toggle in the config, maybe make it cost half a stack of rot and some grain and more spore paper? plus some time for rerooting.

I updated the mod, added a config and updated the workflow for external contributors! Pull request pending!

Compared to starting a feild of cabbage or any vegtable, this has a lower yeild overall. Not to mention how little mushrooms give out in terms of nutrition.

Its an amazing idea for a mod, i just feel like for the amount of work it takes to create Aqua vintae and prepare Fruiting bags, i could plant a garden and get signifigantly more food overall.

I feel you should increase the total yeild per bag and make the different mushroom types unique to each other in cooking and growing.
For instance, Chicken of the woods having a higher satuation amount and give out protein while growing slower, and smaller mushrooms like Feild mushrooms that will grow faster than other types while staying at 80 saturation. 

why does the growing bed have 13 icons in survival handbook when i check recipes for dry grass what can be made out of it ? and only one is actual clickable

It'd be nice if there was a config to multiply the ammount of mushrooms you get. Or for mushrooms to accumulate over time and allow you to harvest more at a time. Currently it just can't compete with crops and it's very sad. It's interesting to play around but not very revarding as far as resources go

Doc_Holiday Come on. Be nice. It is an amazing mod. It makes sense. It is fun. It is rewarding. You either make your own smarter mod and let it speak for itself or keep your vulgarity away from amazing talented people.

Very dumb.

Runovaris I'm still on 1.21.1 and this mod works for me. Just about to innoculate my first batch of mushrooms to make some mushroom patte with the Long Term Food mod. 

Please, add d a short guide to the game manual—I would be endlessly grateful!!))

I absolutely love your mod

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MrFlame appreciate you letting us know and thank you for working on it while Queerty is away!!

Runovaris I haven't tried it, but I'm sure there won't be any problems.

MrFlame Does the 1.21.4 work for 1.21.1? Asking since there later version is 1.20.5 and I know fore sure that doesn't work for 1.21.1.

Hey guys, the author of the mod is temporarily unable to update it, so I offered to help. I updated the mod to 1.21.4, added a separate creative tab and Ukrainian localization. I will try to keep the mod up to date for the game until Queerty returns. Thanks everyone for the feedback and enjoy!

any chance you could add a guide section to the in-game help book?

Such a cool mod, I did this with RL lions mane a few years ago, super cool.

Messed about in crative.
Seems to be working in 1.21
I only tested if the grow beds and fruiting bags actually grew things, not if you could craft stuff.

Hate to be the third, but any confirmation if working with 1.21? I'm thinking ill install it just incase it does work, id imagine this update doesnt fuss with it, though im not sure how things like Item IDs and whatnot work in this game. worst comes to worst if it doesnt give me greif at the get go, i just make too much aqua vitae.

Update: Upon loading in, all items apprear right in the help menu, id assume this means the game is able to load the mod's resources without much issue, itle be a minute before i get to using it all in survival, but it does appear to work. 

great concept, cant wait fo 1.21 update

Will it be update for 1.21 ?

Hi, I believe there is a small bug in your code.  Fertility gets consumed from growing beds/bags even if all block faces are currently occupied.  This means they can become moldy after a single harvest if left unnattended for a long time, which happens a lot on active servers unless you are constantly watching them.  I believe the fix would be just moving this line in your code to the statement that checks for open block faces.  If this is an intended feature, can this at least be a configurable setting in a future update?  Thank you!

https://github.com/willis81808/Substrate/blob/main/Substrate/Substrate/BlockEntities/BlockEntityFruitingBag.cs#L164

Hi, is this mod compatible with Wild Farming Revival mod?

queerty Do you still have any plans with the sawdust and woodbits? Since it seems they are currently unused but are craftable.

-PS love the mod so far.

I was lucky i tried it on my experiments world, it breaks the save in way that repair mode can't fix with an unhelpful message

Server shutting down - Exception during Process' (Server shutting down - Exception during Process)

Here's a zip of all the logs

EDIT: Nevermind seems to work fine, my tiny tiny world has just betrayed me

DID THE MOD BREAK FOR 1.20.9 NO ERRORS BUT WONT LOAD ALL MY GROWBEDS SHOW AS ? MARK BLOCKS

Jayro it is currently not being used. It's a planned feature for more advanced substrates in the future :)

​Hello, I hope you're doing well. I just have a question: how is sawdust used?​

it's amusing; i found this while scrolling the mod lists, idly thinking "man, mushroom farming would be cool" 

eager to throw this in my world and try it out :D

This is excellent! I was considering trying to make something like this myself but I didn't know how to do the code. Glad someone else has done it and saved me the trouble (and it's even pretty realistic with the steps and ingredients used). I haven't actually tried it out yet, but I will surely add it to my server for my community to play with. Thanks for making this!

Your mod aught to be a standard vanilla feature. Its perfect.

sheepon hey feel free to reach out to me on discord! I'd like to help however I can. I've been looking into how mod compatibility works and I'm less sure about which side makes the most sense to implement this on, and I think there might be code changes necessary on my side (not just JSON patches). You can find me through the Substrate mod thread on the discord

queerty Dekkan got in contact with me about your mod today! I've got a couple of free days coming up, so I'll look into adding Mycodiversity compat on my end c: Thanks for making a super cool mushroom mod! I look forward to playing around with it on my next playthrough ^^

Dekkan it can be made to work with modded mushrooms, but they would need to be a compat JSON that adds the necessary attributes to them, otherwise they wouldn't be harvestable into spores, and there wouldn't be spore print items for them.

I can look into doing it on my side, but ideally mods that add mushrooms would add compatibility from their side.

Is there a chance this mod will work for modded mushrooms? Like Mycodiversity mod?

AcidNight fixed!

I just saw that there are no crafts for the fruiting bag and the growing beds, I don't know since when as I had crafted in relation to your video xD

FourEyedMutt Yes, this should be safe to add to an existing world 😁

Excellent work.

Hello! I cant believe growing mushrooms isnt vanilla, Its kinda sad its not. But thanks to you its possible! I just wanted to know if this mod was safe to install on an existing save?

queerty

reee, apartment on paper I have 4 rot now for the bag have to wait a little but I think it's fixed ^^

queerty 

ok I'll test that

AcidNight Just pushed up patch v1.1.1, which changes how rot (and compost) items are resolved in those situations and should fix your issue. Please let me know if that did the trick or if the issue remains- thanks!

queerty

It's not even metal, it's "butterfly brooches (red)" exactly XD and in mods I have quite a few xD here is the list

aculinaryartillery, alchemytrader, allsideshaveresin, Allclasses, ancientarmory, autosifter, bettercrates, scrapblocks, bettersticks, bettertraders, bignailsmold, bloomeryfulldrops, chiseltools, claycasting, combatoverhaul, cryoqol, DiamondTools, elkaggressionnomore, elkmorehealth, extrachests, fairstickrecipe, HoneyPress, immersivecorpsedrop, lightlevelone, millwright, molds, MoreTorchHolders, mushroom, mushroomtrader, RareDenseOres, riflemodredux, Ropebeam, dzsalvagepluspatch, SmokingChimneys, sortablestorage, specificclutter, spyglass, swordzcompat, temporal_gears_stack, translocatorengineeringredux, usefuldrifterloot, game, vsimgui, AbsoluteProspecting, alchemy, animalcages, armory, bedspawnv2, betterruins, biggercellars, blacksmithenhancements, blastfurnace, butchering, butcheringaurochspatch, carryon, charcoalpitdoor, claycrafting, commonlib, compostgrass, configlib, craftableresin, easyprospect, electricity, expandedfoods, fendragonbcs, foodshelves, fromgoldencombs, fruitpressmashfix, gimmeoneseedplz, hudclockpatch, kevinsfurniture, knapster, krpgenchantment, krpgwands, lavoisier, maltiezcrossbows, maltiezfirearms, medievalexpansionpatch, onebedsleeping, oneclickfillbloom, petai, pewter, prospecttogether, recipeselector, respawntools, rustboundmagic, serveressentials, smithingplus, spawnersapi, stillnecessaries, substrate, th3dungeon, traitacquirer, unconscious, vmetp, creative, survival, wildfarmingrevival, workbenchexpansionpatch, battletowers, bttranslocatorsengineeringpatch, cats, tradercamps, electricityaddon, electricityextensions, fruitpresstweaked, helvehammerext, itemrarity, playercorpse, rustboundmagiceasy, rustboundmagicxskills, stonequarry, tpnet, th3dungeontopentrance, thriftysmithing, traitacquireraddon, wolftaming, xskillsallclassespatch, electricityxskillscompatibilitypatch

NullBunny you can still grow them in a cellar! It's just not a requirement (yet)

I love mushrooms and being able to grow them is really fun! I look forward to being able to grow them in my cellar

AcidNight that's a strange one... Am I understanding that you're getting metal of some kind instead of rot? What other mods do you have installed?

you have the youtube links backwards just so you know. I just realized that has been mentioned already though. I do have a question. when you do the spore prints do you have to use 4 of the same mushrooms or can you do multiple different ones at same time on one piece of paper?

dude its perfect

hello, haa I'm going to test this hoping that it also fixes my medal problem xD

Heya! Love the mod! Wanted to let you know that you got your youtube links flip-flopped. Keep up the good work!

Thanks everyone for the feedback! I've got more features in the works, but I wanted to release this minor version a bit ahead of the other changes.

v1.1.0 introduces the Growing Bed and the ability to cultivate and collect spores from ground growing mushrooms!

This version also introduces:

• Two alternate recipes for Sterilized Spore Paper using Diluted Borax or Limewater in place of Aqua Vitae.
• Partial resource refunding when breaking a moldy Fruiting Bag or Growing Bed (returning some of the flax twine or wood boards used to make them)

The next upcoming version will introduce more robust means of reusing Fruiting Bags and Growing Beds by emptying them out and refilling them with substrate, among other things, so stay tuned 😁

queerty

Hello, I think it's a very good mod, but as others have said, it's still usable only at a very advanced stage, especially for brandy. I was surprised to see that the bags, once they reach 0%, break and produce compost, and I assume "rot." Given the price, I think they should be reusable.

Otherwise, I don't know about the others, but since I assumed rot, I don't have any. I have plenty of medals instead. Even when the four mushrooms are supposed to become rot, I have four medals. ><

VaelophisNyx 

go use alchemy ^^

THANK YOU MUCH LOVE. also will there be a dub tub tek in the future? 

I don't think I'm going to make sterilizing optional, but the next update will include (in addition to the ability to cultivate ground growing mushrooms) alternate liquids to Aqua Vitae (limewater and diluted borax) that will mainly just require proportionately more liters and soaking time.

Looks great but I agree that it seems pretty expensive as it is. Maybe making sterility an optional feature where non-sterile substrate/spore prints will grow mold instead of the desired fungus? That could cut down on the distillery cost but making the process much less reliable.

Maybe something like a planter crafted with the substrate mix would work for ground based mushrooms.

Exactly what I needed for my dwarf-inspired playthrough, thanks a lot!

THIS is a good mushroom farming mod. I LOVE IT! Thanks a lot for this ^^

EDIT: I'ld love to see ground growing mushroom faming. Maybe with something similar to the bags but mushrooms grow only on the top face or somthing. At least for now on ❤️

Nice! now if only mushrooms were worth the effort vs crops! :(

Lexingtondavid I haven't tested it on any other versions, but it's based on systems that shouldn't really change from version to version. So I don't know of any reason why it wouldn't work!

Oooh, this looks dope as hell, does this happen to work with 1.20.4? If not, I'll hold off on it until I update the rest of my modlist!

General_JOE I get where you're coming from. I'm open to balance changes as I hear more about people's experience with the mod, but until then you're welcome to adjust the recipes and rewards yourself to tweak the balance more to your liking!

The recipe for the fruiting bag can be found in:

/assets/substrate/recipes/grid/fruitingbag.json 
From there you can swap out the flax twine out for something cheaper, like flax fiber or whatever strikes your fancy.

If you want to adjust the amount of mushrooms provided by the Fruiting Bag before it goes moldy, you can adjust the attributes in:
/assets/substrate/blocktypes/fruitingbag.json

Specifically the maxfert can be increased (for example, doubling that value will double the time Fruiting Bags are fertile, and on average double the output); and/or you can reduce the fertconsumerate values to make fertility get used up at a lower rate.

You can even reduce the amount of time it takes for mushrooms to grow (on average) by reducing the growincrement values in that same file.

I hope that helps!

Repurposing linen sacks into fruiting bags would be a nice alternative. It would give them a purpose once we move onto backpacks. It would also lower the cost of the bag by a couple twine.

Wow! This looks really awesome, I'm excited to try it out.

My only concern after reading the description and watching the demo video is that it just doesn't really seem worth it? Aqua vitae is gated behind getting solder, and having enough excess copper to make a distillery, and the high linen cost of the fruiting bags means you probably won't want to make them while you still need linen for crucial projects like windmills. Also, you already put satiety into the process by distilling berry or grain alcohol into aqua vitae.

All these resources and work and the fruiting bags don't seem to produce nearly enough mushrooms to equal it all out. I feel like if that wasn't the case, this mod could have a really cool niche in enabling underground settlements or creating more "vegetable" type nutrition when you can't grow crops outside. I fear this mod would just end up as more of a novelty when there are way better ways to grow food, or even just gathering mushrooms yourself in the forest.

Seems to be working now on my end! Thanks! I'll be trying this out in my next world.

I'll just be following this mod for now, looking forward to you implementing ground-growing mushrooms!

this is awesome, wish we could do ground based mushrooms too soon, or perhaps a growing bed for them that's simpler? i've grown them easy enough irl with a wood surounded dirt bed and some mushrooms shoved in the dirt haha

I managed to reproduce and fix the issue. Please update to patch version 1.0.1 and thanks for the reports! ElegantChimp and Nebux

I seem to be having the same issues as Nebux, as well as issues placing creatively spawned Imprinted Spore Paper on the Fruiting Bags. I created a new test world with no other mods enabled and created a empty celler and some spawned items to test (Prepared Spore Paper, Imprinted Spore Paper, Fruiting Bags, Mushrooms, and a light). I did all further testing in survial mode. Nothing happens when I try to add mushrooms onto the paper (I am specifically using chicken of the woods and deer ears), other than my toon trying to eat the mushrooms. Specifically, I am placing the paper on the ground, then right click the paper with a propagate mushroom. When I attempt to add Prepared Spore Paper (again chicken of the woods and deer ears) nothing happens as well. I am placing the Fruiting Bags in the center of the cellar (hanging), then following the prompt I shift right click the bag with the spawned Imprinted Spore Paper, and nothing happens. Hope this info can help diagnose the issue. I would love to use your mod. It seems like a good approach for mushroom farming (lightweight but "realistic").

Nebux currently you can only propagate mushrooms that grow on trees. If you're using a mushroom that grows on the ground the spore paper won't accept it.

nice!

Always nice to see a new mushroom cultivation mod hit the db!  

can't place mushrooms on a spore paper

Been looking for ways to get Mushrooms like this! Seeing some growing off my cellar or cave walls/floor will make this really nice in the future, i'll be watching this one 👀

I 100% agree with Whisper there, I was starting up a server and earlier a friend asked if you could cultivate mushrooms.

💯

Wow this could not have come at a better timing. I was JUST looking for a mod like this for my new server. I'm also working on my own first mod as well, so cheers to the both of us going forward!