helmets gonna go thru major redesign but I guess it could be intrenting so maybe I will it some time later

Think we can get a visored version for Lupines mod?

done. it should be fixed now

Rose_Thorne thanks for finding the incompatibility

So I have been doing some testing and this mod seems to be what is causing the broken recipes
https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/11264

send me on ds or screenshot to imgur modlist maybe I will find it and fix it.

ds octan8741

Ok, so I just tested it with no other mods and it works fine, so it seems to be a mod conflict with another mod I have

I am running quite a few other mods so that might be the issue.
How am I suppossed to make the gold alloy nuggets? You mentioned that I would need to make those to get the ingots but the nuggets dont have any recipe to get them besides chiseling other ancient gold stuff in my handbook. I also looked at your screenshot for the ancient gold ingot handbook page and mine looks completely different.
here are screenshots of the ways to get the bits in the handbook and the ingot page
https://imgur.com/a/mrtyNey
EDIT: yes I have 1.1.4 downloaded and do you have any idea what types of mods might conflict with one? I have another mod called forlorn additions that also adds forlorn hope armor but I dont think it would affect the ingots or bits from this mod since it only adds armor

https://imgur.com/a/6Qy6O2F

indeed its strange that you cant see the recipies. maybe other mods are in conflict. what mods are you running?

cause it should look like in thew screena, and u have 1.1.4?

The ancient gold has no recipe though, so I cant make any

its in your screen. on ancient powder screnshot. alloy for ancient gold nugget. just make 100 units of it and pour it inot ingot mold

https://imgur.com/a/q9nA6Ag 
I think that link should work? It shows screenshots of my handbook

Octaninc How do you make the ancient gold using the ancient powder? There is no way to make the bar according to the handbook and there is also no way to make the bits besides deconstucting the other ancient gold stuff
The same applies to the meteor powder
it wont let me attach screenshots for some reason

I quite like how it turned out but I still need to finish I dont even remeber what

https://imgur.com/a/HfbdEEw

I didnt play vs recently maybe the new update broke something. I will look into that

edit: I checked everything works just fine.

for bonding powder you need to dissolve it in water in barrels to make ancient powder and its also part of the hardened meteoric iron alloy. and meteoric powder is part of that alloy. currently its only used to make the spear but I made and armor that requires it and maybe i will do an update to release it dunno when

Hey so I have been having issues with the mod in my worlds. There is no way to make the ancient gold or hardened meteoric iron that I can find. The bonding powder is smelted into itself, and has no recipe to craft ancient gold, and the meteoric powder also just smelts into itself and cannot be made into the bars.

it was not meant to be worn with chainmail, its my bad I didnt disable it. maaybe I will change it

with combat overhaul, some pieces glitch with all your armors

Resserfi what is wrong with it?

Looks like hardened meteoric iron spear is kinda bugged...

that would be pretty cash money of you

Um I cant make the models bigger cause then all armor would look way bulkier and I definitly wont do it but instead I will ask maltiez cause I am pretty sure there is a way to patch this so when the armor is worn the armor underneath is hidden and the problem will no longer be an issue

@Octaninc (ok clearly i dont know how to mention someone) These models are lovely, well done.

I wanted to bring to your attention that when using the armour layering system from combat overhaul the other armours clip through most of the model, which is a tragedy.

How much work is it to fix something like that?

I understand, thank you.

one alloy is ancient gold that is required to make the armors and second one is steel tier alloy that is required to make 1 weapon for now but i am in the middle of making armor that requires it. But its not a bad idea to expand the uses for it to falxes and maybe other weapons

what are the alloys added? and are they only used for the forlorn hope armor or could they be used for something else like a falx?

fixed

Yay thanks!!!!

Well. I forgot to add it .I will drop the update in like 3hours  then with the repair recipe aaaand new variant of the spear using new material.

I have a question: why forlon healer doesnt has a repair recipe?

Octaninc

If you want get in contact with me on dc I think I could add a forlorn hope randomizer so you or I could patch your items into that one so if you mod is active alongside betterruins your items can spawn in those randomizers aswell.

BobEdJones nope 2 totally diffrent mods but I dont think there are going to be any conflicts bettween the 2.

_MagnusTheGreat_ Yup i learned how to code in json by borrowing and looking at others code XD

Octaninc I mean hey "borrowing" code is a staple for every programmer :3

Is this compatible with Forlorn Additions? 

yea its more like i need time to build them or alterantivly ask the better ruins guys If I can just "borrow" theirs and change it to be more forlorn hope XD

Octaninc Oh alright, is it also sold by the luxury trader? Also if you manage to figure that out that would be awesome!

for now also from trader for a goooood price. I hope in the near future I will figure out a way to get them to spawn in ruins and make so if u have better ruins mod this "special recipe" items will be as reward for their questline

@Octaninc How do you get the Forlorn Proportions Table? I know the envelope should be obtainable from luxury traders but how do you get the Table for the Ancient Powder Bonding Mix recipe?

yea sure

Octaninc  Would it be okay if used your shapes and textures in my npc mods? I am currently working on some factions, one being Forlorn Hope and your armors and weapons would help make them more varied in looks.

I know that the new armor icons are bugged but i have no idea how to repair it

i also think the armors might be too op so feedback would be appriciated

Oh that would be cool, always love when crafting recipes arent in the 3x3 crafting grid. If you make it peaceable on the ground you might be able to have it spawn as part of the ruin but that would require you to make a new ruin like what Better Ruins does. I am not a modder though so that is just my guess.

yea I agree I was planning to add some kind of barrel crafting so u need to add specific amount of something to get it, but latly I dont have time to do that but I will get to it. Also I wanted that there is a chance so forlorn powder reciepe can be found in forlorn ruins but i have no idea ho to make something spawn in specific ruin

@Octaninc Oh alright I just wasn't sure how rare it was supposed to be and I couldn't find it in my tests so I figured I would just mention it. I am running a lot of mods and a number of them add items to the luxury trader so it is more diluted than normal so maybe that is why I didn't see anything. I would recommend adding an alternative recipe because relying on RNG on a trader that is already rare makes it a bit frustrating in my opinion. Great mod otherwise!

they are indeed quite rare but I got them on my singleplayer and server normally. if its a bug I dont have any idea how to fix it. its like 15 lines of code to add forlorn envelope to the trader list to I think its totally random how often they sell it. Also I know obtaining it is a pain so i will probably add alternative way to get it.

Hey, I did some testing to try to get some of the envelopes, but after spawning like 30 luxury merchants, none of them had it. What are the chances it is in their inventory? The handbook also doesn't list it as being sold or obtained in any way so I am not sure if it is just bugged but it does not seem to be obtainable. 

Just found out about the vanilla Forlorn Hope stuff, and I love it. And then I found this mod that adds more, simply amazing!

I don't see a git for bug reporting. 

Current bug. The melting temperature is 1320 °C, and the handbooks say 1060 °C. To smelt it you have to heat it once, then stick it back and reheat it to 1320c

Update. I see you have already patched this. thank you

you should add the weapon tag btw.

In the mod there is a simple exoskeleton and an armored version (iron, meteoric iron, steel) It would be cool to have a forlorn version if possible 😁

With special effect, perhaps

u mean forlorn exoskeleton? Well I dont play on this mod but will look into it now I am amaking heavy verison of forlorn armor

Please

Exoskeleton version to be a forlorn hope monster 😁 

https://mods.vintagestory.at/exoskeletons

pretty cool

oh i see the combat overhaul. I will fix it in a minute

edit:done

Really Cool! maybe some matching elk acessories???

Woah.

Please make an exoskeleton version 😁

respect on the hussar style, still waiting for someone to make some epic heavy knight style forlorn. i'd make some myself but i dont have a inkling on how to make them lolol

heh, boob armor

I dont rly know how to get it to spawn on armor stands so its crafted from prestine forlone. maybe in the future I will try for it to be in the better ruins forlon structure or something

F yeah i love this, can this be crafted or just found?
Team Forlorn hope!