🔌 Electrical Progressive: Core

This mod doesn't seem to like to work with the mechanical generators of https://mods.vintagestory.at/ppe

Normal VS mechanical power seems to work fine, I can power a helve hammer at super speed with the steam power of that mod. But if I try and connect it to a generator, then it just grinds to a hault.

There’s no 'vibe coding' here. Artificial intelligence is used for code optimization — that is, it only suggests ways to speed up process handling. The actual code is written by us. You’re mixing up concepts and clearly don’t understand what vibe coding really entails. If you don’t want to use our mod, no one is forcing you. Go ahead, write your own, and do whatever you want.

I think theres a big difference between just vibecoding and getting help from AI WITH vibecoding. I am not gonna say vibecoding is good, I'm gonna say thats if there is transparency and commitment from the modder of using it in the correct way (copy pasting, learning/searching solutoin) and so on, and i see how many updated it did, personally would have much less problems, because 99% of problems are just incompetent modders, vibecoding or not.

This is also one of the mods that has a changelog on discord I can check

Vinyl_Synth It's always easier to suggest something than to create something yourself. If you can create a beautiful logo, do it. We'll see.

Thanks for making such a great mod (and series of mods)! Sorry you're getting such unnecessary flak over a free contribution to a community that no one who dislikes it has any obligations to interact with. I hope you don't let it discourage you! 

gg

DASH_RABBIT Thanks for the feedback. You can call us whatever you want—it's your right.

lovely mod, thank you 💙 for something so huge I'm surprised how good it is

ew AI slop

Leuc Does this matter? I wrote the mod from scratch, but I don't know programming 100%. Some of the source code was modified by AI to suit my needs. Some code wasn't written by me at all. In any case, I put it through a huge number of tests and checks before releasing it. Performance is at its best. As an AI tool, it works great, but in the right hands. Do I have the right hands? Yes.

KatoSaieshh I think whatever genai they used to code this mod doesn't understand electricity.

I notice you have a GenAI cover for this mod.

How much of the code was initially generated with AI?

As of 1.21.6 the electrical logic in this mod is broken:  Instead of experiencing voltage drop across long runs, current in a given circuit is seen decreasing between the source and load.  This is wildly inaccurate.  Also the generation and load calculations for the electrical network are inaccurate;  Generation rate can exceed the consumption rate and battery banks will somehow still discharge.  Something is fundamentally wrong with the electrical model and desperately needs to get fixed so it stops breaking both Kirchhoff's current law and the law of conservation of energy.  These are fundamental physical laws that must not be bent or broken.

Also, adding an entire ohm of resistance per block for wires is wildly excessive.  0.02 ohms per block would be realistic for a 5 amp conductor.  (0.005 ohms per block for a 20 amp conductor.)

agreed, please maintain 1.21.6 support! so many mods not moving to the new beta build, pls dont break our mod lists 🙏 thank you for your work!

Please keep supporting 1.21.6 until the stable relese! 

originsofolympus yes

is there anyway to pass electricity thru walls other then metal blocks? Metal blocks are pretty damn expensive, it seems like overkill when all you really need is a little strip of metal. 

can this mod be added to an already existing world?

so could you post the same mod (and others for electricity) but for prev versions? or whats the plan

twisterr Because I don't guarantee that it will work on previous versions.

why would you remove previous game versions compat lmao 

Would very much like to see this add in steam power as well. Great work. 

Hey, I kinda liked the old original electricty switch flipper, could we perhaps get different switch models to add some variation around our homes? Im not sure how difficult this would be or if it would be a waste of your time, but I thank you for your consideration, also btw, this mod is amazing thank you for helping keep it up to date :D

Oniii Yes. It's safe. It won't affect the world in any way.

Q_qTip Maybe later

Hi, is these mods safe to add / remove mid playthrough?

Maybe it would be good to include context stats - ie for generators/motors to include calculation based on topography - ie. resistance( if Im getting it right it dynamic based on how much load there is - which may impact rpm, fi I undersdtand correctly?)

Looks like you have drawn the attention of many electricians and electrical engineers to your mod... Now you better keep updating it fast to meet their demands!



You should add overhead powerlines like in the minecraft mod electricalage for carrying large amounts of power over vast distances.

To do this you would have to modify the current in game transformer so you can set the amount of windings on each end

for example a winding fraction of 1 > 113 or (1 winding at the input / 113 windings at the output) for 120v will result in a voltage of 13500 volts or near residental powerline voltage before it is stepped down for the wiring in the home's main panel.

Here is my suggestion

A smaller Tier 1 powerline for carrying around 13500 volts and up to around 1200 amps before being overloaded when they deliver power to buildings in a city etc.

a larger Tier 2 powerline that would have it's own seperate large substation transformer you would place which would step up voltage by a 1 > 16 ratio so

the larger Tier 2 powerline for carrying power at around 216000 volts and around 19200 amps before being overloaded.

Could you add a higher voltage for power transmission purposes? Maybe 256 or something, that no machine can use and requires heavy, expensive cables?

Can you make an air conditioner and/or walk in freezer to cool down rooms? Basiclly reverse heater/greenhouse. So tropical places can stay cool or you can make cold cellars.Thanks!

I have a suggestion for the mod. 

Junction Boxes

I want to be able to criss cross wires of lower and higher voltages to send diffrent wires to diffrent circuits.

Ok Electrial Transmission over wires is much better since the update, but it is still not as fast it should be like it is in real life. All the lights in a room like my basement in the game should come on all at the same time in less than 1 second.

See if you can fix the issue that causes lights to take about 60 seconds to come on when a switch is flipped with a wire about 30 blocks long.

Lights and most powered devices like in real life should come on INSTANTLY!!!

DokDirge There might be a conflict with another mod, causing the logs to spam with errors, causing the game to lag. Check AppData\Roaming\VintagestoryData\Logs for the server-main and client-main files.

Hello, I'm very new to VS's modding scene so my issue is very likely on my end.

With the whole Electrical Progressive suite of mods installed, I'm getting two major bugs: firstly my game lags terribly, to the point my gameworld doesnt render sometimes while walking ~200 blocks away from my home base and is just a blank void, with a small message in the upper right corner of the screen saying my connection to the server has been lost (I only play singleplayer) and secondly the lag is so bad that often my character cant walk over items to pick them up (i.e. cutting leaves to drop a stick leaves the stick on the ground for several seconds before its auto added to inventory if at all).

I have a whole host of other mods I play with, so maybe there's a conflict somewhere or I have too many installed? The funny thing is these issues have shown up and I havent crafted any of the blocks added by the EP mods, I started a brand new game. Disabling the EP mods, and only the EP mods, clears the issues up.

Alhef Metal blocks conduct electricity without disturbing the integrity of the room.

Is there any way to conceal the cables within a block, or to create a block that doesn't compromise the integrity of the sealed rooms?

I just found this mod. This is insane :o good job guys this is sooo dang cool

Phant0mCobra Yes. You can install it at any time.

Ignore the salty hater. AI is fine for stuff like a simple icon.

Onto the question. Is this and all related Electrical Progressive mods able to be added in midgame?

paulogabbi nah, it looks bad and is just bad. the icon is indicitive of how much effort was placed in the thing, and ai is the lowest effort garbage, and therefore has the message of not being worth anyones time
infact ive given this too much effort already just typing all this

PasiveClientSE5 oh shut up AI is totally fine for stuff like this

the edit button doesnt seem to be working, so i guess ill say it here: just to be clear, even i'd've be willing to help if i happened to have been the person gone to instead of the ai, ive made my own couple of mods for servers i host for my friends and none of them have an ai icon (not that an icon matters that much for a currently private mod)

i can assure you i could make a decent icon in about 10 minutes and in less then 100 line strokes on a free web based drawing software

tehtelev if you want a logo looking icon, you should really either do it yourself, or ask a friend, or just anyone really, im certain if you just asked a real person before going to some ai someone would have been glad to help
a couple minutes in mspaint by anybody will result in something better than the current (honestly weird looking) icon made by a theft machine.

though for consideration, i believe mod icons should showcase what the mod is to a degree, so for mods that add content a screenshot of the stuff they add with a title added over top would be great. and for this core mod specifically, maybe take a piece out of all the other mods that need this and put in simple white text "Core" over the middle, the most time and effort consuming part of this idea would just be opening the game up and setting all the blocks up

PasiveClientSE5 If you draw an icon better than the AI, we'll accept it. We don't have any artists.

The mods overall seems quite promising, hopefully some more effort will be put in, especially given that icon that reaks of lazy ai slop

Taxseasonisover Check the bug on the latest version of the mod. I tried to fix it.

Modeversion 2.3.2 game version 1.21.1

Taxseasonisover Please tell me the game version and mod version.

some of my guys are running into issues interacting with wires and geothermal generator 

I was just able to recreate it myself placing some 32v iron insolated cable, 

we love the mod, keep up the great work!

28.9.2025 02:10:18 [Server Event] Player Taxseasonisover got removed. Reason: Threw an exception at the server
28.9.2025 02:10:18 [Server Error] Exception: Exception of type 'System.Exception' was thrown.
   at ElectricalProgressive.Utils.Selection.get_Face() in C:\Users\tehtelev\source\repos\tehtelev\ElectricalProgressive\ElectricalProgressive-Core\Utils\Selection.cs:line 125
   at ElectricalProgressive.Content.Block.ECable.BlockECable.DoPlaceBlock(IWorldAccessor world, IPlayer byPlayer, BlockSelection blockSelection, ItemStack byItemStack) in C:\Users\tehtelev\source\repos\tehtelev\ElectricalProgressive\ElectricalProgressive-Basics\Content\Block\ECable\BlockECable.cs:line 102
   at Vintagestory.API.Common.Block.TryPlaceBlock(IWorldAccessor world, IPlayer byPlayer, ItemStack itemstack, BlockSelection blockSel, String& failureCode) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Collectible\Block\Block.cs:line 857
   at Vintagestory.Server.ServerSystemBlockSimulation.TryModifyBlockInWorld(ServerPlayer player, Packet_ClientBlockPlaceOrBreak cmd) in VintagestoryLib\Server\Systems\World\BlockSimulation.cs:line 580
   at Vintagestory.Server.ServerSystemBlockSimulation.HandleBlockPlaceOrBreak(Packet_Client packet, ConnectedClient client) in VintagestoryLib\Server\Systems\World\BlockSimulation.cs:line 409
   at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.HandleClientPacket_mainthread(ReceivedClientPacket cpk) in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMainNetworking.cs:line 280
   at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.ProcessMain() in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMain.cs:line 934

Juniormint

 Drop your game logs - I'll take a look. It might be slowing down because the server is throwing errors into the logs. Maybe some mod is conflicting

It seems I cannot run this series of mods despite how much I want to. For whatever reason, when this set of mods are loaded (particularly the freezer) it causes random and inexplicable lag spikes. Disabling the freezer mod fixes this issue every time. I start receiving lag spikes from freshly spawn and happens every 10 or 20 seconds. No settings I change helps this however reducing view distance can help a little, for a short time at least.  These spikes start off lasting roughly 1 or 2s and continue until you are waiting 3-5 seconds. They are fairly regular in frequency and are solely isolated to this mod. Perhaps there is a mod conflict but I do not know what it would be. It is honestly sad to me as I love this mod set as a nice way to produce and transport power efficiently, however the lag makes it completely unbearable.

ThePrawnSean

 Metal blocks conduct electricity without compromising the tightness of the rooms. This is specified in the Basics module

The biggest issue (imo) is not being able to pass wires through walls (at least not that I can see) without unsealing the room the wire is passing through (therefore your base). This is fine during the summer, but in winter this is a death sentence.

Q_qTip

The transformer windings are made so purely visually. They are not tied to the sides and voltages with which you connect them to the wires. In fact, the transformer changes the voltage of the packets of energy passing through it. And it does not matter from which side and where they go.

Then gradually new devices and, accordingly, new voltages will be added.

As for the stove - the upper part is not functional, although you can put objects on it. Due to the fact that I plan to make the stove the same as the oven in 2.0.0, the ability to automatically load and unload products with chutes, then frying meat 2x2 will not be so necessary in fact.

tehtelev Thank you for explanation.
1. Not sure if you looked at drive I shared. What I meant is that even though Im 100% sure I set it properly, transformer is somehow inverted. Transformer has low and high coil side. In case of this mod, one low coil, and apparently 3 high coil sides. So Id assume it has 3 high voltage output/input and one low - because thats essentially what it means in real life. If voltage/currenty enters low coil side, voltage is bumped, current goes down. In my case, Im 100% sure I was careful and set it up properly, so I set up one high side at 128V side(large batteries) and low side against fridge section. However it somehow fliped 180 and low side is connected to 128V section and high side is connected to fridge section - yet it works and fridge did not blow up.
2. Might have missed it, but esseentially split my generator section into two different, without a loop in the middle, as I thought this might be a problem. As to generator glitch Im failry sure its because transformer( I think I moved it back and it worked yday) connected corner to corner with either battery or generator.
3. Yep, thats what I did. Any plans for HV/UHV ?
4. Yeah, thats the problem, that was input.


As I possibly said, its my first world and its not vanilla, so Im working out details, especially mod on how-tos. Spent waaay to much time figuring out how to use electric stove - it does not help you can put meat in 2x2 pattern on top of it....

Q_qTip

1. Yes. Everything is correct. The transformer works in both directions, which means the network in which it works is considered a single one. That is, if devices on the low side require energy and it is on the high side, then it will go from there. And vice versa, respectively. In principle, this does not contradict real laws.
2. The mod manual says that it flows along the shortest distance to the consumer. That is, if your batteries are closer and their power and charge are sufficient, then the batteries will give off energy. As soon as the generator starts to discharge, it will have to try to charge these batteries. If the batteries are also discharged, then the consumers will be powered directly from the generators. If, however, the generator on the windmill does not want to give out energy, then break it and reinstall it. In a game with a bunch of mods, there are jokes in mechanics. In your case, it is better to connect the batteries not in series, but a little differently.

3. There is still a problem here. When one transformer is no longer enough, it is better to divide the circuits into several independent of each other.

4. Current is 20A, this is essentially the maximum current at the output of the transformer, based on the operating algorithm.

If you still think that everything still does not work as it should, especially in point 2, then you can update to 2.0.0-rc4. It is already stable. Maybe I have already fixed something there

I think, unless Im doing something wrong, I discovered 3 bugs( aside that parasite drain).
1. One might be artefact from upgrade between versions - or mod does not care, but essentially low coil on hight voltage side, translates into workign equipment on high coil low voltage side.
2. Some sort of interference cause generator to just not connect to network, unless its a battery adjacent to it. Important thing is that if battery is empty, it will drive current from net into itself, but wont send it down.
3. This might be offshoot of #2. I had set up single transformator, but due to size of bats downrange, it just burnt out, so I set up two, but unless I separated inputs into two( without loop among generators, one transformator was just not working, If I split input gens 50/50, both work(sort of) given #2.
4. ish - max amperage on transformator is not specified as in or out?

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WVlhIe1k_VMeaedxWlJZbkMBVYWyOZS

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EDIT: after I had to kill VS to be able to upload images and logged in again... that generator does work it seems( without batter on its side) so it might be some UI bug ?

@tehtelev
Oh, Im fairly sure thats not right. Either endpoint will burn to crisp or not trigger( with slight parasitic drain) due to lack of going over activation threshold.  Granted, my assumption leans on commons sense and not having leads shorted, like in good old USSR
Low voltage protection is a thing. True, if endpoint was simple engine from 1950s, it might just try to drain and expel heat in exchange, but batteries have protection against bad env - ie, even in solar arrays.

EDIT: as to this particular case. The problem here is that there was no indication of drain. Current did not spike, consumed wattage was at normal level. Either having that equipment dont work/spark with too low voltage or have network indicate drain somehow.
Awesome that RPM is a stat now.

Q_qTip

 If you simply connect 32V to devices that require 128V, absolutely nothing will happen. That is, they will consume energy, but will not function. In reality, in principle, the same

@tehtelev cool.

One thing Ive noticed. It might be change between 1.0.5 and 1.1.0 - AFAIR description state "max voltage 128" - maybe it does somewhere(still) or its just my assumption, regardless. This can cause unindented consequnce, if someone put large batter or charge station on 32V network. Despite positive W generation, network will bleed dry. Im almost 100% sure that if one store drill in fridge, result might be the same?

Q_qTip

 I think by the end of the week I will release a stable version 2.0.0 already.

@ tehtelev
1.0.5. I guess I should bump to 2.rc4 ?

EDIT: bumped to 1.1.0 and it seems to work now properly. Thanks.

Q_qTip

What version of the mod? Screenshots? In rc3 there is a bug in displaying information about the network and its section due to incorrect synchronization with the server part. In rc4 it will be fixed. In any case, the circuit should work now. 

Im about to set up my first power grid under my mill but it seems .... it wont happen. Ive scroughed enough resources to build upgraded gens/engines. Even some transformers for later expansion. So... my consumption base is rought 60 blocks away from generators. Gens put out 3.5A more or less. All connected( but tested with 128V + trans) with 32V cables. As long as battery is up close - 6 blocks away. It will charge. Down below - no joy. Here is the kicker. Regardless of setup:
- its recognized properly as to elements on net
- I get shocked if cable is un-insulated event 60 blocks away
- current indication show it will flow only about 6 blocks away from generator
- given above and in-game doc - Ive tried to put battery as buffer, but no joy


So WTF?

Have you considered adding an electrically powered kiln? And maybe for QOL, a solid block that wires can go through (for electricity in spaces that can register as rooms)?

endey The comments are good. We may have corrected some of the things you wrote, and we will correct some soon. Keep in mind that in slow mode, the current does not turn off instantly. It still goes along the wires for some time. The same goes for turning on long circuits, for example, from lanterns - it takes some time for the current to reach the consumer. If all this is difficult for you, you can turn on the instantaneous energy transfer mode in the configuration file. It works the same way as in Electricity. Also, generators no longer produce energy if there is no consumer, that is, no load. Excess energy in a real electrical system is always bad.

possible issues ive encountered:

subgrids (grids seperated by a switch) do not update properly when the switch is closed again. (i.e. i have a street row of standing lamps. i can disconnect them by opening the switch, but closing it again will not turn the lamps back on.)

transformers exceed the 100% limit when placed with another transformer on the same grid or subgrid, with an equal or higher load for them to bear. (likely due to the transformers trying to split the load, but due to uneven calculations, one transformer carries more power than the other.)

communication of power demand/load is abit unclear.

with the prior electricity mod, i could see when a subgrid was properly disconnected, but with this mod, the load and generation seems visually stiff. i hope this gets improved in the future.

switches should be placable by directly clicking the wire, its quite annoying trying to figure out what quadrant i need to click for the switch to be placed correctly.

copper blocks do not transmit power into connected consumers directly placed on them.

the doubling/stacking of wires feels very annoying to work around in tighter spaces. if possible, clicking on the wire directly to double/stack the wire would be appreciated.

standing lamps often require a world reload in order for their light emissions to update. but all other light blocks do not.

if possible, why not have standing lamps work at all voltages? lower voltages produce lower amounts of light, just add a readable minimum threshold.

breaking wires connected to a grid/subgrid, but leading nowhere, can turn off parts of the subgrid.

this is just what ive experienced, and it may not be true to what is intended. just hoping to give some feedback.

ASpy

 This is a game bug that happens sometimes.

I think I found a bug. When using a wire connection through a diagonal wall to transfer electricity generated outside a room to inside a room, engines in the room draw electricity without spinning. Switches in the room still connect and disconnect engines from the electrical network the way you would expect.

Setting "Instant" to true in the config file resolves the bug but removes challenge features of the mod. The bug may exist for other consumers as well but I haven't tested it.

Only thing I can think of is an electric panning device of some kind. Outside that, love this in the end game.

SLEDGE_HAMMER

 Funny bug)

BUG with placing ore chunks and crystals on surfaces, can not be placed.

I had just these mods loaded, and they were causing the issue.

finally it came

Afroman726Ototinhoowlloverhoot We are trying. Thanks for support.

Thank you so much for this mod!! :D

Please keep updating it me and my friends love it! 

This mod is starting to look a bit like Mekanism. And I'm all on it!

I play a fair amount of Monifactory (a gregtech fork) SO WHEN I SAW THIS I AUDIBLY GASPED!

I will definitely be adding this to my new single player world, THANK YOU SO MUCH!

been looking for stuff like this for a WHILE

Kew

 I will make a separate patch and instructions for it so that this can be done.

Is it possible to upgrade from ElectrictyAddon on an existing save?

Hydromancerx If someone makes compatibility or offers code on GitHub - we will not refuse. At the moment, we do not have time and people to do this.

HaraiseTenshi

 I think you can already try playing with the mod.

Will this mod eventually be able to have synergy with Vintage Engineering mod?

Okay got it :)

Then I will keep following it and await the go ahead to use it for playing :)

HaraiseTenshi I highly recommend not playing with it. There are no crashes or bugs now, but performance optimization is needed. With a large number of electrical units, there may be micro freezes. I am already working on this issue.

So I guess I should not yet be using this mod in an actualy playing world but only in Testworlds? Or how stably is this beta test running? Should I expect frequent crashes or a somewhat stable gameplay albeit witu occasional errors/bugs/wobly behaviour?

tehtelev Yes, I was not implying that any of what I suggested would not work based on energy production.

Damn, I love to hear that. I'll try it out on a test world.

Moby_ Power/hanging lines will have to be made with slightly different mechanics. But in the future it will be.

Moby_ Yes. Everything that could be put into this library was moved out. Besides, not all the functionality that I would like is implemented in the library yet. There is still a lot of work to do. But you will still have to look at examples of working with the library in blocks.

XurxoMF This mod is more dependent on the Electricity mod and is incompatible with it. It has absorbed all the best. The logic of the work has been rewritten almost completely.

Does this mod have something to do with the old Electricity mod or is 100% independent? If so, god, I was beggin for a mod like this!

omg, I have yet to try this but I must say: you're a hero for separating the electricity library from the basic blocks

I'll definitely be developing mods using this (unless like, it doesn't work or something, but I think it does)

Also, about automation, I've been talking with someone about an analytic engine mod (to add a turing-complete computer, with architecture handling and assembly programming), we've been thinking about ways to give it more functionality by interacting with other mods, sounds like we got an answer :D

Also, do you have plans to add hanging wires? (maybe using the vanilla cloth/rope system)
It could be really cool for faster/long distance electricity transmission (which could even allow telegraph lines to be built maybe)

Tisajokt Again - pistons must work on some energy, logic circuits too. I would not like to slide down to children's Minecraft. And in general, the redstone system there is terribly inconvenient.

Very interested in the logic/automation system in the roadmap, since I'd love to see VS be made Turing-complete; though logic systems could probably be simulated earlier on in the roadmap if a simple electrically-driven switch, clutch, transistor, or block-pushing piston was added?

InquisitorB The wires are being crafted. Make sure that you have downloaded the EP: Basics mod part with basic devices. This page contains only the electrical logic library.

How are the wires going to be crafted? Casting? Anvil?

AcidNight Name the file fr.json and put it in the same folder and start the game again. Localization will be adjusted automatically

Hello, I just finished the French translation. I don't know if I can test it in advance by just putting it in the folder, or if I need to do something. Is there only one language folder per mod? I've seen some with multiple folders.

Here is the link to the GitHub for the translation:
https://github.com/AcidNight00/AcidNight/blob/main/VS_Electrical_Progressive_fr

ElegantChimp Yes. For calculations, instant transfer is easier. And maybe someone doesn't want to make the game so difficult for themselves. Added a video.

What are the down sides to instant speed of electricity? It seems like instant would make sense (90% the speed of light and all that). Is this implemented for performance purposes or due to being in beta? Also, the road map seems to reference videos. I would be curious to take a look at them, but I can't seem to find them.

This is amazing!
I knew you were working on a full rewrite of the electricity mod, and this looks great. I am personally excited how you are splitting the mod into seporate sub-mods (I personally like to pick and choose features whereever possible). I'll definitely grab it for beta testing and run it for a bit to see if I run into any issues.