⚙️ Electrical Progressive: Basics

Is there a wiki to introduce this series of mods

NoizMakyr It's impossible to hide the wires. But I have some ideas about that. As soon as I have more free time, I'll definitely do something about it.
As for the models, we have a certain set of animation models for future development, but the person who worked on them can't do it yet. And I don't know how to make models.

Hey, great work on this mod pack!  It is stunningly built and offers so much unique flavor to the game :)

I thought I remembered this being an option but couldn't find it: are there ways to hide the cables/wires in this mod or make them invisible?  Also, if one wanted to edit the look of the generators/motors to be a bit more "in theme" with the game's aesthetic, would that be possible?  I'd be down to offer suggestions or examples.

LDP487 Are there any errors in the logs?

Hi, I have everything installed.. I've double checked all versions and game version as well as all dependencies. When I load my Creative world there are no errors or warnings, however, when I attempt to get any item from the "Basics" mod, they don't appear in Creative list of items and I can't "giveitem" command it either. All the other mod items from the other mods (e.g. generators, wires etc) are there, but the Basics things like Electrician's Kit, Wire Cutters etc are all missing.

The handbook entries for these items exist, just not the actual items themselves. I've troubleshooted this for 30mins and I can't work out what is wrong.

tehtelev

Wyntr Read the latest patches—it's a game bug. I've already suggested a fix.

So, there seems to be some kind of strange jumbled texture issue inside of the motors/generators. Is this just me or have others experienced this? I am using like 30 mods on 1.22-rc.8, so it might be a conflict, but i just thought i should say something...

enmaenma This is only for update 1.22

Hey!

First off great mod, its been fun and I've been using it on a server with some friends. Defenitely appreciated how plug and play it is. 

I just had a question regarding how you set up floating cables like in the last picture with the street lamps. Thank you and keep up the good work.

hizokuto Use the Signals mod with addons to automate our mod.

It'd be fair to have lights can turn on based on a timer or daylight sensor. I also only want to have Electric Heaters turn on during the coldest part of the nights for supporting a greenhouse.
There are no thermostats, timers, or light sensors for some simple automation to save electricity. The Electric Stove and Furnace have QoL features.

Could there be bright lights that allow underground farming? The street ground lamp seems to be bright enough but it takes up more space than the lamps.

BlueSamoyed Generators and motors don't look in the direction you're looking. You need to aim at the edge of the block, and depending on which part of the edge you're aiming at, that's where the shaft will be turned.

placing the generators and motors leads to what feels like random orientations even when placing from the same direction in 1.26, is it just me?

i found a bug on my dedicated server with placinganything from the mod other than wires the server kicks you places the block and dupes it when you place one. this is latest 1.21.6 btw

upon furthure testing the place block after crashing becomes non functional and just drains power really fast
also if you could make stuff placable on chiseled blocks

Found if you break a thermoelectric generator in mod version 3.0.0 rc3 it crashes the client to desktop

Update: Seems to happen with freezers and other items as well, also the charger cant be removed and makes a constant ringing after a while.

12.3.2026 18:20:52 [Server Error] Exception: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at ElectricalProgressive.Content.Block.ETermoGenerator.BlockEntityETermoGenerator.OnBlockRemoved() in C:\Users\tehtelev\source\repos\tehtelev\ElectricalProgressive\ElectricalProgressive-Basics\Content\Block\ETermoGenerator\BlockEntityETermoGenerator.cs:line 769
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerWorldMap.RemoveBlockEntity(BlockPos pos) in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerWorldMap.cs:line 530
at Vintagestory.API.Common.Block.OnBlockRemoved(IWorldAccessor world, BlockPos pos) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Collectible\Block\Block.cs:line 1352
at Vintagestory.Common.BlockAccessorBase.SetSolidBlockInternal(Int32 blockId, BlockPos pos, IWorldChunk chunk, Boolean synchronize, Boolean relight, ItemStack byItemstack) in VintagestoryLib\Common\API\BlockAccessorBase.cs:line 122
at Vintagestory.API.Common.Block.SpawnDropsAndRemoveBlock(IWorldAccessor world, BlockPos pos, IPlayer byPlayer, Single dropQuantityMultiplier) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Collectible\Block\Block.cs:line 1108
at Vintagestory.API.Common.Block.OnBlockBroken_Patch1(Block this, IWorldAccessor world, BlockPos pos, IPlayer byPlayer, Single dropQuantityMultiplier)
at Vintagestory.GameContent.BlockMultiblock.OnBlockBroken(IWorldAccessor world, BlockPos pos, IPlayer byPlayer, Single dropQuantityMultiplier) in VSEssentials\Block\BlockMultiblock.cs:line 280
at Vintagestory.API.Common.CollectibleObject.OnBlockBrokenWith(IWorldAccessor world, Entity byEntity, ItemSlot itemslot, BlockSelection blockSel, Single dropQuantityMultiplier) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Collectible\Collectible.cs:line 721
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerSystemBlockSimulation.TryModifyBlockInWorld(ServerPlayer player, Packet_ClientBlockPlaceOrBreak cmd) in VintagestoryLib\Server\Systems\World\BlockSimulation.cs:line 597
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerSystemBlockSimulation.HandleBlockPlaceOrBreak(Packet_Client packet, ConnectedClient client) in VintagestoryLib\Server\Systems\World\BlockSimulation.cs:line 410
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.HandleClientPacket_mainthread(ReceivedClientPacket cpk) in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMainNetworking.cs:line 277
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.ProcessMain() in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMain.cs:line 961

New Update causes Missing textures on QOL for some reason.

Made an issue report on github.

tehtelev I have the Core, Basics, QoL, and the Equipment addons

Arkdirfe Let's fix it. The through-hole connector is positioned the same way as the generators. You need to precisely aim it at the desired part of the edge, and then it will rotate either vertically or sideways.

Placing the Through Connectors in different orientations works now, but it seems they revert to the north/south orientation when saving and loading the world. Also, if it isn't too much to ask, it would be cool if they were wrenchable since the placement can be kind of weird sometimes, being able to correct the orientation post-placement would be great.

Arkdirfe Yeah. So I didn't fully transfer the functionality from 1.22.😅

Just a heads up, the Through Connector seems to only be placeable in one orientation. From what I can tell functionality isn't affected, it's just visually jarring.

Amazing news! Keep up the great work! 

Hydromancerx Also in the next update. We only need models for this generator.

Yay!
Another idea would be using geothermal power where tapping into hot springs gives power. Perhaps it has to be placed in the water of the the hot spring or something.
Keep up the great work!

Hydromancerx The next update will be

Please add solar pannels like QPtech had! 

Systematique This is done in the recipe json.

any possibility of a config to change the amount of wires produced per plate?

Do transformers act as wires for the purpose of voltage transfer from 1 side to another? Example : If i supply 32v  to a transformer on 1 side can it simultaneously output 128V to one side and 32 V to a seperate side? Not sure how power is directed in the system. 
If i had a generator send excess power to batteries through a transformer that also had a 3rd connection to consumers, would the consumers pull energy from the generators onto the 3rd side or would power need to be sent to the batteries first and then back thru the transformer to the consumers?
It would make sense that a transformer would act as a variable output regardless of input for simplicity but I am not sure how it is coded. 

Ran into an interesting error just a bit ago. I put two helve hammers in line so that one motor could provide 'power' to them without any axels inbetween, then I put another motor on the opposite side (Motor, helve hammer, helve hammer, motor) also set up to provide 'power' (torque) to the helve hammers and the game really wasn't a fan.
I ended up having a client side crash on my single player world and even though I tried digging through the logs to find the cause the best I got was this error: [Warning] Server overloaded. A tick took 5216ms to complete. Which is less than helpful honestly; not sure if the crash is able to be reproduced as I'm going to bed in a bit here but thought I would throw it out there rather then just shrugging at the crash and moving on. (probably wasn't helpful but eh)

Tragic. Chiseled blocks w/ metal in them (or a certain # of metal) would've been super cool, so you could add facades to metal blocks, or chisel the wiring into the walls where you might not be able to place wires. Still, pretty cool mod!

RebelSkull Too little information. Do you have any add-ons for our mod installed?

MythyMajestic Chisel blocks do not conduct electricity.

I just noticed that putting peaches in my frige didn't change the spoil timer. Curious, I went down to my power room and looked at my batteries. Both my 32v circuit and my 128v circuit batteries aren't charging anymore!!!!! I have several batteries in a group around my generators. It worked just fine a week ago. Now no battery no matter how I position them to the generators will charge!

Do chiseled blocks with metal in them conduct electricity?

tehtelev ah okay. i didnt realize it wasnt going to add heat to the room until heat was needed. i did finally manage to get it fully powered and was wondering why it still said no heat bonus. thnx for the reply. im loving this mod

MuadDibz Use any metal block. metal blocks conduct. i dug trenches and ran wires to metal blocks in strategic places and theres not a single hole in my walls or floor.

Just curious but is there anyway to run wiring so that it can pass through a house wall without having to knock a hole in the wall? Would love a pass through block or something 

MadArtificer 1) Check the integrity of the greenhouse.
2) Wait until at least one bed or plant updates its status or readings. The heater does not show results immediately.

i cannot for the life of me get the heaters to 100% power. i can get them to 98% or burning out. i have no idea what im doing wrong. ive got power, into a transformer into the heater. its powered, not on fire, stuck at 98% and says adding no heat bonus if i change anything ive done to it  it either gets 0% power or burns out.

Never mind. I was on 2.6.2. Let me update to 2.6.4 which was just released.

Seagullible This is a purely visual bug that some players may encounter for some reason. If the numbers change when you hover over it, then it's working and everything is fine.

Does the rotor even do anything?

Also, placing down motors and generators just shows them as empty casings. I also can't change the orientation of motors, generators, AND cables.

MuadDibz Fixed. Update your core and base mod to 2.6.4.

With the newest version 2.6.2 I get errors on load and then when actually in the game none of the machines are working. Have reverted to 2.6.1 and its all working again. Just wondering if anyone else is seeing the same thing with the latest version?

wia Transmitting huge currents through wires increases losses quadratically. I'll reduce this figure by the time the immersive wires reach their output.

Am I doing something wrong? 1 block of distance with a 32v cable is like 12-13% loss?!

I don't understand why you are citing so many laws in the handbook, implementing some of them, like a proper simulation, but then give the cables completely bogus resistances. Copper is a better insulator than electrum -- and gold for that matter? What? 

tehtelev I see i see. yeah that would imply my fridge isnt consuming power, but it is. I assume this is because of the way i wired it all up; with the all power going thru a battery to get to the fridge. so the gen only provides enough to power to charge battery and doesnt also cover the fridge cuz it isnt directly wired to the fridge. Thats on me for not knowing that. Tho i would suggest adding a max wattage input and output stat on the batteries so its easier to tell (ik it says power:128w but i didnt know what that meant until now)

i redid my system awhile ago and it started outputting the max when i put it farther away, presumably to account for resistance cuz i dont have wax for insulated cables yet due to winter (pain)

Notasteamjpg So, consumers only consume 128 watts and don't need more. If you have a single 32V battery, it can only consume and output 128 watts at most. Doesn't that mean consumers consume anything?

Two_Byte Does this even make sense? Initially, we couldn't power such devices at all.

Set up a thermal gen and for some reason its only producing 128w instead of the nearly 500 it says it can, doesnt change with different fuel types and has max thermal plates

An extremely minor request, but would you be able to make it so we can place batteries sideways, on walls. I have a windmill tower, and while it's not being used to forge metal, I'd love to use it to generate energy, and storing the batteries in the ladder section (the "shaft", if you will), would not only be space effecient, it would also be really cool

I bypassed the transformer by changing the voltage setting on the thermal gen , it will keep the large battery charged without the transformer , however when I use it , the power drops regardless of how much is provided to the battery , not sure if its supposed to be that way or not

Kyrios34 A large battery requires 128V, and the generator produces 32V. Use transformator

thermal gen doesnt seem to charge the larger battery , what am I doing wrong ? cables are 128 silver got 6 generators hooked to the 1 battery

Hello, I don't know if there is a way to do this that I am not know of, or if it is just a suggestion, but it would be a way to insulate metal blocks such as cables. If there is a way to do this that I am not aware of, please mention it.

VengaboysFan

The Metalic Blocks may interest you then

Spoiler!

I have another suggestion for this mod

A way to pass ALL WIRES through any type of block in the game so i don't have to have holes in the floor of my home in the game to wire it.

I think i found a bug

when thickening 120v cables i am unable to place more than 2 cables 

Please make it possible to thicken 120v cables up to 4 times to support 40a over a cable.

Just curious, I've got a switch that tends to smoke when you turn it on. The smoke clears after a few seconds, and the cables themselves never smoke. Is this just for looks, or is it an indication that something is wrong? 

Limbobinho Metal blocks conduct electricity and do not disturb the room

Is there any way to conduct electricity through walls?

Yeah I've tried both of those things. Generators and Motors both spawn without internal bits. It's really strange. Nobody else on the server seems to be impacted.

They still work just fine, so not game breaking or anything.

Synthawk Have you tried breaking and reinstalling the generator? Maybe you should clear the mod cache too?

Having a weird issue. Trying to test out some things in creative briefly so I have an understanding of placement and how stuff functions and things like the generator are spawning empty? I'm attaching a picture of what I mean. It seems to work but it's a bit broken for some reason.

EDIT: This seems to be an issue with my client, unsure what to change to fix. Other users on the server see this as normal.

tehtelev I apologize for the confusion, you were obviously correct :) After going into creative and simply experimenting a little bit I realized what was happening and they've been working fine in my survival save since.

Alhef Generators won't produce power if all batteries are charged and there's no power consumption. If you believe this is a bug, you can record a video and post a detailed description of the issue on the mod's Github issue tracker.

I have the same problem as zombii . I've already changed the cables and checked the entire electrical system, and the generators don't seem to be working, and they aren't cheap.

zombii This means there's no demand for consumption from them. Check the connection and network integrity.

For some reason my generators don't seem to be generating power, even though they are rotating and able to see as such. They stay pegged at "Produced: 0/128W". Any idea what may be causing this?

Yithani Yes. I think we'll be making these wires very soon.

Is there a plan to add any sort of hanging or point to point power line functionality? At the moment the best way to transfer electricity between locations seems to be burying cables which gets quite awkward.

paulogabbi Most likely, the existing generator is sufficient for the grid, so the second one isn't used. Power is drawn from the nearest source. But you'd have to look at the screenshots for more details.

tehtelev sure but in game it fells weird to have the best cable be so cheap, oh yeah i have a weird problem on my game, i am using 4 windmills whit 3 large gears for more speed, one of them have 2 generators, but only one work for some reason, even if i have max wind both are hooked to a 128 cable network and they are the upgraded generator, any idea how to fix it ?

paulogabbi You can Google it and find that steel has a higher resistivity than copper.
As for the thermoelectric generator, it produces quite a lot of power for 32V. There will also be a 128V fuel-powered generator.

tehtelev gotcha i can keep a eye up for weird current spikes, another question i was looking at the cables and excluding silver and gold all other cables are worse than the copper one, even the steel one, is this intended ? it fells weird a end game material like steel be worse than copper, another thing the thermoelectric generator fells really underwelming, i have a 10 plate one and not only it uses alot of space it don't really produce alot of power even after using black coal, i do have it in a empty field outside the base so idk if it is a factor

paulogabbi Either you passed too much current through it, or moisture got in. Don't place batteries in a break in an electrical circuit to avoid overload.

so a question, what causes the battery to take damage ? mines are inside my house and the voltage is right and they take damage, any way to repair them ?

rayllis689 Unfortunately, the block is suddenly losing its electrical properties. This needs further investigation.

Questions about that metal block conductivity, does it work with chiseled blocks? And if so, does a certain percentage need to remain metal for it to work? Wondering if i could have just a central line of metal in the center of a block to simulate a cable passing through it, like say, a tunnel of copper running through a plank block.

Hallowedsoul08 The mod page states that metal blocks conduct electricity. This means the integrity of the room will not be compromised in this case.

I really wish to see some form of passthough on the walls so that I don't have to destory a block on the wall to get wires across.

Psyborg I think I'll just tweak the batteries so it writes off and adds 4 times less energy. Then everything will work as it should.

tehtelev - thanks for the prompt reply! Now I think I understand where the calculations are wrong...

A battery rated 64000J drained by a motor rated 128W should let this motor run for 500 seconds. That's according to the real world physics. But cause the mod makes the drain action happen 4 times per second, the battery will last only 125s. So in fact it should be rated as 16000J.
That's why it is confusing for people when using real SI system units whenever time component is involved, cause the mod makes 1s = 0.25s

Then why not just up the values on the machines by x4 instead of making it charge/drain tick faster? Would avoid any confusions.

Psyborg Energy production and consumption are tied to the speed of electricity movement. By default, it's 4 blocks per second. That's 4 ticks per second. And power is actually measured per tick, not per second. This means generators essentially produce 4x the energy per second, and consumers consume 4x the energy. It's possible to tie everything to a second-based measurement, but that would require some tweaking in the code. But keep in mind that this would also make the battery charge 4x slower!

tehtelev - what is the tick rate for energy consumption? Cause on our server any batteries with any motors get drained very fast.
Example:
Basic motor (32V, rated 128W) is powered with a 32V battery (64000J). The motor is connected to a quern. According to the tooltip on the circuit it is draing 84W from the battery to move the quern, however the amount of energy drained from the battery drops at a speed of about 500J/s, so the battery gets drained before the quern is able to grind just one stack of items.
That would suggest the tick rate is much faster than 1s, which is confusing when using Joulles as energy units (cause 1J = 1W * 1s).

Is it intended behavior or some incompatibility with another mod?

Tekkit_Kev

I think we had exactly the same error on our server. Took a few days to track it down and it turned out there is some incompatibility between Electrical Progressive and Millwright.

We were able to reproduce and narrow down the error to just a Millwright windmill connected to an electric generator from Electrical Progressive (a basic one). Haven't tested with other generator types.
Our guess was just that Millwright windmills are just OP and generate too much power. So we switched to vanilla widnmills - no error since then.

Not sure if anyone else has ran into the problem, but I keep getting crashes on my server due to mechanical power from the base game interacting with the generators. We broke them and it's no longer happening. Verified with mulitple mechanical parts connecting the the generators and they all cause the crash. All three types of generators are causing it and it seems to crash when loading in unloaded chuncks when coming back from exploring. The thermo electric does not cause any problems luckily, but it sucks that we're having to burn so much fuel when we have windmills set up for town power. Running 2.3.2 on 1.21.1, but it was happening as well on 2.3.0

1.10.2025 15:30:27 [Error] Exception: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.Mechanics.MechanicalPowerMod.RebuildNetwork(MechanicalNetwork network, IMechanicalPowerDevice nowRemovedNode) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\MechanicalPower\MechanicalPowerMod.cs:line 206
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.Mechanics.MechanicalPowerMod.Event_ChunkDirty(Vec3i chunkCoord, IWorldChunk chunk, EnumChunkDirtyReason reason) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\MechanicalPower\MechanicalPowerMod.cs:line 311
   at Vintagestory.Server.ServerSystemSupplyChunks.mainThreadLoadChunkColumn(ChunkColumnLoadRequest chunkRequest) in VintagestoryLib\Server\Systems\World\LoadThread\SupplyChunks.cs:line 996
   at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.ProcessMainThreadTasks() in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMain.cs:line 2939
   at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.ProcessMain() in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMain.cs:line 925
   at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.Process() in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMain.cs:line 864

Hi, love your mod tehtelev! Now I have to relearn electrical laws, but it's really fun :-).
I understand akroeze's note about a status board. I know that I can look at any wire and press Alt to see detailed information (it's very useful), but it would be wonderful to have a vintage-style dial on the wall, with a delicate hand pointing to the total battery level of the system. While working, I’d just glance at it to reassure myself that there’s still plenty of juice left. :-)

tehtelev

my crash log file is everything since playing on this linux laptop
the top crash is from game version 1.20.12

i have all the latest most up to date mods of your mods installed into the server already for 1.21.1

it most definitly was that mechanica mod with the fly wheels that was causing the crashes, after removing it all the mechanical systems are working perfectly fine again

SoulReaperzYou also have our mods, which are quite old versions. The problem shown occurs in that version in extremely rare cases when you break or install a lamp

Come to find out. It may have been this mod now

https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/26271#tab-description

removed and so far no issues now

tehtelev
this appears now that it may just be a base game multiplayer issue
my players have just recently tried placing a clutch and it crashed the area

however i am able to download the world and load into single player and resolve the issue in single player just fine, but whenever on a server (im using bisect hosting) the issue happens on the server for anyone and it crashes the chunk its in and anyone that tries to load that chunk

ill provide the latest report i just generated if your able to see something different

Game Version: v1.20.12 (Stable)
8/25/2025 9:17:45PM: Critical error occurred in the following mod: electricalprogressiveqol@2.0.0
Loaded Mods: aculinaryartillery@1.2.5, backpackpackStandardcontinued@1.0.0, betterloot@1.1.4, bettertraders@0.0.10, buzzybees@1.1.0, cavecontent@1.0.1, chiseltools@1.14.21, ClaimsRadar@1.1.0, eldritchmonsters@2.7.0, expandedmolds@1.1.2, fantasycreatures@0.7.1, froghats@1.1.0, geoaddons@1.4.2, horsetailtea@1.1.0, istchests@0.0.4, immersivecorpsedrop@1.0.3, jonasboat@1.0.1, millwright@1.2.7, MineIndicator-texturepack@1.0.0, molds@0.1.8, nightlight@1.3.6, nightwatcher@2.2.0, particlesplus@2.0.1, primitivesurvival@3.8.0, ruststones@1.2.0, scraps@1.1.1, scrollrackable@1.3.2, shelfobsessed@1.2.0, simpleelevator@1.3.0, tprunes@1.1.1, viesblocks@2.5.1, vintageengineering@0.3.13, game@1.20.12, worldgenfix@1.3.1, airthermomod@0.1.2, alloycalculator@1.0.0, ancienttools@1.6.0-pre.3, apegrapes@1.2.6, apelanterns@1.1.2, attributerenderinglibrary@1.0.2, egocaribautomapmarkers@4.0.2, betterruins@0.4.15, blobcatmod@0.1.1, blocksoverlay@4.4.1, brutalstory@1.0.0, butchering@1.9.1, carryon@1.9.0-pre.1, chuteblockplacer@1.0.4, Clumps@1.0.1, commonlib@2.6.1, kconfigurablecollection@1.0.1, danatweaks@3.4.5, deepveinasbestos@1.0.0, electricalprogressivecore@2.0.0, entitynametag@1.3.0, extrainfo@1.9.10, foodshelves@2.2.1, fromgoldencombs@1.8.13, hazchakram@0.9.2, healthbar@1.0.7, heatretention@1.0.2, hudclockpatch@1.0.5, itempickupnotifier@1.7.1, jaunt@2.0.0, jebsinventorytweaks@1.0.1, jonastools@1.2.0, krpgenchantment@1.0.1, landclaming@1.0.3, lenstweaks@1.0.6, levelup@2.0.3, mannequinstand@1.0.5, mechanica@1.0.0, medievalexpansionpatch@1.2.1, millwrightvawtaddon@1.0.2, mobsradar@2.1.8, playerlist@2.1.5, claywheel@1.1.2, purposefulstorage@1.3.0, riftworks@1.1.13, rustandrailroads@2.0.11, rustboundmagic@2.5.7, statushudcont@3.2.7, stillnecessaries@1.2.2, storagecontroller@1.1.5, tabletopgames@2.10.5, temporalstormtimer@1.1.1, tentbag@2.2.0, tentbagreworked@3.1.1, th3dungeon@0.4.3, thievery@1.2.2, usefulstuff17@1.4.1, vinconomy@0.4.0, creative@1.20.12, survival@1.20.12, waxpress@1.0.2, wildfarmingrevival@1.3.8, xlib@0.8.16, xrayblock@1.0.0, 118hair@0.1.3, advancedchests@0.2.4, astriaporta@0.0.5, tradercamps@1.1.5, draconis@1.0.0, electricalprogressivebasics@2.0.0, extraoverlays@1.5.0, frames@0.2.4, itemrarity@1.1.5, playercorpse@1.11.1, tpnetpatched@1.14.8, temporaltechnology@1.1.5, th3dungeontopentrance@0.4.1, wrustbound@1.0.0, xskills@0.8.19, electricalprogressiveqol@2.0.0, rustboundmagicxskills@0.2.1, veep@2.0.1, wilderlandsdrops@1.0.0, xskillsnewclassesexp@0.1.0, xwilderlands@1.0.0, electricalprogressiveequipment@1.0.6
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at ElectricalProgressive.Content.Block.ELamp.BlockELamp.GetSelectionBoxes(IBlockAccessor blockAccessor, BlockPos pos)
   at Vintagestory.API.Common.Block.GetParticleBreakBox(IBlockAccessor blockAccess, BlockPos pos, BlockFacing facing) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Collectible\Block\Block.cs:line 557
   at Vintagestory.API.Common.BlockBrokenParticleProps.get_Pos() in VintagestoryApi\Common\Particle\CollectibleParticleProperties.cs:line 95
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ParticlePoolQuads.SpawnParticles(IParticlePropertiesProvider particleProperties) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Render\Particle\ParticlePoolQuads.cs:line 147
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ParticleManager.SpawnParticles(IParticlePropertiesProvider properties) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ParticleManager.cs:line 91
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.GeneralPacketHandler.HandleSpawnParticles(Packet_Server packet) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\GeneralPacketHandler.cs:line 524
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.ExecuteMainThreadTasks(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 786
   at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToPrimary(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 161
   at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 695
   at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 670
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 88
   at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 334
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 130
   at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93
Game Version: v1.21.1 (Stable)
9/22/2025 11:08:00 PM: Critical error occurred in the following mod: mechanica@1.0.3
Loaded Mods: bagofholding@1.1.0, buzzybees@1.1.7, cavecontent@1.0.1, chiseltools@1.15.1, ClaimsRadar@1.1.0, containersbundle@1.1.2, extrachests@1.10.0, froghats@1.1.1, geodesandgemstonesforked@1.0.0, geoaddons@1.4.4, horsetailtea@1.1.0, istchests@0.0.4, immersivecorpsedrop@1.0.3, jonasboat@1.0.1, lithocraft@0.7.0, magellan1k@1.0.2, MineIndicator-texturepack@1.0.0, molds@0.2.1, nightlight@1.3.6, nightwatcher@2.2.0, particlesplus@2.3.1, primitivesurvival@3.9.7, scraps@1.1.1, scrollrackable@1.4.0, shelfobsessed@1.7.0, simpleelevator@1.3.0, storagecontroller@1.2.1, tprunes@1.1.2, temporalsreformed@0.0.4, vintageengineering@0.4.0, game@1.21.1, wildfarmingrevival@1.4.0, airthermomod@0.2.0, alloycalculator@1.0.0, apegrapes@1.3.1, apelanterns@1.3.5, astriaporta@0.0.6, attributerenderinglibrary@2.3.0, egocaribautomapmarkers@4.0.3, betterruins@0.5.0, bettertraders@0.1.0, blobcatmod@0.2.0, blocksoverlay@4.5.3, bloodtrail@1.0.7, brutalstory@1.0.0, butchering@1.10.3, carryon@1.10.9, cartwrightscaravan@1.7.2, chuteblockplacer@1.0.5, Clumps@1.0.1, commonlib@2.8.0, kconfigurablecollection@1.0.1, crystalgrowthspringtaria@1.0.1, crystalgrowth@1.0.4, danatweaks@3.6.0, decayingcreatures@0.1.6, eldritchmonsters@2.7.2, electricalprogressivecore@2.3.1, extrainfo@1.10.0, foodshelves@2.3.0, fromgoldencombs@1.9.2-rc.2, hazchakram@1.0.2, healthbar@1.1.1, heatretention@1.0.2, hudclockpatch@1.1.1, itempickuphighlighter@1.2.2, itempickupnotifier@1.7.3, jaunt@2.1.0-rc.1, jebsinventorytweaks@1.1.1, krpgenchantment@1.2.0, landclaming@1.0.3-rc.1, mechanica@1.0.3, medievalexpansionpatch@1.3.1, mobsradar@2.1.12, moldsplus@1.0.4, petai@4.0.0, playerlist@2.1.5, claywheel@1.1.3, purposefulstorage@1.4.1, riftworks@1.1.14, rivers@4.7.3, rustboundmagic@3.0.14, ruststones@1.2.2, signals@0.2.3, simplescaffoldins@1.0.1, statushudcont@3.3.1, stillnecessaries@1.3.0, stonebakeoven@1.2.0, tarmod@1.1.3, temporaltransporter@2.3.0, temporalstormtimer@1.1.1, tentbag@2.2.0, tentbagreworked@3.1.1, th3dungeon@0.4.4, thievery@1.2.6, unbindhotkeys@1.0.1, usefulstuff17@1.5.0, viesblocks@2.5.4, vinconomy@5.0.3, creative@1.21.1, survival@1.21.1, waxpress@1.0.2, xlib@0.9.0-pre.2, xrayblock@1.0.0, 118hair@0.1.3, advancedchests@0.2.5, archosaur@1.0.3, betterloot@2.0.0, bigboards@1.0.3, cavebeacons@1.0.9, tradercamps@1.1.6, draconis@1.1.1, electricalprogressivebasics@2.3.0, em@3.3.1, extraoverlays@1.6.0, frames@0.2.4, glassmaking@1.4.4, playercorpse@1.12.0, tabletopgames@3.0.2, tpnetpatched@1.14.9, temporaltechnology@1.2.1, th3dungeontopentrance@0.4.1, xskills@0.9.0-pre.2, electricalprogressiveindustry@0.1.3, electricalprogressiveqol@2.3.0, electricalprogressiveequipment@2.2.1
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at Mechanica.MechanicalPowerNodeExtensions.GetExtras(IMechanicalPowerNode node, Single& inertia) in C:\Users\Adam\source\repos\Mechanica\Mechanica\Core.cs:line 50
   at Mechanica.Patches.BEBehaviorMPBasePatches.JoinNetwork(BEBehaviorMPBase device, MechanicalNetwork& deviceNetwork, MechanicalNetwork network) in C:\Users\Adam\source\repos\Mechanica\Mechanica\Patches\BEBehaviorMPBasePatches.cs:line 99
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.Mechanics.BEBehaviorMPBase.tryConnect(BlockFacing toFacing) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\MechanicalPower\BlockEntityBehavior\BEBehaviorMPBase.cs:line 210
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.Mechanics.BlockMPBase.WasPlaced(IWorldAccessor world, BlockPos ownPos, BlockFacing connectedOnFacing) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\MechanicalPower\Block\BlockMPBase.cs:line 20
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.Mechanics.BlockAxle.TryPlaceBlock(IWorldAccessor world, IPlayer byPlayer, ItemStack itemstack, BlockSelection blockSel, String& failureCode) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\MechanicalPower\Block\BlockAxle.cs:line 53
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.OnPlayerTryPlace(BlockSelection blockSelection, String& failureCode) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 1729
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.OnBlockBuild(BlockSelection blockSelection, Block onBlock, String& failureCode) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 719
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.HandleMouseInteractionsBlockSelected(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 565
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.SystemMouseInWorldInteractions.OnFinalizeFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Player\MouseInWorldInteractions.cs:line 87
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ClientEventManager.cs:line 190
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 1031
   at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 250
   at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 760
   at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 663
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 113
   at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 338
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 133
   at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 95
Game Version: v1.21.1 (Stable)
9/23/2025 3:12:51 PM: Critical error occurred
Loaded Mods: bagofholding@1.1.0, buzzybees@1.1.7, cavecontent@1.0.1, chiseltools@1.15.1, ClaimsRadar@1.1.0, containersbundle@1.1.2, extrachests@1.10.0, froghats@1.1.1, geodesandgemstonesforked@1.0.0, geoaddons@1.4.4, horsetailtea@1.1.0, istchests@0.0.4, immersivecorpsedrop@1.0.3, jonasboat@1.0.2, lithocraft@0.7.0, magellan1k@1.0.2, MineIndicator-texturepack@1.0.0, molds@0.2.1, nightlight@1.3.6, nightwatcher@2.2.0, particlesplus@2.3.1, primitivesurvival@3.9.7, scraps@1.1.1, scrollrackable@1.4.0, shelfobsessed@1.7.0, simpleelevator@1.3.0, storagecontroller@1.2.1, tprunes@1.1.2, temporalsreformed@0.0.4, vintageengineering@0.4.0, game@1.21.1, wildfarmingrevival@1.4.0, airthermomod@0.2.0, alloycalculator@1.0.0, apegrapes@1.3.1, apelanterns@1.3.5, astriaporta@0.0.6, attributerenderinglibrary@2.3.0, egocaribautomapmarkers@4.0.3, betterruins@0.5.0, bettertraders@0.1.0, blobcatmod@0.2.0, blocksoverlay@4.5.3, bloodtrail@1.0.9, brutalstory@1.0.0, butchering@1.10.3, carryon@1.10.9, cartwrightscaravan@1.7.2, chuteblockplacer@1.0.5, Clumps@1.0.1, commonlib@2.8.0, kconfigurablecollection@1.0.1, crystalgrowthspringtaria@1.0.1, crystalgrowth@1.0.4, danatweaks@3.6.0, decayingcreatures@0.1.6, eldritchmonsters@2.7.2, electricalprogressivecore@2.3.1, extrainfo@1.10.0, foodshelves@2.3.0, fromgoldencombs@1.9.2-rc.2, hazchakram@1.0.2, healthbar@1.1.1, heatretention@1.0.2, hudclockpatch@1.1.1, itempickuphighlighter@1.2.2, itempickupnotifier@1.7.3, jaunt@2.1.0-rc.1, jebsinventorytweaks@1.1.1, krpgenchantment@1.2.0, landclaming@1.0.3-rc.1, mechanica@1.0.3, medievalexpansionpatch@1.3.1, mobsradar@2.1.12, moldsplus@1.0.4, petai@4.0.0, playerlist@2.1.5, claywheel@1.1.3, purposefulstorage@1.4.1, riftworks@1.1.14, rivers@4.7.3, rustboundmagic@3.0.15, ruststones@1.2.2, signals@0.2.3, simplescaffoldins@1.0.1, statushudcont@3.3.1, stillnecessaries@1.3.0, stonebakeoven@1.2.0, tarmod@1.1.3, temporaltransporter@2.3.0, temporalstormtimer@1.1.1, tentbag@2.2.0, tentbagreworked@3.1.1, th3dungeon@0.4.4, thievery@1.2.6, unbindhotkeys@1.0.1, usefulstuff17@1.5.0, viesblocks@2.5.4, vinconomy@5.0.3, creative@1.21.1, survival@1.21.1, waxpress@1.0.2, xlib@0.9.0-pre.2, xrayblock@1.0.0, 118hair@0.1.3, advancedchests@0.2.5, archosaur@1.0.3, betterloot@2.0.0, bigboards@1.0.3, cavebeacons@1.0.9, tradercamps@1.1.6, draconis@1.1.2, electricalprogressivebasics@2.3.0, em@3.3.1, extraoverlays@1.6.0, frames@0.2.4, glassmaking@1.4.4, playercorpse@1.12.0, tabletopgames@3.0.2, tpnetpatched@1.14.9, temporaltechnology@1.2.1, th3dungeontopentrance@0.4.1, xskills@0.9.0-pre.2, electricalprogressiveindustry@0.1.3, electricalprogressiveqol@2.3.0, electricalprogressiveequipment@2.2.1
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.Mechanics.MechBlockRenderer.UpdateCustomFloatBuffer() in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\MechanicalPower\Renderer\MechBlockRenderer.cs:line 48
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.Mechanics.MechNetworkRenderer.OnRenderFrame(Single deltaTime, EnumRenderStage stage) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\MechanicalPower\Renderer\MechNetworkRenderer.cs:line 87
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ClientEventManager.cs:line 190
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.MainRenderLoop(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 922
   at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToPrimary(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 172
   at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 719
   at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 663
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 113
   at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 338
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 133
   at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 95
Game Version: v1.21.1 (Stable)
9/23/2025 3:31:52 PM: Critical error occurred
Loaded Mods: bagofholding@1.1.0, buzzybees@1.1.7, cavecontent@1.0.1, chiseltools@1.15.1, ClaimsRadar@1.1.0, containersbundle@1.1.2, extrachests@1.10.0, froghats@1.1.1, geodesandgemstonesforked@1.0.0, geoaddons@1.4.4, horsetailtea@1.1.0, istchests@0.0.4, immersivecorpsedrop@1.0.3, jonasboat@1.0.2, lithocraft@0.7.0, magellan1k@1.0.2, MineIndicator-texturepack@1.0.0, molds@0.2.1, nightlight@1.3.6, nightwatcher@2.2.0, particlesplus@2.3.1, primitivesurvival@3.9.7, scraps@1.1.1, scrollrackable@1.4.0, shelfobsessed@1.7.0, simpleelevator@1.3.0, storagecontroller@1.2.1, tprunes@1.1.2, temporalsreformed@0.0.4, vintageengineering@0.4.0, game@1.21.1, wildfarmingrevival@1.4.0, airthermomod@0.2.0, alloycalculator@1.0.0, apegrapes@1.3.1, apelanterns@1.3.5, astriaporta@0.0.6, attributerenderinglibrary@2.3.0, egocaribautomapmarkers@4.0.3, betterruins@0.5.0, bettertraders@0.1.0, blobcatmod@0.2.0, blocksoverlay@4.5.3, bloodtrail@1.0.9, brutalstory@1.0.0, butchering@1.10.3, carryon@1.10.9, cartwrightscaravan@1.7.2, chuteblockplacer@1.0.5, Clumps@1.0.1, commonlib@2.8.0, kconfigurablecollection@1.0.1, crystalgrowthspringtaria@1.0.1, crystalgrowth@1.0.4, danatweaks@3.6.0, decayingcreatures@0.1.6, eldritchmonsters@2.7.2, electricalprogressivecore@2.3.1, extrainfo@1.10.0, foodshelves@2.3.0, fromgoldencombs@1.9.2-rc.2, hazchakram@1.0.2, healthbar@1.1.1, heatretention@1.0.2, hudclockpatch@1.1.1, itempickuphighlighter@1.2.2, itempickupnotifier@1.7.3, jaunt@2.1.0-rc.1, jebsinventorytweaks@1.1.1, krpgenchantment@1.2.0, landclaming@1.0.3-rc.1, mechanica@1.0.3, medievalexpansionpatch@1.3.1, mobsradar@2.1.12, moldsplus@1.0.4, petai@4.0.0, playerlist@2.1.5, claywheel@1.1.3, purposefulstorage@1.4.1, riftworks@1.1.14, rivers@4.7.3, rustboundmagic@3.0.15, ruststones@1.2.2, signals@0.2.3, simplescaffoldins@1.0.1, statushudcont@3.3.1, stillnecessaries@1.3.0, stonebakeoven@1.2.0, tarmod@1.1.3, temporaltransporter@2.3.0, temporalstormtimer@1.1.1, tentbag@2.2.0, tentbagreworked@3.1.1, th3dungeon@0.4.4, thievery@1.2.6, unbindhotkeys@1.0.1, usefulstuff17@1.5.0, viesblocks@2.5.4, vinconomy@5.0.3, creative@1.21.1, survival@1.21.1, waxpress@1.0.2, xlib@0.9.0-pre.2, xrayblock@1.0.0, 118hair@0.1.3, advancedchests@0.2.5, archosaur@1.0.3, betterloot@2.0.0, bigboards@1.0.3, cavebeacons@1.0.9, tradercamps@1.1.6, draconis@1.1.2, electricalprogressivebasics@2.3.0, em@3.3.1, extraoverlays@1.6.0, frames@0.2.4, glassmaking@1.4.4, playercorpse@1.12.0, tabletopgames@3.0.2, tpnetpatched@1.14.9, temporaltechnology@1.2.1, th3dungeontopentrance@0.4.1, xskills@0.9.0-pre.2, electricalprogressiveindustry@0.1.3, electricalprogressiveqol@2.3.0, electricalprogressiveequipment@2.2.1
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.Mechanics.MechBlockRenderer.UpdateCustomFloatBuffer() in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\MechanicalPower\Renderer\MechBlockRenderer.cs:line 48
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.Mechanics.MechNetworkRenderer.OnRenderFrame(Single deltaTime, EnumRenderStage stage) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\MechanicalPower\Renderer\MechNetworkRenderer.cs:line 87
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerRenderStage(EnumRenderStage stage, Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ClientEventManager.cs:line 204
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.MainRenderLoop(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 922
   at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToPrimary(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 172
   at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 719
   at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 663
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 113
   at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 338
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 133
   at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 95

SoulReaperzIt would be nice if you could send some more logs.

tehtelev
Game Version 1.21.1 multiplayer
Mod Version 2.3.0

when connecting anything to the mechanical connecting devices the clents crash

without being able to generate power unable to verify the other devices, the tools do work, just the generators have been verified to crash clents when trying to connect axels or gears to them

RanCipher Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about this. Perhaps we'll soon move this functionality into a separate tool within the industry's mods. Then there won't be a conflict with EM.

I've noticed that the pulverizer/crusher yield bonus doesn't play nice with Expanded Matter, since it introduces crushed and powdered variants of all the metals; instead of yielding a higher nugget count it just yields the default amount of crushed metal, like what Vedrit experienced. I tested with just EM and EP active to be sure, and the incompatibility can be reproduced easily enough by toggling EM on or off in a creative world and seeing the pulverizer yield on e.g. native copper ores; on a poor native copper chunk it'll be 3x crushed copper instead of 5x native copper nuggets.

@tehtelev

You are absolutely right, I was looking with "my man eyes" as my wife would call it. It was right there the whole time and I didn't see it. Disregard!

akroeze

 You can hover over any part of the electrical network, hold down the Alt key and see all the information about the block and the entire electrical network at once.

So in our world we are making a fairly geographically large electric network. One thing we'd love to have, which is maybe on your roadmap already, is the ability to make a status board that displays generation, consumption, and overall system-wide battery level.

The pulverizer buff doesn't seem to be working in 1.20.12, mod v2.0.1. Patch says that poor native copper should be yielding a stack of 5, but I'm only getting 3. Might be a conflict with Expanded Matter which does much the same thing, but sets lower stacksizes

Nalal

 Yeah. There is such a bug.

I've noticed that adding two engines to one mechanical system seems to cause the whole thing to lock up.

I think that may be a bug.

Currently running 2.0.0.

pimblokto

Yes. But this will be for versions 1.21

In that case, can you add that information to the alt info?

pimblokto If you ask, we will do it.

I thought there was a way to see how much power in watts was stored in a power grid with alt. Now I just see capacity % instead of total power. Is there a way to see total power stored in watts?

Nextia

 Yes. You can add it without any worries.

Is this (and other electricity line of mods) fine to add to an existing save?

tehtelev thank you for answer. 
Option 1/2 - but it'll be modified only on server side, but clients are downloading those mod zip files as well. Could it  be a problem? Because then server-side mod will be changed, but the ones on a clients will contain an unchanged assets.

I'd probably try the third option - patching. 

Thank you!

Fipil

fipil

Option 1. (easy) You need to unpack the mod, find the desired recipe in the assets folder and delete it. The game may complain about the lack of a recipe. Then you will need to pack the mod back into a zip archive.

Option 2. (a little more difficult) You need to unpack the mod, find the desired recipe in the assets folder and add the line enabled:false to the necessary ones, as shown in the picture. The game will automatically exclude this recipe. Then you will need to pack the mod back into a zip archive.

Spoiler!

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Option 3. (difficult). You need to patch the game recipes to set enabled:false. But I think you will not do this.

tehtelev You wrote in your answer: "To disable something you don't need on the server, the administrator can simply delete the recipe for crafting this item. This should be enough."

How can I do it? Did you mean to delete a recipe for the item from the mod's assets in the mods zip?

Why is the pulverizer thing included here? that has nothing to do with electricity.

Dantesluck

 Interesting, before everything is fine work

One step closer to gregtech in VS...

Hey, i wanted to report a possible bug, when i ran an electrical stove, and plopped a crucible on it, then placed copper coil inside the crucible it said it would make 200 copper, not 10 (which would be 2 copper bits), so right now you can duplicate copper plates

Copper plate -> saw -> 16x 32v cable -> make 8x2(16) copper coils -> pop em back into the crucible -> smelt into 3200 copper -> 32 bars = 16 copper plates

Edit: Was playing on 1.0.3, i dont know if this problem exists in the 1.1 version

Given that graphite is already in game, might be a good idea to add alternate recipe for large battery or maybe something around it?

NathanGrim This might be a bug I found yesterday. We'll fix it in the next update.

@tehtelev yes i did i was using the upgraded generators and everything its just...the moment the cables go 3 blocks up or 3 blocks down away from the source of power....Nothing gets powered

NathanGrim You do understand that generators usually produce 32V, and the forge requires 128V. Have you taken this into account?

so im having a issue where i have set my power generation room Above my blacksmith forge room...everything in the power room well generates power and receives power..but my Electric forge is Not receiving power atall..i have replaced it,replaced all the cables, replaced the generators and everything but nothing seems to work...items only seem to receive power if they are on the same level as the generator/batterys and im not sure why

tehtelev - one that pops up on generator/engine page? Yes, if there are others no, missed those.
ok, yep, missed those, I dont see many in "guides section". I had to explicitly type "electricity" to have 3 show up.

Q_qTip

 Have you read the in-game electrical guides? Many issues are already covered there. And we'll add the current shaft speed to the generator/motor information. Good idea.

1. How does burn out mechanic work? Over RPMIng?
2. Is there any calc to convert wind/windmill to RPMs or its eyeballing for now?
3. 32V vs 128V - does it entail fewer losses based on voltage?

heee since when is there a grinder? :o and one more machine to make in the forge XD

tehtelev Okay, here I found a solution that isn't very aesthetic, but it's better than just a cable coming out on the side x)

AcidNight

 Previously this was implemented through a hack in the code. I will try to do it properly

tehtelev Hello,

But the problem is that it makes the streetlights less usable. In the old mod, for example, I had interior lighting where it was just the lamp placed on the copper block, so there was a connection to the back of the block. I found this very useful to avoid having visible cables. It was expensive, but acceptable, and I found the idea very useful for the streetlights to do the same thing to avoid having cables on the ground.

Otherwise, isn't it possible to allow placement without blocks underneath to run a cable that will make the connection?

Same thing for the charging block; it's more practical to power it from below (it's possible to do this by placing another block next to it, which is possibly an unwanted bug, but practical).

Tomcat1789 Hello, it's normal, it's placed in the inventory section where the bags are.

Tier 2 accumulators won't go into the inventory. I also tested it in Creative and it's the same. Everything else seems to works fine.

AcidNight

 The metal block conducts electricity, but not quite as players would like. We had to limit its capabilities slightly so as not to overload the pathfinder. Imagine that the metal block contains wires facing in all directions on all the inner faces of this block. So once an additional wire on the outside connects the inner faces to the lamp, which is on the outside. The block works well when conducting electricity through a wall or ceiling, straight or diagonally.

tehtelev Hello, the electricity no longer passes through the copper blocks? I started playing with it on my server and I did like the old mod for lighting and nothing passes on my side, it's complicated to set up the lampposts without them :s

small addition that I just saw, when the lamppost is on the copper block it works provided there is another electrical block next to it or a cable, otherwise it does not light up and once removed it will turn off

Afroman726

 There are 3 pages about the mod in the game manuals.

This mod is awesome but are there any tutorials on it?

Civus Copy error logs or write to us in Bugtracker on GitHub how you do it and what the game writes

Found out, if you try to place a wire ontop of long grass you will crash to desktop.

Granted this may be an entierly me issue since I am playing on a heavily modded server

Kriky

 This mod is not compatible with electricity and electricityaddon, as it continues the development of those mods. You need to uninstall electricity and electricityaddon.

When I click the battery icon in the guide, the game crashes to Windows.

Running on 64 bit Windows 10.0.26100.0 with 64728 MB RAM
Game Version: v1.20.10 (Stable)
09.05.2025 22:35:53: Critical error occurred
Loaded Mods: ATadMoreLight@1.0.0, acorns@0.7.2, aculinaryartillery@1.2.5, advancedsmithing@1.4.0, ancientarmory@1.0.6, bettercrates@1.8.0, bettersticks@1.2.0, buzzwords@1.7.0, chickenfeed@1.1.8, chiseltools@1.14.17, claycasting@1.2.3, czechpatch@1.2.5, driedpeat@1.1.0, vichnybackpack@2.2.90, extrachests@1.9.0, fieldsandplateaus@1.0.8, firelogs@1.0.0, flourbags@1.1.1, immersivecorpsedrop@1.0.3, long-term_food@0.2.1, millwright@1.2.0, molds@0.1.7, overhaullib@0.2.8, pigfeed@1.0.8, primitivesurvival@3.7.7, prospecttogether@2.0.3, sortablestorage@2.3.1, translocatorengineeringredux@1.5.6, game@1.20.10, vsimgui@1.1.8, zoombuttonreborn@2.0.0, alloycalculator@1.0.0, egocaribautomapmarkers@4.0.2, electricity@0.0.12, betterfirepit@1.1.5, BetterProspecting@1.7.0, betterruins@0.4.12, blacksmithenhancements@1.1.4, blocksoverlay@4.4.0, butchering@1.8.2, carryon@1.8.0-rc.4, commonlib@2.6.1, composter@1.2.1, compostgrass@1.20.10-dev.2, configlib@1.5.3, configureeverything@2.1.3, coreofarts@0.2.3, danatweaks@3.4.1, electricalprogressivecore@0.9.10, expandedfoods@1.7.4, extrainfo@1.9.9, fendragonbcs@0.1.7, foodshelves@1.6.3, fromgoldencombs@1.8.12, interestingoregen@1.2.0, joyofsailing@1.4.0, levelup@1.3.8, maltiezcrossbows@1.2.0, medievalexpansionwaterwheelstonksminuscows@1.0.1, meltcaster@1.0.2, morepiles@2.1.3, petai@3.4.3, claywheel@1.1.2, rpvoicechat@2.3.17, rustandrailroads@2.0.11, smithingplus@1.6.0-rc.2, statushudcont@3.2.6, stepupcontinued@0.0.1, stirlingmotor@1.0.1, stonebakeoven@1.1.6, th3dungeon@0.4.2, titaniumtools@1.0.8, vanillamoremolds@1.1.2, creative@1.20.10, survival@1.20.10, wildfarmingrevival@1.3.6, xlib@0.8.16, artofcooking@0.2.4, electricalprogressivebasics@0.9.10, electricityaddon@0.0.20, em@3.2.1, onestick@1.0.1, wolftaming@3.0.6, xskills@0.8.19, bricklayers@3.0.2, electricalprogressiveqol@0.9.10, xskillsnewclassesexp@0.1.0
Involved Harmony IDs: smithingplus, com.jakecool19.efrecipes.cookingoverhaul, extrainfo
System.ArgumentException: Attempted to resolve the recipe ingredient wildcard Block electricity:cable-* but there are no such items/blocks!
at Vintagestory.API.Client.SlideshowGridRecipeTextComponent..ctor(ICoreClientAPI capi, GridRecipe[] gridrecipes, Double size, EnumFloat floatType, Action`1 onStackClicked, ItemStack[] allStacks) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Elements\Impl\Interactive\Text\Richtext\SlideshowGridRecipeTextComponent.cs:line 111
at Vintagestory.GameContent.CollectibleBehaviorHandbookTextAndExtraInfo.addCreatedByInfo_Patch4(CollectibleBehaviorHandbookTextAndExtraInfo this, ICoreClientAPI capi, ItemStack[] allStacks, ActionConsumable`1 openDetailPageFor, ItemStack stack, List`1 components, Single marginTop, Boolean haveText)
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at Vintagestory.GameContent.GuiDialogHandbook.initDetailGui() in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\Gui\GuiDialogHandbook.cs:line 258
at Vintagestory.GameContent.GuiDialogHandbook.OpenDetailPageFor(String pageCode) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\Gui\GuiDialogHandbook.cs:line 314
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fipil

 Sure. We are working slowly.

To disable something you don't need on the server, the administrator can simply delete the recipe for crafting this item. This should be enough.

As for the problem with the chunk disappearing. It is not entirely clear why this happens, but we can definitely say that this can be affected by a weak or loaded server processor, or slow server file storage. We have a good server with Electricty and ElectricityAddon mods installed and not only, where this problem has never occurred since its launch and operation. And even the administrators who had this problem transferred the data to our server hosting, launched it and everything also worked stably.

Hi! I'm glad that someone took over the great Electricity mod as Anluin has not time to improve and fix his mod! Great work, thank you, keep it up please.
I noticed the Electricity Extensions mod, but what prevented us from using it was that we didn't want to use the all things. 
I very appreciate this separating to more mods, so we can choose only some things to allow on our server.

Please would it be possible to make all items configurable? To give server admin more granularity, so he can select which blocks/items allows to use on the server?
For example: we allow to use just generators and motors and all basic stuff + heater + oven but no the electric tools (saw, chisel etc.) and no refridgerator etc?

Dividing to separated mods is great! It already allows to choose, but imho, it still needs more granularity.

And second question: we're still using the Electricity mod, but there is a bug, described here

See my comments under the issue, where I and someone else suspect the Electricity mod. We found out that the chunk hole apeears when the electricity network cross chunk column borders.
I hope that your version has not the described bug? :-) 

AcidNight Using the 3 on 1 mode threatens constant rock and stone collapses if they are enabled.

tehtelev

Ha, it would be nice to be able to mass-produce the cables x) when I see the number of plates I'll have to make as a blacksmith XD

As for the electric drill, I recharged it before testing it, as I was looking for mod incompatibilities. I don't remember if I was level 1 on Xskill to see if it wasn't the same problem as with the diamond pickaxes. As for speed, I'm looking at the pickaxe, which is less expensive to make even in series. Even though the drill has a 1x3 mode, wouldn't it be more interesting to make a 3x1 mod, since the ores are more positioned in a cylinder when viewed from above, in a single line?

AcidNight

 For now the wires will be like this. We need to make a device for pulling and mass production of wires.

Make sure you charge the electric drill - it works. The indicators 9 correspond to the mining speed of a table pick. Why even more speed?

tehtelev

Ha I was just wondering when I saw your last comment, but from what I tested solo I think the same as DefiledMage because when I looked there is not really a choice for voltage because almost everything is in 128V if I am not mistaken,

the lamps and street lamps for example because when I saw that the maximum intensity was 14A the big cables can only be doubled it is not much to make a sort of "power station", I was wondering if it was planned to have bigger

cables to make a distribution network or a bigger voltage just for transport and it is obligatory to go through transformers to use it, my friend thought of passing the cables under the roads and lighting the intersections but when I see the size

it is unfortunately impossible because of this limitation I think

ha I'm testing for the moment and I just saw that the drill is not working I have nothing falling and 9.9 in speed is it not low?

DefiledMage For transmission over long distances, it is recommended to increase the voltage. Also, do not forget that cables can be extended by pressing on them with the same cable, and insulated wires have 2 times less losses. I tested the operation of cables on the example of 128V copper at distances of 100-200+ blocks.

I think the cable resistance is too high. This is very limiting and forces the elements to be placed very close.

I want to use resistors to control each engine freely

FuFuFuta But why?

I think how many resistors can be added?

AcidNight

billyma6  Yes. You will need to break all the wires and devices installed on the ground and put them in inventory/chests. The safest and most reliable way will be to convert devices through the crafting grid. Because each device is also assigned its own code, its behavior, etc. If you want it, I will make the corresponding crafts for conversion.

billyma6

Hello, according to what he explained in the answer, you have to delete all the blocks because they are linked to the old mods, when asking the question I wondered if it was possible to take the IDs of the blocks but apparently not, so it's the same as when you delete a mod, you will have white blocks with question marks

tehtelev

Hello, here it was precisely to know everything for the time being, if it was me I would have installed it to test and make reports xD, here I just started to place 4 lamps and tested to show how it worked and he was already going

with the idea of ​​making a storage building and passing the cables under the roads, but I just told him that the mod was no longer updated and that one is in preparation, so we will mainly prepare the resources (zinc/copper/iron plate),

that's why my request for the crafts and for the old blocks because I told myself that everything had to be removed and deleted before

Hi tehtelev, adding onto what AcidNight asked, so if I were to switch from the old mod to all the EP parts, would any of my items crafted during EA carry over when switching to EP? As for your point, does that mean that in order to properly make the switch, I'd have to destroy all my electrical blocks/devices beforehand to ensure the least bugs?

AcidNight Hi. The mod is not compatible with ElectricityAddon. They will not work simultaneously. We wanted to make it possible to convert devices and appliances to our mod. It turned out that there are quite a lot of changes at the code level, so in order to make a patch, players first need to break all their electrical appliances and wires. Are you sure you want to do this? In terms of functionality and crafting recipes for devices, there are no changes yet, but they will. There will also be a balance of device characteristics.

Hello, compared to the existing mod, will the crafts be the same? Will the crafts already made disappear once the mods are changed?

Shion We think we will have to make full-fledged power lines. And use cables for short distances.

Is there a future for hanging cables (from point to point) like in Vintage Engineering mod?

VaelophisNyx Insulated cables have half the loss of non-insulated ones. They will not cause damage to the player/creatures, they can be used safely in liquids and in the rain without fear of short circuits.

So what's the purpose of Insulated cables? just asthetics? Or are there plans for us to take damage if we touch an uninsulated cable with power running through it?

the transformer is uncraftable it may be me using xskills but im not sure might want to look into it i posted a picture on the github issue tracker

edit: its not xskills its the type call on the linen it needs to be called as a block not an item

LilianaXolkiyr  Done

maybe a higher quality screenshot? It's pretty blurry when put to full screen. ^_^;;

AcidNight Yes. You can make a pull request with your translations for each Electrical Progressive mod.

Hello, for a French translation, can we share a GitHub with you? I'll look for long sentences here.

Thank you tehtelev

VoiCat Did as requested

This applies to all the modules, but could we get a more detailed description of what this mod add, how it works, etc? The concept is pretty cool but I'm not sure what we can actually do with this mod